swapped cards and now apps are gone - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi
Please help i have lost all my apps
I am using Oxygen rom and app2ext i think
I took of my sdcard where i had all the apps and put another one just for a moment.when i inserted the original card where i had all the apps they were gone.can i do something to bring them back.i know that the apps are still on my card but not readable.
Thanks and please help quickly if you can.
I am tired of reinstalling roms and apps

Restore a working nand backups, if you have some.

nlooooo said:
Restore a working nand backups, if you have some.
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No nandroid backup nor titanium backup.
When i try to install same app when i had before it says that will replace the app...
I have checked the sd_ext folder and all the apps are there , so one way would be to install them one by one from there but i am seeking for better method.
What stands for the android_secure folder?

That's why you should make a nand backup from time to time.

Please post something useful if you know how to help. This is useless for me

What was said to you is actually useful for you... just not in your current situation. So the next time you mess with your phone do a nand.
What you can do is reflash the rom from the original sd card WITHOUT wiping. Just put the rom zip on the original sd card and flash. That should reinitiate and detect your sd ext.
Of course I haven't tried this but given your situation this might just work. If it doesn't then you should have made a nand prior like what was said before.
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stankyou said:
What was said to you is actually useful for you... just not in your current situation. So the next time you mess with your phone do a nand.
What you can do is reflash the rom from the original sd card WITHOUT wiping. Just put the rom zip on the original sd card and flash. That should reinitiate and detect your sd ext.
Of course I haven't tried this but given your situation this might just work. If it doesn't then you should have made a nand prior like what was said before.
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Nobody wants to listen, they all just go mad.
Symlinks are broken, try to delete cache and dalvik from recovery, but I'm not sure if it will help.
The best solution is to start from scratch, it's only your fault that you don't have any backup.
THE GOLDEN RULE OF FLASHING - MAKE A NAND BACKUP PRIOR FLASHING AND PLAYING WITH YOUR PHONE!!!

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[Q] nandroid problem

always when i create a nandroid, after restoring it doesn't go further than the HTC logo screen which appears after starting, the 4th nandroid backup which didn't work:S
Recovery Amon -RA 2.0.0
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Is it because of my recovery?
TopGear63z said:
always when i create a nandroid, after restoring it doesn't go further than the HTC logo screen which appears after starting, the 4th nandroid backup which didn't work:S
Recovery Amon -RA 2.0.0
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Is it because of my recovery?
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Are you doing a full wipe ie factory reset, wipe cache, wipe battery stats before restoring?
stringer7 said:
Are you doing a full wipe ie factory reset, wipe cache, wipe battery stats before restoring?
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yes but the weird thing is my device gets usb bricked after every restore, i always perform full wipes before restoring
.. problem solved with usb brick nevermind
but still nandroid backups annoy me a lot
TopGear63z said:
yes but the weird thing is my device gets usb bricked after every restore, i always perform full wipes before restoring
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Strange... Is it worth downloading the latest version of your rom again and reflashing it?
Or could there be a problem with your recovery image, maybe its worth reflashing that also?
stringer7 said:
Strange... Is it worth downloading the latest version of your rom again and reflashing it?
Or could there be a problem with your recovery image, maybe its worth reflashing that also?
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Did both, still thanks for you help just never going to restore a nandroid again always resulting into usb brick
TopGear63z said:
Did both, still thanks for you help just never going to restore a nandroid again always resulting into usb brick
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No worries, hope someone can help, there must be a fix.
Last suggestion, new sd card?
TopGear63z said:
always when i create a nandroid, after restoring it doesn't go further than the HTC logo screen which appears after starting, the 4th nandroid backup which didn't work:S
Recovery Amon -RA 2.0.0
S-ON
Is it because of my recovery?
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Maybe you have an ext partition for your apps and/or data on your sd card which you do not backup?
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Not sure if this is relevant but I bricked my Desire when I did a Nandroid of a recent Starburst rom. I can't remember which version now unfortunately but it offered data2sd. It's my understanding that performing the Nandroid backup was a bad mistake as the rom had moved vital parts of the phone system to the SD card and the Nandroid backup ignored that as it doesn't see it as a vital part to backup.
A subsequent reboot after doing the Nandroid resulted in the phone booting so far, rebooting, booting less far, rebooting and ultimately, SD card not recognised. Many hours spent learning Fastboot stuff fixed that, then I had a USB brick. Yet more hours ensued and eventually I fixed that too.
I've backed up and even transferred my current rom (Insert Coin CM7) to another SD card tonight with no issues at all but this isn't using data2sd. The speed gains on d2sd were great but I'm wary of using such a thing again as I'm pretty certain that that is how mine died after a Nandroid backup.
Parva4 said:
Not sure if this is relevant but I bricked my Desire when I did a Nandroid of a recent Starburst rom. I can't remember which version now unfortunately but it offered data2sd. It's my understanding that performing the Nandroid backup was a bad mistake as the rom had moved vital parts of the phone system to the SD card and the Nandroid backup ignored that as it doesn't see it as a vital part to backup.
A subsequent reboot after doing the Nandroid resulted in the phone booting so far, rebooting, booting less far, rebooting and ultimately, SD card not recognised. Many hours spent learning Fastboot stuff fixed that, then I had a USB brick. Yet more hours ensued and eventually I fixed that too.
I've backed up and even transferred my current rom (Insert Coin CM7) to another SD card tonight with no issues at all but this isn't using data2sd. The speed gains on d2sd were great but I'm wary of using such a thing again as I'm pretty certain that that is how mine died after a Nandroid backup.
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I used data2sd but that didn't work at all, starburst was slow as hell, i have to say i moved a lot of things to sd, not ext not only in android.secure, that could be the problem, but if i don't do that i don't have enough space on my internal
Thanks,, i think that i now know what my problem is
MatDrOiD said:
Maybe you have an ext partition for your apps and/or data on your sd card which you do not backup?
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No that isn't it i always backup nand+ext

