Since I put ics on a nexus s and my epic touch and now a kindle fire it just makes me sad that most of the world has no clue or ever will. By the time we get more pure Google devices they will be on there next version jelly bean. I don't understand why Google bows down to manufacturers. Does Google really need them.
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Since I put ics on a nexus s and my epic touch and now a kindle fire it just makes me sad that most of the world has no clue or ever will. By the time we get more pure Google devices they will be on there next version jelly bean. I don't understand why Google bows down to manufacturers. Does Google really need them.
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This thread is pointless, many devices over the next year will have ice cream sandwiches. Other than the nexus devices we won't see jellybean devices until this time next year, aka a whole year away.
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Since I put ics on a nexus s and my epic touch and now a kindle fire it just makes me sad that most of the world has no clue or ever will. By the time we get more pure Google devices they will be on there next version jelly bean. I don't understand why Google bows down to manufacturers. Does Google really need them.
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Google doesn't bow down. Android is open...simple answer, I know.
They are free to do whatever the hell they want. The only time Google is even allowed to have a say is when it comes to Google Apps. Sure, they could tighten restrictions on what it takes to be qualified to get Google Apps, but, that's starting to looked like a less open and more closed garden...if you will.
Google isn't Jesus, by any stretch...but, in the modern IT/OS/API/Platform/etc/etc/etc world they are by far the most open and agreeable of all the big players. This is one of the unfortunate side effects....or fortunate depending on how you look at it. They allow a manufacturer/reseller to make the OS "their own", encouraging them to release Android devices. That's good....however they also allow a manufacturer/reseller to make the OS "their own", encouraging "fragmentation" and update issues.
I prefer it to the alternative. An authoritarian leadership model that dictates what can and can't be.
...and remember, these manufacturers/resellers are TOTALLY FREE to put out whatever the hell they--or YOU--want.....but if it doesn't meet Google's very livable requirements it doesn't qualify for Google Apps.
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Google officially bought Motorola mobile yesterday i think. They don't need to bow down to anyone anymore lol
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Thanks, I just spit my drink all over my screen....LMFAO
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Google officially bought Motorola mobile yesterday i think. They don't need to bow down to anyone anymore lol
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They still have to stay completely open source for at least 5 years as part of the deal made, theyre still bowing down lol No biggie, I like things the way they are, it's how I got into this community in the first place
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"99% of the world does not know of ics, why?"
Because they don't care.
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"99% of the world does not know of ics, why?"
Because they don't care.
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Very true we are spoiled because of this and other forums bring us together but the hacking community is very small we are the 1% I have talked 10 of my friends to trade in their iPhones for android devices and now I handle everything for their phones. 3 have started to pick up on things but the others are lost and just suggest colors for things I get to it when I can and try to keep them up to date lol but yea point made I hope.
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No because Google borked Ics since launch. Could of had more devices and advertising pure Google. They had plenty of great ads in YouTube never saw them on TV. Then letting Verizon having it exclusive was a real good move.
Can you think of any other software that comes out and doesn't get used for months or even a year. What is really the point of the update if nobody gets it. If you think Google handled this well something is wrong with you.
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Because one of the things that makes android better is the sheer amount of different devices manufacturers out there that causes lots of delays. Apple only worries about 5 different devices while Google has hundreds
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Thank the phone manufacture...
Google doesn't sit down and program all the drivers ect for the phones.
It's my phone...any mis takes...sry
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Because one of the things that makes android better is the sheer amount of different devices manufacturers out there that causes lots of delays. Apple only worries about 5 different devices while Google has hundreds
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if all the android device makers would just use what Google gives them, ICS would be everywhere. But they all need to add their own overlays like Sense, touchwiz, etc. That's what causes the delays, most times. look at all the Chinese tablets out since January with vanilla ICS, other manufacturers could do the same.
Not to mention crap like trying to code for the 3D camera on the EVO3D. That is apparently a ***** to do.
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Since I put ics on a nexus s and my epic touch and now a kindle fire it just makes me sad that most of the world has no clue or ever will. By the time we get more pure Google devices they will be on there next version jelly bean. I don't understand why Google bows down to manufacturers. Does Google really need them.
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Why would it make you sad?
ICS isn't a living being that should be mourned when forgotten.
Jelly Bean is going to be better than ICS, otherwise why would you call it an upgrade?
Tech moves fast. The manufacturers take their time and put their overlays on their devices to give them a different feel so when someone purchases one, they don't feel like they have the same device as everyone else.
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Google doesn't 'bow down' to manufacturers. Android doesn't belong to google, it belongs to the open handset alliance. It's merely backed by google since they are a leading member of the open handset alliance.
They don't bow down to them, if they did; why would there be requirements for a device to be able to be pre installed with Google's apps?
Do they need them? Well, Without manufacturers, you can't make a device.
I like android because of the choice I have in devices, Not like Apple where you get two deviecs.
iPhone or iPad?
I'd rather it be like this than like iOS is.
I'm not an expert on this but I have heard the main complication with getting ICS to the masses has been the massive changes between the GB standard and ICS. For phones they skipped an entire version of code enhancements that were not made available to them; drivers and other pieces of the standard kernel were modified but only tested on the Nexus devices.
So the manufacturer has to take the new kernel, add their modifications back in, make sure they play nice (which doesn't happen even in the desktop world - Windows anyone?) and then start plugging away at each issue until they get to a stable build. Rinse and repeat when it gets to the carrier. You're talking a LOT of hours to get that far and it doesn't come cheap - we haven't even talked about the cost of test devices.
