Did anybody think about that WP7 phones may be on x86 processors? (atom, etc)
if my phone supported x86 i would definately not install wp7 in my phone.
hyellow said:
if my phone supported x86 i would definately not install wp7 in my phone.
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yeah, same here, linux would be the way to go
aeroflyluby said:
Did anybody think about that WP7 phones may be on x86 processors? (atom, etc)
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Unlikely, maybe on a netbook or tablet, but not on a smartphone. ARM cores are leaps and bounds ahead in terms of bang for your watt.
Most likely Microsoft released the WP7 emulator on x86 because it runs faster ;P
Most likely not.
They probably released it this way to limit the possible use of the ROM.
landslide said:
Most likely Microsoft released the WP7 emulator on x86 because it runs faster ;P
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Because it's hardware accelerated to give you the speed you would have on a real phone.
aeroflyluby said:
Did anybody think about that WP7 phones may be on x86 processors? (atom, etc)
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Considering that the minimum requirements for a WP7S phone say that a device must have an ARM Cortex A8 processor, a Scorpion CPU, or better (http://www.techautos.com/2010/03/17/windows-phone-7-series-hardware-requirements/), we're pretty sure WP7S isn't for x86.
It's based on CE 6R3 so in theory yes, but you will have to port the drivers and other system files that are cortex specific.
I heard intel is making x86 mobile processors. Maybe there will be version for those.
matejdro said:
I heard intel is making x86 mobile processors. Maybe there will be version for those.
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What would be the advantage of porting WP7 to those?
windows 7 on the phone
hyellow said:
if my phone supported x86 i would definately not install wp7 in my phone.
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You can order already a phone with windows xp and the Intel x86-Moorestown Prozessor will be used by LG this Year for its phone so maybe for the advanced User Windows 7 with all its Software will be avaiable soon on the Phone .
Running windows 7 phone OS on a atom based tablet ( viliv etc) would be great. I think full windows 7 is not very user friendly because of the tiny menus etc.
docspangenberg said:
You can order already a phone with windows xp
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Do you mean the rumoured XP Phone? Its not out yet so I consider it vaporware till then
docspangenberg said:
Intel x86-Moorestown Prozessor will be used by LG this Year for its phone so maybe for the advanced User Windows 7 with all its Software will be avaiable soon on the Phone .
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True but unfortunately I heard there is something to do with bios which means that this will not be possible Would love to be wrong
http://lifehacker.com/5504465/how-to-transform-your-windows-desktop-with-an-amazing-windows-phone-7+style-hud
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I heard intel is making x86 mobile processors. Maybe there will be version for those.
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Those are used in notebook computers. They have nothing to do with cell phones.
imperiallight said:
Do you mean the rumoured XP Phone? Its not out yet so I consider it vaporware till then
True but unfortunately I heard there is something to do with bios which means that this will not be possible Would love to be wrong
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sign me up to buy the xp phone.
Related
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=647138
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=647138
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did you read that thread? not windows mobile 7!, that's an x86 Windows 7 meant to run on the pc!
you're gonna need at least a phone with the snapdragon processor that runs on 1ghz of speed to even get it running first as an emulator.
roloracer said:
did you read that thread? not windows mobile 7!, that's an x86 Windows 7 meant to run on the pc!
you're gonna need at least a phone with the snapdragon processor that runs on 1ghz of speed to even get it running first as an emulator.
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Oops!....... i misunderstand.
I was just curious to know this from a long time.
Will there ever be a Lite Windows Phone 7 ROM for phones that are lesser than 1GB processor.
If so, what are some of the things we might have to sacrifice??
Just a question and a no offence to any1...
Thanx...healthy arguments are welcome...
Your beloved X1 or any other non-snapdragon phone doesn't meet requirements, the processor simply isn't capable of running it on instruction level, it requires ARMv7 processor, while all other <Snapdragon are ARMv6 only capable (WM requires ARMv4i).
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Your beloved X1 or any other non-snapdragon phone doesn't meet requirements, the processor simply isn't capable of running it on instruction level, it requires ARMv7 processor, while all other <Snapdragon are ARMv6 only capable (WM requires ARMv4i).
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Thanx al ot for ur reply..I got it...no WinPhone 7 for me....
BUt how about a Lite ROM???
Minus a few things mayb....its the famous game of 'wait and watch'
WP7 IS Lite, the only thing you could remove is all 3D animations and such, which probably would require deep changes in the core which also probably would break compatibility with all WP7 Apps. You would also need to recompile the OS for versions lower than ARMv7, which would require the source code, which only Microsoft have. Microsoft know exactly what they are doing so they wont open support for old crap devices. There is a reason that they broke backwards capability.
TL;DR: Get a new phone instead, there will never be a "lite" ROM of this.
