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I feel bad for this phone....really bad

I hate posting needless threads....and Hate reading them as well, but I have to get this off my chest. Since two months before the release of this phone the number of anticipation threads on EVERY forum I frequent was overwhelming...but I respect that. I love tech and love people who love it.
Since the actual release I have developed a huge amount of disgust for the people who obtain these phones and who help along the thought that a device like the iPhone is a superior device. I am completely blown away by the level of baseless expectation for a PHONE.
Android has always been a "techie" OS, the hardware was forever changing between manufacturers and the people who used them, understood that. I dont know if its due to the flooding of new users, that have not joined XDA to LEARN anything, or if people just dont realize what exactly they have in their hand, but the slamming that Androids own users give only enforces iPhone users beliefs that they have the superior device and help in the decision for new users to go elsewhere for a GOOD phone.
What phone were you using... three years ago? Even the fondest memories of your first android experience cannot compete with the devices we have to choose from now. Lag is a part of Android....we dont experience anything like the first round of android phones. Current devices have come leaps and bounds from where they were, lag now is split second compared to 10-15 we used to get. Once again though, that was something we didnt care about because of EVERY OTHER ADVANTAGE these devices offered. These are all things that set us apart from the users of Blackberries and iphones.
The lack of appreciation for the devices that have come so far puts us right with iPhone fanbois who started whining the second they had a antenna issue.....I am always up for a good debate on hardware...superior phones are great.....the continuous slamming of some of the worlds greatest technology on the other hand....is pathetic. You have never held in your hand two years ago tech that compares with what you have today. To me....this is what I love about Android, most of all its what I RESPECT about it. This is XDA DEVELOPERS....the Devs here put in their time to do things to these devices that cant be done on any other phones....in the end... for you. All I can read is a hundred posts warning Devs not to even get this phone....
Maybe I am way off....I dont know, Maybe what I thought about Android users having such a love for tech and a individualized experience is what made Android the no brainer choice. It has just really became painfully obvious to me that people can now tear up phones with 720p displays talking about image quality, dual core phones with unacceptable lag, and a expectation of performance that no other device they have owned, WAS BETTER than, You may think it was....but it wasn't. What you expect is something you may never see.
the Nexus has always been a Devs device, maybe some shame on Google for making this phone seem like the next iPhone...but its not an iPhone. If bugs and experimental tweaks are not for you...then you got the wrong device, Return it and get a different phone....its OK, nobody who loves this phone is going to be hurt. Android is not for everyone, having said that... it doesnt make Android not as good as the alternatives and the hardware is still stellar whether you agree or not.
To the Nexus....your alright in my book

I'm in love with this phone. Nuff said. My first Android phone was the G1 so I can appreciate good technology.
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I like android
between my HTC Incredible S and my GN I had a iPhone 4s for 12 days
1st 3 days was nice, and then the shine vanished rapidly as I hit its limitations.
after 10 days I wanted to smash it
but on day 12 I managed to swap for GN I have now, much much better
I like having a phone OS that will go "ok, we'll do it your way then"
Not "this is the only way I can do this!"

I think they call what you have, jealousy. Just thinking out loud ha
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I have this to say to everyone who whines that the phone they just got has some flaw that most rational people see as minor: Cry me a
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Has anyone seen John Connor?

This is my Nexus. There are many others like it, but this one is mine. My Nexus is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life. Without me, my Nexus is useless. Without my Nexus, I am useless. I must use my Nexus true. I must use it better than my enemy(Iphone), who is trying to destroy me. I must destroy him before he destroys me. I will. Before God I swear this creed: my Nexus and myself are defenders of everything good in this world, we are the masters of our enemy, we are the saviors of AOSP. So be it, until there is no enemy, but peace. Amen.

Most people post flaws not to complain but to make sure their new expensive toy isn't defective outside normal expectations. I think they look for comfort in knowing its normal and it isn't hurting anything. They need to hear, from the experts, our opinions on it. Will it get fixed or should they second guess things?
Some take it too far and cry outrage for attention (mountain out of an anthill).
The world takes all kinds. The Galaxy Nexus is pretty good though. Considering what problems other phones have to deal with.
-Galaxy Nexus
-Asus Transformer

Android is great. The Nexus is great. Being great means being popular. Being popular means dealing with whiners and morons. The iPhone is great in its way and has people that whine about it all day long.
I agree with what you're saying, but in the end it just doesn't bother me anymore. Let the whiners whine. That's what they do best
For better or worse, Android isn't a small, cult culture anymore. Probably for the better... you just have to deal with more idiots now.

