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Hi,
I wonder what will be the differences between the Desire and the Supersonic.
As far as I know the Supersonic is the same as the Desire but has the 4.3" screen like the HD2 has had. Ans the over all design may differ.
So did you here some more differences between them two?
And when does the Supersonic come? I heard in summer, maybe june?!
And more RAM/ROM, each with 1gb
I heard also that they'll come out in the summertime.
I just get what is available at the time.. I.e when the iPhone 3gs came out I gave that a go.. Gave that up for the HD2.. Will be changing from the HD2 to the desire... Next will either be Supersonic? or Possible next iPhone??? Unless something more interesting arrives in the mean time.. Guess its a bit like PC's... You could always be waiting for the next best thing the way smart phones are going at the moment..
Then go for the HTC Scorpion/Olympian in Q3 2010. With dual-core snapdragon 1.5Ghz
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/09/htc-scorpion-with-1-5ghz-snapdragon-wimax-tipped-in-build-file/
Qualcomm details:
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The single-chip, dual-CPU QSD8672™ includes most of the above features, in addition to:
* Dual CPUs, up to 1.5 GHz for faster response and processing
* Low-power 45nm process technology for higher integration and performance
* Higher-resolution WSXGA ([B]1440 x 900[/B]) display support
* High-definition (1080p) video recording and playback
* Support for HSPA+ networks - 28 Mbps downloads and 11 Mbps uploads
* Supports CDMA2000 1X, 1xEV-DO Rel 0/A/B networks
* Improved 3D graphics - up to 80M triangles/sec and 500M+ 3D pixels/sec
Yeah as far as I know it has a 4.3 inch screen and maybe some more RAM and ROM. I have an 4.3 inch screen now, which has pro's and con's. IMO the perfect screen would be between 3.7 and 4.0 inch..
The supersonic is probably going to be more expensive as well. I would go for the desire.
@XDA mark.
Can you say a little bit more about the screen size?
Whats the downside for you of a 4.3"?
i hope verizon gets one of these high powered phones
Polarfuchs said:
Then go for the HTC Scorpion/Olympian in Q3 2010. With dual-core snapdragon 1.5Ghz
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/09/htc-scorpion-with-1-5ghz-snapdragon-wimax-tipped-in-build-file/
Qualcomm details:
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The single-chip, dual-CPU QSD8672™ includes most of the above features, in addition to:
* Dual CPUs, up to 1.5 GHz for faster response and processing
* Low-power 45nm process technology for higher integration and performance
* Higher-resolution WSXGA ([B]1440 x 900[/B]) display support
* High-definition (1080p) video recording and playback
* Support for HSPA+ networks - 28 Mbps downloads and 11 Mbps uploads
* Supports CDMA2000 1X, 1xEV-DO Rel 0/A/B networks
* Improved 3D graphics - up to 80M triangles/sec and 500M+ 3D pixels/sec
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Great scott, that is mighty powerful. If this is true, my next phone will have a better display than my 15.6'' vaio laptop.
Polarfuchs said:
@XDA mark.
Can you say a little bit more about the screen size?
Whats the downside for you of a 4.3"?
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Sorry to but in. I've owned the HD2 as well. The 4.3" is awesome to use but it is a fraction on the big side (and I have large hands). You will need deep pockets or a purse.
After a month, I was used to it and it felt perfectly natural. Having said that, I think I agree with the sentiment that 3.7" - 4.0" is the sweet spot.
So does the Supersonic come to Germany?
If it really is a Wimax device I sadly think : "No".
Because Germany doesn't get wimax but LTE.
Source:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/wimax-enabled-htc-supersonic-rumored-to-debut-on-sprint-at-ctia/
Polarfuchs said:
So does the Supersonic come to Germany?
If it really is a Wimax device I sadly think : "No".
Because Germany doesn't get wimax but LTE.
Source:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/wimax-enabled-htc-supersonic-rumored-to-debut-on-sprint-at-ctia/
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The Supersonic looks like its going to Sprint. They use CDMA, so it wont be coming to Europe at all. I was so disappointed when i found this out, but i moved on to the Desire..
Yeah if thats the truth I will get a Desire too (silver or brown? )
silver looks really good, but i think ima stick with brown.
