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File transfer no longer works ?

I've upgraded to Bepe full cube and it's great but I just got a new 8 gb sdhc card which works well in the phone but not in the old sd adapter, i'm trying to load up near 2gb of maps over active sync which keeps dropping the connection ( did this before flashing ) , I thought I would try bluetooth ftp instead but it is no longer supported ?? any ideas
I'm using win Xp

I have just installed an 8 gb sdhc card.
It came with a usb adaptor, which works. It does not work with my old sd card adaptor

They didn't send the usb adapter with mine , plus it's a pain to have to remove it each time

What make is the card and where did you buy it?

incredulous said:
What make is the card and where did you buy it?
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Sandisk & Ebay, but like I said that's not the issue here I know I can get that sorted out

I was asking, as I recently bought an 8GB MicroSDHC card from eBay myself, but mine came with a small SanDisk USB adapter, which states on it 'MicroSDHC'.
I get the impression that the card requires a reader that supports SD2.0/SDHC for it to successfully read/write it.
I might be wrong

You are right, it makes sense that the old adapter won't work with the new model card, as for the ftp that's an issue with the rom similar to the mms problems people have been having

USB transfer speeds?

I am looking to grab this phone but my last HTC unit (Touch Cruise) is really slow on moving stuff- im nearly positive its running at USB 1.1 speeds.
Is the Touch Pro 2 any better? How long does it take to transfer an album of music or a video?

You'd be crazy to spend $$ on this phone and not buy a SD card, and trasfers to them are very decent.
Transfering to it in "Disk drive" mode onto a micro SD card u get 4MB/sec (which is max speed for my class 4 card)
Reading from it is about 6-7MB/sec so it might be able to write at that speed with an decent class 6 card
Transfering to its internal ROM is about ~1-2MB/sec in "activesync" mode
Get the phone u wont regret it
ps. anyone out there have sandisk ultra micro m2 card to test? that have read speed of 13mb/sec, would be good to see what the decivice is capable of ;- )

Edit: double post, how i manage that

Sd card upgrade problem

So I recently ordered a 16 GB micro sd card off Amazon since I've been using my MT4G for music and leaving my ipod at home, and wanted to bump up my capacity. Anyway, it's a Patriot Class 4 card, and I'm having some trouble. I inserted it into the phone, and selected 'format sd card' from settings, did it, but when I mounted sd card via usb to transfer files, it was going SO SLOW. Like, 50 minutes to transfer 200 MB or so. So...my question is, is there something I'm supposed to have done and didn't do? Or is it a bad card, or what? Because my 8 GB stock card was only class 4, and was MUCH faster.
Thanks for any insight!

Try using windows to format it using the default allocation size. I have seen some talk in the "32gig class 10" thread that doing this really sped up the transfer speeds of the cards over what you get when letting the phone format it.
Good luck.

rrrjr said:
Try using windows to format it using the default allocation size. I have seen some talk in the "32gig class 10" thread that doing this really sped up the transfer speeds of the cards over what you get when letting the phone format it.
Good luck.
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Thanks for the help. I'm really unsure about what to do, been searching and can't really figure out if the card is bad or if I haven't formatted it correctly. Unfortunately, I'm on a macbook, so don't use Windows. Usually, there is a mac equivalent for anything windows can do, so I'll see what my options are. It's just driving me crazy, because it'll take DAYS to transfer all my music lol. Not sure why no one else has jumped in to help me out. Either no one knows anything about it, or it's such an obvious answer that I'm embarrassing myself. Either way, I'd love to hear which it is so I know how f-ed I am.

sunsean said:
Thanks for the help. I'm really unsure about what to do, been searching and can't really figure out if the card is bad or if I haven't formatted it correctly. Unfortunately, I'm on a macbook, so don't use Windows. Usually, there is a mac equivalent for anything windows can do, so I'll see what my options are. It's just driving me crazy, because it'll take DAYS to transfer all my music lol. Not sure why no one else has jumped in to help me out. Either no one knows anything about it, or it's such an obvious answer that I'm embarrassing myself. Either way, I'd love to hear which it is so I know how f-ed I am.
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try doing a full format instead of a quick format with windows.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00413PF6G
I ordered that card last week and had the same issue you had. Max of like 2mbs transfer whether I mounted it through the MyTouch 4G USB, Included adapter or my USB card reader. I tried the panasonic formatting tool and half the time it would kill my card reader or just fail. Messed with it for like 4 days and couldn't find anything that helped. Must be a incompatibility, It was returned and I just received a Transcend 16gb Class 4. Transfer average 4-6mb depending if it's a large file or tons of smaller files.