tylerdurdin said:
I hate posting needless threads....and Hate reading them as well, but I have to get this off my chest. Since two months before the release of this phone the number of anticipation threads on EVERY forum I frequent was overwhelming...but I respect that. I love tech and love people who love it.
Since the actual release I have developed a huge amount of disgust for the people who obtain these phones and who help along the thought that a device like the iPhone is a superior device. I am completely blown away by the level of baseless expectation for a PHONE.
Android has always been a "techie" OS, the hardware was forever changing between manufacturers and the people who used them, understood that. I dont know if its due to the flooding of new users, that have not joined XDA to LEARN anything, or if people just dont realize what exactly they have in their hand, but the slamming that Androids own users give only enforces iPhone users beliefs that they have the superior device and help in the decision for new users to go elsewhere for a GOOD phone.
What phone were you using... three years ago? Even the fondest memories of your first android experience cannot compete with the devices we have to choose from now. Lag is a part of Android....we dont experience anything like the first round of android phones. Current devices have come leaps and bounds from where they were, lag now is split second compared to 10-15 we used to get. Once again though, that was something we didnt care about because of EVERY OTHER ADVANTAGE these devices offered. These are all things that set us apart from the users of Blackberries and iphones.
The lack of appreciation for the devices that have come so far puts us right with iPhone fanbois who started whining the second they had a antenna issue.....I am always up for a good debate on hardware...superior phones are great.....the continuous slamming of some of the worlds greatest technology on the other hand....is pathetic. You have never held in your hand two years ago tech that compares with what you have today. To me....this is what I love about Android, most of all its what I RESPECT about it. This is XDA DEVELOPERS....the Devs here put in their time to do things to these devices that cant be done on any other phones....in the end... for you. All I can read is a hundred posts warning Devs not to even get this phone....
Maybe I am way off....I dont know, Maybe what I thought about Android users having such a love for tech and a individualized experience is what made Android the no brainer choice. It has just really became painfully obvious to me that people can now tear up phones with 720p displays talking about image quality, dual core phones with unacceptable lag, and a expectation of performance that no other device they have owned, WAS BETTER than, You may think it was....but it wasn't. What you expect is something you may never see.
the Nexus has always been a Devs device, maybe some shame on Google for making this phone seem like the next iPhone...but its not an iPhone. If bugs and experimental tweaks are not for you...then you got the wrong device, Return it and get a different phone....its OK, nobody who loves this phone is going to be hurt. Android is not for everyone, having said that... it doesnt make Android not as good as the alternatives and the hardware is still stellar whether you agree or not.
To the Nexus....your alright in my book
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Enough said. Great thread in my opinion. This device is great OTB and will grow with more software upgrades and Developers ROMs in the future.

I bought this phone expecting issues so far none except for the usual new os issues do you want the greatest and latest then expect minor issues as far as I am concerned vzw should not have released this phone without a warning this is not a droid device this phone is special and be prepared for issues. It is the best phone I have ever owned.
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Everyone complains about new phones, just weather the storm and you'll be rewarded. My brother just got the phone and he loves it.
Btw development on this phone will be insane. The ns4g has pretty good development and it isn't even that popular.
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OP. You expect too much from xda. Now that this phone is prime time on Verizon, the amount of nexus owners that know what xda is are a margin of error in the user base numbers. It will endlessly be compared to other off the shelf devices, and rightly so. That's just the way it is, and probably the way it should be. If google had to depend on xda and devs to sell this device they would have to hang it up.
I love the phone. And I also am willing to admit its faults, Android's faults, and wait for the inevitable improvements. Google looked second rate trying to launch this phone compared to an iPhone launch, that's an indisputable fact. I have this device because I don't want an iPhone. I have it because I believe in Android as a platform. I have it because it truly is fantastic device OUT OF THE BOX. I have zero plans to root, unlock the bootloader or flash ROMs.
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i work with iphones day in day out..........and if you want a phone they great...........if you want something to enjoy............then you will be bored within days.
look at where the iphone started and where it is now.......pretty much the exact same product, a little more polished, a little quicker but in essence the same..........and the next generation i phone? same old same old with some little gimmick to promote sales.....in what is it 5 years? the iphone exploded on the scene but has then simply grown old....from one generation to the next they are grossly similar......pick any of the recent generation android phones put it in one hand then put the most recent iphone in the other..................
and then ask yourself.............why would anyone buy an iphone?
well if you want to be dictated to, if you want zero control over your phone if you want a 'bland' life then choose the iphone.
If you want entertainment, fun, expansion and freedom...........choose android.
would i take an iphone? yes if someone gave it to me
would i buy an iphone? never
oh and windows phones? i have worked with them.......well i have tried to work with them..........worst case was 100% charge to dead in 57 minutes would i take one of them for free? no chance