Nandroids not working... help?

Apologies for what is probably an often asked question, but the search seems to be down at the moment. I'm currently running Ras 2.3 and when I make a nandroid backup of my MIUI, it always runs into an error when trying to restore? I don't even know where to begin looking for solutions to the issue, is this a common thing? Should I just re-flash Ras or something?
Seems the backup was corrupted, reflash your recovery, then make a new one.
Yeah every backup I do seems to get corrupted. I'll try reflashing AmonRa.
thegregbradley said:
Yeah every backup I do seems to get corrupted. I'll try reflashing AmonRa.
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Let me know how it goes. Also make sure to have at least ~500mb available for a backup.
So I finally re-flashed AmonRa 2.3, and my nandroids STILL show an error! It gets like one dot into resotring and says "oops! an error occurred, check the logs" or something like that. What is happening
first thing would be to check your memory card to see if you have enough space like the post above says. if that doesn't work move the recovery.log via your recovery screen to the sd card and post it here. that should get some questions answered.
edit: also i had this happen to me a couple times when trying to restore it only happened when i changed big things like the radio or the hboot or switching from aosp to sense. that kinda stuff. you might just need to start over and flash a new rom. good thing you used titanium...right? p.s. just relized you were trying to restore not backup so the memory card issue shouldn't apply sry.
I have my MIUI backup so it's not so much of a big deal since that works, but I'd like to have a 100% working nandroid backup in the event that I wanna try out a new rom. Where to I find the recovery log so that I may post it up on here? Thanks for the help guys, I'd be lost without xda
So I just tried moving my recovery log to the SD card and I got the same message, "Oops... something went wrong! Please check the recovery log!"
WTF is going on here?
Potential causes and solutions:
Corrupt SD card. You're screwed, reformat SD card and flash the rom over again.
Corrupt Nandroid file. You're screwed, delete from SD card and flash the rom over again.
Corrupt Recover. Download Rom Manager and re-flash recovery (if you use clockwork, flash alternate then back to clockwork or vice versa if you use amon ra). If this doesn't work, it's likely one of the two above.
However, this is usually the problem when they mess up.
Is there a space in the name of the Nandroid backup? Nandroid backups can NOT EVER have a space in the title. Go into your favorite file manager and remove the space if it has one and it should work just fine.
For example:
MikFroyo 4.61 is NOT an acceptable name. There's a space between the o and the 4.
KonisEliteSeriesIII IS an acceptable name. Notice, there's no spaces.
Hit the thanks button if I helped. Toodles!
Don't use ROM Manager to reflash Amon Ra. Just use the PC36IMG
Trust me on this.
Is it possible that your original nandroids were with clockwork and now that you have updated to amon that they will not work?
Okay so I've re-flashed Amon Ra and reformatted my SD card and I STILL can't get the nandroids to work or my recovery log to move over to the SD card! I've only used Amon Ra for as long as I've been rooted, and nandroids previously worked. Also, these are nandroids that I made within the last 2 weeks or so, they're not old and I have not renamed them. Should I maybe try an older version of AmonRa or something?
OMG I figured it out! Here's the story:
So I bought a new SD card a few weeks back and put it in with just a straight copy of my old SD card in there. This included my nandroid folder. I had been making backups and deleting old backups, but the folder under sdcard/nandroid/HT089HL02240 simply needed to be deleted. I kept sdcard/nandroid, deleted HT089HL02240, then made a new nandroid so that the recovery could simply make this folder itself. Somehow this worked, I don't know why, but it seemed like it might help being that you can't restore nandroids between phones. Perhaps the recovery thought I was attempting to do this, given the SD card switch. Well it works now!