Polarfuchs said:
@XDA mark.
Can you say a little bit more about the screen size?
Whats the downside for you of a 4.3"?
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Sure.
First of all, 4.3'' screen means BIG phone. It is just a tiny bit to large to stay 'naturally' in your hand. When you have 2 hands available and you are not moving it is not such a big problem, but when only having one hand and on the move it can be 'not pleasant'. So again, nothing that is really bad, but it is not perfect either.
4.3'' inch screen with 480x800 resolution also is not as sharp as 3.7 inch and the same resolution. Not that the HD2's screen is not amazing though.
Overall what I am trying to say is: it is nice to have a 4.3'' inch screen, but somehow I feel it is not needed. The iPhone's screen is now tiny for me, and I feel that is TOO small. But I asume 3.7'' is just fine. I really think at the moment 3.7 to 4.0 inch is the perfect size, for the current operating system's and applications made for them.
Hope this clears up what I was talking about
To not forget that 4.3 inch screen can be very nice sometimes: Browsing and watching movies is off course better on such a large screen!
Polarfuchs said:
Then go for the HTC Scorpion/Olympian in Q3 2010. With dual-core snapdragon 1.5Ghz
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/09/htc-scorpion-with-1-5ghz-snapdragon-wimax-tipped-in-build-file/
Qualcomm details:
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The single-chip, dual-CPU QSD8672™ includes most of the above features, in addition to:
* Dual CPUs, up to 1.5 GHz for faster response and processing
* Low-power 45nm process technology for higher integration and performance
* Higher-resolution WSXGA ([B]1440 x 900[/B]) display support
* High-definition (1080p) video recording and playback
* Support for HSPA+ networks - 28 Mbps downloads and 11 Mbps uploads
* Supports CDMA2000 1X, 1xEV-DO Rel 0/A/B networks
* Improved 3D graphics - up to 80M triangles/sec and 500M+ 3D pixels/sec
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Dual 1.5GHz CPU?? The battery will have to be the size of a small African Nation to get more than a few hours use from it?
wankingweiner said:
The Supersonic looks like its going to Sprint. They use CDMA, so it wont be coming to Europe at all. I was so disappointed when i found this out, but i moved on to the Desire..
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There is also a special T-Mobile US Version of HD2... I think the Supersonic
will come to europe with other bands used over here... HTC dont produces
such a nice phone and miss the chance to make much money....
StuMcBill said:
Dual 1.5GHz CPU?? The battery will have to be the size of a small African Nation to get more than a few hours use from it?
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Indeed I don't see why we would need that much power from our phones. The Desire should be powerful enough, and we can leave dual-core CPUs for our laptops.
Yeah but the Supersonic with 1Ghz and 4.3" Screen would be a good alternativ with a bigger screen for the Desire.
They did announce it yesterday as Sprint HTC EVO 4g and I hope it gets to Germany/Europe.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/htc-evo-4g-is-sprints-android-powered-knight-in-superphone-armo/
Knowing the way HTC likes to play mix and match with it's phones I would not pt it past them to release a 3G GSM version of the supersonic, though obviously it would be called something else.
Baldyman1966 said:
Knowing the way HTC likes to play mix and match with it's phones I would not pt it past them to release a 3G GSM version of the supersonic, though obviously it would be called something else.
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yeah im waiting for the day. Glad this happened becuase i was about to buy the Desire, but i'll see what materializes first
found this on gsm arena on the table of phones is the HTC HD3 name HTC HD7 maybe a windows 7 phone ??
http://blog.gsmarena.com/htc-hd7-to-launch-in-october-it’s-a-renamed-hd3/
found this on pocketnow
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/htc-hd3-hd7-rumored-again-features-amazing-spec-sheet
Nice looks great i also hope the desire HD has I 1.5ghz dragon inside
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=771580
Almost too good to be true... I'd love to have a WXGA (1280x720) screen resolution!
Do you guys really think of dual-core arm 1,5 ghz cpu?
ne0cr0n said:
found this on pocketnow
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/htc-hd3-hd7-rumored-again-features-amazing-spec-sheet
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Do you guys really think of dual-core arm 1,5 ghz cpu?
