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Did anybody think about that WP7 phones may be on x86 processors? (atom, etc)
if my phone supported x86 i would definately not install wp7 in my phone.
hyellow said:
if my phone supported x86 i would definately not install wp7 in my phone.
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yeah, same here, linux would be the way to go
aeroflyluby said:
Did anybody think about that WP7 phones may be on x86 processors? (atom, etc)
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Unlikely, maybe on a netbook or tablet, but not on a smartphone. ARM cores are leaps and bounds ahead in terms of bang for your watt.
Most likely Microsoft released the WP7 emulator on x86 because it runs faster ;P
Most likely not.
They probably released it this way to limit the possible use of the ROM.
landslide said:
Most likely Microsoft released the WP7 emulator on x86 because it runs faster ;P
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Because it's hardware accelerated to give you the speed you would have on a real phone.
aeroflyluby said:
Did anybody think about that WP7 phones may be on x86 processors? (atom, etc)
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Considering that the minimum requirements for a WP7S phone say that a device must have an ARM Cortex A8 processor, a Scorpion CPU, or better (http://www.techautos.com/2010/03/17/windows-phone-7-series-hardware-requirements/), we're pretty sure WP7S isn't for x86.
It's based on CE 6R3 so in theory yes, but you will have to port the drivers and other system files that are cortex specific.
I heard intel is making x86 mobile processors. Maybe there will be version for those.
matejdro said:
I heard intel is making x86 mobile processors. Maybe there will be version for those.
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What would be the advantage of porting WP7 to those?
windows 7 on the phone
hyellow said:
if my phone supported x86 i would definately not install wp7 in my phone.
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You can order already a phone with windows xp and the Intel x86-Moorestown Prozessor will be used by LG this Year for its phone so maybe for the advanced User Windows 7 with all its Software will be avaiable soon on the Phone .
Running windows 7 phone OS on a atom based tablet ( viliv etc) would be great. I think full windows 7 is not very user friendly because of the tiny menus etc.
docspangenberg said:
You can order already a phone with windows xp
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Do you mean the rumoured XP Phone? Its not out yet so I consider it vaporware till then
docspangenberg said:
Intel x86-Moorestown Prozessor will be used by LG this Year for its phone so maybe for the advanced User Windows 7 with all its Software will be avaiable soon on the Phone .
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True but unfortunately I heard there is something to do with bios which means that this will not be possible Would love to be wrong
http://lifehacker.com/5504465/how-to-transform-your-windows-desktop-with-an-amazing-windows-phone-7+style-hud
matejdro said:
I heard intel is making x86 mobile processors. Maybe there will be version for those.
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Those are used in notebook computers. They have nothing to do with cell phones.
imperiallight said:
Do you mean the rumoured XP Phone? Its not out yet so I consider it vaporware till then
True but unfortunately I heard there is something to do with bios which means that this will not be possible Would love to be wrong
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sign me up to buy the xp phone.
Is that possible for the note 8. I like the size but need to be able to have windows accessible for certain things? Thanks in advance to any help with this.
shadowkid8391 said:
Is that possible for the note 8. I like the size but need to be able to have windows accessible for certain things? Thanks in advance to any help with this.
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Don't think so, but you could try remote desktop, e.g. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tux.client. It works.
Yea i can do that now just don't want it to be sluggish. Any tips on a tablet that can dual boot windows and android?
shadowkid8391 said:
Yea i can do that now just don't want it to be sluggish. Any tips on a tablet that can dual boot windows and android?
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What sort of things do you need windows for that you don't think you can do on a tablet.
In answer to your question an x86 based windows tablet (excluding the surface pro) should theoretically be able to run the x86 port of android but it's not going to be the sort of experience you are thinking of.
If you want windows buy a laptop.
If you want android buy a tablet.
we are simply not to the point where you can have both of those worlds on one device. you can do full desktop linux on most android tablets but the experience is usually quite bad.
That being said this tablet will provide an impressively robust computing experience thanks to multi-window and the s-pen but it's no replacement for a laptop for some work.
as far as remote clients go Spashtop is the best performing one I've found it can even handle games and video playback somewhat smoothly
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.splashtop.remote phone version
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.splashtop.remote.pad Tablet version
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.splashtop.remote.pad.v2 "New" version (best experince and free but requires subscription for internet discovery)
EDIT:
So the morning after I write this post Samsung is making me eat my words.
They just announced the Ativ Q which dual boots windows 8 and android.
I do not know the specs or anything yet but I'm sure those will be available soon.
Robodude288 said:
EDIT:
So the morning after I write this post Samsung is making me eat my words.
They just announced the Ativ Q which dual boots windows 8 and android.
I do not know the specs or anything yet but I'm sure those will be available soon.
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some details here:
http://www.theverge.com/2013/6/20/4448998/samsung-ativ-q-windows-laptop-android-tablet
http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/20/samsung-announces-ativ-q-windows-android-slider/
It's called the ATIV Q, and it combines Android 4.2 and Windows 8, with equal parts tablet and typing. Under the hood, the device is powered by a Haswell-series Intel Core i5 processor and manages to fit a 13.3-inch, 3,200 x 1,800 touchscreen into a 1.29kg package that measures just 13.9mm thick. Other notable specs include an S Pen with 1,024 degrees of sensitivity.