Backup problems with DInc 2 and CMR

I have s-off and am permanently rooted. I am able to flash and run such roms as CM7.1 and RMK Gingersense from the original .zip file without a problem. However I have been unable to restore a single backup made with ClockworkMod Recovery.
For example, once I flash Gingersense I am unable to restore a backup to CM7.1. If I flash CM7.1 I am unable to restore a backup to Gingersense. In fact, I can't even successfully restore a previous backup of the same rom. I have reloaded CMR several times.
Every time I try to restore a backup, when I reboot I freeze on the white HTC screen. I have tried wiping everything before restoring, but that doesn't help.
It's a pain not being able to play with new roms and variations without being able to painlessly restore from a backup.
Any ideas?
bsteenson said:
I have s-off and am permanently rooted. I am able to flash and run such roms as CM7.1 and RMK Gingersense from the original .zip file without a problem. However I have been unable to restore a single backup made with ClockworkMod Recovery.
For example, once I flash Gingersense I am unable to restore a backup to CM7.1. If I flash CM7.1 I am unable to restore a backup to Gingersense. In fact, I can't even successfully restore a previous backup of the same rom. I have reloaded CMR several times.
Every time I try to restore a backup, when I reboot I freeze on the white HTC screen. I have tried wiping everything before restoring, but that doesn't help.
It's a pain not being able to play with new roms and variations without being able to painlessly restore from a backup.
Any ideas?
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Here are a couple of thoughts.
1 - Is your SD Card full? I had been flashing ROMs and doing back ups a lot recently. As I flashed a ROM to give it a try, I noticed that my back up went very quick. I thought nothing of it, but when I restored that back up, it did not work and caused problems. Looking into things, their was not enough room on the SD Card for the back up to complete all partitions, so it did what it could and finished. You may have several back ups that are incomplete.
2 - You are not waiting long enough for the phone to boot. I have had my phone stuck on the HTC screen for a minute or more before it finally starts the boot animation. If the HTC animation keeps starting over, you have a boot loop, but if it is just on the screen, it may just be taking longer to boot.
I hope this helps.
I had some similar issues at one point. I would try deleting the entire clockwork folder from your SD card and let it recreate when you go back into cwr. That's what worked for me. I believe it was due to some older files that were left behind from prior versions of cwr.
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Sounds like the same problem I had. Which was a bad SD card format. You can try to format your SD card via Windows and start all over. One thing to note is when you hook your phone up to your computer and mount it that you must use the safely remove device icon in the system tray. This will cause many problems for you if you don't. Trust me, I learned the hard way!
Thanks for suggestions, but I don't think we've got it yet.
Plenty of room for backups (more than 7 GB) on SD card. Have looked at backup files and am pretty sure they are complete. Backups take the usual amount of time, but I notice the failed restores go more quickly than full new installs.
Always use safely disconnect to disconnect from computer (rarely mount to computer anyway - files are usually sent to phone through Dropbox).
Suppose I can reformat SD card, but what a hassle to copy/paste everything back on.
Will try deleting CMR folder, but don't think there could be vestiges from previous versions since this is the first/only version installed since root.
Any other ideas from the incredibly bright and helpful people on this forum?
Have you tried reflashing recovery?
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ruvort said:
Have you tried reflashing recovery?
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Yeah, even tried using an earlier version. No joy.
bsteenson said:
Suppose I can reformat SD card, but what a hassle to copy/paste everything back on.
Any other ideas from the incredibly bright and helpful people on this forum?
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This is your best solution. If it doesn't work then you might have a bad SD card. It is a hassle to format the card but if you want it to work then it's the best solution.
Just a follow-up for anyone who lands on this thread because they have a similar problem.
Following the advice of spizzo03, I completely deleted ClockworkMod Recovery -- the app, the paid license app and the folder on the SD card. I then reinstalled just the free app of CMR from the Market.
Testing by trying to restore one of my backups ... IT NOW WORKS. Goes through the entire restore process -- system, data, cache, etc. -- whereas before it used to stop while restoring system.
Thanks to all who offered suggestions.
bsteenson said:
Just a follow-up for anyone who lands on this thread because they have a similar problem.
Following the advice of spizzo03, I completely deleted ClockworkMod Recovery -- the app, the paid license app and the folder on the SD card. I then reinstalled just the free app of CMR from the Market.
Testing by trying to restore one of my backups ... IT NOW WORKS. Goes through the entire restore process -- system, data, cache, etc. -- whereas before it used to stop while restoring system.
Thanks to all who offered suggestions.
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Another one here. I was having issues as well restoring backups and simply wiping the sdcard's clockworkmod folder was enough for me.