So considering it took roughly 6 months to get a stable build to end users on a non-Nexus device - folks, from my POV we're honestly spoiled.
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Spot on!
I have at least a dozen friends on android phones, and I doubt one of them could tell you what version their phone is running.
Heck, even in my IT/Telecom shop, I doubt more than one or two people could tell what version of Android they are on.
Outside of the modding community, most people not only simply don't know, when brought to their attention, they just don't care.
THEM: Does my Facebook work? Can I send pics and texts. Can I play Draw Something and Angry Birds.
Me: Yes.
Them:Then what does this version you keep asking me about matter...
<rolls eyes>
I think, because we are in the hacking / development world, we look at the next best thing from source as an upgrade. We are aware of what is about to come out from source, etc, but to the rest of the population, they arent keeping tabs on Google, or even the carrier probably. We know ICS is there, so that is the upgrade to us. The rest of the people see an "Upgrade available" on their phone, so that is their upgrade. We get our upgrade when google releases it, they get theirs when the carrier releases it.
My coworker is very loyal to Android but she was not aware of the naming system. She was even more excited because she likes all the desserts they've used.
Related
Curious to see what you all think!
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog/2012/05/where-do-you-think-android-is-heading-to-next/
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Haha, best comment ever.
Asus Padfone is the future of Android.
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Asus Padfone is the future of Android.
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I have to agree with you.
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I remember when android first came out and i was on winmo i hated the look of it. Now i cannot imagine running anything else. As for the future, i see google buying open webos and incorp into android. Id love to see a android desktop os in the future as well.
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I remember when android first came out and i was on winmo i hated the look of it. Now i cannot imagine running anything else. As for the future, i see google buying open webos and incorp into android. Id love to see a android desktop os in the future as well.
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How can you buy open source?
But yeah, we'll probably see a lot of WebOS stuff trickle onto Android (just look at swipe to dismiss). Google just hired the core WebOS team
.. and get sued by HP?
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It's always heading up up up. I've been an advocate since it first started and told everyone iphones would always be too dumbed down and windows and blackberry phones would go down
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hp will put out webos in september and wash their hands of it.
Realistically, the next version will most likely have some desktop mode when plugged into a dock. This is why they bought moto and makes a lot of sense for a few reasons:
1. Lets android compete on a different level than ios or windows phone, allowing it to be your computer and your phone.
2. The hardware is ready there to do this, so it makes sense for them to make the leap now.
3. Instead of competing with toy OS's like ios, wp7, and webos, they would be playing with the big boys (aka, windows). Once your operating system is capable of real productivity, you can sell to the business market, which is huge and has had no competition. since the birth of windows 95.
4. This would require a new peripheral, which would boost sales and further lock people into Google's services.
After paying billions for moto and sitting on them, I can't see any other logical path for them to take.
On a side note, noticed most current phones have a barometer. Any ideas on how this might be used in the future?
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Realistically, the next version will most likely have some desktop mode when plugged into a dock. This is why they bought moto and makes a lot of sense for a few reasons:
1. Lets android compete on a different level than ios or windows phone, allowing it to be your computer and your phone.
2. The hardware is ready there to do this, so it makes sense for them to make the leap now.
3. Instead of competing with toy OS's like ios, wp7, and webos, they would be playing with the big boys (aka, windows). Once your operating system is capable of real productivity, you can sell to the business market, which is huge and has had no competition. since the birth of windows 95.
4. This would require a new peripheral, which would boost sales and further lock people into Google's services.
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It's a novel idea but I doubt they're up to this level yet. If anything I see it coming in later releases. Why do this when they can expand their whole hardware portfolio of selling chromebooks, tablets, etc.? I think that's more important than trying to turn their Android phones into desktop computers.
After paying billions for moto and sitting on them, I can't see any other logical path for them to take.
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Take the large number of valuable patents and sell the failing Motorola hardware business that loses money every quarter.
I want Google to integrate Motorola's hardware business and make awesome "All Google" Nexus devices as much as any other Android fan, but I don't see them doing this, especially not in the short term. They'd be competing directly with the manufacturers they currently license Android to, which isn't a very good business model.
On a side note, noticed most current phones have a barometer. Any ideas on how this might be used in the future?
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It's used to improve GPS accuracy.
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How can you buy open source?
But yeah, we'll probably see a lot of WebOS stuff trickle onto Android (just look at swipe to dismiss). Google just hired the core WebOS team
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The people they hired were mostly web apps people so they will probably work in the Chromebook division of Google
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Where is Android going? Within a few years, the best ever. I'd say by 2016 its going to start becoming old. (Ala Symbian, BB) I hate to say it, but its inevitable. I love Android and hope to god it never goes there.
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Where is Android going? Within a few years, the best ever. I'd say by 2016 its going to start becoming old. (Ala Symbian, BB) I hate to say it, but its inevitable. I love Android and hope to god it never goes there.
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It seems natural to do that. But I don't know of Google would ever let that happen. Same reason why Apple wouldn't let that happen with iOS. I just feel Google has big plans for Android and for it to just be much more than a mobile OS. And plus with every Google service being so tightly integrated into Android it would be too hard for it to fail at this point. Time will tell! But I'm excited like you. And optimistic.