sunsean said:
So I recently ordered a 16 GB micro sd card off Amazon since I've been using my MT4G for music and leaving my ipod at home, and wanted to bump up my capacity. Anyway, it's a Patriot Class 4 card, and I'm having some trouble. I inserted it into the phone, and selected 'format sd card' from settings, did it, but when I mounted sd card via usb to transfer files, it was going SO SLOW. Like, 50 minutes to transfer 200 MB or so. So...my question is, is there something I'm supposed to have done and didn't do? Or is it a bad card, or what? Because my 8 GB stock card was only class 4, and was MUCH faster.
Thanks for any insight!
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I've done alot of testing for sd cards and android because i had similar issues with my patriot SD card and I've found that a 32K cluster sizes gives great speeds. Only time you really need smaller is if u are using a actual hard disk or if your average file size are around 3-10 Kb but with mp3 and most other files being around 3-10Mb you lose alot of and speed as a result of having smaller clusters.
Now say u use maverick maps and have cached over several million tiles all of which are 1kb each then use a smaller cluster size to save space or those millions of 1k tiles could fill a entire 8 gig card as opposed to actual size of 700Mb but it will take a horrendously long time to transfer to those card. so its a trade off.
So bottom line use a 32k allocation table. It will give you good optimization of space and speed.

I have also found that formatting the sd card with the phone rather than with my mac also causes slow transfer rates so I format all my sd cards on my mac (or pc) before putting them in my phone. Transfer rates are much quicker that way.

I have Kingston 16gb class 10 and I would only average 1-2mb/s when copying files over.
I reformatted in via Windows to a few different cluster sizes and did some testing with my phone.
For my usage I went with a 64k cluster size. My copy speeds to the card average 13mb/s. I don't really store small files on the card so I'm not worried about excessive space use right now.

[q] note 2 64gb micro sdxc problem

HELLO FRIENDS
I HAVE N7100 AND OVER 1 YEAR I HAD 32GB MICRO SD CALSS 10
I HAD 13MB\S WRITE SPEED AND EVERYTHING WAS GREAT
LAST MONTH I HAD TO USE MORE THEN 40GB SO I Bought SANDISK 64GB MICRO SDXC
I FORMATED IT TO EXFAT AND THE DEVICE WORKS GREAT WITH HIM
BUT WHEN I CONNECTING THE DEVICE TO PC THE WRITE SPEED IS 7MB\S
AND WHEN I OPEN THE GALLERY APP IN THE DEVICE -- THE PICTURES LOADS VERY SLOW...
THE CARD IS GENUINE AND ORIGINAL
WHAT CAN I DO?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-SanDisk...ass-10-30MB-s-SDSDQUA-064G-U46A-/251144066147

help?

please?

I'll take a stab at this...
lidor578 said:
HELLO FRIENDS
I HAVE N7100 AND OVER 1 YEAR I HAD 32GB MICRO SD CALSS 10
I HAD 13MB\S WRITE SPEED AND EVERYTHING WAS GREAT
LAST MONTH I HAD TO USE MORE THEN 40GB SO I Bought SANDISK 64GB MICRO SDXC
I FORMATED IT TO EXFAT AND THE DEVICE WORKS GREAT WITH HIM
BUT WHEN I CONNECTING THE DEVICE TO PC THE WRITE SPEED IS 7MB\S
AND WHEN I OPEN THE GALLERY APP IN THE DEVICE -- THE PICTURES LOADS VERY SLOW...
THE CARD IS GENUINE AND ORIGINAL
WHAT CAN I DO?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-SanDisk...ass-10-30MB-s-SDSDQUA-064G-U46A-/251144066147
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When connecting the device via USB cable, don't expect the transfer speeds to be that great. MTP is the default transfer protocol if you didn't change it. If you need to move files off of your MicroSD card quickly, its best to remove the media card from the Note 2 and put it into a card reader. As for the gallery app on the device, from what I have experienced is if you are using the card for the first few times it may take some time for the picture thumb nails to enumerate completely, especially when you have a lot of photos/videos.
This is purely from experience. I hope this helps a bit.

flashred said:
When connecting the device via USB cable, don't expect the transfer speeds to be that great. MTP is the default transfer protocol if you didn't change it. If you need to move files off of your MicroSD card quickly, its best to remove the media card from the Note 2 and put it into a card reader. As for the gallery app on the device, from what I have experienced is if you are using the card for the first few times it may take some time for the picture thumb nails to enumerate completely, especially when you have a lot of photos/videos.
This is purely from experience. I hope this helps a bit.
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but why ?
if i use the reader the speed is up to 10mb
if i use the reader with the adata 32gb the speed is 18mb !
about the reading pictures ---# why its happens ?
and why the thums sits on my internal memory ?
i dont know what to do )-:

lidor578 said:
but why ?
if i use the reader the speed is up to 10mb
if i use the reader with the adata 32gb the speed is 18mb !
about the reading pictures ---# why its happens ?
and why the thums sits on my internal memory ?
i dont know what to do )-:
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?????????????????????

