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I Might Be Wrong But I Think This Phone Does Not Need Custom Roms

I had the gsm version of the GN on Tmobile and now i have the CDMA/LTE Version with Verizon and I got to say this is the first phone that I can actually say there is no need for a custom rom. I had the galaxy s, mytouch 4g, htc sensation and on all those phones a custom rom was always a must and that is not the case with this phone. I have tried many custom roms on here both gsm and cdma and I still havent found one that runs any better, faster or smoother then the stock one. Dont get me wrong I appreciate the developers working on this phone but thats just my opinion I wanted to share with everyone specially the people new to this phone. All you need is root and your good to go for a few custom mods and wireless tethering

No phone needs a custom ROM. A lot of people want custom ROMs. Some may want them more than others. You're happy with the stock setup and thats great. Doesn't mean everyone is.

True thats why I said I might be wrong. Just expressing my thoughts about this phone so far

Custom roms ruin phones. Too many issues. I dont care if they make certain parts better; they always cause more issues than it's worth IMO.
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I agree. I am running 4.0.3 but it's stock.
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If they would have thru in wifi tether i might agree with you. Anyone find a web browser that makes full screen movies yet? Dolphin needs to update. Please?

brian85 said:
Custom roms ruin phones. Too many issues. I dont care if they make certain parts better; they always cause more issues than it's worth IMO.
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I agree. Not that I'm ungrateful to the modders/devs but I don't know how many times I've seen "smooth as butter, no bugs, ultra fast" etc only to have multiple issues with a ROM.

I totally disagree. My Nexus is running much better after rooting and running a custom ROM. And I have absolutely no issues to speak of other than better battery life and a noticeably faster phone.

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I totally disagree. My Nexus is running much better after rooting and running a custom ROM. And I have absolutely no issues to speak of other than better battery life and a noticeably faster phone.
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O.K. I will bite. I assume you are on Verizon. Which ROM and kernel, etc?

i havent done a thing to my hspa GN...dont feel the need to.

liverstealerJobs said:
O.K. I will bite. I assume you are on Verizon. Which ROM and kernel, etc?
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I feel the same way.
I'm on AOKP build X1 with Leankernel 1.1.0. Custom voltages as well.

I'm on the fence about this, might give a custom from a try soon. Think I'll stick with the stock kernel for a while though.
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kangxi said:
I agree. I am running 4.0.3 but it's stock.
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Could you provide a link? Thank you.

Many people get a development-friendly Google Experience phone such as this for the express purpose of using custom ROMs. Many others just want a straight Android phone with no TouchWiz/Sense/Blur on it and that gets timely software updates. To each his own (though I like to push the boundaries of Android's potential and try various ROM/kernel/mod/theme combinations). Yes, custom ROMs often have bugs in them (our devs often work alone or with small teams for free and squeeze dev work between job and family life - besides, even stock has bugs, and Google has legions of coders and testers). In addition to some bugs, though, they usually offer performance, features, and eye candy not available on stock.
Has anyone seen John Connor?

this is what I'm on all stock rooted and clockwork recovery. battery life is great and I don't have the problems that some people have experienced with google apps and with the market not restoring etc. and like I said I have tried custom roms on both the GSM and CDMA/LTE Galaxy Nexus. just sharing my experience on both phone also to add Verizons Network runs 2-3 times faster then Tmobile's Network in Los Angeles.
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Personally I'm going to stay stock until a kernal that catches my eye comes out

Storm T said:
I totally disagree. My Nexus is running much better after rooting and running a custom ROM. And I have absolutely no issues to speak of other than better battery life and a noticeably faster phone.
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Totally agree.
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i have to agree. i am rooted but find no rom got my interest. maybe cm9, but it's not stable yet.

my main reason to root my phones have always been to remove all the sh!t that verizon puts in their phones, so with this one being 90% crapware free,i feel no need to root it.