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Where is Android going? Within a few years, the best ever. I'd say by 2016 its going to start becoming old. (Ala Symbian, BB) I hate to say it, but its inevitable. I love Android and hope to god it never goes there.
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yeah of course there will come a time when a better mobile OS comes along. android won't stay on top forever.
Sorry, wrong thread.
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yeah of course there will come a time when a better mobile OS comes along. android won't stay on top forever.
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I used to think the same about google as a search engine, although they've proved me (and everyone) wrong by completely dominating the search engine market since the internet was very young. Google's motivated and has a lot of sway, and unlike most corporations, people really seem to LIKE google! I think if anyone can break the cycle of companies rising and falling, it's them
Android will be around for the time being.
The history is repeating. This is similar how did IBM-compatible PC beat Apple computer by adapting open standard versus propitiatory. Since PC accepts open hardware standard, it has further advantage than Mac.
Android (and Windows Phone 7.x) also accepts open hardware specifications, and the result is we have much wider choice of hardware instead of ONE.
An open os will sell itself. I can not wait to triple boot my pc with android. I would love having the exact same experience from my phone to my pc. And if anyone has the money and time to do it, it is Google.
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Here is the article. I think Apple is going a little over board with the last line of the article.
In its filing, Apple says this list is only "to address a portion of the immediate, ongoing irreparable harm that Apple is suffering."
Ongoing? Irreparable? So I am assuming that Apple thinks everybody that bought a Samsung Galaxy phone thought they were buying the iPhone. I would love to see an estimate as to how many people really thought they were buying an iPhone when none of these phones had "iPhone" "Apple" or the Apple logo on the phone.
Apple targets 8 Samsung phones for sales ban
Might wanna fix the link bro!
But apple is taking it too far and I was reading on Android Central; Samsung looses 12 billion in market value.
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Might wanna fix the link bro!
But apple is taking it too far and I was reading on Android Central; Samsung looses 12 billion in market value.
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I think it's fixed now. But yea. I think Apple is really overdoing it now. And the article states out of 28 devices. So I don't think this is more or less about patents anymore. It's more of Apple wanting to be the only smartphone out there that American people can buy.
they are even suing samsung for making ''rectangular'' phones.
Let them do it. They all are old phones anyway.
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Hahaha Apple is the biggest fu**ing hypocrite ever!!! This is why their products are sh**! & Samsung's are superior! Apple bashes Samsung for copying when they themselves copy everyone else
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I don't necessarily think that apples phones are ****ty. I think they are a good smartphone. Samsung and apple are two very good companies. And apple started by providing a quality phone straight across the board and great customer service. So now Samsung finally caught on to the strategy that was obviously working and decided to do the same in its own way.
Android is the kicker that is scaring apple. Because apple is open source and the open community is doing outstanding things and pushing android past its "boundaries". In return this is what Samsung used to become as important in the smartphone market. We see the same in others. HTC...
So because android and Samsung are such a threat to apple, they decide to sue hoping to destroy Samsung's and slow down the android momentum. But now that Google is involved who happens to be a big bad ass. Apple will ultimately lose or setting to drop charges.
This is definitely a fight that can go both ways. And no doubt we are in to experience and epic dual between Samsung/Google (android in general) and apple.
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I don't necessarily think that apples phones are ****ty. I think they are a good smartphone. Samsung and apple are two very good companies. And apple started by providing a quality phone straight across the board and great customer service. So now Samsung finally caught on to the strategy that was obviously working and decided to do the same in its own way.
Android is the kicker that is scaring apple. Because apple is open source and the open community is doing outstanding things and pushing android past its "boundaries". In return this is what Samsung used to become as important in the smartphone market. We see the same in others. HTC...
So because android and Samsung are such a threat to apple, they decide to sue hoping to destroy Samsung's and slow down the android momentum. But now that Google is involved who happens to be a big bad ass. Apple will ultimately lose or setting to drop charges.
This is definitely a fight that can go both ways. And no doubt we are in to experience and epic dual between Samsung/Google (android in general) and apple.
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Lolol apple will NEVER be open source, Apple's too *****y to do it.
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Apple is definitely taking this a bit too far. Insecurity? Maybe. Though Apple's products so far have been really nice, I find it a little disturbing that a patent for designs can even be issued...that too based on the shape. The monopoly that will (?) follow would not be in favour of the industry nor would it be in favour of the customers.
All old and worthless now.....let em mess with the older ones...
• Galaxy S 4G
• Galaxy S2 AT&T
• Galaxy S2 Skyrocket
• Galaxy S2 T-Mobile
• Galaxy S2 Epic 4G
• Galaxy S Showcase
• Droid Charge
• Galaxy Prevail
Apple is friggin stupid. Talk about monopoly. They tried this crap back in MA Bell days. And look at it today. Keep fighting Samsung, you will win.
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All old and worthless now.....let em mess with the older ones...
• Galaxy S 4G
• Galaxy S2 AT&T
• Galaxy S2 Skyrocket
• Galaxy S2 T-Mobile
• Galaxy S2 Epic 4G
• Galaxy S Showcase
• Droid Charge
• Galaxy Prevail
Apple is friggin stupid. Talk about monopoly. They tried this crap back in MA Bell days. And look at it today. Keep fighting Samsung, you will win.
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Gs2 still sells, this would hurt Samsung as well as carriers
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Gs2 still sells, this would hurt Samsung as well as carriers
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This.