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WP7 IS Lite, the only thing you could remove is all 3D animations and such, which probably would require deep changes in the core which also probably would break compatibility with all WP7 Apps. You would also need to recompile the OS for versions lower than ARMv7, which would require the source code, which only Microsoft have. Microsoft know exactly what they are doing so they wont open support for old crap devices. There is a reason that they broke backwards capability.
TL;DR: Get a new phone instead, there will never be a "lite" ROM of this.
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Sigh...
Sad but true. Thanx anyways...its a lil bit like IE9 not being compatible with XP....
Such a ROM would be instantly banned from XBox Live, etc. when you try to connect. Microsoft already has the infrastructure in place to do it. I would be a dumb phone with a cute UI, basically.
Same goes for WP7 ROMs ported to other devices.
circleofomega said:
i was just curious to know this from a long time.
Will there ever be a lite windows phone 7 rom for phones that are lesser than 1gb processor.
If so, what are some of the things we might have to sacrifice??
Just a question and a no offence to any1...
Thanx...healthy arguments are welcome...
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ha ha ha ha no never ever ever !!!!! Supporting devices slower than 1ghz was why windows mobile was introuble in the first place they allowed their os on crappy devices!!!!! Now windows phone 7 will never be on crap phones with these new restrictions and i agree with the minimum requirements 100% go microsoft for killing low-end crap windows mobile crashboxes
Also there is no need for Microsoft to develop a Windows Phone 7 Lite for new entry-level handsets. At the moment Windows Phone 7 is used only in high-end handsets, because of the strict hardware-requirements. But with time, this hardware will become cheaper and therefore Windows Phone 7 will be available in entry-level handsets. I guess you can get a WP7 device for 200€ instead of the current 500€ in two year.
What does 'entry level handset' mean?
circleofomega said:
What does 'entry level handset' mean?
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A phone that is cheap to buy, unlike the current phones (200 with 2 year contract)
desolateone1 said:
A phone that is cheap to buy, unlike the current phones (200 with 2 year contract)
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getting my hd7 for 100 with corporate discount. Is that entry level enough?!?
Well Folks
What say
http://www.unwiredview.com/2010/04/...e-launched-in-india-other-developing-markets/
http://www.tech-exclusive.com/microsoft-to-launch-cheap-windows-phone-7-in-india/
Considering the CPU architecture (Tecra 3) would it be possible to get a port of Windows 8 running on it?
c_marius said:
Considering the CPU architecture (Tecra 3) would it be possible to get a port of Windows 8 running on it?
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I guess it would technically be possible to run Windows 8 (ARM) on it.
Assuming you mean Windows 8 OS and not Windows phone 8, It would be very unlikely as there are too many factors as to why this would not work. For starters the windows 8 kernel would need to be heavily modified in order to work on the HOX architecture, also which windows os relays on stock driver support in order for it to function so someone would also need to write drivers for the hardware support too.
It would be more likely possible to port Windows phone 8 since it is designed for phones in mind from the get go. Windows phone 8 is a heavily modified version of the windows 8 OS.
c_marius said:
Considering the CPU architecture (Tecra 3) would it be possible to get a port of Windows 8 running on it?
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Short answer No. Unlike Android Microsoft is not open source also you won't get source codes or Kernel sources etc. for the Devs to build one.
Well... although it's highly unlikely if Windows 8 is released and Tegra 3 is still the flagship CPU from NVIDIA the possibility of a port may increase slightly (Only if a Tegra 3 powered Win8 tablet is produced)
May be chances are higher side.
ShyamSasi said:
Short answer No. Unlike Android Microsoft is not open source also you won't get source codes or Kernel sources etc. for the Devs to build one.
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And probably illegal?
Guys, both Windows Mobile 8 and Windows RT (8) will be available for ARM processors, it's more a case of porting drivers than modifying the kernel. Of course we would need to develop a new bootloader to feed Windows 8 (mobile or not) device information the way it wants it.
Rekoil said:
Guys, both Windows Mobile 8 and Windows RT (8) will be available for ARM processors, it's more a case of porting drivers than modifying the kernel. Of course we would need to develop a new bootloader to feed Windows 8 (mobile or not) device information the way it wants it.
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Which would require s-off?
Sent from my HTC One X.
This is android. We have freewill, free to modify, change and improve but we do not steal.
treebill said:
Which would require s-off?
Sent from my HTC One X.
This is android. We have freewill, free to modify, change and improve but we do not steal.
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S-OFF would no doubt help make the solution more elegant, but it is certainly not necessary.
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S-OFF would no doubt help make the solution more elegant, but it is certainly not necessary.
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That is good to hear well either way you would need to have a windows 8 serial and that means buying it, these forums don't support that sort of stuff.
Sent from HTC One X.
This is android. We free to modify, change and improve but we do not steal.