A ROM may not be necessary, but a new launcher for sure. Nova launcher allows enough customization to do most things.
Roman just released a "milestone" ROM version of aokp that's solid and ships with stock kernel. His drop down toggles are the best.
Its my daily driver now for sure. I hit it hard flashing since I bought this phone, but need to take a break and this ROM is it for me. And I'm sticking with stock kernel just to keep GTA 3 working

Attn: Those with >5 hours on screen time

So I have never been able to get more than 4 hours on screen time. And I would like to get to the bottom of this. If you have any suggestions for me to add to this list that would help us get to the bottom of this fiasco please don't hesitate to post.
Those with more than 5 hours on screen time please post your setup here.
ROM and VERSION:
MODEM:
KERNEL:
MODS:
APP/SCRIPT USED TO CONTROL KERNEL/CPU:
MIN/MAX FREQ/GOVERNOR/SCHEDULER/ETC:
UNDERVOLT:
BATTERY PROFILES (if any):
BRIGHTNESS SETTING:
WHAT YOU USE YOUR PHONE FOR ON A DAILY BASIS:
And a screen shot of your battery usage, display time, badass battery monitor (it's an app) main screen and badass battery monitor app usage. This will hopefully help us determine where the problem lies if it's with our usage, device, or setup.

Even though I don't have more than 5 hours on screen time I will post just as an example.
ROM and VERSION: BLAZER 3.5
MODEM: EK02
KERNEL: EL13 ROGUE STOCK KERNEL
MODS: ACS ICS THEME
APP/SCRIPT USED TO CONTROL KERNEL/CPU: Tegrak
MIN/MAX FREQ/GOVERNOR/SCHEDULER/ETC:
200/1000
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BATTERY PROFILES (if any):
none
BRIGHTNESS SETTING:
30%
WHAT YOU USE YOUR PHONE FOR ON A DAILY BASIS:
Texting, surfing on 3g and wifi 50/50, and a little bit of gaming sometimes not often.
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maybe display time on would be a little helpful

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Is my post too complicated :-(
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Wtf are you running? Haha wow
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caaznkid said:
Is my post too complicated :-(
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Maybe no one is getting 5 hours of screen time
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I think when I took the shot it was at 37 hours. Most of the screen on was from kindle though. Running Unnamed EL13 stock settings

I wish I was getting 20 hrs..
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Holy **** that's amazing
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I think when I took the shot it was at 37 hours. Most of the screen on was from kindle though. Running Unnamed EL13 stock settings
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I don't have a screenshot right now to post but I get 5+ hours of display time. This is what I can tell you about my setup.
TNZ Blendz ROM ICS Version 2.5.3 EL26
Stock Repack EL26 kernel and radio
Using Tegrak to under volt -75 on internal -100 on core voltage -50 on GPU
I do mostly reading and tweaking on my phone. I play games here and there but when I do its games like Asphault and Dead Space. Depending on if I'm playing games alot I can get anywhere from 4-7 hours of display time.
Also as a side note I removed all of the screen state and voltage scripts from system/etc/init.d since I use Tegrak to do that for me and so there isnt any conflict.
Also forgot to include I normally stay at around 10% brightness unless I'm outside or in direct sunlight. I try to keep my screen turned down as much as possible.

Are you at 5 hours surfing the net on a weak 3g connection or 5 hours looking at a white background in airplane mode
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bbedward said:
Are you at 5 hours surfing the net on a weak 3g connection or 5 hours looking at a white background in airplane mode
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Ive done a 3G radio test with screen off that died at 6.5 hours just to put against that question lol. Decent 3G usage will kill a phone long before a screen will unless I did it wrong. Epic amounts of playtime listening to music on phone maybe pretty good over wifi?
Ive yet to get this much screen time without killing the phone in the same amount of time. I cant say running Calkulin's has made any tremendous difference in my battery life given I keep the screen at 25% which is probably brighter than the auto brightness would after he modified it. Im just an abuser on everything else and normally I like my screen much brighter but can get away with less since I am mostly indoors.

This is my typical daily usage.
Probably about half and half is done on 3G and Wifi
Browse Tapatalk quite often
Read several articles on Google Currents "sync at least once a day"
Checking Facebook, Twitter, and Google+ often
Reading Reddit several times a day.
Emails
Texting, this is do alot of
Google Talk, again this is do alot of
Phone calls, not so much, maybe five calls a day.
Check market daily for updates, sometimes more depending on if apps are updated.
Sync all accounts in PageOnce at least once a day, sometimes more.
I'm sure I missed a few things but that's about the average daily use for me. I spend about 60% of my day on my phone. This thing is a lifeline for me and acts as a hub for my communications if that gives ya an idea of how I use it.
Edit. I will post a screenshot once the day is out. I've been flashing back and forth between CM7 and TNZ and now that I'm back on TNZ with a fresh setup I'm calibrating my battery. Once I get that done I will post some screenshots that may help you see my usages.

