Okay my question is:
Is it possible to go from an unrooted phone with the whole software stock to a custom ROM, while keeping your data (apps, appdata, settings, sms, etc.)? If yes, how?
I'm on software version HTC WWE Europe 3.12.405.1, and I stored all my apps and photos etc on my SD-card.
I already know that the easyest way to instal another bootloader (CWM) is the AAHK. I downloaded it. But it will perform a downgrade resulting in loss of data.
Also while flashing a ROM you must reset the phone.
What I don't understand is this: you don't need to reset the SD-card, but the new ROM won't recognise the apps on your SD-card, so do you need to delete all those files then?
I know that what I'm probably asking a very nooby question, but I really hope that somebody can help me out here.
Thanks in advance, koningjim!
koningjim said:
Okay my question is:
Is it possible to go from an unrooted phone with the whole software stock to a custom ROM, while keeping your data (apps, appdata, settings, sms, etc.)? If yes, how?
I'm on software version HTC WWE Europe 3.12.405.1, and I stored all my apps and photos etc on my SD-card.
I already know that the easyest way to instal another bootloader (CWM) is the AAHK. I downloaded it. But it will perform a downgrade resulting in loss of data.
Also while flashing a ROM you must reset the phone.
What I don't understand is this: you don't need to reset the SD-card, but the new ROM won't recognise the apps on your SD-card, so do you need to delete all those files then?
I know that what I'm probably asking a very nooby question, but I really hope that somebody can help me out here.
Thanks in advance, koningjim!
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Take a look at this thread. Someone else had similar questions recently.
If by apps on the sdcard you mean apps you backed up with GoBackup or MyBackup or something similar, you will need to reinstall that backup app from the Play Store and use that app to restore your apps from the sdcard. If you mean with apps2sd, they're usually saved in a folder in the sdcard called .android_secure, and I know that 4ext recovery (and maybe others) wipes that folder when a new ROM is flashed. If the recovery doesn't, I would guess that it's wise to wipe it yourself.
Thank you very much for your response! This answers some of my questions, but not all. I hope the rest will be answered too.
koningjim said:
Thank you very much for your response! This answers some of my questions, but not all. I hope the rest will be answered too.
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What else do you need to know?
What I don't understand is this: you don't need to reset the SD-card, but the new ROM won't recognise the apps on your SD-card, so do you need to delete all those files then?
koningjim said:
What I don't understand is this: you don't need to reset the SD-card, but the new ROM won't recognise the apps on your SD-card, so do you need to delete all those files then?
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I'm assuming you are taking about the option that Android gives you to move apps to sd. I don't expect you to know this yet, since you haven't rooted yet, but before installing any ROM, you should do a full wipe. On my recovery, which is 4ext (and which I highly recommend you use after AAHK installs CWM recovery), it automatically wipes .android_secure (where the apps2sd are saved) in the course of a full wipe. If you choose another recovery, and it does not do so, I would recommend that you delete it yourself.
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What I don't understand is this: you don't need to reset the SD-card, but the new ROM won't recognise the apps on your SD-card, so do you need to delete all those files then?
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Not quite sure what you are asking. If you are talking about just the apk file, there shouldn't be any problems. No need to format the sd card.
OOw, I think I get it now! The apps are stored in .android_secure and not in another place in the SD-card. I already backed up my contacts, smses etc. So I guess there's no way to keep your appdata? Because you need root for that and for root you need to downgrade, which resets the phone?
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OOw, I think I get it now! The apps are stored in .android_secure and not in another place in the SD-card. I already backed up my contacts, smses etc. So I guess there's no way to keep your appdata? Because you need root for that and for root you need to downgrade, which resets the phone?
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Just to clarify, the .android_secure folder is for apps moved to the sd using the Android OS's apps2sd capability. If you're referring to another method (like Titanium Backup or GoBackup or something), that's different. Those backup apps can back up your apps, but not app data, to the sdcard; you would then reinstall them using the same backup app once the new ROM is installed.
If you need to downgrade to root, I don't know of a method to keep your app data, since the downgrade would wipe the OS before you had the root capability necessary to back up app data. There might be one, but I don't know of one.
OK, nice! Now I'm rooted and downgraded. However, now I want to install 4ext Recovery. So I downloaded the 4extRecoveryUpdater.apk from their website. But my phone won't open and install it. When I click on it in downloads it just says "Can't open this file".
Please help?!!?!
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OK, nice! Now I'm rooted and downgraded. However, now I want to install 4ext Recovery. So I downloaded the 4extRecoveryUpdater.apk from their website. But my phone won't open and install it. When I click on it in downloads it just says "Can't open this file".
Please help?!!?!