Is that possible for the note 8. I like the size but need to be able to have windows accessible for certain things? Thanks in advance to any help with this.
shadowkid8391 said:
Is that possible for the note 8. I like the size but need to be able to have windows accessible for certain things? Thanks in advance to any help with this.
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Don't think so, but you could try remote desktop, e.g. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tux.client. It works.
Yea i can do that now just don't want it to be sluggish. Any tips on a tablet that can dual boot windows and android?
shadowkid8391 said:
Yea i can do that now just don't want it to be sluggish. Any tips on a tablet that can dual boot windows and android?
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What sort of things do you need windows for that you don't think you can do on a tablet.
In answer to your question an x86 based windows tablet (excluding the surface pro) should theoretically be able to run the x86 port of android but it's not going to be the sort of experience you are thinking of.
If you want windows buy a laptop.
If you want android buy a tablet.
we are simply not to the point where you can have both of those worlds on one device. you can do full desktop linux on most android tablets but the experience is usually quite bad.
That being said this tablet will provide an impressively robust computing experience thanks to multi-window and the s-pen but it's no replacement for a laptop for some work.
as far as remote clients go Spashtop is the best performing one I've found it can even handle games and video playback somewhat smoothly
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.splashtop.remote phone version
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.splashtop.remote.pad Tablet version
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.splashtop.remote.pad.v2 "New" version (best experince and free but requires subscription for internet discovery)
EDIT:
So the morning after I write this post Samsung is making me eat my words.
They just announced the Ativ Q which dual boots windows 8 and android.
I do not know the specs or anything yet but I'm sure those will be available soon.
Robodude288 said:
EDIT:
So the morning after I write this post Samsung is making me eat my words.
They just announced the Ativ Q which dual boots windows 8 and android.
I do not know the specs or anything yet but I'm sure those will be available soon.
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some details here:
http://www.theverge.com/2013/6/20/4448998/samsung-ativ-q-windows-laptop-android-tablet
http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/20/samsung-announces-ativ-q-windows-android-slider/
It's called the ATIV Q, and it combines Android 4.2 and Windows 8, with equal parts tablet and typing. Under the hood, the device is powered by a Haswell-series Intel Core i5 processor and manages to fit a 13.3-inch, 3,200 x 1,800 touchscreen into a 1.29kg package that measures just 13.9mm thick. Other notable specs include an S Pen with 1,024 degrees of sensitivity.
Very Nice. Now if they can keep it under $700.00 I might bite.
kable said:
Very Nice. Now if they can keep it under $700.00 I might bite.
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I was thinking the same thing and I don't even need it.
Robodude288 said:
I was thinking the same thing and I don't even need it.
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kable said:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/20/samsung-announces-ativ-q-windows-android-slider/
It's called the ATIV Q, and it combines Android 4.2 and Windows 8, with equal parts tablet and typing. Under the hood, the device is powered by a Haswell-series Intel Core i5 processor and manages to fit a 13.3-inch, 3,200 x 1,800 touchscreen into a 1.29kg package that measures just 13.9mm thick. Other notable specs include an S Pen with 1,024 degrees of sensitivity.
Very Nice. Now if they can keep it under $700.00 I might bite.
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try $1500
fredfb said:
try $1500
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Oh probably. But we can dream can't we?
fredfb said:
try $1500
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With an i5 chip let's hope not, an i7 2.0 Ghz Ultrabook runs 1500.
Under 1K or it won't sell. Way under.
Microsoft anounced that windows 10 will support tablets including android tablets have it from an pcwelt video german
comlete feature list windows 10
http://www.pcwelt.de/ratgeber/Windo...Windows-10-Funktionen-Windows-10-9602942.html
you think it woud be posebile to install it in the tab s
dual boot woud be the best 1 android and 1 windows
As of right now not possible, but never say never!
No. Microsoft has ceased all development on the ARM version of windows, aka Windows RT. The new Windows 10 will only run on x86 hardware, which means you will need an android tablet with a Intel processor to install Windows 10. The Galaxy Tab S uses an ARM processor, hence it is not compatible.
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No. Microsoft has ceased all development on the ARM version of windows, aka Windows RT. The new Windows 10 will only run on x86 hardware, which means you will need an android tablet with a Intel processor to install Windows 10. The Galaxy Tab S uses an ARM processor, hence it is not compatible.
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This is not correct I am afraid. They made windows 10 running on Xiaomi MI4. The phone has Snapdragon 801 ARM proc. See the link below..
http://www.loadthegame.com/2015/03/26/xiaomi-mi4-running-windows-phone-spotted-in-the-wild/
shadow78 said:
This is not correct I am afraid. They made windows 10 running on Xiaomi MI4. The phone has Snapdragon 801 ARM proc. See the link below..
http://www.loadthegame.com/2015/03/26/xiaomi-mi4-running-windows-phone-spotted-in-the-wild/
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That's Windows Phone, which is different from Windows 10. I haven't heard anything about Microsoft merging Windows 10 and Windows Phone.