tylerdurdin said:
I hate posting needless threads....and Hate reading them as well, but I have to get this off my chest. Since two months before the release of this phone the number of anticipation threads on EVERY forum I frequent was overwhelming...but I respect that. I love tech and love people who love it.
Since the actual release I have developed a huge amount of disgust for the people who obtain these phones and who help along the thought that a device like the iPhone is a superior device. I am completely blown away by the level of baseless expectation for a PHONE.
Android has always been a "techie" OS, the hardware was forever changing between manufacturers and the people who used them, understood that. I dont know if its due to the flooding of new users, that have not joined XDA to LEARN anything, or if people just dont realize what exactly they have in their hand, but the slamming that Androids own users give only enforces iPhone users beliefs that they have the superior device and help in the decision for new users to go elsewhere for a GOOD phone.
What phone were you using... three years ago? Even the fondest memories of your first android experience cannot compete with the devices we have to choose from now. Lag is a part of Android....we dont experience anything like the first round of android phones. Current devices have come leaps and bounds from where they were, lag now is split second compared to 10-15 we used to get. Once again though, that was something we didnt care about because of EVERY OTHER ADVANTAGE these devices offered. These are all things that set us apart from the users of Blackberries and iphones.
The lack of appreciation for the devices that have come so far puts us right with iPhone fanbois who started whining the second they had a antenna issue.....I am always up for a good debate on hardware...superior phones are great.....the continuous slamming of some of the worlds greatest technology on the other hand....is pathetic. You have never held in your hand two years ago tech that compares with what you have today. To me....this is what I love about Android, most of all its what I RESPECT about it. This is XDA DEVELOPERS....the Devs here put in their time to do things to these devices that cant be done on any other phones....in the end... for you. All I can read is a hundred posts warning Devs not to even get this phone....
Maybe I am way off....I dont know, Maybe what I thought about Android users having such a love for tech and a individualized experience is what made Android the no brainer choice. It has just really became painfully obvious to me that people can now tear up phones with 720p displays talking about image quality, dual core phones with unacceptable lag, and a expectation of performance that no other device they have owned, WAS BETTER than, You may think it was....but it wasn't. What you expect is something you may never see.
the Nexus has always been a Devs device, maybe some shame on Google for making this phone seem like the next iPhone...but its not an iPhone. If bugs and experimental tweaks are not for you...then you got the wrong device, Return it and get a different phone....its OK, nobody who loves this phone is going to be hurt. Android is not for everyone, having said that... it doesnt make Android not as good as the alternatives and the hardware is still stellar whether you agree or not.
To the Nexus....your alright in my book
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^^ didnt read
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I feel bad for the noobs getting this phone. And some of the android vets. And... Apple. I feel really good about this phone. My gripes with this phone are no sd slot and updates cant come fast enough. Thank you devs, though my head is spinning trying to figure out what to flash first. Lol.
Crazy world, ay?

So people shouldn't complain about legitimate issues they are having with their expensive new phone so you can have an easier time arguing with iPhone fans in immature flame wars? What a stupid post. This site is not about you or people like you who want to brag and argue about whose phone is best.

KneeDragr said:
So people shouldn't complain about legitimate issues they are having with their expensive new phone so you can have an easier time arguing with iPhone fans in immature flame wars? What a stupid post. This site is not about you or people like you who want to brag and argue about whose phone is best.
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1. iPhone fans generally don't come here.
2. The only flaming in this thread so far has come from you.
3. The OP was never directed at people who have legitimate problems with their phones and post here looking for help. It was always about those who have already posted numerous threads whining about things nobody can do anything about, such as "I HATE the Pentile display!" (take it back and get a Rezound then instead of posting whinefest threads that clutter this forum and help no one).
4. The OP was also not trying to instigate a flame war over which phone is best. There's nothing wrong with posting one's personal preference here. The problem comes when someone makes a personal attack, like, say, "What a stupid post. This site is not about you or people like you..."
Has anyone seen John Connor?

I don't remember Tyler Durden being this soft, having to get "something off his chest" lol.
j/k
I don't feel bad for this phone....I think the engineers and developers wish they had done some things a little different. Overall I think its still a great product.
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all i have to say is we're all a bunch of suckers who love phones too much.
seriously... a forum... for phones?...
lol...

The phone is fine. There are some issues, but they all have issues at first. Calm, rational trouble shooting easily fixes issues that are software related. Some have hardware issues etc. Nothing too damning, squeaky wheel.
What i DO see on the net is stupid people that got the phone expecting it to make their vapid life more fulfilling, only to realize it is just a phone. The phone is not borked, the dog**** applications you jammed it full with are. Take a breath a realize this is a new OS release, so your old system utilities may not function properly, and may in fact make your device function poorly.
Go back to teh iphonez.

99% of the world does not know of ics, why?

Since I put ics on a nexus s and my epic touch and now a kindle fire it just makes me sad that most of the world has no clue or ever will. By the time we get more pure Google devices they will be on there next version jelly bean. I don't understand why Google bows down to manufacturers. Does Google really need them.
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Fataldesain said:
Since I put ics on a nexus s and my epic touch and now a kindle fire it just makes me sad that most of the world has no clue or ever will. By the time we get more pure Google devices they will be on there next version jelly bean. I don't understand why Google bows down to manufacturers. Does Google really need them.
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This thread is pointless, many devices over the next year will have ice cream sandwiches. Other than the nexus devices we won't see jellybean devices until this time next year, aka a whole year away.
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Fataldesain said:
Since I put ics on a nexus s and my epic touch and now a kindle fire it just makes me sad that most of the world has no clue or ever will. By the time we get more pure Google devices they will be on there next version jelly bean. I don't understand why Google bows down to manufacturers. Does Google really need them.
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Google doesn't bow down. Android is open...simple answer, I know.
They are free to do whatever the hell they want. The only time Google is even allowed to have a say is when it comes to Google Apps. Sure, they could tighten restrictions on what it takes to be qualified to get Google Apps, but, that's starting to looked like a less open and more closed garden...if you will.
Google isn't Jesus, by any stretch...but, in the modern IT/OS/API/Platform/etc/etc/etc world they are by far the most open and agreeable of all the big players. This is one of the unfortunate side effects....or fortunate depending on how you look at it. They allow a manufacturer/reseller to make the OS "their own", encouraging them to release Android devices. That's good....however they also allow a manufacturer/reseller to make the OS "their own", encouraging "fragmentation" and update issues.
I prefer it to the alternative. An authoritarian leadership model that dictates what can and can't be.
...and remember, these manufacturers/resellers are TOTALLY FREE to put out whatever the hell they--or YOU--want.....but if it doesn't meet Google's very livable requirements it doesn't qualify for Google Apps.