PinnerProxy said:
Wtf are you running? Haha wow
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Calkulin e4gt v 2. 8 rom
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caaznkid said:
Is my post too complicated :-(
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Ha! Sometimes when I feel like I am walking into a coffee shop filled with retired old men when I read replies in here.
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But seriously, the power the display uses is based on brightness and, I am pretty sure, on what color is being displayed. those are the only ways to "under volt" the display.
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It can be undervolted at the kernel level as Glitch used to do that with his kernel for the mesmerize/fascinate. It helped a little but not tremendously. And you see absolutely correct as it requires more power to display say white vs black. That's why black wallpapers and inverted apps on amoled displays will help battery. This is the opposite for LCD. I find though that inverted apps like on Reddit and tapatalk make me turn up the brightness at times to be able to see easily which of course counters the savings on power. So I don't use them like that. It all depends on how one uses the phone. What I consider light usage may be heavy to you and so on. Everyone will have different results. But one thing that will always stay common is the display will use more juice than anything else on the phone normally.

Best ROM for a mother that loves the stock phone?

Has complete stock functionality but subtlety fixes any bugs that would be obvious to the casual user.
My mother's GS2 definitely needs some finishing touches that Samsung couldn't crank out.
Can somebody point me to the best stock-ish ROM in this forum?
Thanks to the people who make good suggestions.
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I would say Calkulins rom. Has the stock look and feel but is superior in every category when it comes to the stock rom. I feel it's how the phone should come stock.

I would suggest a stock 2.6 ROM, SpeedMod kernel and Jkays Deluxe.
Also check out CheckROM if you really wanna go down the route of a new ROM
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Rizur said:
I would suggest a stock 2.6 ROM, SpeedMod kernel and Jkays Deluxe.
Also check out CheckROM if you really wanna go down the route of a new ROM
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please do NOT do any of that. you will probably brick the phone. use calks. its really good and pretty much a stock feel. 2.8.1 is the one u want. the guy above me was suggesting a rom not for the epic. remember just because its an S2 doesn't mean we can flash their roms. stay in our dev section or the phone will likely be done for good.

Your going to get alot of different opinions on this topic, but I am going with Calkulin's on this one.
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hopefully me chiming in will make your choice easier. I went with Caulkins rom too for my wife. She likes the stock feel and it has that and like everyone else said its superior to stock. I upgraded my modem to el29 which has been the best for me. also if you have gps issues flash the gps driver.

One more vote for Calkulin's Rom. Stock looking with great battery life because of the battery scripts it runs. You don't need to know anything about the scripts, they just run in the background. There are also some really great themes available if she wants to make it pretty. Try flashing different modems until you find the best one. Personally I've had the best luck with EL26 but everyone's results are different.

For a stock look I'd say Calks as well. Or you could just root her phone, add Titanium Backup and add and subtract from the stock rom itself........

Yup flash Calkulin and your done. Don't bother with any weird combinations.

I guess you got your answer yeah?
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I guess you got your answer yeah?
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Just in case, go with Calkulin

Holy hell guys, thanks for the quick response. Now I just have to convince my mom to let me get my hands on that phone of hers! Haha, thanks again.

I'll vote just root what she has and make simple mods. If you do any type of custom rom, anything that goes wrong, you'll have to be her tech support because she'll blame whatever you installed as the issue, true or not.

Same here. Stock + rooted.
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I agree Calkulins is the best on here if your looking for something close to stock that has speed and performance

Calkulin's, without a doubt. Put the EL13 modem on it though
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Ga101698 said:
For a stock look I'd say Calks as well. Or you could just root her phone, add Titanium Backup and add and subtract from the stock rom itself........
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this is what I did for my wife when she first got the phone. Stock EK02, only rooted. I disabled CIQ, used titanium backup to freeze sprint bloatware, and disabled DRM.
I think for the EL29 update, i'll just flash Caulk's ROM (like what everyone is suggesting) so at least she'll have the battery scripts, modded camera app, 5 dock icons, bloatware removed, and little tweaks like that. I would just use titanium back up to make periodic backups to her external SD card.