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Make sure "install from unknown sources" is checked in Settings -> Security. Try opening it from another application, like a file manager.
Oh well.. this sucks! Just one day after I rooted and lost all my data, a new version of Titanium Backup comes out that can back-up app-data without root
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I need to do a total backup of my Desire, as I have the Android Market problem, and I have tried everyrthing and I mean everything trying to fix it without having to do a factory reset. So please dont give me tips on how to fix it.
What I do need information on is how I can totaly backup my desire, meaning
contacts
sms
google maps starred loactions
and all downloaded apps with their settign are backed up
I am aware that there are things on the Android market that I can download to backup different bits at a time, but I cant use Android Market app to download anything so I need to get apps that I can put on the desire from my pc.
Any ideas would be very helpful.
My desire is running Android 2.2 and has not been rooted or modded in any way.
-Root your Desire unsing unrevoked
-Install Titanium Backup
bubble said:
-Root your Desire unsing unrevoked
-Install Titanium Backup
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Titanium backup is not necessary - after rooting just use Nandroid backup from recovery.
Is there a way of backing up app data without rooting?
i.e. I want to be able to back up Angry Birds data so if I factory reset I can reinstall all my scores
Lothaen said:
Is there a way of backing up app data without rooting?
i.e. I want to be able to back up Angry Birds data so if I factory reset I can reinstall all my scores
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pretty sure the angry birds data is kept on the sd card?
Lothaen said:
Is there a way of backing up app data without rooting?
i.e. I want to be able to back up Angry Birds data so if I factory reset I can reinstall all my scores
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No. You will lose your scores.
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Ik Desire said:
No. You will lose your scores.
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yea, the APK is on the SD, but the data is on the phone - don't want to lose that after the hours I spent getting 3 stars on a lot of it... any suggestions?
pilgrim011 said:
Titanium backup is not necessary - after rooting just use Nandroid backup from recovery.
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Titanium Backup is a more flexible solution.
I don't see how backing up the whole nandroid and restoring it would fix anything, the phone would be in the exact same state.
Nothing that doesn't involve rooting to save data?
No way to do that. The data is simply saved in a partition that normal users can't access. So root is actually necessary in this case. Pretty easy and harmless, especially since you can unroot if you want to.
I thought so - I also assume to restore backups you'd need to be rooted too - silly - you'd think that some way to backup app data would be fairly common (to non-rooted bog standard users)...
sakai4eva said:
No way to do that. The data is simply saved in a partition that normal users can't access. So root is actually necessary in this case. Pretty easy and harmless, especially since you can unroot if you want to.
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Actually, I wouldnt call it exactly harmless. Depends on how you've gone about rooting it and what precautions you've taken.
If you're a newbie, ensure the following before you root:
Make a goldcard-Absolutely essential if you have an SLCD Desire, since RUUs are dificult to find for unrooting, if you're branded
Ensure that an RUU for your country is available, or a generic one which is sure to work.
Lothaen said:
I thought so - I also assume to restore backups you'd need to be rooted too - silly - you'd think that some way to backup app data would be fairly common (to non-rooted bog standard users)...
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There are apps to backup certain things like SMS and Application Installations (without data), which can work without being rooted. If you want the restoration to mimic the previous state of that app with data, then you need to access the system as root.
I backed up using Titanium backup after using unrevoked to root my device.
I now have a problem doing a OTA update from T-mobile/HTC (update 2.12.110.4)
It downloads then asks me to install to which I cay yes, it reboots and just sits at a screen. when I press the power button its shows the clockworkmod recovery v2.5.0.7
and says verfication signature failed and lets me reboot and doesnt install the update.
What is this?
digo21 said:
I backed up using Titanium backup after using unrevoked to root my device.
I now have a problem doing a OTA update from T-mobile/HTC (update 2.12.110.4)
It downloads then asks me to install to which I cay yes, it reboots and just sits at a screen. when I press the power button its shows the clockworkmod recovery v2.5.0.7
and says verfication signature failed and lets me reboot and doesnt install the update.
What is this?
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OTA updates dont (usually) work after rooting. In most Rooted ROMs they wont download. In some they do, and wont update. OTA are like RUUs. They try to upgrade the factory version of the software and should be used only on non-rooted Desires. Anyway I dont see why you need them. In case you're rooted, the latest version of your custom ROMs would be better than OTAs..
How would I go back to the standard rom - is it by doing a factory reset?
digo21 said:
How would I go back to the standard rom - is it by doing a factory reset?