Very Nice. Now if they can keep it under $700.00 I might bite.
kable said:
Very Nice. Now if they can keep it under $700.00 I might bite.
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I was thinking the same thing and I don't even need it.
Robodude288 said:
I was thinking the same thing and I don't even need it.
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kable said:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/20/samsung-announces-ativ-q-windows-android-slider/
It's called the ATIV Q, and it combines Android 4.2 and Windows 8, with equal parts tablet and typing. Under the hood, the device is powered by a Haswell-series Intel Core i5 processor and manages to fit a 13.3-inch, 3,200 x 1,800 touchscreen into a 1.29kg package that measures just 13.9mm thick. Other notable specs include an S Pen with 1,024 degrees of sensitivity.
Very Nice. Now if they can keep it under $700.00 I might bite.
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try $1500
fredfb said:
try $1500
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Oh probably. But we can dream can't we?
fredfb said:
try $1500
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With an i5 chip let's hope not, an i7 2.0 Ghz Ultrabook runs 1500.
Under 1K or it won't sell. Way under.
Does anybody tried to flashed THIS on your device?
I did, but as of now still under observation.
I just want to share the experience and know there are truly change in performance, graphics and sound quality.
Btw, I'm on B119
Installing this requires rooting or things like that ? What does it mean to "flash the zip" ?
yup.
Can you post antutu scores and battery consumption etc?
90mrsandman said:
Can you post antutu scores and battery consumption etc?
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you mean this one?
image attached below
cz4r3n said:
you mean this one?
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Yes
So, any differences compare to your battery stats?
No changes in benchmark scores.. it just changed the transition speed to 0.5x so it feels faster. This is my first impressions.
ya i think too,so you flashed it too...I'll try not to use wifi to see if my battery life got even better
THX it's work. A little bit smoothly RR3.
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This only works on "real" Android devices, on our P6 u wouldn't see any difference. Okay may a little bit but doesn't weight
I don't understand why it would not work on p6 too?It is android device with miui right?
Its not a Real Android , P6 is a MTK Phone so its all just emulated
Traace said:
Its not a Real Android , P6 is a MTK Phone so its all just emulated
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What are you waffling about? The P6 doesn't have a MTK CPU, nor is it emulating android. Did you pick up a knock off device? I ask because they all mainly use the MTK processor aha.
The Ascend P6 has a HUAWEI Hisilicon K3V2E which is based on the Cortex A9 processor and is clocked at 1.5GHz.
Stickman89 said:
The Ascend P6 has a HUAWEI Hisilicon K3V2E which is based on the Cortex A9 processor and is clocked at 1.5GHz.
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P6 is running Android on QEMU. You can google it.
Stickman89 said:
What are you waffling about? The P6 doesn't have a MTK CPU, nor is it emulating android. Did you pick up a knock off device? I ask because they all mainly use the MTK processor aha.
The Ascend P6 has a HUAWEI Hisilicon K3V2E which is based on the Cortex A9 processor and is clocked at 1.5GHz.
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Sorry, but youre wrong. p6 is running an emulation. You can check your phones startup scripts to be sure.
Traace said:
Its not a Real Android , P6 is a MTK Phone so its all just emulated
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BluntP6 said:
Sorry, but youre wrong. p6 is running an emulation. You can check your phones startup scripts to be sure.
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Well I'll be damned, so it is using QEMU emulation. I'd like to apologize on my remark. Still interested to see information backing up your claim that the P6 is using a MTK processor since there is no-where on the Internet that has made this statement. I've only found sites stating "This is not a MTK device" against the Ascend P6. If it infact is then false advertisement springs to mind.
well , if P6 is running an emulation , is there any problems ?
I don't get it, why is the P6 no running Android directly? Whats the matter? And what are the main disadvantages of emulating the OS?
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I don't get it, why is the P6 no running Android directly? Whats the matter? And what are the main disadvantages of emulating the OS?
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1. Why does it emulate android?
A: Maybe Huawei wanted to save on development charges, they saved money by doing this.
2. Emulating uses much power, and as known, our 1,5ghz quad core processor is getting very low scores from benchmarks. This is mainly caused by emulation.
3. P6 Is the only phone emulating Android i know, so its completely new for developers. It makes it more difficult to port roms to this device. Maybe we would have CM already, if this device would run native android? Who knows...
i know this sounds ridiculous i was wondering if even remotely possible with the finest engineers and a lot of cash how much would it cost me to upgrade the processor, RAM and internal memory of the xperia play?
now before you shoot this idea down i have been reading that theres some people out there with rework machines soldering and upgrading phone chips
Here's a example
now i know it sounds impossible but if this is possible i would pump out some SERIOUS cash to get this done. im sure some freelance engineer might know how.:fingers-crossed:
Impossible.
SoC....