Anyone using Adoptable Storage? All my old cards are too slow...

My cards say class 10 and 50 MB/sec. Android says they are too slow.
How fast of a one do I need?
I don't want to buy a 128 card just to find out I need root to tweak the buffer or that it doesn't work that well.
I posted a screenshot. Adoptable is the same as storage, sdcard, 3dots, format as internal

From my understanding there aren't any cards at the moment quick enough to serve the role efficiently. Just use it as an external storage until faster cards become available.

I was about to make a post concerning the best Micro SD cards do Moto Z Play, thanks for bringing that up!
I have a 128gb Samsung EVO micro sd, class 10, but it's 48mb/s and I got the same message you did, saying the card isn't fast enough and that the overall apps and system speeds could be slower.
I thought class 10 micro sd's were among the fastest and the Moto Z Play wouldn't have any trouble using it as an extension of it's internal storage, but as a matter of fact, there are indeed faster micro sds. After researching a little bit, I found Samsung EVOs with 80mb/s transfer speeds (the 48mb/s are colored orange, as the 80mb/s are little green ones):
I still haven't bought one, but I browsed through some forums and videos and people with the same problem said 80mb/s seems to do the trick and they didn't get any message complaining about the micro sd speed.
f you want even faster micro sds, try the Sandisk Extreme, with speeds up to 90mb/s:
I have to get a faster micro SD anyway, as soon as i do i'll post here my experience with it.
Hope this helps,
Cheers!

While running the adopted 50 MB card AFT fails on most copy operations.
I am afraid ? that 2 times faster may not be enough for the already challenged ATF, buggy as it is already.

aviwdoowks said:
My cards say class 10 and 50 MB/sec. Android says they are too slow.
How fast of a one do I need?
I don't want to buy a 128 card just to find out I need root to tweak the buffer or that it doesn't work that well.
I posted a screenshot. Adoptable is the same as storage, sdcard, 3dots, format as internal
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How can you live with all those notifications? My OCD prevents me from seeing so many icons in the notification bar

Jorgeprdz said:
How can you live with all those notifications? My OCD prevents me from seeing so many icons in the notification bar
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Just 12 not including the statusbar pro, which I cannot live without.
Better?

Using this card with no issues. Formatted as internal storage. SanDisk Extreme 128GB microSDXC UHS-I Card with Adapter (SDSQXVF-128G-GN6MA). Got it at Amazon for 60 bucks. It is quite speedy as far as I can tell.

geomun said:
Using this card with no issues. Formatted as internal storage. SanDisk Extreme 128GB microSDXC UHS-I Card with Adapter (SDSQXVF-128G-GN6MA). Got it at Amazon for 60 bucks. It is quite speedy as far as I can tell.
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Thanks
Do you play large music files (flac or dsf) ?
I do and getting them on such a card is via my Mac using Android File Transfer or from a SATA drive using OTG. On KK AFT did not work on large transfers. It has not been updated in many years. The OTG / drive method should be reliable but not with my 50 mb, slow card.
To boot, on the negative side of using adopted cards, you cannot pull the card in the case of a data wipe.
I will be abandoning this method.
Thanks to all for sharing!

aviwdoowks said:
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Do you play large music files (flac or dsf) ?
I do and getting them on such a card is via my Mac using Android File Transfer or from a SATA drive using OTG. On KK AFT did not work on large transfers. It has not been updated in many years. The OTG / drive method should be reliable but not with my 50 mb, slow card.
To boot, on the negative side of using adopted cards, you cannot pull the card in the case of a data wipe.
I will be abandoning this method.
Thanks to all for sharing!
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In my use case, adaptable storage doesn't make much sense on devices with 32gb or more of internal storage. Unless you really need that much space for app installs, the limitations outweigh the benefits. My typical app load is around 8 to 10gb, so I have somewhere around another 10 available on the MZP, as long as I pull all my media into an external card. This way I know all my apps are using fast internal storage, and I don't have to wonder if a widget is available or not. And I can pull the card and use it in a PC or other device.
Now my Moto E 2 (with 8gb onboard) is a different story. But I use a hybrid card in that - 20gb as adopted and the other 40 as external. May consider this as an option when I get around to getting a card for the MZP

I took a 32gb card and combined it. It warned me too. After reading up on the function, Android evaluates what to put where. Having the card separate made it less useful only good for photos and video really. This way app data can be buffered there. Things like cloud services buffer files internally. Netflix now uses SD but that was an issue too.

