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Are 2gb SD cards compatible with BlueAngel?

Hi guys,
I'm thinking of upgrading my 512mb SD card to 2gb, but I'm not certain that the phone (Qtek 9090) will be able to work with such a large card.
Does anyone here have a 2gb card working? Any brands/models that are known to work or fail?
Thanks in advance for your help.

2gb SDCard...
Hi!
I'm currently using a 2gb SanDisk SD Card, everything works great. Oddly enough, I cannot find a card reader to connect to my PC that can read them!?!? I'm still using 2003SE and transfer movies and MP3's to the phone by using the painful multi-hour process of Exploring via ActiveSync. Uggh! This is fixed in ActiveSync 4.1 but ONLY if you are running WM5... Just having 2003SE and 4.1 will still be totally laggy for file copy.
Enjoy!

2gb SDCard...
Hi there, I also have a 2Gb Sandisk card in my XDAIIs, I also have a card reader which I purchased from PC World for £10.
Works a treat!!

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I also have a card reader which I purchased from PC World for £10.
Works a treat!!
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Hi! Do you have a brand name or model number of the card reader you mentioned so I can search for it on the Internet? So far I've purchased 2 different readers and neither can speak "2gb" :shock: The one I can use for 1gb cards but not 2gb cards is Belkin F5U248 rev.2, so I know that one wont work!
Thanks in advance!

Does anyone know what speed the BA supports for its SD cards?

The transfer speed is limited by the SD card type
The transfer speed should be contained within the card specification sheet
As I understand it, the maximum transfer speed is 22.5MB per second
This is for a 133X SD card, so compare accordingly

thanks for the reply. I just wanted to make sure that there wasnt a limit on the SDIO bus on the BA.
I'm planning to buy a 2gb Sandisk, but i'm not too sure whether the ultra version will work, as the compatibility list on their website only shows the standard. So i might just get the standard one to be on the safe side.

I currently use 4Gb SD card! I had only hard time finding flash card reader for my PC, which can read such a big card
I believe PPC devices has no problem with big SD cards. At least my Mio 168 PPC with GPS (PPC 2003) understand 4G card too.
But I do not believe flash manufacturers X rating. I NEVER seen real speed more than 3 Mb/s on any type of device. My card have rating x133 (22.5Mb/s). And I have no idea on what device and how did they measure that speed?

From the 2g->4gb reports it sounds like sd card size is not so much an issue for the BA, more for the SD->USB adaptor.
I have the same awful USB activesync file transfer rates reported on this thread, despite running WM5, so it sounds like my current adaptor might need upgrading.
Anyway, thanks for helping out, and I now have a 2gb 133x SD on order for next week ;-)

The typical transfer rate is 2MBps
Quotes like 133X and 150X are NOT a multiple of this but the coefficient comparison between the read and write speed
As an example for a 2MB SD card
Uploading 2MB data takes 1 second
Reading data, for that same setup, takes 1 second
For the 133X the write speed is the same, but the read time is 0.4 seconds and for the 150X card it is 0.33 seconds
This also assumes the SD interface meets SDIO v1.01
If not then the 133X and 150X cards take the same time to read as the standard card

2gb Card Reader
Hi there ottGalaen,
My card reader is made by PC Line, I think it's PC World's own brand, the Model number on the back is PCL-CR400.
Here's a link to it...
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/st...null&sm=null&tm=null&sku=818835&category_oid=
If that doesn't work just go to www.pcworld.co.uk and search for PCL-CR400
I hope this helps
Kind regards
Terry

4GB SD here with a cheapie card reader/writer. No problems at all.

2gb sd
i use a 2gb sd card sandisk with no problems

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ottGalaen said:
Hi!
I'm currently using a 2gb SanDisk SD Card, everything works great. Oddly enough, I cannot find a card reader to connect to my PC that can read them!?!? I'm still using 2003SE and transfer movies and MP3's to the phone by using the painful multi-hour process of Exploring via ActiveSync. Uggh! This is fixed in ActiveSync 4.1 but ONLY if you are running WM5... Just having 2003SE and 4.1 will still be totally laggy for file copy.
Enjoy!
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Yo, what type of SD card that you using now (Sandisk Ultra II) ?