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That's Windows Phone, which is different from Windows 10. I haven't heard anything about Microsoft merging Windows 10 and Windows Phone.
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Wow are you retarded? (No offense ) Windows 10 is the same across all platforms and no that is not Windows Phone on Mi4 it is Windows 10 running on it. Windows 10 is also coming to Raspberry Pi 2 which is running an ARM Processor too. Microsoft want's to make a Windows 10 ROM to get more people on it. So yes it is possible to be running on the Tab S but I'm unsure about Samsung's Exynos.
shadow78 said:
This is not correct I am afraid. They made windows 10 running on Xiaomi MI4. The phone has Snapdragon 801 ARM proc. See the link below..
http://www.loadthegame.com/2015/03/26/xiaomi-mi4-running-windows-phone-spotted-in-the-wild/
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feature which will most likely expand to all Android smartphones in the future
in the same aticle never say never
i hope we can don an dual boot with this woud be awesome 1 android 1 windows swith store
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Wow are you retarded? (No offense ) Windows 10 is the same across all platforms and no that is not Windows Phone on Mi4 it is Windows 10 running on it. Windows 10 is also coming to Raspberry Pi 2 which is running an ARM Processor too. Microsoft want's to make a Windows 10 ROM to get more people on it. So yes it is possible to be running on the Tab S but I'm unsure about Samsung's Exynos.
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According to PC msg we are both retards.
http://asia.pcmag.com/microsoft-sur...indows-rt-is-dead-but-microsoft-hasnt-learned
According to the article there are two versions of Windows 10. The first one is the normal desktop Windows, which is direct successor of the (/sarcasm) beloved Windows 8 (/endsarcasm). The second version is a mobile version that runs on both x86 and ARM, but presumably has a smaller footprint and optimised for touch screen control. In order words, it is Windows Phone in all but name.
Running x86 software on ARM isn't impossible, but incredible costly. The ARM processor would have to emulate the x86 hardware, and all hardware emulations are expensive (in terms of processing power and not money). Anyone who had ever used the android emulator that comes with the android development kit knows how painfully slow it is even on a i7 CPU. Trying to run a legacy Windows x86 software on a weaker ARM processor would be insane.
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According to PC msg we are both retards.
http://asia.pcmag.com/microsoft-sur...indows-rt-is-dead-but-microsoft-hasnt-learned
According to the article there are two versions of Windows 10. The first one is the normal desktop Windows, which is direct successor of the (/sarcasm) beloved Windows 8 (/endsarcasm). The second version is a mobile version that runs on both x86 and ARM, but presumably has a smaller footprint and optimised for touch screen control. In order words, it is Windows Phone in all but name.
Running x86 software on ARM isn't impossible, but incredible costly. The ARM processor would have to emulate the x86 hardware, and all hardware emulations are expensive (in terms of processing power and not money). Anyone who had ever used the android emulator that comes with the android development kit knows how painfully slow it is even on a i7 CPU. Trying to run a legacy Windows x86 software on a weaker ARM processor would be insane.
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To be honest we can't say anything until Microsoft releases Windows 10 later this year!
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To be honest we can't say anything until Microsoft releases Windows 10 later this year!
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jes but i still hope it will work woud be great
Windows 10 on Tab s 10.5
Kahun said:
Wow are you retarded? (No offense ) Windows 10 is the same across all platforms and no that is not Windows Phone on Mi4 it is Windows 10 running on it. Windows 10 is also coming to Raspberry Pi 2 which is running an ARM Processor too. Microsoft want's to make a Windows 10 ROM to get more people on it. So yes it is possible to be running on the Tab S but I'm unsure about Samsung's Exynos.
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Where Where Where can I find a tutorial on installing windows 10 on my Tab S? I really want to be able to install netbeans because my freakin laptop got stolen and all I can use is AIDE right now.
Please Help!!!
Completely different platforms, it's not a pc.
If it can eventually be emulated on an android tablet I doubt it will be much use.
TacoMeatDaGod said:
Where Where Where can I find a tutorial on installing windows 10 on my Tab S? I really want to be able to install netbeans because my freakin laptop got stolen and all I can use is AIDE right now.
Please Help!!!
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You won't get Windows 10 on it as theres no drivers
How come this guys can?
www indiegogo com/projects/magicstick-most-powerful-pc-stick-8gb-ram/x/12430960
How can i install windows 10 on samsung tab s?
TurboProgramming said:
How can i install windows 10 on samsung tab s?
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Guess you didn't read the entire thread...YOU CAN NOT INSTALL WIN 10 ON YOUR 10.5 Tab S
2 Biggest reasons why not:
You don't have the proper processor in the 10.5
You'll most likely never get any drivers for the hardware in it