Even though these are no longer premier flagships, the GSII line is still in the upper echelon all things considered.
Though I will admit that the droid charge can be banned from earth as far as that goes.
I am not sure Nazi Apple are targeting Sprints GS2 but I heard rumors that Boost Mobile is going to release that phone for Sprints Prepaid line up.
I was tricked into buying the galaxy s 3 because I thought it was an iPhone
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I would not cry if the prevail was banned as well. A phone with so little usable memory should have never been put on the shelves. Samsung should be taken to court over that phone for stupidity and pay everyone who owned one a full refund...
I was tricked into buying the galaxy s 3 because I thought it was an iPhone
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Just glad our phone isn't on there...
Wow
I've been reading all about this, and I am just APPALLED if I have to pick a word! Apple's mama needs to spank them and put them in time out for acting like a bunch of immature, spoiled, bully brats! These are supposed to be adults, not to mention the smartest on the planet, and their acting like punks! Should Ford sue Chevy for having power windows? Or Guess sue Levi for pockets on the backs of their jeans? Or Nike sue Vans for having shoelaces? (I don't know who made what 1st, but u get it) This is ridiculous! Reminds of the schoolyard bully who wants to beat up that girl because she's prettier! I own both the iPhone and the new SGS3 - had the Vibrant before that, and although they have a similar look with similar features, they are not the same AT ALL, just 2 devices offering consumers variety and companies competition AS IT SHOULD BE! No different than 2 brands of stereos, TVs, washing machines, or anything else. They're just mad because the SGS 3 definitely kicked the iPhone's butt in every way! SO WHAT - Stop cryin, get over it, and go make a better device to compete like everyone else does, ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!! Maybe Nintendo WII should sue them for making the XBOX Kinect, or Sony or whoever made the 1st walkman should sue them for making something you can listen to music on that's portable that you plug headphones into! Jeez people, COME ON!!!! I'm getting rid of my Apple devices promptly, and I don't care if Apple makes a device that makes my money, cooks, washes my dishes, and tucks me in at night - I will NEVER buy from them again, just on principle! I refuse to support a bunch bullying spoiled BRATS that are showing my kids the exact behavior that I have always tried to tell them is NEVER OK and will not be tolerated! I still can't believe anyone is condoning this crap! Unbelievable!
People put it to Apple with your wallet. I used to buy all kinds of apple products but stopped two years ago as I do not agree with their business practices. I encourage you to do the same if you feel likewise.
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People put it to Apple with your wallet. I used to buy all kinds of apple products but stopped two years ago as I do not agree with their business practices. I encourage you to do the same if you feel likewise.
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Well put crayzeeteri, well put. Microsoft did it because they had no competition, big bullies back in the day, similar with this Apple crap.
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Well put crayzeeteri, well put. Microsoft did it because they had no competition, big bullies back in the day, similar with this Apple crap.
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Well thank ya! Kinda got a lil wordy, maybe a bit carried away Really won't hurt me at all, I just got a lil heated over the fact that they can get away with it and that our justice system is actually that retarted that they would rule in favor and therefore tell the world this is bs acceptable. On a side note, y'all ever seen the LG Prada?(pic below) It came out long before iPhone....hmmmm....look familiar? Just thought it was funny considering a huge part of their ***** - sorry, "case" was the shape/look. LOL! Now I'd actually LMFAO if LG turned around n sued them! Just to make a point!
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Well thank ya! Kinda got a lil wordy, maybe a bit carried away Really won't hurt me at all, I just got a lil heated over the fact that they can get away with it and that our justice system is actually that retarted that they would rule in favor and therefore tell the world this is bs acceptable. On a side note, y'all ever seen the LG Prada?(pic below) It came out long before iPhone....hmmmm....look familiar? Just thought it was funny considering a huge part of their ***** - sorry, "case" was the shape/look. LOL! Now I'd actually LMFAO if LG turned around n sued them! Just to make a point!
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HEHE I sold my iPad this morning (after reading your post lastnight) to a co-worker here, and agree, I will NEVER buy an apple product again. Got me some spending money, now I am going to buy the wife a Galaxy S3 to. This is her lucky day....
I need a good video showing side-by-side comparison of the iPhone5 and SGSIII Benchmark test.
Thanks!
You probably couldn't swing a bag of dead cats without hitting a fanboy somewhere. Get one of them to put it next to your GS3 and a thrid phone to film it.
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I need a good video showing side-by-side comparison of the iPhone5 and SGSIII Benchmark test.
Thanks!
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Just wait, it will popup on YouTube.
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saw one on youtube earlier and the gs3 won with like a 1688 score i am going to try and find it again
IPhone better
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5TQbA_JMpo&feature=g-all-u galaxy s3 still the king
Here's your answer in real work performance http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nf5-Prx19ZM
Really?
http://www.todaysiphone.com/2012/09/iphone-5-benchmarks-published-fastest-phone-on-the-planet/
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Really?
http://www.todaysiphone.com/2012/09/iphone-5-benchmarks-published-fastest-phone-on-the-planet/
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Its been proven that geekbench 2 score is false the real one put the s3 at like 1628 which was higher then the iphone 5
And even if the iphone 5 was faster i still can do 3x as much on my s3
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Its been proven that geekbench 2 score is false the real one put the s3 at like 1628 which was higher then the iphone 5
And even if the iphone 5 was faster i still can do 3x as much on my s3
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I thought that's what I read but I can't seem to find it, anyone have the link by any chance?