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Google officially bought Motorola mobile yesterday i think. They don't need to bow down to anyone anymore lol
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patrao_n said:
Ibtl
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Thanks, I just spit my drink all over my screen....LMFAO

locoboi187 said:
Google officially bought Motorola mobile yesterday i think. They don't need to bow down to anyone anymore lol
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They still have to stay completely open source for at least 5 years as part of the deal made, theyre still bowing down lol No biggie, I like things the way they are, it's how I got into this community in the first place
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"99% of the world does not know of ics, why?"
Because they don't care.

oscarthegrouch said:
"99% of the world does not know of ics, why?"
Because they don't care.
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Very true we are spoiled because of this and other forums bring us together but the hacking community is very small we are the 1% I have talked 10 of my friends to trade in their iPhones for android devices and now I handle everything for their phones. 3 have started to pick up on things but the others are lost and just suggest colors for things I get to it when I can and try to keep them up to date lol but yea point made I hope.
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No because Google borked Ics since launch. Could of had more devices and advertising pure Google. They had plenty of great ads in YouTube never saw them on TV. Then letting Verizon having it exclusive was a real good move.
Can you think of any other software that comes out and doesn't get used for months or even a year. What is really the point of the update if nobody gets it. If you think Google handled this well something is wrong with you.
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Because one of the things that makes android better is the sheer amount of different devices manufacturers out there that causes lots of delays. Apple only worries about 5 different devices while Google has hundreds
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Thank the phone manufacture...
Google doesn't sit down and program all the drivers ect for the phones.
It's my phone...any mis takes...sry

donsh00tmesanta said:
Because one of the things that makes android better is the sheer amount of different devices manufacturers out there that causes lots of delays. Apple only worries about 5 different devices while Google has hundreds
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if all the android device makers would just use what Google gives them, ICS would be everywhere. But they all need to add their own overlays like Sense, touchwiz, etc. That's what causes the delays, most times. look at all the Chinese tablets out since January with vanilla ICS, other manufacturers could do the same.

Not to mention crap like trying to code for the 3D camera on the EVO3D. That is apparently a ***** to do.

Fataldesain said:
Since I put ics on a nexus s and my epic touch and now a kindle fire it just makes me sad that most of the world has no clue or ever will. By the time we get more pure Google devices they will be on there next version jelly bean. I don't understand why Google bows down to manufacturers. Does Google really need them.
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Why would it make you sad?
ICS isn't a living being that should be mourned when forgotten.
Jelly Bean is going to be better than ICS, otherwise why would you call it an upgrade?
Tech moves fast. The manufacturers take their time and put their overlays on their devices to give them a different feel so when someone purchases one, they don't feel like they have the same device as everyone else.
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I don't understand why Google bows down to manufacturers. Does Google really need them.
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Google doesn't 'bow down' to manufacturers. Android doesn't belong to google, it belongs to the open handset alliance. It's merely backed by google since they are a leading member of the open handset alliance.
They don't bow down to them, if they did; why would there be requirements for a device to be able to be pre installed with Google's apps?
Do they need them? Well, Without manufacturers, you can't make a device.
I like android because of the choice I have in devices, Not like Apple where you get two deviecs.
iPhone or iPad?
I'd rather it be like this than like iOS is.

I'm not an expert on this but I have heard the main complication with getting ICS to the masses has been the massive changes between the GB standard and ICS. For phones they skipped an entire version of code enhancements that were not made available to them; drivers and other pieces of the standard kernel were modified but only tested on the Nexus devices.
So the manufacturer has to take the new kernel, add their modifications back in, make sure they play nice (which doesn't happen even in the desktop world - Windows anyone?) and then start plugging away at each issue until they get to a stable build. Rinse and repeat when it gets to the carrier. You're talking a LOT of hours to get that far and it doesn't come cheap - we haven't even talked about the cost of test devices.
So considering it took roughly 6 months to get a stable build to end users on a non-Nexus device - folks, from my POV we're honestly spoiled.

oscarthegrouch said:
"99% of the world does not know of ics, why?"
Because they don't care.
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Spot on!
I have at least a dozen friends on android phones, and I doubt one of them could tell you what version their phone is running.
Heck, even in my IT/Telecom shop, I doubt more than one or two people could tell what version of Android they are on.
Outside of the modding community, most people not only simply don't know, when brought to their attention, they just don't care.
THEM: Does my Facebook work? Can I send pics and texts. Can I play Draw Something and Angry Birds.
Me: Yes.
Them:Then what does this version you keep asking me about matter...
<rolls eyes>

I think, because we are in the hacking / development world, we look at the next best thing from source as an upgrade. We are aware of what is about to come out from source, etc, but to the rest of the population, they arent keeping tabs on Google, or even the carrier probably. We know ICS is there, so that is the upgrade to us. The rest of the people see an "Upgrade available" on their phone, so that is their upgrade. We get our upgrade when google releases it, they get theirs when the carrier releases it.