My vote (which probably doesn't mean very much as a noob but I just like to be different) goes to BlazerROM. I love the theme and she shouldn't feel particularly lost coming from the stock ROM. I'm running it currently and it's been very good to me.
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I get about 3 days out of my battery before the meter hits 30% with moderate use (checking facebook a few times a day, Words With Friends, Music player for short trips in the car, etc.) which I think is pretty good considering I always have WiFi on at home (turn it off while travelling unless I know there's a hotspot around). I am extremely anal about killing processes when I'm done with them though, so a casual user may not see the same results.
*E* P.S. if she likes to shop then Google Goggles would probably blow her mind.

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Yup flash Calkulin and your done. Don't bother with any weird combinations.
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My Vote. Don't Fn touch it ya fool. If any little thing goes wrong,or as with most parents USER ERROR. It will be your ass she calls first. Just play with your own toys.

[Q] Battery Rom Question.

Hellos guys I would like to know wich Rom out there has the best battery life.??? Im running the latest juggernaut..thanks.

I would say dewizzled
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I'm not sure if you can just say best battery life is XXX as everyone's usage patterns are different and different aspects drain the battery faster than others. I have found Dewizzed to give me the best life out of all of the ones I've tried, but I don't get near the time that many post in that thread. The one difference is that when they post their usage stats I never see "Voice Calls" in the top half of the apps using battery, whereas if I look at mine right now Voice calls is #1 at 53% and Display is #2 at 18%. I use my phone heavily as a phone during the workweek, others use it as a media device, others gaming...you get the idea.
Try Dewizzed and try a couple of others. It's easy to flash and then restore or go back to one that works better for you (plus the geek in me thinkgs that is fun too).

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How about NO ROM? I am using stock right now, but using Faux #009 mainstream Kernel. I was running Jugg 4.1 before, but went back to stock after having some issues with texts not going through.

Im going to try some of the roms.. I
Thanks guys

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I'm not sure if you can just say best battery life is XXX as everyone's usage patterns are different and different aspects drain the battery faster than others. I have found Dewizzed to give me the best life out of all of the ones I've tried, but I don't get near the time that many post in that thread. The one difference is that when they post their usage stats I never see "Voice Calls" in the top half of the apps using battery, whereas if I look at mine right now Voice calls is #1 at 53% and Display is #2 at 18%. I use my phone heavily as a phone during the workweek, others use it as a media device, others gaming...you get the idea.
Try Dewizzed and try a couple of others. It's easy to flash and then restore or go back to one that works better for you (plus the geek in me thinkgs that is fun too).
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Voice call!
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How about NO ROM? I am using stock right now, but using Faux #009 mainstream Kernel. I was running Jugg 4.1 before, but went back to stock after having some issues with texts not going through.
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WOW! thats pretty impressive. what's your time on display?

I was wondering the same thing. But more along the lines of which rom kernel combo people are running. Now to hijack original posters thread, but if people could also put what kernel they are running too. The best I ever got was BeastMod with Synergy, but once he left the building I don't feel like any of the other ones have been as good.

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How about NO ROM? I am using stock right now, but using Faux #009 mainstream Kernel. I was running Jugg 4.1 before, but went back to stock after having some issues with texts not going through.
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That tells us little, click on display and show us how much time the display has actually been on

From my experience, it is not necessarily the rom that effects the battery life as much as the kernel does. Every rom I have installed I end up changing the kernel to synergy 10 and see a big increase in battery life.
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DensoYamaha41 said:
From my experience, it is not necessarily the rom that effects the battery life as much as the kernel does. Every rom I have installed I end up changing the kernel to synergy 10 and see a big increase in battery life.
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+1 on the syngery kernel.

+1 on Synergy kernel
Juggernaut was OK for battery life, much better than stock, but I couldn't be any happier than with BeastMOD and synergy kernel.

hoopdaddy6 said:
+1 on Synergy kernel
Juggernaut was OK for battery life, much better than stock, but I couldn't be any happier than with BeastMOD and synergy kernel.
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Display time on and brightness? From the graph it doesn't seem like you used the phone for too much and we don't know how bright your screen was, time on voice calls and any other applications. Why is it that people don't know how to post battery life correctly? Your wifi was on most of the time and wifi uses less battery than data connectivity plus we don't know the type of reception you were receiving. Edge consumes less battery than 3G. These are all factors that need to be taken into consideration to draw a clear conclusion on your battery life.
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Custom Kernel - What do you say?

