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Hello, I bought some day ago a Team 16GB class 10 Micro SD card, but my Defy freeze, expecially when I browse it with quickpic.
I see some thread about class 10 cards and someone found that a partial fix is format with 32k or 64k as file allocation unit size, and maybe another fix is set higher voltage with setsvel.
I've tried the format fix, but I gain only speed, now I'll try the second to gain the needed stability.
I read also that it's an Android kernel related issue, so we still need an official fix.
Someone know some other method?
D_L
Edit: Also the voltage tweak have failed... It's frustrating...
There maybe something related to the manufacturer. For example in my country the cheepest MicroSDHC Cards are made by Adata and Serioux (there maybe other chinesse brands but these are present at known big IT stores).
So people bought them, especially Adata ( which should be better than Serioux).
Class 6/10... and they ended up not working.
So my advice is to try with a Knigston/Kingmax/Transcend/ Sandisk( not that cheap) same 16gb and same class, see if you see a difference.
And i think Class 6 is enough... if let's say Class 10 from the manufacturers above it too expensive.
Maybe it helps.
Transcend?? um.. i don't think so, it's just the same.
perviously i had Transced 8 GB class 6,
using my old galaxy android, it's so fine and speed is good.
but after went to Defy, it was horrible.
often to cause hangs!
have to unmount / remount, which often not succeed, and have to pull out battery.
and it's especially happen when taking picture with camera or downloading + listening to mp3.
many good moments missed, can't take picture, because have to pull out the battery,
and that's embarassing, in front of my friend.
they think i have a smartphone but often hangs,
and now i know it is just because highclass sdcard.
i am using class 2 sdcard now, never get hangs.
end of problem.
I had the same problem.
I bought a 16GB class 10 SDHC ab. a month ago and when I'd been using my Defy always been freezed when I opened the Gallery or any else card related application.
I deleted the partition on the card and created a new one without LBA mode and the problem had been solved temporary. After a week it was start to make freezes again.
Actually I'm using a 16GB class 2 one (I bought it for 15 pounds as used). There's no problems any more, and it works as the same speed as the class 10 one (by the SD Tools).
I gave up and went back to a class 6 8GB Samsung, i did start a thread on the official Motorola forum if you want to go let them know about the problems, it might get them to issue a fix if more people start to complain about it. https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/53050?tstart=30
i tot only me..
same here..
wanna sell my DNA 16GB class 10.
phone hang quite easily after change to this
So i want to buy a 8 gb card class 4 or 6 tomorrow... and it must work would CM7 . What to get ? I understand that using Sd booster or CM7 default i should get the same speed acordingly to what i set ?
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Deonix said:
So i want to buy a 8 gb card class 4 or 6 tomorrow... and it must work would CM7 . What to get ? I understand that using Sd booster or CM7 default i should get the same speed acordingly to what i set ?
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Hi Deonix.
My SD is a SanDisk 8GB class 4 and working well.
A couple days a go i try to use my other SD 16GB (class 10) and had issues, so i back to the 8GB class 4.
Some users have 16 and 32GB class 2 and 4 and they have no problems.
Thanks... i will choose a class 4 probably Kingmax. Anyone with working Class 6 8gb? what manufacturer?
Question: i will have on my 8 gb card a bunch of apps-30-40... some games including Asphalt 6 < for example>, MotoNav, and music. Out of this i think i will still have 2-3 Gb free . I don't need to transfer data from Card to PC frequently (fast i mean) maybe when it happens i will use the phone as a mass storage.
The question is: Do i need a class 6? I only need to work properly while in the phone and have a decent speed as a Mass storage from time to time.
definetely is not cm7 problem,
i thought it was.. and many people thought it too.
maybe it's froyo kernel seems little bit buggy with hiclass sdcard.
and cm7 using froyo kernel though.
using class 2 sdcard is perfect.
the speed is just the same though.
have been checked with some bencharking tools.