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Old news: http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Sna...bile-CPU-war-beyond-1GHz-article-a_12546.html
So, where is it? Can't be that it hasn't been leaked if the release is so soon.
I spotted this a few days ago as well... I am not sure what to make of it as the info for it is rather scarce and tbh anyone can make a spreadsheet like that... and say it is an official "leaked" document from HTC...
I remain skeptic on this issue. If anyone can confirm this to be true, I will personally make an article for the front page for it.
4.5 inches? I'm not too sure if I would go for something that big.
3.8", yes. But don't people find 4.3" and up to be a little bit too big? Its like a mini-tablet.
Also, I was reading that article on the CPUs. Will you need a graphics chip in your phone in order to play high-quality 3D games or will a 1.2 ghz core 2 duo be able to handle that?
My plan expires this winter, so I am looking almost frantically for the perfect phone with dual cores and awesome performance and all that . (best time for my plan to expire)
4.3 is fine. Not sure about "and up". 3.5 is too small.
theomni said:
4.5 inches? I'm not too sure if I would go for something that big.
3.8", yes. But don't people find 4.3" and up to be a little bit too big? Its like a mini-tablet.
Also, I was reading that article on the CPUs. Will you need a graphics chip in your phone in order to play high-quality 3D games or will a 1.2 ghz core 2 duo be able to handle that?
My plan expires this winter, so I am looking almost frantically for the perfect phone with dual cores and awesome performance and all that . (best time for my plan to expire)
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The bigger the better - I think I can go as high as 5". I've actually been looking at tablets myself. Right now I'm trying it all on for size: I have a travel laptop, an alienware laptop (it's not what I would call airplane portable, but I can take my desktop with me if I want to, and I do want to ), an iPad, and my phone.
Ultimately, I'd like it to be the phone and the mongo-laptop - so a bigger screen would be better. There are just some things / situations that lend themselves better to each of the 4 devices as they are right now.
As for the GPU - it's already in the 1.2 dual core chips (they are a System On a Chip - SOC). And yes, I think it's needed for the best 3D rendering but I'm not an expert
I'd like to have it.. only if..
Hmm.. spotted this in Google when looking for Win Phone 7 info.
Definitely, the spec is too good to be true.
One thing is that *no* GPS was mentioned in any of the posts..
But if I have to choose, I'd like to have GPS over HDMI..
Also, it seems Win Phone 7 still do not include multi-language input..
That means if I buy this phone, I'll have to search the Google again for JPN+Korean+Chinese input again, not to mention that it is highly possible to hard-reset the mobile for million times
I believe that 1800 mAh is not enough. HD3 will need to charge two times daily.
Cant beleive people here are falling for this BS:
http://nak-design.over-blog.fr/pages/HTC_HD3_by_NAK_-2727167.html
efjay said:
Cant beleive people here are falling for this BS:
http://nak-design.over-blog.fr/pages/HTC_HD3_by_NAK_-2727167.html
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Only some - that has been floating around since, what, February this year? Something like that
ne0cr0n said:
found this on pocketnow
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/htc-hd3-hd7-rumored-again-features-amazing-spec-sheet
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It's a french blogger that made that more than 6 months ago.....
Worse still - news yesterday was that even though Qualcom is shipping the 1.5 GHz dual core chips later this year, they wont make it into devices until mid to late next year. So, you can pretty much bet that the HD7 will not be 1.5GHz, if it is released this year.
eknutson said:
Worse still - news yesterday was that even though Qualcom is shipping the 1.5 GHz dual core chips later this year, they wont make it into devices until mid to late next year. So, you can pretty much bet that the HD7 will not be 1.5GHz, if it is released this year.
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For those of us with HD2s, there is little motivation to move to a WP7 then. The 1.5ghz units will probably sport a better version of WP7 anyways.
Is that possible for the note 8. I like the size but need to be able to have windows accessible for certain things? Thanks in advance to any help with this.
shadowkid8391 said:
Is that possible for the note 8. I like the size but need to be able to have windows accessible for certain things? Thanks in advance to any help with this.
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Don't think so, but you could try remote desktop, e.g. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tux.client. It works.