Hi everyone, for a long time i see ppl claiming their phone last longer due to a custom kernel.
Normally i read they saying "i could never make my phone lasting with 2hs screen on or lasting for 2 days".
Anyway, its obviously that this will depend 100% what ppl do with their phone accordingly to apps, widgets, syncing, etc.
For me, normally i have around 3 and a half hour screen on and around 1 day and a half to 2 days.
I do use WiFi and 3G alot... browsing, gaming, texting, etc.
My point is that i belive ppl have a placebo effect. Custom kernel will give you faster response, OC ability and other advantages.
What do you guys say?
Attached are some screenshot from my 100% stock phone.
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I just believe some of the little tweaks devs do to a custom kernel do make a difference.

I bag 4h30m on my gnex regularly.

Yea I totally agree that stock performs just as well in the battery life department. All I care about is having root.
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Your battery life won't really get better than that. I really agree that there's often a placebo effect in switching roms/kernels, i only use a different kernel for color settings volume boost via Francos app. Stick with stock though I'd say, but of course it's always nice to try out kernels, despite the placebo effect.
Speaking of which though, I'm performing a real life test seeing which governors on my kernel work best for battery life. I simply switch then lol at my screen on time and see if it's improved, I'm assuming hotplugx will win, so we'll see. Interactive is still a great balanced on though.
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It made a difference for me personally, because I wasn't getting very good battery life at all with the stock kernel. The other tweaks were also a pretty good bonus.
You're getting pretty great battery life as is though, I wouldn't worry too much about changing to a custom kernel if you're consistently getting numbers like those.

Thanks everybody for the feedback. I guess we are all at the same page.
Cheers
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Thanks everybody for the feedback. I guess we are all at the same page.
Cheers
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Thank you for not just asking "what is best Kernal"
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Battery life or not but performance of the phone definitely improves with custom kernels... Asphalt 7 use to lag a bit on stock JRO03C but after trying Franco kernel Milestone 6 no lag or reboots whatsoever..
In fact I have a placebo that custom kernels reduce battery life

Worth it for the small performance improvements alone but I do get a little better battery life.
Even a few percent better is better than nothing when you sit in a building with poor reception and your battery takes a hit from your phone having a low signal

TheQuarterMile said:
Battery life or not but performance of the phone definitely improves with custom kernels... Asphalt 7 use to lag a bit on stock JRO03C but after trying Franco kernel Milestone 6 no lag or reboots whatsoever..
In fact I have a placebo that custom kernels reduce battery life
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Somehow i think the same! All my attemps with custom kernels drove me to less juice... but a hell of fastness..
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Personally, I run trinity...
Mostly for it's colors but I did seem to go from 1 day to 2 days without charging after the switch (placebo...?)

My battery suddenly dropped from 15% to 0% on Milestone 6... Now I'm back on stock custom kernels are like 3rd party engine mods on a car..

I say Franco...

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I bag 4h30m on my gnex regularly.
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What mods have you done to your phone? I am running aokp build 4 with Franco kernel milestone 6 and I'm starting to see some good numbers too.

PoorOldMoot said:
What mods have you done to your phone? I am running aokp build 4 with Franco kernel milestone 6 and I'm starting to see some good numbers too.
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How good?

i say that's some sick stats man! keep up the crackflashing!

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How good?
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3+ hours screen on time, 12+ hours standby. I didn't think it was possible, my battery bad been draining pretty quickly. I think the key this time was that I was on WiFi all day.

PoorOldMoot said:
What mods have you done to your phone? I am running aokp build 4 with Franco kernel milestone 6 and I'm starting to see some good numbers too.
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no sync because i don't have the data to go syncing the whole day, auto brightness, 3g outside, wifi at home. Web browsing only, i don't play games on my phone, it's reserved for my computer.

Stock kernel, stock ROM. Turn off auto sync unless you are connected to a wifi hotspot. This will give you 3 hours screen on time and 12+ hours uptime. I have 3 email accounts set up, but they do not sync automatically. I manually check my email in the am, at lunch, and evening.
Stock kernel, unless you can't help but obsess about making your phone "fast". If you want fast, go into Development Options within Settings and turn off all animations, then install a launcher like Nova and turn animations to "faster than light".
I used to flash all kinds of mods on my phone and I realized that was ALL I did with my phone, tinker and troubleshoot it. I will only unlock and root my phone if we stop getting the latest OS updates. In the meantime, nothing is so wrong with the stock kernel and rom that should make you install Bob's OS. But you know, that's the beauty of Android. You can decide what you do with your phone. Hope my point of view makes you reconsider flashing any custom software.
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