OUCH - Recovery issue

Something happened to my phone. I rebooted, and it just loads to a screen with the signal bars.. Nothing else. I have already wiped, installed my backup, etc. Same issue.
I believe that it has to do with something being deleted while cleaning up my storage, I subsequently backed up after doing this, so that is likely the issue.
I am running rogue's recovery and I cannot get the sd card to mount so that I can put another rom on and flash. It just does nothing what so ever.
Any help fixing the mount issue?
Couldn't you just take the sdcard out and use a reader/writer to put the ROM on?
You could also flash the appropriate "NoData" version of the stock ROM in the ODIN links in my signature. They will preserve your user data and get you booted so you can do more advanced repair work.
Do not delete your nandroid backups even if you think they are bad since you may need to recover portions of them.
sfhub said:
Couldn't you just take the sdcard out and use a reader/writer to put the ROM on?
You could also flash the appropriate "NoData" version of the stock ROM in the ODIN links in my signature. They will preserve your user data and get you booted so you can do more advanced repair work.
Do not delete your nandroid backups even if you think they are bad since you may need to recover portions of them.
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Worked like a charm, thank you!

[Q] Question about installing a custom rom

Okay my question is:
Is it possible to go from an unrooted phone with the whole software stock to a custom ROM, while keeping your data (apps, appdata, settings, sms, etc.)? If yes, how?
I'm on software version HTC WWE Europe 3.12.405.1, and I stored all my apps and photos etc on my SD-card.
I already know that the easyest way to instal another bootloader (CWM) is the AAHK. I downloaded it. But it will perform a downgrade resulting in loss of data.
Also while flashing a ROM you must reset the phone.
What I don't understand is this: you don't need to reset the SD-card, but the new ROM won't recognise the apps on your SD-card, so do you need to delete all those files then?
I know that what I'm probably asking a very nooby question, but I really hope that somebody can help me out here.
Thanks in advance, koningjim!
koningjim said:
Okay my question is:
Is it possible to go from an unrooted phone with the whole software stock to a custom ROM, while keeping your data (apps, appdata, settings, sms, etc.)? If yes, how?
I'm on software version HTC WWE Europe 3.12.405.1, and I stored all my apps and photos etc on my SD-card.
I already know that the easyest way to instal another bootloader (CWM) is the AAHK. I downloaded it. But it will perform a downgrade resulting in loss of data.
Also while flashing a ROM you must reset the phone.
What I don't understand is this: you don't need to reset the SD-card, but the new ROM won't recognise the apps on your SD-card, so do you need to delete all those files then?
I know that what I'm probably asking a very nooby question, but I really hope that somebody can help me out here.
Thanks in advance, koningjim!
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Take a look at this thread. Someone else had similar questions recently.
If by apps on the sdcard you mean apps you backed up with GoBackup or MyBackup or something similar, you will need to reinstall that backup app from the Play Store and use that app to restore your apps from the sdcard. If you mean with apps2sd, they're usually saved in a folder in the sdcard called .android_secure, and I know that 4ext recovery (and maybe others) wipes that folder when a new ROM is flashed. If the recovery doesn't, I would guess that it's wise to wipe it yourself.
Thank you very much for your response! This answers some of my questions, but not all. I hope the rest will be answered too.