My coworker is very loyal to Android but she was not aware of the naming system. She was even more excited because she likes all the desserts they've used.

Where do you guys think Android is heading?

Curious to see what you all think!
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog/2012/05/where-do-you-think-android-is-heading-to-next/

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Haha, best comment ever.

Asus Padfone is the future of Android.

earlyberd said:
Asus Padfone is the future of Android.
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I have to agree with you.
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I remember when android first came out and i was on winmo i hated the look of it. Now i cannot imagine running anything else. As for the future, i see google buying open webos and incorp into android. Id love to see a android desktop os in the future as well.

fix-this! said:
I remember when android first came out and i was on winmo i hated the look of it. Now i cannot imagine running anything else. As for the future, i see google buying open webos and incorp into android. Id love to see a android desktop os in the future as well.
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How can you buy open source?
But yeah, we'll probably see a lot of WebOS stuff trickle onto Android (just look at swipe to dismiss). Google just hired the core WebOS team

.. and get sued by HP?
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It's always heading up up up. I've been an advocate since it first started and told everyone iphones would always be too dumbed down and windows and blackberry phones would go down

rubiconjp said:
.. and get sued by HP?
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hp will put out webos in september and wash their hands of it.

Realistically, the next version will most likely have some desktop mode when plugged into a dock. This is why they bought moto and makes a lot of sense for a few reasons:
1. Lets android compete on a different level than ios or windows phone, allowing it to be your computer and your phone.
2. The hardware is ready there to do this, so it makes sense for them to make the leap now.
3. Instead of competing with toy OS's like ios, wp7, and webos, they would be playing with the big boys (aka, windows). Once your operating system is capable of real productivity, you can sell to the business market, which is huge and has had no competition. since the birth of windows 95.
4. This would require a new peripheral, which would boost sales and further lock people into Google's services.
After paying billions for moto and sitting on them, I can't see any other logical path for them to take.
On a side note, noticed most current phones have a barometer. Any ideas on how this might be used in the future?
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xxBrun0xx said:
Realistically, the next version will most likely have some desktop mode when plugged into a dock. This is why they bought moto and makes a lot of sense for a few reasons:
1. Lets android compete on a different level than ios or windows phone, allowing it to be your computer and your phone.
2. The hardware is ready there to do this, so it makes sense for them to make the leap now.
3. Instead of competing with toy OS's like ios, wp7, and webos, they would be playing with the big boys (aka, windows). Once your operating system is capable of real productivity, you can sell to the business market, which is huge and has had no competition. since the birth of windows 95.
4. This would require a new peripheral, which would boost sales and further lock people into Google's services.
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It's a novel idea but I doubt they're up to this level yet. If anything I see it coming in later releases. Why do this when they can expand their whole hardware portfolio of selling chromebooks, tablets, etc.? I think that's more important than trying to turn their Android phones into desktop computers.
After paying billions for moto and sitting on them, I can't see any other logical path for them to take.
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Take the large number of valuable patents and sell the failing Motorola hardware business that loses money every quarter.
I want Google to integrate Motorola's hardware business and make awesome "All Google" Nexus devices as much as any other Android fan, but I don't see them doing this, especially not in the short term. They'd be competing directly with the manufacturers they currently license Android to, which isn't a very good business model.
On a side note, noticed most current phones have a barometer. Any ideas on how this might be used in the future?
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It's used to improve GPS accuracy.

harveydent said:
How can you buy open source?
But yeah, we'll probably see a lot of WebOS stuff trickle onto Android (just look at swipe to dismiss). Google just hired the core WebOS team
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The people they hired were mostly web apps people so they will probably work in the Chromebook division of Google
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Where is Android going? Within a few years, the best ever. I'd say by 2016 its going to start becoming old. (Ala Symbian, BB) I hate to say it, but its inevitable. I love Android and hope to god it never goes there.
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Smokeey said:
Where is Android going? Within a few years, the best ever. I'd say by 2016 its going to start becoming old. (Ala Symbian, BB) I hate to say it, but its inevitable. I love Android and hope to god it never goes there.
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It seems natural to do that. But I don't know of Google would ever let that happen. Same reason why Apple wouldn't let that happen with iOS. I just feel Google has big plans for Android and for it to just be much more than a mobile OS. And plus with every Google service being so tightly integrated into Android it would be too hard for it to fail at this point. Time will tell! But I'm excited like you. And optimistic.
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Smokeey said:
Where is Android going? Within a few years, the best ever. I'd say by 2016 its going to start becoming old. (Ala Symbian, BB) I hate to say it, but its inevitable. I love Android and hope to god it never goes there.
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yeah of course there will come a time when a better mobile OS comes along. android won't stay on top forever.

Sorry, wrong thread.