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If you mean you want to take your phone back to what it was when you first got it..This is called reverting to Stock
If you have rooted since you got the phone, and have not put on a custom ROM like Cyanogen, Aurax or LeeDroid, your phone is now basically Rooted Stock..In this case, if you just want to remove all the custom apps and data, you can do a factory reset..This does not remove the rooting. The app Superuser Manager will still be in your phone menu, and Recovery ROM-Clockworkmod/Amon Ra will still be on the phone. In brief, the rooting process is apparent to service engineers.
If you have put on a custom ROM like Cyanogen, Aurax or LeeDroid after rooting, if you just want to get your phone to the HTC look, you can flash a Stock based ROM-Froyo or Non Froyo (Just search for "Stock rooted ROM"). This will get you the HTC sense interface.
But if your purpose is to take phone back for warranty purpose and don't want them to know you've rooted it, you need to flash an RUU over your current setup. This will remove rooting process and get it back to factory setup.
droidzone said:
If you mean you want to take your phone back to what it was when you first got it..This is called reverting to Stock
If you have rooted since you got the phone, and have not put on a custom ROM like Cyanogen, Aurax or LeeDroid, your phone is now basically Rooted Stock..In this case, if you just want to remove all the custom apps and data, you can do a factory reset..This does not remove the rooting. The app Superuser Manager will still be in your phone menu, and Recovery ROM-Clockworkmod/Amon Ra will still be on the phone. In brief, the rooting process is apparent to service engineers.
If you have put on a custom ROM like Cyanogen, Aurax or LeeDroid after rooting, if you just want to get your phone to the HTC look, you can flash a Stock based ROM-Froyo or Non Froyo (Just search for "Stock rooted ROM"). This will get you the HTC sense interface.
But if your purpose is to take phone back for warranty purpose and don't want them to know you've rooted it, you need to flash an RUU over your current setup. This will remove rooting process and get it back to factory setup.
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So doing a factory reset wont remove the clockworkmod from my phone then?
How would I go about doing a RUU as I dont really need my phone rooted generally, and really only needed it for the Titanium backup?
Speaking of Titanium backup once I do the RUU I'm guessing I wont be able to restore my titanium backup bits, as I wont have root access anymore?
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So doing a factory reset wont remove the clockworkmod from my phone then?
How would I go about doing a RUU as I dont really need my phone rooted generally, and really only needed it for the Titanium backup?
Speaking of Titanium backup once I do the RUU I'm guessing I wont be able to restore my titanium backup bits, as I wont have root access anymore?
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You just got your wish answered! Check out this thread. Apparently Titanium can be run in a Temporary Root mode, thus allowing us to restore items even after unrooting!
So doing a factory reset wont remove the clockworkmod from my phone then? No, it wont!
How would I go about doing a RUU as I dont really need my phone rooted generally, and really only needed it for the Titanium backup? How to Unroot If you want specific help on any step, you may ask freely. Just do a background readup by searching though, since there are a lot of guides here too.
i rooted my phone yesterday, and today ive been looking around at roms and everything but obviously i want to keep all my apps so i downloaded titanium backuo and it says i need the latest version of busy box, so i go to download that and install it but it says im not nand unlocked, 1. i have no idea what this is 2. how do i do it, and is it completely necessary or is there an easier way to backup my apps etc.
when you go into Titanium, there should be a button in the middle at the bowwom "Problems?". click that and it should ask if you want to install busybox. Let it install it.
just to clarify, when i flash a new rom and everything is reset is titanium still meant to be on the apps list or do i need to re-download it from the market and restore it?
if you move it to your SDcard, it should still be there. But if not, you can download it again and it should pick up your backups as these are on your SDcard.
Just re download titanium app.. run it and restore backup from it... it identifies backup made on sd card..
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thanks, really appreciate the help.
The nand protection is inplace because although your rooted, you still have a security locked bootloader, visit www.alpharev.nl for more info on how to s-off your device
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If I root my desire and flash a custom ROM will all the apps I have installed now
would be gone?
And if I bought an app, will I have to buy it again after rooting and a new ROM?
thanks
oh and im sorry if this is in the wrong section
For the first question, I think all your apps will be deleted just if you want. In doc kitchen, are two versions of rom, with wipe and no wipe, but the recomanded version is that which will wipe all your data. You can backup all your apps before that.
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You can just back up all the apps via Titanium backup from the market. It will also backup your user data.
So you should go:
1) root & install custom recovery (usually part of rooting process)
2) install Ti Backup and run a batch backup of all user apps and data
3) make sure all your contacts are google contacts! Then they will just be re-imported when you register your google account on your new rom
4) pick your rom and download its zip file - copy this to the root of your sd card.
5) boot into recovery and factory reset i.e. wipe everything
6) still in recovery, select "install from zip" and pick the zip file above
7) reboot and wait (can be slow the first time), then run a batch restore from Ti backup and you are done!