Just so you guys know my 4GB SD card is a Transcend 150x.

8GB SD card debuts!!!

From PRETEC, here:-
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=6609
:lol: :lol: :lol:

I found one on eBay for £96.00 + £4.00 p&p.
150X 8GB OEM SAMSUNG SECURE DIGITAL SD CARD 8 GB G NEW
Looks good.

Gonna test that on Universalinux too?

wonder if it will work in a prophet (JAMin)

RE
If your PDA do not have a SDHC slot then PRETEC card is not backward compatible
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"SDHC cards are recognized by new SDHC host devices differently than standard SD cards and are not backward compatible with legacy SD format host devices. "
Bad luck!!

What IS SDHC compatible?

I was gonna ask that one, so i will ask it anyway!
What is SDHC?
Never mind, i found this information:
http://www.sandisk.com/Assets/File/pdf/retail/SDHC1.pdf#search="sdhc compatible"
But now we need to know whether our Universal is SDHC compatible or not. Has anyone managed to find out if these new cards work with our PDA's?

Maximum capacity for this device: May support up to 2GB
But we know that's already true. So...

This quote is right from the article linked to by the first post here...
The maximum capacity of SD card is 2GB under SD 1.1 of Secure Digital Alliance (SDA) specification; however, by using file format of FAT32, many SD 1.1 host devices can use a 4GB SD card. SD 1.0/1.1 uses traditional "Byte Addressing" scheme which limits the maximum capacity to 4GB while SD 2.0 adopts "Sector Addressing" scheme which can reach the maximum capacity of 2TB (2048GB).
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In other words, they 'cheat' to get the Universal and other SD 1.1 devices to see 4G, but that won't work with the 8G cards.
Brett

Would the Universal still not work with an 8GB SD card if that card was partitioned into 2x 4GB's? It certainly would be helpful if someone could try this? You just never know!

re
I guess no one will know for sure until someone tries it. BTW how do you partition a SD card anyways? Do you really think that could work?

hello
if SD 2.0 is the later version then would not all new 4 GB SD cards support "sector addressing" which would limit the ma. capacity to 2 GB

I have a 4gb that works in uni
I keep reading that people aren't able to use anything above a 2gb SD but I have been using a 4gb that I purchased on eBay for pver 6 months now. I used in with the original Jasjar ROM and also with JWrite's, Indra, and currently Helmi's. (not with the WM6's yet though)
It is interesting to note however that it won't work in any of my desktop or laptop systems without the included dongle. Not even the built in SD slot in my TC1100 tablet.
It says it's made by a company called "TopRam" if that helps anyone.
I also purchased an 8gb that SUPPOSEDLY supports SD 1.1 and 2.0 according to the documentation. It took a great deal of hunting to find one that didn't say it was HC and I'm still skeptical as to whether or not it will actually work, but as soon as it comes in and I have a chance to try it I will post the results here if anyone is interested.
I know there are one or two people here who make claims of such things, but if there are any doubters I will take some screenshots of the storage card memory screen if I need to.

SDHC uses a different software for the controller. The hardware is exactly the same. The point I'm trying to make, is that the SD people went to very radical lengths to ensure that there is no compatibility betweens SD and SDHC. They also have two different kinds of memory addressing. Bottom line, you can't use SDHC. Your device must say SDHC, and AFAIK, no PDA is SDHC compatible. With all of that said, I'm a Scoter owner, and we have valid reports of being able to access SDHC cards from a PC, through my device. It may be possible to create drivers for the SD controller, or create some kind of emulator, but that is a long way off. I've seen similar threads about those asking about 4 GB and 8 GB. Unfortunetly most don't understand the difference between SD and SDHC. SD is capable of 4 GB. SDHC starts at 2 GB and has potential in the terrabyte range. In addition, many of the real cheap 4 GB SD cards don't strictly adhere to SD standards, and may work on some reader designs, and not on others. A perfect example is that I bought a 4 GB SD card, that only works on one card reader, but not my PC reader or PDA.
Regards,
Jason