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I have and iPhone 5 with me got it yesterday... Unlike most people I like to test devices before judging, phone is great... Good upgrade from 4 not 4S(had both) feel amazing on the hand and weird the long screen really sucks for most apps the haven't been updated.. Typing takes me forever thanks to the small screen... Hardware wise this phones is great! Software even tho it got amazing games and apps it just needs a revamp! Apple should have take chances and make really differences to the OS but guess they wanted to keep it safe... It will sell good for sure... The one thing android needs is cloud backup it was really good to restore my cloud iPhone 4s backup, every app log in with all my stats and what not but at the end in staying with the gs3 as my daily driver. The one thing my gs3 needs is better stand by time for sure but I order extra battery for now
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From the verge review is exactly how I feel
" Maybe you'll call me an Android fanboy for saying this, or maybe it's because much of my business utilizes Google apps and its communication tools, but it didn't take me very long with the iPhone 5 to start thinking about getting back to the Galaxy Nexus and Jelly Bean (Android 4.1). For what I do, I think it's a more effective, more elegant, and more powerful OS right now. What it may lack in polish and consistency, it makes up for in power and flexibility."
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I have and iPhone 5 with me got it yesterday... Unlike most people I like to test devices before judging, phone is great... Good upgrade from 4 not 4S(had both) feel amazing on the hand and weird the long screen really sucks for most apps the haven't been updated.. Typing takes me forever thanks to the small screen... Hardware wise this phones is great! Software even tho it got amazing games and apps it just needs a revamp! Apple should have take chances and make really differences to the OS but guess they wanted to keep it safe... It will sell good for sure... The one thing android needs is cloud backup it was really good to restore my cloud iPhone 4s backup, every app log in with all my stats and what not but at the end in staying with the gs3 as my daily driver. The one thing my gs3 needs is better stand by time for sure but I order extra battery for now
And benchmarks don't mean anything if that phone can't do what you wanted to do... Btw I used to be flasher and all but got tired of it. My gs3 is back to stock and running good not hiccups
From the verge review is exactly how I feel
" Maybe you'll call me an Android fanboy for saying this, or maybe it's because much of my business utilizes Google apps and its communication tools, but it didn't take me very long with the iPhone 5 to start thinking about getting back to the Galaxy Nexus and Jelly Bean (Android 4.1). For what I do, I think it's a more effective, more elegant, and more powerful OS right now. What it may lack in polish and consistency, it makes up for in power and flexibility."
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Nice honest, unbiase review I must say. Those are hard to come by.
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I got my iPhone 5 on Friday & i love it.. I've had a Samsung intercept, Motorola triumph, S2 and a S3. I never could say i love them. I watch Android advance from 2.1 to 4.1 & it was fun flashing roms & tweaking them. I'm now a senior in high school taking college classes I just don't have the time anymore. When i got the iPhone it just worked with no bloatware & so many things bugging down the phone.
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This is stock non rooted h2
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I got my iPhone 5 on Friday & i love it.. I've had a Samsung intercept, Motorola triumph, S2 and a S3. I never could say i love them. I watch Android advance from 2.1 to 4.1 & it was fun flashing roms & tweaking them. I'm now a senior in high school taking college classes I just don't have the time anymore. When i got the iPhone it just worked with no bloatware & so many things bugging down the phone.
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Dude, that is great for you. But I don't think anybody cares if you don't like Android anymore because you are too busy. Most people on these forums don't really care about build quality or specs of a phone. They like the openness of Android and like making there phone unique with customization. Many people here love to code, make apps and improve source code. Obviously they can't do that with an iPhone, much less get their app approved for the app store.
All you ever talk about is the iPhone and bash Android on a android developer forum. Just by the phones you said you had, I can say you've never experienced a pure Android experience such as the Nexus phones which also just works and has no bloatware. Why don't you go to an iPhone forum and talk about how polished and great your new iPhone is.
Fanboys from either side will never understand why others love the OS they choose. Personally iPhone is a great phone and they have great customer service. The phone is simple and just works like you said but I don't like the iPhone because I like choice. Android may not be the best or most consistent OS out there but I love the hardware features that come with Android phones such as NFC and more because we as a community here at xda-developers are able to make the experience better for ourselves and others that like openness.
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Dude, that is great for you. But I don't think anybody cares if you don't like Android anymore because you are too busy. Most people on these forums don't really care about build quality or specs of a phone. They like the openness of Android and like making there phone unique with customization. Many people here love to code, make apps and improve source code. Obviously they can't do that with an iPhone, much less get their app approved for the app store.
All you ever talk about is the iPhone and bash Android on a android developer forum. Just by the phones you said you had, I can say you've never experienced a pure Android experience such as the Nexus phones which also just works and has no bloatware. Why don't you go to an iPhone forum and talk about how polished and great your new iPhone is.
Fanboys from either side will never understand why others love the OS they choose. Personally iPhone is a great phone and they have great customer service. The phone is simple and just works like you said but I don't like the iPhone because I like choice. Android may not be the best or most consistent OS out there but I love the hardware features that come with Android phones such as NFC and more because we as a community here at xda-developers are able to make the experience better for ourselves and others that like openness.
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Tough crowd. I personally didn't find his post insulting. However, I wouldn't ever post stuff on an Iphone forum about android. But again I'm not 20 years old. I think we need to be understanding of other peoples opinions regardless.