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yeah of course there will come a time when a better mobile OS comes along. android won't stay on top forever.
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I used to think the same about google as a search engine, although they've proved me (and everyone) wrong by completely dominating the search engine market since the internet was very young. Google's motivated and has a lot of sway, and unlike most corporations, people really seem to LIKE google! I think if anyone can break the cycle of companies rising and falling, it's them

Android will be around for the time being.
The history is repeating. This is similar how did IBM-compatible PC beat Apple computer by adapting open standard versus propitiatory. Since PC accepts open hardware standard, it has further advantage than Mac.
Android (and Windows Phone 7.x) also accepts open hardware specifications, and the result is we have much wider choice of hardware instead of ONE.

An open os will sell itself. I can not wait to triple boot my pc with android. I would love having the exact same experience from my phone to my pc. And if anyone has the money and time to do it, it is Google.
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[Goodbye] Dedicated I-Moved-On Thread

Subscribe to this thread to keep track of who is leaving the Galaxy Nexus and which phone they will be moving on to. Maybe some of the developers will also make a stop here. Feel free to thank however you want.
This thread will keep the General section free of clutter.
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Sold my Nexus a day before yesterday for PKR 33,000 (about $340, yes they are expensive in Pakistan). Now waiting for the next Nexus to launch and then I'll upgrade. Meanwhile rocking an old Nokia dumb phone.
Once a Nexus, always a Nexus. All thanks to the awesome devs here.

I've just moved on from my Nexus to an iPhone 5. Best decision of my life!
I love the way I have to use iTunes to move music/videos etc to my phone. And better yet, the range of expensive products you can buy with a special lightning connector (with a name like that it must be fast!) is way better than micro USB.
I recommend this phone to everyone with a crappy Nexus.

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I've just moved on from my Nexus to an iPhone 5. Best decision of my life!
I love the way I have to use iTunes to move music/videos etc to my phone. And better yet, the range of expensive products you can buy with a special lightning connector (with a name like that it must be fast!) is way better than micro USB.
I recommend this phone to everyone with a crappy Nexus.
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Can't tell if serious or troll...
That's exactly what an iPhone user would say, but also something someone trolling would say
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I've just moved on from my Nexus to an iPhone 5. Best decision of my life!
I love the way I have to use iTunes to move music/videos etc to my phone. And better yet, the range of expensive products you can buy with a special lightning connector (with a name like that it must be fast!) is way better than micro USB.
I recommend this phone to everyone with a crappy Nexus.
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You think you're cool/funny? This only confirms how insecure Android retards are. Android is the only legacy OS remaining when compared to iOS, Windows Mobile, and Blackberry 10.
OMG did someone just make a slightly negative remark towards Android? OMG there's absolutely no way it's true in any way. They must be burned alive.
Edit: I don't plan on leaving my Galaxy Nexus just yet. I've gotten used to the crappy screen, and performance has been great since Jellybean, so I can't complain. I'm looking closely at Blackberry 10 to see if it is worthy of jumping ships when it comes out, but otherwise, my next phone will be the next Nexus (hopefully Sony)

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Can't tell if serious or troll...
That's exactly what an iPhone user would say, but also something someone trolling would say
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My thoughts exactly:highfive: I smell a troll..
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I've just moved on from my Nexus to an iPhone 5. Best decision of my life!
I love the way I have to use iTunes to move music/videos etc to my phone. And better yet, the range of expensive products you can buy with a special lightning connector (with a name like that it must be fast!) is way better than micro USB.
I recommend this phone to everyone with a crappy Nexus.
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Bye bye

Apologies. I thought I'd add to the stupidity of the post.
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In my opinion, this thread is premature until a new Nexus phone comes out.

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In my opinion, this thread is premature until a new Nexus phone comes out.
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He prematurely threajaculated

What truly is the point of threads like these?
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What truly is the point of threads like these?
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A sticky attempt?

Is iMovedon like the next cool, I don't know, catch phrase?
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Chicaned_UK said:
I've just moved on from my Nexus to an iPhone 5. Best decision of my life!
I love the way I have to use iTunes to move music/videos etc to my phone. And better yet, the range of expensive products you can buy with a special lightning connector (with a name like that it must be fast!) is way better than micro USB.
I recommend this phone to everyone with a crappy Nexus.
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I know what you mean! It has five rows, that is a game changer. The screen is just big enough now for Apple to display all my favorite ads while i browse through my apps and play games. And the maps are so much better now that they got rid of Google. And since Apple also removed the YouTube app and is doing their best to block all forms of YouTube over DLNA, I don't have to worry about watching YouTube videos on the tv. Because why would I want to watch cat videos on a big screen when I've got four inches of the new mother f*cking iPhone in my hand!
I'm not moving on from the Gnex anytime soon. The LGnex is meh imo.

I thought the best feature of iPhone 5 was the capability to set your own mp3's as personal alarms and ringtones. Welcome to 200late apple.
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What truly is the point of threads like these?
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The incredible has this thread.. named different but still the same idea. It let's users know where the devs "if they stop by" are when they decide to move on. Some users get attached to the devs and would like to follow their work.
Other can give good reviews on other phones etc.
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Wouldn't users who are attached / fans of a certain dev send them a pm or twitter/Google + or something. Usually a dev also let's people know the deal in their threads from the older device.
I don't see how a person can be attached so to a dev (s) but yet still not have a clue what they are doing.

lol at trolls. I'm not leaving the gnex anytime soon. I love it. I actually scored another gnex on the cheap to keep as a backup.