SDHC Patch
I just read on a forum for Palm Treo that they have a working patch for the Treo which forms compatibility of SDHC on the Treo.
Now perhaps we can take a lesson from them and see what changes where needed to make it work. Besides, you can't tell me that there are more people working of patches for the PalmOS than WM.

well , the sdhc 8gb does not work on my xda exec-universal. so I just bought a 4gbcard "MyMemory 4GB 133X SD" from ebay that is stated as being compatible 21.94 pounds.
I'll just use my sdhc 8gb as an expensive mem stick in my sweex sdhc reader .

got it
So I received my 8gb (supposedly NON SDHC) and as expected, it won't read in my Jasjar. I am going to try and reformat it into 2 or 4gb partitions to see if that will work but I am going guess and say no. It is already in fat32 but it doesn't recognize the card at all in the PDA. Just to make sure it was in fact a full 8gb (7.6gb actually) I copied a handfull of movies (7gb) to it and then ran them on another laptop and it is in fact a good card.
I can't repartition it in XP since it sees it as a removable disk, so as soon as I get my Linux laptop back up and running, I will repartition it there and see what happens. I don't expect much though.

TBOMB said:
So I received my 8gb (supposedly NON SDHC) and as expected, it won't read in my Jasjar.
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Could you, please, try AKU 3.5 ROM (Helmi 1.3.1 or Ivan B2)?
Because this ROM comes from device which support SDHC.
There were reports also, that Triniti with last Dopod ROM (AKU 3.5)
support Mini SDHC 4GB (maximum for mini SD now).
BTW tell us which ROM you are tryinng.

why not
If someone will send me the link to the rom files, I'll be glad to. I just don't have a lot of time right now to search the ftp site.
Two questions about Helmi's 1.3.1, first, will it support my bluetooth stereo headset like the pdaviet 207 I'm using now does? and second, I don't suppose any of these new roms has the new timechange fix already applied do they? I just don't want to keep reflashing my Jasjar and still having to apply all the reg fixes etc to correct for the new timezone/dst changes.

Guess nobody was in a hurry for me to test using the other ROMs as I have had no PM's with info as to where I can find the ROMS now that they are no longer on the ftp server here.
I find my copy of Helmi's aku3.5 1.3 and tried it with the 8gb (non-sdhc) card with no luck. I assumed as much. Not quite sure where you heard that it had SDHC support but I guess it doesn't.
I had the PDAVIET 2.0.0.0.7 or whatever the latest incarnation was and that didn't work either. I now have Helmi's WM6 1.1 that I put on last night and that one also doesn't work.
I'm sure we have some developers out there who know palm and ppc hardware who can take a look at the "fix" that was created for the Treo which allows SDHC use. I can "open" the prc file but I don't know enough about what I'm looking at to be helpful.
Not sure why this fix is so slow coming. Perhaps not enough people see the need for 8gb cards. I have a 4gb but I have to continue taking off stuff in order to put anything else on because it's always full.

Maximum Size Of a MicroSD (XDA Orbit)

Hello! I called the customer service of O2 today. It says that a storage-card (MicroSD) for the XDA Orbit cannot bei bigger than 512 MB. I cannot believe that but is this correct? Does anybody know the maximum size for a storage card?

Not true - my Orbit runs fine with a 1Gb card, as does my MDAC3.

I am happily running a 2Gb card in my Orbit

Where's the limit?
What about 2GB or 4GB? Will they work with the XDA Orbit?