Yea i can do that now just don't want it to be sluggish. Any tips on a tablet that can dual boot windows and android?
shadowkid8391 said:
Yea i can do that now just don't want it to be sluggish. Any tips on a tablet that can dual boot windows and android?
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What sort of things do you need windows for that you don't think you can do on a tablet.
In answer to your question an x86 based windows tablet (excluding the surface pro) should theoretically be able to run the x86 port of android but it's not going to be the sort of experience you are thinking of.
If you want windows buy a laptop.
If you want android buy a tablet.
we are simply not to the point where you can have both of those worlds on one device. you can do full desktop linux on most android tablets but the experience is usually quite bad.
That being said this tablet will provide an impressively robust computing experience thanks to multi-window and the s-pen but it's no replacement for a laptop for some work.
as far as remote clients go Spashtop is the best performing one I've found it can even handle games and video playback somewhat smoothly
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.splashtop.remote phone version
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.splashtop.remote.pad Tablet version
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.splashtop.remote.pad.v2 "New" version (best experince and free but requires subscription for internet discovery)
EDIT:
So the morning after I write this post Samsung is making me eat my words.
They just announced the Ativ Q which dual boots windows 8 and android.
I do not know the specs or anything yet but I'm sure those will be available soon.
Robodude288 said:
EDIT:
So the morning after I write this post Samsung is making me eat my words.
They just announced the Ativ Q which dual boots windows 8 and android.
I do not know the specs or anything yet but I'm sure those will be available soon.
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some details here:
http://www.theverge.com/2013/6/20/4448998/samsung-ativ-q-windows-laptop-android-tablet
http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/20/samsung-announces-ativ-q-windows-android-slider/
It's called the ATIV Q, and it combines Android 4.2 and Windows 8, with equal parts tablet and typing. Under the hood, the device is powered by a Haswell-series Intel Core i5 processor and manages to fit a 13.3-inch, 3,200 x 1,800 touchscreen into a 1.29kg package that measures just 13.9mm thick. Other notable specs include an S Pen with 1,024 degrees of sensitivity.
Very Nice. Now if they can keep it under $700.00 I might bite.
kable said:
Very Nice. Now if they can keep it under $700.00 I might bite.
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I was thinking the same thing and I don't even need it.
Robodude288 said:
I was thinking the same thing and I don't even need it.
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kable said:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/20/samsung-announces-ativ-q-windows-android-slider/
It's called the ATIV Q, and it combines Android 4.2 and Windows 8, with equal parts tablet and typing. Under the hood, the device is powered by a Haswell-series Intel Core i5 processor and manages to fit a 13.3-inch, 3,200 x 1,800 touchscreen into a 1.29kg package that measures just 13.9mm thick. Other notable specs include an S Pen with 1,024 degrees of sensitivity.
Very Nice. Now if they can keep it under $700.00 I might bite.
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try $1500
fredfb said:
try $1500
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Oh probably. But we can dream can't we?
fredfb said:
try $1500
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With an i5 chip let's hope not, an i7 2.0 Ghz Ultrabook runs 1500.
Under 1K or it won't sell. Way under.
i know this sounds ridiculous i was wondering if even remotely possible with the finest engineers and a lot of cash how much would it cost me to upgrade the processor, RAM and internal memory of the xperia play?
now before you shoot this idea down i have been reading that theres some people out there with rework machines soldering and upgrading phone chips
Here's a example
now i know it sounds impossible but if this is possible i would pump out some SERIOUS cash to get this done. im sure some freelance engineer might know how.:fingers-crossed:
Impossible.
SoC....
System On Chip...
CPU, memory and graphic are actually one single chip. On xperia Play, it's Snapdragon MSM8255. It have Scorpion single-core CPU, Dual-channel 333 MHz LPDDR2 and Andreno 205 graphic. But it's still a single chip.
Mobile smartphone are NOT PC. they don't have separated CPU, memory and graphic. their's hardware are predesigned to match sertain SoC (only internal storage can vary between same SoC).
Maybe (and i repeat, maybe), theoreticly, internal storage can be expanded in a way of your idea...