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You think you're cool/funny? This only confirms how insecure Android retards are. Android is the only legacy OS remaining when compared to iOS, Windows Mobile, and Blackberry 10.
OMG did someone just make a slightly negative remark towards Android? OMG there's absolutely no way it's true in any way. They must be burned alive.
Edit: I don't plan on leaving my Galaxy Nexus just yet. I've gotten used to the crappy screen, and performance has been great since Jellybean, so I can't complain. I'm looking closely at Blackberry 10 to see if it is worthy of jumping ships when it comes out, but otherwise, my next phone will be the next Nexus (hopefully Sony)
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Chill dude, he was making a joke. I saw nothing insecure in this thread until your post. Heck, nobody made any negative remarks until your post.
Also, how is Android a legacy OS? Are you the same person that thought it was legacy because of Java and wanting to move to BB10 because of that? (I'm guessing yes, you are probably the only one. :laugh To avoid being trollbait, I will just say that you are grossly misinformed about how Java is related to Android. Dalvik VM has little relation with the J2ME used by "legacy" phones (feature/dumb phones).

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Chill dude, he was making a joke. I saw nothing insecure in this thread until your post. Heck, nobody made any negative remarks until your post.
Also, how is Android a legacy OS? Are you the same person that thought it was legacy because of Java and wanting to move to BB10 because of that? (I'm guessing yes, you are probably the only one. :laugh To avoid being trollbait, I will just say that you are grossly misinformed about how Java is related to Android. Dalvik VM has little relation with the J2ME used by "legacy" phones (feature/dumb phones).
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No, I am not. Thanks for assuming though. Whether you like it or not, Native development is better. Android relying so heavily on any virtualization (Dalvik) makes it a legacy OS. I am not misinformed -_-

Turned away from CrApple

My wife loves my GN2 so much that she has abandoned Apple. Shes been with iphone since the first one. We ordered her Note 2 last night. Another iSheep wakes up
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But in all seriousness, I just changed my wife from a Mac addict to an Android lover. She saw my Note2, but couldn't handle the size. (ba dum bump) But she insisted I get her the SGS3. She's in love. Every damn day now it's "omg! I didn't know it could do this!", "did you know there was an app for that!! and a widget! I <3 widgets!!"

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But in all seriousness, I just changed my wife from a Mac addict to an Android lover. She saw my Note2, but couldn't handle the size. (ba dum bump) But she insisted I get her the SGS3. She's in love. Every damn day now it's "omg! I didn't know it could do this!", "did you know there was an app for that!! and a widget! I <3 widgets!!"
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Too funny. I grabbed her the Tmo slider G1. No data on that or the MTouch 3G. Finally after years, she's on sprint with data. She's so cute how excited she is to have a baller phone AND data service.
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kingdazy said:
But in all seriousness, I just changed my wife from a Mac addict to an Android lover. She saw my Note2, but couldn't handle the size. (ba dum bump) But she insisted I get her the SGS3. She's in love. Every damn day now it's "omg! I didn't know it could do this!", "did you know there was an app for that!! and a widget! I <3 widgets!!"
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I love these stories. My next upgrade for my wife will be a Samsung just to see if she likes it. She's on iPhone 4.
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I, nor anyone in my family, will EVER use crApple, but my portfolio sure loves the sheep that follow them blindly!

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I, nor anyone in my family, will EVER use crApple, but my portfolio sure loves the sheep that follow them blindly!
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I agree will my daughter's or I ever use a crapple product
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My fiancée wanted an ifail so badly until i told her I wouldn't b seen with her using that thing...lol.. we both sport the note 2 now...hehehe.. now if only she'd let me root it for her so she can see what it can really do!
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My fiancée wanted an ifail so badly until i told her I wouldn't b seen with her using that thing...lol.. we both sport the note 2 now...hehehe.. now if only she'd let me root it for her so she can see what it can really do!
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My wife won't let me near hers. Lol
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sparytrainor said:
My fiancée wanted an ifail so badly until i told her I wouldn't b seen with her using that thing...lol.. we both sport the note 2 now...hehehe.. now if only she'd let me root it for her so she can see what it can really do!
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The funny thing is, that this phone was already a beast without root. I'm not dissing apple cause it's a great phone but my thing is, there are so many more options.
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I had a friend who was Iphone 5 all the way. He even ran his mouth how dumb of a decision it was. untill i bought it and he couldnt keep his hands off.
its interesting to see how attractive the GN2 is once all the people who down it change once the have it in their hands.
OP root it while she sleeps.