Thank you very much its very helpful.
Do paid apps stay as well?
Lemon002 said:
Thank you very much its very helpful.
Do paid apps stay as well?
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Yep they will all be backed up.
I forgot a step too - you should always do a nandroid backup (this is done in recovery) before wiping and flashing rom in case something screws up.
This way you can restore what you previously had through recovery.
Lemon002 said:
Do paid apps stay as well?
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When you paid an app on the Market, the info is attached to your Google account. So when you configure a new rom with your Google account, you see in the Market those apps are paid and you can download them again for free.
Hello all,
I'm sorry if my question was answered in this forum, but I wasn't able to find the answer to be 100% sure.
I used Rezo609's all in one utility, so I unlocked the bootloader, rooted the phone and when doing this, the software made a backup of my phone (it's saved on the SD card).
I use Android 2.3.5. and now I'd like to try Android 4.0 on my WFS.
My question is, when it will not work for me (or I don't like it), can I restore the phone from that backup? I mean my 2.3.5, my apps, contacts, emails etc?
Thank you so much, and again I'm sorry if it was posted somewhere here :angel:
Pribina said:
Hello all,
I'm sorry if my question was answered in this forum, but I wasn't able to find the answer to be 100% sure.
I used Rezo609's all in one utility, so I unlocked the bootloader, rooted the phone and when doing this, the software made a backup of my phone (it's saved on the SD card).
I use Android 2.3.5. and now I'd like to try Android 4.0 on my WFS.
My question is, when it will not work for me (or I don't like it), can I restore the phone from that backup? I mean my 2.3.5, my apps, contacts, emails etc?
Thank you so much, and again I'm sorry if it was posted somewhere here :angel:
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I don't know what backup it made coz i haven't used that utility ever.
But here's another way of being sure.
I suppose you have clockwork Recovery installed already, If you don't, download rom manager from market and do.
Boot into recovery.
>go to backup and restore and backup.
>It will take some time.
> Now in sd card, you'll see a folder named clockwork, save that folder somewhere in your pc cozz that is a lifesaver for you.
> Install whatever rom u want now.
> If you want to restore, just go to clockwork and restore.
Hope i helped.
Best way....... Download rom manager from the play store... Then select "Backup current rom" If backs up your rom.....
Thank you both guys!
The clockwork recovery is part of the utility so I have the backup done, that was the backup I was writing in my first post.
So right now I have to find the best 4.0 ROM
Pribina said:
Thank you both guys!
The clockwork recovery is part of the utility so I have the backup done, that was the backup I was writing in my first post.
So right now I have to find the best 4.0 ROM
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Cm9 Alpha 3.
sukhjit321 said:
Cm9 Alpha 3.
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will try today, thanks for the tip!
Hi
Please help i have lost all my apps
I am using Oxygen rom and app2ext i think
I took of my sdcard where i had all the apps and put another one just for a moment.when i inserted the original card where i had all the apps they were gone.can i do something to bring them back.i know that the apps are still on my card but not readable.
Thanks and please help quickly if you can.
I am tired of reinstalling roms and apps
Restore a working nand backups, if you have some.
nlooooo said:
Restore a working nand backups, if you have some.
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No nandroid backup nor titanium backup.
When i try to install same app when i had before it says that will replace the app...
I have checked the sd_ext folder and all the apps are there , so one way would be to install them one by one from there but i am seeking for better method.
What stands for the android_secure folder?
That's why you should make a nand backup from time to time.
Please post something useful if you know how to help. This is useless for me
What was said to you is actually useful for you... just not in your current situation. So the next time you mess with your phone do a nand.
What you can do is reflash the rom from the original sd card WITHOUT wiping. Just put the rom zip on the original sd card and flash. That should reinitiate and detect your sd ext.
Of course I haven't tried this but given your situation this might just work. If it doesn't then you should have made a nand prior like what was said before.
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What was said to you is actually useful for you... just not in your current situation. So the next time you mess with your phone do a nand.
What you can do is reflash the rom from the original sd card WITHOUT wiping. Just put the rom zip on the original sd card and flash. That should reinitiate and detect your sd ext.
Of course I haven't tried this but given your situation this might just work. If it doesn't then you should have made a nand prior like what was said before.
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Nobody wants to listen, they all just go mad.
Symlinks are broken, try to delete cache and dalvik from recovery, but I'm not sure if it will help.
The best solution is to start from scratch, it's only your fault that you don't have any backup.
THE GOLDEN RULE OF FLASHING - MAKE A NAND BACKUP PRIOR FLASHING AND PLAYING WITH YOUR PHONE!!!