Perhaps there's need to find another phone also with 1 integrated chip in the same matter but of higher specs
R800z
xdarkmario said:
Perhaps there's need to find another phone also with 1 integrated chip in the same matter but of higher specs
R800z
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I secretly wish they would make a full hd xperia play with a snapdragon 601 or maybe even better, a Tegra chip, top that off with 2gb ram and 16 gb internal memory and you really got a great gaming device.
maybe enough posting such useless hope posts?
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whatever, if you find device with same soc and more ram it may be possible. swapping nand or soc require new parts, that are pin-to-pin compatible, dont think that such exist through.
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I secretly wish they would make a full hd xperia play with a snapdragon 601 or maybe even better, a Tegra chip, top that off with 2gb ram and 16 gb internal memory and you really got a great gaming device.
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It's called an Nvidia Shield.
Nuck-TH said:
maybe enough posting such useless hope posts?
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Not useless post just making conversation and thoughts I mean if I seen another phone do it I'm curious to try it
Because unfortunately Sony's not one to listen to their users so all we can do is dream hope and modify
Nukkus said:
It's called an Nvidia Shield.
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Lol
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Nukkus said:
It's called an Nvidia Shield.
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I'm aware of the nvidia shield, thank you
It's too bulky though.
shaggydiamond said:
I'm aware of the nvidia shield, thank you
It's too bulky though.
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yea i wanted the nvidia shield but its entirely too huge 0__0 its more of a home console and for a android powered home console i would just get the ouya.
shaggydiamond said:
I'm aware of the nvidia shield, thank you
It's too bulky though.
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So would be your dream device that you described.
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So would be your dream device that you described.
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don't get smart with me, kid.
I never specified any screen size or general size.
If the shield would have a design like the xplay, i'd get it
shaggydiamond said:
don't get smart with me, kid.
I never specified any screen size or general size.
If the shield would have a design like the xplay, i'd get it
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Dude, do you know anything about design engineering? The hardware you posted needs significant size, the shield isn't bulky for the hell of it, it needs proper cooling and ventilation. And don't call me kid, i'm probably 20 years older than you at least.
These threads are ridiculous. Think or use google next time.
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These threads are ridiculous. Think or use google next time.
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That pretty much sums things up.
You would probably be better off modding a newer phones housing to fit a game pad and program the software for it
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You would probably be better off modding a newer phones housing to fit a game pad and program the software for it
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you know i was also thinking that, find a way to make the bottom half of the xperia play attachable on other phones and connect via bluetooth
but the idea of a boosted xperia play had more imagination lol
just killing time untill KitKat is mainstream on xperia play, im still dreaming...
Well your gunna need a lot of soldering skills and software development skills to mod a new chip in....remember that guy a long time ago that tried to solder a HDMI to his phone but he failed.....and to think that that was just HDMI not a whole new SoC
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Well your gunna need a lot of soldering skills and software development skills to mod a new chip in....remember that guy a long time ago that tried to solder a HDMI to his phone but he failed.....and to think that that was just HDMI not a whole new SoC
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The hardware was there if it was mounted correctly defiantly.
It just needed a good software implementation, something probably hard to do not to mention that'd there probably need to be big backend stuff done in the kernel e.t.c.
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That's why I would pay a phone engineer to do it. Or a ex Sony employee lol
Well upgrading xperia play should be theoretically possible. If the pinout of the more powerfull version of soc would match the pinout of the current soc it probably should work. However the only faster soc which pinout probably match with the current soc is MSM8255T but it is only 500 MHz overclocked version of the current chip. So performance gain would be marginal :/
hey guys,
title says it all. which apk version to use with the phone?
thanks!
xflowy said:
hey guys,
title says it all. which apk version to use with the phone?
thanks!
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arm64-v8a
xflowy said:
hey guys,
title says it all. which apk version to use with the phone?
thanks!
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Most phones nowadays are ARM v8 (and generally 64-bit at that). Very few use x86 SoCs. But if you're ever unsure, use something like CPUID from the Play Store to check the CPU architecture.
xflowy said:
hey guys,
title says it all. which apk version to use with the phone?
thanks!
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Much like the majority of Android devices out there, especially newer ones, the 7T uses a 64 bit ARM processor. As such, you want to go for packages marked ARM V8.
portable or SoC always means arm, unless its really really expensive and you know what u bought. SAS isnt sata as an example lol