Bought a new micro SD for the Moto Z Play and it works perfectly with no warnings about it's speed being slow!
It's a Samsung PRO 64 GB microSDXC Card, with 90 MB/s reading speed and 80 MB/s writing speed.
As you insert the card and format it to be part of the phone's internal storage, the system doesn't complain about the card being too slow or that it'll affect the overall app and system speed.
It's perfectly reliable for installing apps outside the device storage and keep the desired speed and all that good stuff.
Cheers! =)

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It's perfectly reliable for installing apps outside the device storage and keep the desired speed and all that good stuff.
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It's a microSD. For these kind of cards it's quite usual that there is some percentage that fail after some time. Some cards only last for months, other years. It seems to be independent of manufacturer.
My personal advice: Whatever you store on a micro SD card, have a backup. I'd rather not use it for internal storage if it's not necessary to do so. It's slower than internal memory anyway. This is a personal opinion, you'll have or see different opinions for sure.

tag68 said:
It's a microSD. For these kind of cards it's quite usual that there is some percentage that fail after some time. Some cards only last for months, other years. It seems to be independent of manufacturer.
My personal advice: Whatever you store on a micro SD card, have a backup. I'd rather not use it for internal storage if it's not necessary to do so. It's slower than internal memory anyway. This is a personal opinion, you'll have or see different opinions for sure.
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I agree but for me having a Mac I never want to use ATF it is buggy.
So I am left to getting large music files from an external drive over OTG.
It is so much more reliable to drop the file right to the SD and move the card to the phone.
If the adopted card fails , you need a data wipe or an update screws it up, you have a bad phone day!

aviwdoowks said:
I agree but for me having a Mac I never want to use ATF it is buggy.
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Me too!
I'm allowing the access via Windows filesharing (still OSX 10.6.8), and then access some drive on the computer using LAN plugin of Total Commander for Android. Works like a charm! It is a bit slower, but very convenient not having the need to put card or, put card in etc.

tag68 said:
It's a microSD. For these kind of cards it's quite usual that there is some percentage that fail after some time. Some cards only last for months, other years. It seems to be independent of manufacturer.
My personal advice: Whatever you store on a micro SD card, have a backup. I'd rather not use it for internal storage if it's not necessary to do so. It's slower than internal memory anyway. This is a personal opinion, you'll have or see different opinions for sure.
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tag68 said:
Me too!
I'm allowing the access via Windows filesharing (still OSX 10.6.8), and then access some drive on the computer using LAN plugin of Total Commander for Android. Works like a charm! It is a bit slower, but very convenient not having the need to put card or, put card in etc.
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Is that only on snow?
I do have a snow partition for older programs.
So do I need to buy FC and the plugin?
Tell me more please, cause I hate ATF soooo much. Why does Android drop it's ball like this?

aviwdoowks said:
Is that only on snow?
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I'm quite sure that file sharing via smb: is available on nearly all versions of Windows and OSX.
You may start Windows file sharing in network settings of OSX. Then you can give access to some drive in Finder.
If you google a bit, you will find help I guess.
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So do I need to buy FC and the plugin?
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Buy? Total Commander is free of cost, including all necessary plugins. For Windows file sharing (smb) you need the TC LAN plugin.
Edit: By "a bit slower" I meant because it usually is being used via WLAN in your intranet

Just wanted to post back here - finally got around to picking up an sd card for the MZP. Went with Samsung evo 128gb, $40 on Amazon. Since it's got plenty of space, I decided to go the same route that I did with the moto e, and do hybrid storage. Formatted 25% adopted and 75% external. Gives me an additional 30gb internal space and 90gb external storage.
Device sees the storage space fine. A couple apps I've messed with so far (Netflix and Google play music) can save to external fine, but don't recognize the additional available space in "internal", or at last don't report it as available.
I don't plan to move any apps that I use frequently or anything that I use widgets from to adopted, as the advertised max read speed is only 20mb/s. Haven't actually tested yet. But I did move a couple low use apps over. Reported storage space on both internal and adopted updated correctly (an issue I've had in the past).
So far, so good.