Both me and the missus are using class 6 samsung cards this one to be precise http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Micro-Speed-memory-Class/dp/B002WGIV10/ref=pd_rhf_shvl_44 and it works greatSD tools shows a write speed of around 10MB/s and a read speed of around 21MB/s
actually, i'll buy SD Card Team 16 Gig class 10..
any problem with froyo for class 10 ?
need more advice from u guys
Garincha13 said:
actually, i'll buy SD Card Team 16 Gig class 10..
any problem with froyo for class 10 ?
need more advice from u guys
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many people confirm there's a problem with that,
even with 6 class sdcard.
i don't know what's going on but it's happening and annoying,
it happens on froyo, and CM7 too (FYI, CM7 Quarx uses froyo kernel).
Garincha13 said:
actually, i'll buy SD Card Team 16 Gig class 10..
any problem with froyo for class 10 ?
need more advice from u guys
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Thats what we are all saying, class 10 cards seem nothing but a problem regardless of size. This is why i went back to the class 6 samsung and posted a link to it cos i know it works.
Just bought a 8 gb Kingston class 4. Will report speed and any other issues as soon as i install CM7 with it.
Hope it works well. It's an Android Kernel issue from Froyo on the Class 6/10 crashes as i can understand.. nobody's fault ( here on XDA i mean). Still some work.
Also i remain strong on my position.
Choose your manufacturer wisely even if it costs 10-20$/i dunno how much more.
I use kingmax 16gb class10 allways hang,
so bad,
use class 4 or 2 batter
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i nearly bought a 16GB Lexmark class 6 card today but i dare not in case it didnt work, this is a crap situation.
Same here - Froyo 2.2.2 and Transend 16GB Class10 - freezes at random basis and random applications. No issues with 8GB Class 4.
I have similar problem, how do I know the class of the card? It is I believe a Kingston, I've had it for ages.
Also if it is relevant to someone, I have a Defy from CEE distribution, with Froyo.
Fabo.sk said:
I have similar problem, how do I know the class of the card? It is I believe a Kingston, I've had it for ages.
Also if it is relevant to someone, I have a Defy from CEE distribution, with Froyo.
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You can check if the class is printed on the card. Usually it is a number inside a letter "C" (like a full circle).
You can see the images here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sd_card#Speed_Class_Rating
Hi, im buying a 32gb sdcard for this phone but what class should i get?
I read somewhere that a class 10 is too fast to be able to run apps of it, when apps are moved to sdcard. Is that right?
If so, what class are all yours? 2, 4, 6, 8 or 10? Have you had troubles with them, or do they work fine?
Thanks
Jordanooo said:
Hi, im buying a 32gb sdcard for this phone but what class should i get?
I read somewhere that a class 10 is too fast to be able to run apps of it, when apps are moved to sdcard. Is that right?
If so, what class are all yours? 2, 4, 6, 8 or 10? Have you had troubles with them, or do they work fine?
Thanks
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I'm using a class 10 32gb card and i've had no issue with any apps when i move them to SD card, why would an app care about the speed of an SD card? and wouldn't it be the opposite for an apps speed? (class 2 card slow to start etc)
BTW the class system isn't really important with android because fast read and writes arnt critical for apps to run fast (helps a little) so go with class 10 (there cheap anyway, plus you should get over 10MBPS read/write)
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I'm using a class 10 32gb card and i've had no issue with any apps when i move them to SD card, why would an app care about the speed of an SD card? and wouldn't it be the opposite for an apps speed? (class 2 card slow to start etc)
BTW the class system isn't really important with android because fast read and writes arnt critical for apps to run fast (helps a little) so go with class 10 (there cheap anyway, plus you should get over 10MBPS read/write)
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Thanks, i thought the same thing about the speed :S dunno what he was on about haha. Ill go for a class 10 one
Thanks again!
Some people have had issues with class 10 cards as random access times can be slower. I have a class 6 and it works fine.
See this thread in xperia play accessories for more details
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1129749
sorry about creating a double thread, i didn't see that one
class 4 and/or 6 for me..
got a class 4... working awesome on my r800i, 2 co workers want 1 for the Htcs phones lol!
My sdcard is class 2, and all of my apps work just as fast as if they were internally installed
After lots of searching and reading can anyone help with SD card choice? Why is it such a problem for this phone? Is there different hardware in the phone or is it the way the ROM or Kernel addresses the card that seems to cause so much trouble?