I will admit, I was one of the dickheads that bought and Iphone 1 on the first day and I loved them for a long time. I just didn't want to be a lemming any longer. And once I started flashing roms I am just hooked on messing with my phones. This is the main reason I don't buy HTC's any longer.
I did my own comparison using my s3 and iphone 5 the s3 smoked it browsing speed and all
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In what dimension do you live in????
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It's strange how your username is "iloveandroid16"...
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Dude, that is great for you. But I don't think anybody cares if you don't like Android anymore because you are too busy. Most people on these forums don't really care about build quality or specs of a phone. They like the openness of Android and like making there phone unique with customization. Many people here love to code, make apps and improve source code. Obviously they can't do that with an iPhone, much less get their app approved for the app store.
All you ever talk about is the iPhone and bash Android on a android developer forum. Just by the phones you said you had, I can say you've never experienced a pure Android experience such as the Nexus phones which also just works and has no bloatware. Why don't you go to an iPhone forum and talk about how polished and great your new iPhone is.
Fanboys from either side will never understand why others love the OS they choose. Personally iPhone is a great phone and they have great customer service. The phone is simple and just works like you said but I don't like the iPhone because I like choice. Android may not be the best or most consistent OS out there but I love the hardware features that come with Android phones such as NFC and more because we as a community here at xda-developers are able to make the experience better for ourselves and others that like openness.
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Trust me, if you have ever seen his past posts in other threads, you'll be glad he switched over to the iPhone lol! Let's be happy and cheer him on over there lol!
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Subscribe to this thread to keep track of who is leaving the Galaxy Nexus and which phone they will be moving on to. Maybe some of the developers will also make a stop here. Feel free to thank however you want.
This thread will keep the General section free of clutter.
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Sold my Nexus a day before yesterday for PKR 33,000 (about $340, yes they are expensive in Pakistan). Now waiting for the next Nexus to launch and then I'll upgrade. Meanwhile rocking an old Nokia dumb phone.
Once a Nexus, always a Nexus. All thanks to the awesome devs here.
I've just moved on from my Nexus to an iPhone 5. Best decision of my life!
I love the way I have to use iTunes to move music/videos etc to my phone. And better yet, the range of expensive products you can buy with a special lightning connector (with a name like that it must be fast!) is way better than micro USB.
I recommend this phone to everyone with a crappy Nexus.
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I've just moved on from my Nexus to an iPhone 5. Best decision of my life!
I love the way I have to use iTunes to move music/videos etc to my phone. And better yet, the range of expensive products you can buy with a special lightning connector (with a name like that it must be fast!) is way better than micro USB.
I recommend this phone to everyone with a crappy Nexus.
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Can't tell if serious or troll...
That's exactly what an iPhone user would say, but also something someone trolling would say
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I've just moved on from my Nexus to an iPhone 5. Best decision of my life!
I love the way I have to use iTunes to move music/videos etc to my phone. And better yet, the range of expensive products you can buy with a special lightning connector (with a name like that it must be fast!) is way better than micro USB.
I recommend this phone to everyone with a crappy Nexus.
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You think you're cool/funny? This only confirms how insecure Android retards are. Android is the only legacy OS remaining when compared to iOS, Windows Mobile, and Blackberry 10.
OMG did someone just make a slightly negative remark towards Android? OMG there's absolutely no way it's true in any way. They must be burned alive.
Edit: I don't plan on leaving my Galaxy Nexus just yet. I've gotten used to the crappy screen, and performance has been great since Jellybean, so I can't complain. I'm looking closely at Blackberry 10 to see if it is worthy of jumping ships when it comes out, but otherwise, my next phone will be the next Nexus (hopefully Sony)
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Can't tell if serious or troll...
That's exactly what an iPhone user would say, but also something someone trolling would say
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My thoughts exactly:highfive: I smell a troll..
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Chicaned_UK said:
I've just moved on from my Nexus to an iPhone 5. Best decision of my life!
I love the way I have to use iTunes to move music/videos etc to my phone. And better yet, the range of expensive products you can buy with a special lightning connector (with a name like that it must be fast!) is way better than micro USB.
I recommend this phone to everyone with a crappy Nexus.
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Bye bye
Apologies. I thought I'd add to the stupidity of the post.
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In my opinion, this thread is premature until a new Nexus phone comes out.
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In my opinion, this thread is premature until a new Nexus phone comes out.
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He prematurely threajaculated
What truly is the point of threads like these?
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What truly is the point of threads like these?
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A sticky attempt?
Is iMovedon like the next cool, I don't know, catch phrase?
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Chicaned_UK said:
I've just moved on from my Nexus to an iPhone 5. Best decision of my life!
I love the way I have to use iTunes to move music/videos etc to my phone. And better yet, the range of expensive products you can buy with a special lightning connector (with a name like that it must be fast!) is way better than micro USB.
I recommend this phone to everyone with a crappy Nexus.
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I know what you mean! It has five rows, that is a game changer. The screen is just big enough now for Apple to display all my favorite ads while i browse through my apps and play games. And the maps are so much better now that they got rid of Google. And since Apple also removed the YouTube app and is doing their best to block all forms of YouTube over DLNA, I don't have to worry about watching YouTube videos on the tv. Because why would I want to watch cat videos on a big screen when I've got four inches of the new mother f*cking iPhone in my hand!