SunDrop said:
What about 2GB or 4GB? Will they work with the XDA Orbit?
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Hi,
I'm not as experienced as some others on this forum... I'm sure they'll correct my info
I spent a day or so seraching for info before I got my card, and FWI here are my notes:
2GB fine.
4Gb may be problematic.
Thickness of SD card may be a problem. The latch/Phone card has to be correctly clicked into place around the card.
Some makes of card seem better. Sandisk HIGH SPEED seem to be good.
I've got a 2Gb version and it's ok, but read others experiences in the forums.
I got both Lexar and CNex tools to check formatting could be done with full control and also to provide recovery possibility.
Hope that may help.

damned micro sd card
please can someone help?
i have a 1gb sandisk micro card which is being reported by my orbit as 512mb(minus FAT). i put it into my computer and it is clearly 1gb. i have tried putting more onto the card via the orbit, and it says "no more space", but it is fine via the pc. what's going on?!?
thanks in advance,
Tom

Maybe you should try WM5Storage and format SD card on PC. There is detailed instruction how to do it on forum.

afaik there are no 4gb micro sd cards. 2gb is max for them atm

I sell 2gb micro sd for the orbit on a daily basis and had no problems with them, I even use one myself.
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/In-Shops-XDA-Accessories

Ice_mephi said:
afaik there are no 4gb micro sd cards. 2gb is max for them atm
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not true i have one and its working!

Mobile 2007 .... what make and how I was under the impression 4GB were not compatible?

I'm currently using a 2GB Sandisk microSD card and it is perfectly working.
Regarding 4GB microSD cards, they are called microSDHC (High Capacity) and as far as I know, the Artemis is not able to read from of write to them.

That's what I thought but it appears mobile2007 has got it to work?

I've got a 1gig with all sorts on it. I think 2gig is the biggest at the moment.

Stephen.Gazard said:
That's what I thought but it appears mobile2007 has got it to work?
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it works you can be sure
i tried some micro sd cards 4gb at the cebit
not all were working
i can also not tell you which card i have
i bought it at one of the thousands chinese stands (cebit 2007)
(cost 25€!)
how can i help you to find out what card i have
written on the card is sandisk, but i am not sure if this is right,
because i doesn't look like original sandisk.

mobile2007 said:
it works you can be sure
i tried some micro sd cards 4gb at the cebit
not all were working
i can also not tell you which card i have
i bought it at one of the thousands chinese stands (cebit 2007)
(cost 25€!)
how can i help you to find out what card i have
written on the card is sandisk, but i am not sure if this is right,
because i doesn't look like original sandisk.
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If what you say is true, you'd have made my day

Anyone have problems with 8gb microSD HC Cards?

Hi all
I have had a SanDisk 4gb microSD HC card for ages and it's worked perfectly. I recently bought a SanDisk 8gb one and have a permanent problem with it. When inserting it, sometimes my TP2 either fails to recognise it or if it does, sometimes it freezes some functions. The main problem is that the clock completely freezes. Unfortunately, it doesn't happen every time.
I put the card into a Card Reader on my laptop and ran a CHKDSK on it and it came up as OK.
Has anyone encountered the same problem or any solutions as to how to fix it. If I go back to the 4gb, it works fine so it's not the slot or device but doesn't look like the card either. I can copy stuff with my laptop over and back to the card no problem.
C

I have a SanDisk 8GB Class 2 SDHC card, and have no problems with it.
Try doing a full format on the card to see if that helps after copying all your files off it.
In addition to that, reflash your phone with a Stock ROM and then flash it with the current ROM you are using. Do this without having any card in the phone.
Also, If you have a can of compressed air lying around, use the nozzle tip and blow into the microSD card slot of the phone to try and clean it out.
Hopefully this helps.

No problems here. I started with a Sandisk 8GB Class 4 microSDHC and now have a Sandisk 16GB Class 2, and haven't had any problems with either one. I'd try a full re-format of the card and see if that helps.

I started with the Vodafone Stock ROM before changing for Deepshining v12. Could a ROM version cause issues or maybe the Radio ver ?
And how can I tell what Class my SDHC card is ?
C

i use a 8gb sd card.. no problems with it..

My 8GB Class 4 SanDisk MicroSDHC works perfectly. Sounds like you have a faulty or counterfeit card.

I'm using an 8gb class 4 Dane Elec (sp?) micro sd, and it works fine.
To see what class it is, look at the card. Does it have a circle with a number inside of it? It will either be 2, 4, or 6. If there is no circle with a number it's most likely a class 2.