For every card that is recommended you can find somebody who has had issues with same card so do I need to find out about the hardware in phone or stick to ROM or kernel threads for best card for me?
Have tried 3 cards so far and the lowest spec one was the best!! I know there are lots of reported problems with class 10 cards but also lots say their phones perform great with them but I found the class 10 PNY 8GB card the slowest I've used and a class 4 8GB sandisk the fastest with a class 6 8GB samsung nearly as fast but still cannot work out why there is so much trouble with SD cards
Ive been using a class 6 A-DATA sd card for quite a while now and I must say, I'm impressed with its speed. Its great for A2SD and SD ext. I tried sebastiaans rom, and it runs pretty smooth on this card, WAY better than on my class 2 samsung sd card.
In the end its just a matter of taste, some say Samsung is better, some say A-DATA is and others Kingston. Ive read that a class 10 card is a bit of overkill for the usage and that a lot of them arent as fast as they claim to be. I'd say class 6 will do just fine! The brand does not matter, stick with the big names tho . Kingston, A-DATA and Samsung seem to be bought the most!
Thanks but still want to know why, what is the limitation...the phone hardware or rom/kernel? I'm on seb15 AIO5.0.2 now with cm7 r2 hboot and the class 6 samsung 8GB in much faster than the class 10 PNY 8GB so not getting any lag now but seems no different to the class 4 sandisk that i replaced due to card errors but that was on standard HBoot.
Have just ordered a sandisk ultra 16GB card for extra space so hope it is as good or better and it was a bargin http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/...-Micro-SD-HC-Memory-Card-Class-6/Product.html
but what is the fastest read and write speed you can expect from the hardware? I use antutu now to check speed.
andy3434 said:
Thanks but still want to know why, what is the limitation...the phone hardware or rom/kernel? I'm on seb15 AIO5.0.2 now with cm7 r2 hboot and the class 6 samsung 8GB in much faster than the class 10 PNY 8GB so not getting any lag now but seems no different to the class 4 sandisk that i replaced due to card errors but that was on standard HBoot.
Have just ordered a sandisk ultra 16GB card for extra space so hope it is as good or better and it was a bargin http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/...-Micro-SD-HC-Memory-Card-Class-6/Product.html
but what is the fastest read and write speed you can expect from the hardware? I use antutu now to check speed.
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I have tried 2 of those 16gb ultra mobile dual color cards and I had a lot of frezes, with AIO 5.0.1SE rom, CM7r2 Hboot. So I had to go back to my lexar 16gb class6.
Hhmmmm like i said for every good report on a card there is a bad one, have read a few good reports on this card and the original class 4 sandisk card has been the best i've used so far so thought would give it a try...hope I'm lucky with it!!
It should arrive today or tomorrow so will repoet what i find
Well the sandisk 16gb ultra mobile has turned up and been running it for a few days now with no problems, ROM is running smooth with no freezes so far.
Using antutu to bench mark it and it appears to be slightly faster than the class 6 samsung 8GB it replaced, alot quicker than the class 10 PNY but still slower than the old class 4 sandisk 8GB!
ROM runs sloothly and I have enough space for now so will stick with it.
Yep... ultra mobile is the best card that I ever use till now.
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Well the sandisk 16gb ultra mobile has turned up and been running it for a few days now with no problems, ROM is running smooth with no freezes so far.
Using antutu to bench mark it and it appears to be slightly faster than the class 6 samsung 8GB it replaced, alot quicker than the class 10 PNY but still slower than the old class 4 sandisk 8GB!
ROM runs sloothly and I have enough space for now so will stick with it.
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Thanks to let us know, but can you tell me what rom are you using with it? are you still using Seb rom? CM7r2 or Stock hboot? Thanks
Seb rom still, version 5.1AIO and cm7 r2 hboot
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We recommend a Class 6 Transcend for any kind of data swapping like data2sd, or data2ext, on the basis of maximum positive feedback. A class 10 is more often overkill and most brands are incompatible with the Desire, while a Class 2 might be underpowered (in terms of speed).