My girl has iphone4 and says she has no special loyalty to Apple so I had her play with my note 2 a bit. The size is way too big for her hands, comical really, but that's no problem there are other great phones.
You know what it came down to? Bejeweled Blitz.
She plays that game constantly and there is no equivalent in the android market.
There are several bejeweled clones and one real bejeweled2 from EA, but it turns out they all suck.
The apple version is perfectly responsive. Every time you touch anything it reacts immediately no matter what else is going on elsewhere on the screen at the same time. But on my phone it won't even register trying to swipe new jewels until the explosion animations from the last move are all done playong out. This is on a note2 that's even somewhat debloated because I deleted all the services and junk for weather, stocks, social integration, allshare, sysscope, smart device manager and touchwiz. There can't possibly be a cpu issue. And this was the real game from EA/PopCap not the small indipendents.
I never play any games so I would never have noticed this. But just watching her try to play a simple game on the supposedly highest end badest badassest uber phone was pretty embarassing.
She actually said it's not necessarily a deal breaker but I believe in quality of life. If that's what she likes and Android can't provide it then that's all there is to it. Guess she gets an iphone 5 even though she lives with an Apple hating unix sys admin.
I actually blame Apple more than Android or the game developers. Apple forces developers to choose only one platform to invest their limited resources by blocking use of cross platform tools, and few developers can really afford to support multiple platforms the hard way without cross platform tools.
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There's nothing wrong with Apple products. They cost more and it's a closed box but it if you download something from the App Store, it works. No force close, no lag, nothing to complain about. The tablet apps are actually designed for tablets and for the most part they get updated with every iteration of iOS.
I love my Note and the Galaxy S2, Thunderbolt and Fascinate that came before it but I've never once got pissed off at an iPhone because the lock screen wouldn't come on without lag or the gallery froze the phone. The gallery in MA7 makes me want to punch a baby in the face.
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crookshanks said:
The gallery in MA7 makes me want to punch a baby in the face.
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Man you got that right. Me too. +1 !
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Actually apps on her phone crash all the time. Depends on the app. We both use a unique app called guidebook. The android version works fine for me on both my ltevo with gb and the note2 with jb, but it crashes constantly on her ip4.
And half of her apps are old because they now require ios5 or later. She's on ios4 so she can't update any of those any more. And she doesn't want to update ios because she has good google maps right now.
The closed nature and vendor lock in and nanny app blocking ultimately causes more problems than it solves. It's ultimately a self-defeating dead end. It's only good for one thing, making a few people money right now. It's bad for both users and developers.
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There's nothing wrong with Apple products. They cost more and it's a closed box but it if you download something from the App Store, it works. No force close, no lag, nothing to complain about. The tablet apps are actually designed for tablets and for the most part they get updated with every iteration of iOS.
I love my Note and the Galaxy S2, Thunderbolt and Fascinate that came before it but I've never once got pissed off at an iPhone because the lock screen wouldn't come on without lag or the gallery froze the phone. The gallery in MA7 makes me want to punch a baby in the face.
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Lol apple has force closes they just dont tell their sheep cuz the assume they are dumb enough if a dialog doesn't show they'll just assume they caused the app to disappear . Theres nothing about apple at all appealing. They steal peoples opensource work close it up rush to grab a baseless patent and then sue the original creators into submission, its pathetic and their business practices are akin to that of organized crime, disgusting really.
I like to break stuff!

Apple v. Android discussions are getting tired. To consider Apple as pure garbage is foolish, and to completely write off Android is just as foolish. Both have their followers for different reasons- who cares?

SComp23 said:
Apple v. Android discussions are getting tired. To consider Apple as pure garbage is foolish, and to completely write off Android is just as foolish. Both have their followers for different reasons- who cares?
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Apples issues have nothing to do with android. Apples issues lie solely on apples shoulders with their crooked business practices. Giving apple your money is no different than giving it to the mob.
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
Apples issues have nothing to do with android. Apples issues lie solely on apples shoulders with their crooked business practices. Giving apple your money is no different than giving it to the mob.
I like to break stuff!
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Yep that's a solid argument.
Please tell me more about how you only support companies with pure business practices. Or perhaps how you speak out about all crooked business practices, and not only Apple.
I would imagine a thorough review of Google and their business practices may enlighten you- but that wouldn't be fun, would it?
FIGHT THE MAN!

It's impossible to avoid patronizing companies run by bad people that do bad things.
It's not imossible to try. It only requires you care.
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KEYofR said:
It's impossible to avoid patronizing companies run by bad people that do bad things.
It's not imossible to try. It only requires you care.
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Then quit being hypocritical- acting like using Android makes you a saint vs. Apple is a joke, plain and simple.
The fact of the matter is current patent law in America is disgusting. Can you blame Apple for exploiting what is terrible law? Absolutely not. Same argument a majority of the people are making against the rich and the current tax code.
Fact of the matter is a majority, if not all, people here are making an argument based solely on emotion. To state it in terms more complex than "Android v. Apple" is, at best, false.
Give it a rest.

SComp23 said:
Yep that's a solid argument.
Please tell me more about how you only support companies with pure business practices. Or perhaps how you speak out about all crooked business practices, and not only Apple.
I would imagine a thorough review of Google and their business practices may enlighten you- but that wouldn't be fun, would it?
FIGHT THE MAN!
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Well most companies don't buy themselves frivolous patents and then use them to sue their competitors into submission. They usually work harder and pay people who have the skills to put them ahead instead of trying to cheat their way to the top. there's a difference between companies cutting costs by outsourcing work and companies cutting costs by stealing the work.
I like to break stuff!