I had the same problem which i actually solved by backing up the card and choosing to format it via my PC, check it out too.

I did a full format of the card using FAT32 but still no different. My card is a Class 2. My understanding of counterfeit cards was that they could only store a fraction of the supposed total whereas I can fit 8gb on this.
C

I started with a 1gb class 4, then 8gb class 2.
now im using 16gb class 2.
Ive never had any problems with any of them.
Sounds like a problem with the card.
You could buy another 8gb and try that one. But you'd have to fork out more money just to see if it is the card.
Best i can suggest im afraid

Hi all again,
I've tried the 8gb card now in a HTC Kaiser (never knew it could take an 8gb) and it works perfectly. Therefore, it must be something with my Touch Pro2. So would it be the ROM or the Radio which could potentially screw up access to the 8gb card ?
C

[q] note 2 64gb micro sdxc problem

HELLO FRIENDS
I HAVE N7100 AND OVER 1 YEAR I HAD 32GB MICRO SD CALSS 10
I HAD 13MB\S WRITE SPEED AND EVERYTHING WAS GREAT
LAST MONTH I HAD TO USE MORE THEN 40GB SO I Bought SANDISK 64GB MICRO SDXC
I FORMATED IT TO EXFAT AND THE DEVICE WORKS GREAT WITH HIM
BUT WHEN I CONNECTING THE DEVICE TO PC THE WRITE SPEED IS 7MB\S
AND WHEN I OPEN THE GALLERY APP IN THE DEVICE -- THE PICTURES LOADS VERY SLOW...
THE CARD IS GENUINE AND ORIGINAL
WHAT CAN I DO?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-SanDisk...ass-10-30MB-s-SDSDQUA-064G-U46A-/251144066147

help?

please?

I'll take a stab at this...
lidor578 said:
HELLO FRIENDS
I HAVE N7100 AND OVER 1 YEAR I HAD 32GB MICRO SD CALSS 10
I HAD 13MB\S WRITE SPEED AND EVERYTHING WAS GREAT
LAST MONTH I HAD TO USE MORE THEN 40GB SO I Bought SANDISK 64GB MICRO SDXC
I FORMATED IT TO EXFAT AND THE DEVICE WORKS GREAT WITH HIM
BUT WHEN I CONNECTING THE DEVICE TO PC THE WRITE SPEED IS 7MB\S
AND WHEN I OPEN THE GALLERY APP IN THE DEVICE -- THE PICTURES LOADS VERY SLOW...
THE CARD IS GENUINE AND ORIGINAL
WHAT CAN I DO?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-SanDisk...ass-10-30MB-s-SDSDQUA-064G-U46A-/251144066147
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When connecting the device via USB cable, don't expect the transfer speeds to be that great. MTP is the default transfer protocol if you didn't change it. If you need to move files off of your MicroSD card quickly, its best to remove the media card from the Note 2 and put it into a card reader. As for the gallery app on the device, from what I have experienced is if you are using the card for the first few times it may take some time for the picture thumb nails to enumerate completely, especially when you have a lot of photos/videos.
This is purely from experience. I hope this helps a bit.

flashred said:
When connecting the device via USB cable, don't expect the transfer speeds to be that great. MTP is the default transfer protocol if you didn't change it. If you need to move files off of your MicroSD card quickly, its best to remove the media card from the Note 2 and put it into a card reader. As for the gallery app on the device, from what I have experienced is if you are using the card for the first few times it may take some time for the picture thumb nails to enumerate completely, especially when you have a lot of photos/videos.
This is purely from experience. I hope this helps a bit.
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but why ?
if i use the reader the speed is up to 10mb
if i use the reader with the adata 32gb the speed is 18mb !
about the reading pictures ---# why its happens ?
and why the thums sits on my internal memory ?
i dont know what to do )-:

lidor578 said:
but why ?
if i use the reader the speed is up to 10mb
if i use the reader with the adata 32gb the speed is 18mb !
about the reading pictures ---# why its happens ?
and why the thums sits on my internal memory ?
i dont know what to do )-:
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