Personally tested cards with data2sd:
Class 2 Kingston-Ok
Class 6 Transcend 4GB-Great
Class 6 SanDisk 16GB-Lags
Class 6 Samsung 16GB-Great
Class 4 3CPro 16GB-Great
Class 10 Transcend 16 GB-lags
The polls section of supernova.droidzone.in has some polls regarding speed of card with my roms.
..and you can't get a more useful response than that!
Is anyone using a class 10 micro SD card on Xperia PRO?..
I'm interested in knowing if there's any significant improvement in performance and user experience... specially for installing apps in a second partition of the SD card (I use link2sd, but any other alternative should be a good reference)...
Also, please state what ROM you are using and what's your experience.
Thanks in advance!.
atmos929 said:
Is anyone using a class 10 micro SD card on Xperia PRO?..
I'm interested in knowing if there's any significant improvement in performance and user experience... specially for installing apps in a second partition of the SD card (I use link2sd, but any other alternative should be a good reference)...
Also, please state what ROM you are using and what's your experience.
Thanks in advance!.
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I have MicroSD card from SanDisk, model UHS-1 (Greater than Class 10) 16GB and i have on it Ext2 or Ext3 partition. This is a great experience. It runs great. Very fast and stable.
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I have MicroSD card from SanDisk, model UHS-1 (Greater than Class 10) 16GB and i have on it Ext2 or Ext3 partition. This is a great experience. It runs great. Very fast and stable.
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can you use SD tools and test it speed. I just bough class 10 but speed only around 7mbps (writing speed)
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Dartus95 said:
I have MicroSD card from SanDisk, model UHS-1 (Greater than Class 10) 16GB and i have on it Ext2 or Ext3 partition. This is a great experience. It runs great. Very fast and stable.
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can you use SD tools and test it speed. I just bough class 10 but speed only around 7mbps (writing speed)
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I can, but i changed Xperia Pro mk16i for Galaxy S GT-i9000, so this test may be misleading.
Dartus95 said:
I can, but i changed Xperia Pro mk16i for Galaxy S GT-i9000, so this test may be misleading.
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Ya, thanks ... but worth to compare anyway
Hi, can someone please tell me if a SanDisk 64GB Mobile Ultra MicroSDXC Memory Card with SD Adapter will work with my Xperia Play? The one im considering is Class 6. Also, how does the Xperia Play handle class 6 cards? I have read differing opinions on the class of card to go far, with a class 10 card deemed to probably be too much for the xperia play to handle. I think class 4 was recommended but how would a class 6 card fare in the Xperia Play?
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Hi, can someone please tell me if a SanDisk 64GB Mobile Ultra MicroSDXC Memory Card with SD Adapter will work with my Xperia Play? The one im considering is Class 6. Also, how does the Xperia Play handle class 6 cards? I have read differing opinions on the class of card to go far, with a class 10 card deemed to probably be too much for the xperia play to handle. I think class 4 was recommended but how would a class 6 card fare in the Xperia Play?
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Hello, yes it has been mentioned repeatedly in several thread that the 64gb sandisk card works in the Xperia PLAY. Although I have moved in to a Nexus 5, I have in my PLAY a 64gb card for the last two years and it works great.
If you have a question please try to do a search in XDA xperia play first before making a new thread. As this will minimize duplicate Q&A threads, thank you.
Edit - in preparation, format the card in your PC as Fat32. Or format from your phone from CWM recovery
ozzmanj1 said:
Hello, yes it has been mentioned repeatedly in several thread that the 64gb sandisk card works in the Xperia PLAY. Although I have moved in to a Nexus 5, I have in my PLAY a 64gb card for the last two years and it works great.
If you have a question please try to do a search in XDA xperia play first before making a new thread. As this will minimize duplicate Q&A threads, thank you.
Edit - in preparation, format the card in your PC as Fat32. Or format from your phone from CWM recovery
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Thanks. What class card do you use? Do you know how well a class 6 card would perform in the Xperia Play? Would something lower like maybe a class 4 card perform better?
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Thanks. What class card do you use? Do you know how well a class 6 card would perform in the Xperia Play? Would something lower like maybe a class 4 card perform better?
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I would highly recommend class 6. Its the best all around.
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