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Thank you very much for your response! This answers some of my questions, but not all. I hope the rest will be answered too.
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What else do you need to know?
What I don't understand is this: you don't need to reset the SD-card, but the new ROM won't recognise the apps on your SD-card, so do you need to delete all those files then?
koningjim said:
What I don't understand is this: you don't need to reset the SD-card, but the new ROM won't recognise the apps on your SD-card, so do you need to delete all those files then?
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I'm assuming you are taking about the option that Android gives you to move apps to sd. I don't expect you to know this yet, since you haven't rooted yet, but before installing any ROM, you should do a full wipe. On my recovery, which is 4ext (and which I highly recommend you use after AAHK installs CWM recovery), it automatically wipes .android_secure (where the apps2sd are saved) in the course of a full wipe. If you choose another recovery, and it does not do so, I would recommend that you delete it yourself.
koningjim said:
What I don't understand is this: you don't need to reset the SD-card, but the new ROM won't recognise the apps on your SD-card, so do you need to delete all those files then?
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Not quite sure what you are asking. If you are talking about just the apk file, there shouldn't be any problems. No need to format the sd card.
OOw, I think I get it now! The apps are stored in .android_secure and not in another place in the SD-card. I already backed up my contacts, smses etc. So I guess there's no way to keep your appdata? Because you need root for that and for root you need to downgrade, which resets the phone?
koningjim said:
OOw, I think I get it now! The apps are stored in .android_secure and not in another place in the SD-card. I already backed up my contacts, smses etc. So I guess there's no way to keep your appdata? Because you need root for that and for root you need to downgrade, which resets the phone?
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Just to clarify, the .android_secure folder is for apps moved to the sd using the Android OS's apps2sd capability. If you're referring to another method (like Titanium Backup or GoBackup or something), that's different. Those backup apps can back up your apps, but not app data, to the sdcard; you would then reinstall them using the same backup app once the new ROM is installed.
If you need to downgrade to root, I don't know of a method to keep your app data, since the downgrade would wipe the OS before you had the root capability necessary to back up app data. There might be one, but I don't know of one.
OK, nice! Now I'm rooted and downgraded. However, now I want to install 4ext Recovery. So I downloaded the 4extRecoveryUpdater.apk from their website. But my phone won't open and install it. When I click on it in downloads it just says "Can't open this file".
Please help?!!?!
koningjim said:
OK, nice! Now I'm rooted and downgraded. However, now I want to install 4ext Recovery. So I downloaded the 4extRecoveryUpdater.apk from their website. But my phone won't open and install it. When I click on it in downloads it just says "Can't open this file".
Please help?!!?!
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Make sure "install from unknown sources" is checked in Settings -> Security. Try opening it from another application, like a file manager.
Oh well.. this sucks! Just one day after I rooted and lost all my data, a new version of Titanium Backup comes out that can back-up app-data without root
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