I'm not moving on from the Gnex anytime soon. The LGnex is meh imo.
I thought the best feature of iPhone 5 was the capability to set your own mp3's as personal alarms and ringtones. Welcome to 200late apple.
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What truly is the point of threads like these?
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The incredible has this thread.. named different but still the same idea. It let's users know where the devs "if they stop by" are when they decide to move on. Some users get attached to the devs and would like to follow their work.
Other can give good reviews on other phones etc.
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Wouldn't users who are attached / fans of a certain dev send them a pm or twitter/Google + or something. Usually a dev also let's people know the deal in their threads from the older device.
I don't see how a person can be attached so to a dev (s) but yet still not have a clue what they are doing.
lol at trolls. I'm not leaving the gnex anytime soon. I love it. I actually scored another gnex on the cheap to keep as a backup.
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You think you're cool/funny? This only confirms how insecure Android retards are. Android is the only legacy OS remaining when compared to iOS, Windows Mobile, and Blackberry 10.
OMG did someone just make a slightly negative remark towards Android? OMG there's absolutely no way it's true in any way. They must be burned alive.
Edit: I don't plan on leaving my Galaxy Nexus just yet. I've gotten used to the crappy screen, and performance has been great since Jellybean, so I can't complain. I'm looking closely at Blackberry 10 to see if it is worthy of jumping ships when it comes out, but otherwise, my next phone will be the next Nexus (hopefully Sony)
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Chill dude, he was making a joke. I saw nothing insecure in this thread until your post. Heck, nobody made any negative remarks until your post.
Also, how is Android a legacy OS? Are you the same person that thought it was legacy because of Java and wanting to move to BB10 because of that? (I'm guessing yes, you are probably the only one. :laugh To avoid being trollbait, I will just say that you are grossly misinformed about how Java is related to Android. Dalvik VM has little relation with the J2ME used by "legacy" phones (feature/dumb phones).
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Chill dude, he was making a joke. I saw nothing insecure in this thread until your post. Heck, nobody made any negative remarks until your post.
Also, how is Android a legacy OS? Are you the same person that thought it was legacy because of Java and wanting to move to BB10 because of that? (I'm guessing yes, you are probably the only one. :laugh To avoid being trollbait, I will just say that you are grossly misinformed about how Java is related to Android. Dalvik VM has little relation with the J2ME used by "legacy" phones (feature/dumb phones).
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No, I am not. Thanks for assuming though. Whether you like it or not, Native development is better. Android relying so heavily on any virtualization (Dalvik) makes it a legacy OS. I am not misinformed -_-
My wife loves my GN2 so much that she has abandoned Apple. Shes been with iphone since the first one. We ordered her Note 2 last night. Another iSheep wakes up
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But in all seriousness, I just changed my wife from a Mac addict to an Android lover. She saw my Note2, but couldn't handle the size. (ba dum bump) But she insisted I get her the SGS3. She's in love. Every damn day now it's "omg! I didn't know it could do this!", "did you know there was an app for that!! and a widget! I <3 widgets!!"
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But in all seriousness, I just changed my wife from a Mac addict to an Android lover. She saw my Note2, but couldn't handle the size. (ba dum bump) But she insisted I get her the SGS3. She's in love. Every damn day now it's "omg! I didn't know it could do this!", "did you know there was an app for that!! and a widget! I <3 widgets!!"
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Too funny. I grabbed her the Tmo slider G1. No data on that or the MTouch 3G. Finally after years, she's on sprint with data. She's so cute how excited she is to have a baller phone AND data service.
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kingdazy said:
But in all seriousness, I just changed my wife from a Mac addict to an Android lover. She saw my Note2, but couldn't handle the size. (ba dum bump) But she insisted I get her the SGS3. She's in love. Every damn day now it's "omg! I didn't know it could do this!", "did you know there was an app for that!! and a widget! I <3 widgets!!"
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I love these stories. My next upgrade for my wife will be a Samsung just to see if she likes it. She's on iPhone 4.
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I, nor anyone in my family, will EVER use crApple, but my portfolio sure loves the sheep that follow them blindly!
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I, nor anyone in my family, will EVER use crApple, but my portfolio sure loves the sheep that follow them blindly!
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I agree will my daughter's or I ever use a crapple product
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My fiancée wanted an ifail so badly until i told her I wouldn't b seen with her using that thing...lol.. we both sport the note 2 now...hehehe.. now if only she'd let me root it for her so she can see what it can really do!
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My fiancée wanted an ifail so badly until i told her I wouldn't b seen with her using that thing...lol.. we both sport the note 2 now...hehehe.. now if only she'd let me root it for her so she can see what it can really do!
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My wife won't let me near hers. Lol
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sparytrainor said:
My fiancée wanted an ifail so badly until i told her I wouldn't b seen with her using that thing...lol.. we both sport the note 2 now...hehehe.. now if only she'd let me root it for her so she can see what it can really do!
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The funny thing is, that this phone was already a beast without root. I'm not dissing apple cause it's a great phone but my thing is, there are so many more options.
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I had a friend who was Iphone 5 all the way. He even ran his mouth how dumb of a decision it was. untill i bought it and he couldnt keep his hands off.
its interesting to see how attractive the GN2 is once all the people who down it change once the have it in their hands.
OP root it while she sleeps.
My girl has iphone4 and says she has no special loyalty to Apple so I had her play with my note 2 a bit. The size is way too big for her hands, comical really, but that's no problem there are other great phones.