System On Chip...
CPU, memory and graphic are actually one single chip. On xperia Play, it's Snapdragon MSM8255. It have Scorpion single-core CPU, Dual-channel 333 MHz LPDDR2 and Andreno 205 graphic. But it's still a single chip.
Mobile smartphone are NOT PC. they don't have separated CPU, memory and graphic. their's hardware are predesigned to match sertain SoC (only internal storage can vary between same SoC).
Maybe (and i repeat, maybe), theoreticly, internal storage can be expanded in a way of your idea...
Perhaps there's need to find another phone also with 1 integrated chip in the same matter but of higher specs
R800z
xdarkmario said:
Perhaps there's need to find another phone also with 1 integrated chip in the same matter but of higher specs
R800z
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I secretly wish they would make a full hd xperia play with a snapdragon 601 or maybe even better, a Tegra chip, top that off with 2gb ram and 16 gb internal memory and you really got a great gaming device.
maybe enough posting such useless hope posts?
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whatever, if you find device with same soc and more ram it may be possible. swapping nand or soc require new parts, that are pin-to-pin compatible, dont think that such exist through.
shaggydiamond said:
I secretly wish they would make a full hd xperia play with a snapdragon 601 or maybe even better, a Tegra chip, top that off with 2gb ram and 16 gb internal memory and you really got a great gaming device.
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It's called an Nvidia Shield.
Nuck-TH said:
maybe enough posting such useless hope posts?
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Not useless post just making conversation and thoughts I mean if I seen another phone do it I'm curious to try it
Because unfortunately Sony's not one to listen to their users so all we can do is dream hope and modify
Nukkus said:
It's called an Nvidia Shield.
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Lol
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Nukkus said:
It's called an Nvidia Shield.
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I'm aware of the nvidia shield, thank you
It's too bulky though.
shaggydiamond said:
I'm aware of the nvidia shield, thank you
It's too bulky though.
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yea i wanted the nvidia shield but its entirely too huge 0__0 its more of a home console and for a android powered home console i would just get the ouya.
shaggydiamond said:
I'm aware of the nvidia shield, thank you
It's too bulky though.
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So would be your dream device that you described.
Nukkus said:
So would be your dream device that you described.
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don't get smart with me, kid.
I never specified any screen size or general size.
If the shield would have a design like the xplay, i'd get it
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don't get smart with me, kid.
I never specified any screen size or general size.
If the shield would have a design like the xplay, i'd get it
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Dude, do you know anything about design engineering? The hardware you posted needs significant size, the shield isn't bulky for the hell of it, it needs proper cooling and ventilation. And don't call me kid, i'm probably 20 years older than you at least.
These threads are ridiculous. Think or use google next time.
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korrectmethod said:
These threads are ridiculous. Think or use google next time.
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That pretty much sums things up.
You would probably be better off modding a newer phones housing to fit a game pad and program the software for it
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crazymonkey05 said:
You would probably be better off modding a newer phones housing to fit a game pad and program the software for it
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you know i was also thinking that, find a way to make the bottom half of the xperia play attachable on other phones and connect via bluetooth
but the idea of a boosted xperia play had more imagination lol
just killing time untill KitKat is mainstream on xperia play, im still dreaming...
Well your gunna need a lot of soldering skills and software development skills to mod a new chip in....remember that guy a long time ago that tried to solder a HDMI to his phone but he failed.....and to think that that was just HDMI not a whole new SoC
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crazymonkey05 said:
Well your gunna need a lot of soldering skills and software development skills to mod a new chip in....remember that guy a long time ago that tried to solder a HDMI to his phone but he failed.....and to think that that was just HDMI not a whole new SoC
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The hardware was there if it was mounted correctly defiantly.
It just needed a good software implementation, something probably hard to do not to mention that'd there probably need to be big backend stuff done in the kernel e.t.c.
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That's why I would pay a phone engineer to do it. Or a ex Sony employee lol
Well upgrading xperia play should be theoretically possible. If the pinout of the more powerfull version of soc would match the pinout of the current soc it probably should work. However the only faster soc which pinout probably match with the current soc is MSM8255T but it is only 500 MHz overclocked version of the current chip. So performance gain would be marginal :/
So I finalled succeed rooting my A50 (SM-A505GT/DS) and I need something that allows me to play PES 2020 at high graphics and 60FPS, something that will make the game run smoother also. Any help?
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So I finalled succeed rooting my A50 (SM-A505GT/DS) and I need something that allows me to play PES 2020 at high graphics and 60FPS, something that will make the game run smoother also. Any help?
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Replace SoC with better one.
k3lcior said:
Replace SoC with better one.
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SoC?
jgbrltbncsk said:
SoC?
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Another way of saying the hardware isn't powerfull enough.
Easiest (and probably only reasonable) way of changing the SoC is getting another phone.?
NoCo33 said:
Another way of saying the hardware isn't powerfull enough.
Easiest (and probably only reasonable) way of changing the SoC is getting another phone.
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Oh, I see. Well, nevermind, already lost root access and Magisk.