You know what it came down to? Bejeweled Blitz.
She plays that game constantly and there is no equivalent in the android market.
There are several bejeweled clones and one real bejeweled2 from EA, but it turns out they all suck.
The apple version is perfectly responsive. Every time you touch anything it reacts immediately no matter what else is going on elsewhere on the screen at the same time. But on my phone it won't even register trying to swipe new jewels until the explosion animations from the last move are all done playong out. This is on a note2 that's even somewhat debloated because I deleted all the services and junk for weather, stocks, social integration, allshare, sysscope, smart device manager and touchwiz. There can't possibly be a cpu issue. And this was the real game from EA/PopCap not the small indipendents.
I never play any games so I would never have noticed this. But just watching her try to play a simple game on the supposedly highest end badest badassest uber phone was pretty embarassing.
She actually said it's not necessarily a deal breaker but I believe in quality of life. If that's what she likes and Android can't provide it then that's all there is to it. Guess she gets an iphone 5 even though she lives with an Apple hating unix sys admin.
I actually blame Apple more than Android or the game developers. Apple forces developers to choose only one platform to invest their limited resources by blocking use of cross platform tools, and few developers can really afford to support multiple platforms the hard way without cross platform tools.
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There's nothing wrong with Apple products. They cost more and it's a closed box but it if you download something from the App Store, it works. No force close, no lag, nothing to complain about. The tablet apps are actually designed for tablets and for the most part they get updated with every iteration of iOS.
I love my Note and the Galaxy S2, Thunderbolt and Fascinate that came before it but I've never once got pissed off at an iPhone because the lock screen wouldn't come on without lag or the gallery froze the phone. The gallery in MA7 makes me want to punch a baby in the face.
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The gallery in MA7 makes me want to punch a baby in the face.
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Man you got that right. Me too. +1 !
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Actually apps on her phone crash all the time. Depends on the app. We both use a unique app called guidebook. The android version works fine for me on both my ltevo with gb and the note2 with jb, but it crashes constantly on her ip4.
And half of her apps are old because they now require ios5 or later. She's on ios4 so she can't update any of those any more. And she doesn't want to update ios because she has good google maps right now.
The closed nature and vendor lock in and nanny app blocking ultimately causes more problems than it solves. It's ultimately a self-defeating dead end. It's only good for one thing, making a few people money right now. It's bad for both users and developers.
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There's nothing wrong with Apple products. They cost more and it's a closed box but it if you download something from the App Store, it works. No force close, no lag, nothing to complain about. The tablet apps are actually designed for tablets and for the most part they get updated with every iteration of iOS.
I love my Note and the Galaxy S2, Thunderbolt and Fascinate that came before it but I've never once got pissed off at an iPhone because the lock screen wouldn't come on without lag or the gallery froze the phone. The gallery in MA7 makes me want to punch a baby in the face.
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Lol apple has force closes they just dont tell their sheep cuz the assume they are dumb enough if a dialog doesn't show they'll just assume they caused the app to disappear . Theres nothing about apple at all appealing. They steal peoples opensource work close it up rush to grab a baseless patent and then sue the original creators into submission, its pathetic and their business practices are akin to that of organized crime, disgusting really.
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Apple v. Android discussions are getting tired. To consider Apple as pure garbage is foolish, and to completely write off Android is just as foolish. Both have their followers for different reasons- who cares?
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Apple v. Android discussions are getting tired. To consider Apple as pure garbage is foolish, and to completely write off Android is just as foolish. Both have their followers for different reasons- who cares?
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Apples issues have nothing to do with android. Apples issues lie solely on apples shoulders with their crooked business practices. Giving apple your money is no different than giving it to the mob.
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Apples issues have nothing to do with android. Apples issues lie solely on apples shoulders with their crooked business practices. Giving apple your money is no different than giving it to the mob.
I like to break stuff!
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Yep that's a solid argument.
Please tell me more about how you only support companies with pure business practices. Or perhaps how you speak out about all crooked business practices, and not only Apple.
I would imagine a thorough review of Google and their business practices may enlighten you- but that wouldn't be fun, would it?
FIGHT THE MAN!
It's impossible to avoid patronizing companies run by bad people that do bad things.
It's not imossible to try. It only requires you care.
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It's impossible to avoid patronizing companies run by bad people that do bad things.
It's not imossible to try. It only requires you care.
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Then quit being hypocritical- acting like using Android makes you a saint vs. Apple is a joke, plain and simple.
The fact of the matter is current patent law in America is disgusting. Can you blame Apple for exploiting what is terrible law? Absolutely not. Same argument a majority of the people are making against the rich and the current tax code.
Fact of the matter is a majority, if not all, people here are making an argument based solely on emotion. To state it in terms more complex than "Android v. Apple" is, at best, false.
Give it a rest.
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Yep that's a solid argument.
Please tell me more about how you only support companies with pure business practices. Or perhaps how you speak out about all crooked business practices, and not only Apple.
I would imagine a thorough review of Google and their business practices may enlighten you- but that wouldn't be fun, would it?
FIGHT THE MAN!
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Well most companies don't buy themselves frivolous patents and then use them to sue their competitors into submission. They usually work harder and pay people who have the skills to put them ahead instead of trying to cheat their way to the top. there's a difference between companies cutting costs by outsourcing work and companies cutting costs by stealing the work.
I like to break stuff!