Hey all,
I wasn't able to find any conclusive details regarding this topic, maybe you guys can shed some light for me:
In the hidden HTC powersaver options for the HOX, we have the option to use "Reduce CPU speed"- which is set to 'on' by default and its function being explained as then only using a single cpu core and reducing the speed to 1Ghz.
Even though the explanation is rather straight forward I'd like to know exactly what this option does.
Does that mean the CPU is throttled for 'normal use' like browsing, using simple apps, (...) only and is being reverted to its full capacity when (eg) playing games? Or in other words, where exactly is the threshold here?
I find my HOX a lot smoother in response (ie scrolling, surfing) when de-activating this option but battery drain also seems to go way up.
Thanks guys.
Murdock80 said:
Hey all,
I wasn't able to find any conclusive details regarding this topic, maybe you guys can shed some light for me:
In the hidden HTC powersaver options for the HOX, we have the option to use "Reduce CPU speed"- which is set to 'on' by default and its function being explained as then only using a single cpu core and reducing the speed to 1Ghz.
Even though the explanation is rather straight forward I'd like to know exactly what this option does.
Does that mean the CPU is throttled for 'normal use' like browsing, using simple apps, (...) only and is being reverted to its full capacity when (eg) playing games? Or in other words, where exactly is the threshold here?
I find my HOX a lot smoother in response (ie scrolling, surfing) when de-activating this option but battery drain also seems to go way up.
Thanks guys.
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When battery is below 30%, speed is capped to 1Ghz single core with UI at 30fps
kryptoner said:
When battery is below 30%, speed is capped to 1Ghz single core with UI at 30fps
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Alright, did not realise those options only applied to the system when battery is below 30%.
Thanks for the quick reply mate!
Murdock80 said:
Hey all,
I wasn't able to find any conclusive details regarding this topic, maybe you guys can shed some light for me:
In the hidden HTC powersaver options for the HOX, we have the option to use "Reduce CPU speed"- which is set to 'on' by default and its function being explained as then only using a single cpu core and reducing the speed to 1Ghz.
Even though the explanation is rather straight forward I'd like to know exactly what this option does.
Does that mean the CPU is throttled for 'normal use' like browsing, using simple apps, (...) only and is being reverted to its full capacity when (eg) playing games? Or in other words, where exactly is the threshold here?
I find my HOX a lot smoother in response (ie scrolling, surfing) when de-activating this option but battery drain also seems to go way up.
Thanks guys.
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where is this option in HOX?
Best regards,
Deependra
dtandukar said:
where is this option in HOX?
Best regards,
Deependra
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Its hidden in the settings, you can access it through downloading Minimalistic Text in the play store then set up a temporary widget that leads to settings under activities and search for power saver settings. Then just tap on the widget and it should lead you directly there/
leking19 said:
Its hidden in the settings, you can access it through downloading Minimalistic Text in the play store then set up a temporary widget that leads to settings under activities and search for power saver settings. Then just tap on the widget and it should lead you directly there/
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simpler way is to download an app called 'hidden settings' from play store
kryptoner said:
simpler way is to download an app called 'hidden settings' from play store
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^^ thanks!
Are all of these options on this tab only effective on a battery lower than 30% because some of them say that the data conection is only on with the screen on..
And If it's only on a lower 30% battery I will leave them on otherwise I will just turn them of.
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Well i already tried speeding up my HERO by following the steps from another thread here in the forum and it just didn't work for me.
So Heres what i Tried and it just seems to work out for me! And its very simple too.
THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT: DOWNLOAD "OVERCLOCKWIDGET" FROM THE MARKET AND SET THE MIN MHZ TO (128000) AND MAX TO (528000) MHZ. THIS SHOULD HELP KEEP THINGS RUNNING SMOOTH.
^^^^Also from the settings of "OverClock Widget" you can set the MHZ Frequencies while the screen if off to the a low but not so low Frequencies in order to save battery!
So if your like me and like to have a lot of widgets on your phone then Using Task manager to kill certain apps might just do the trick....
First of all never end applications such as
com.htc.socialnetwork.provider
com.htc.provder.weather
HTC media uploader
Touch input
HTC Location Service
and more! They do not have an icon if your using "advance task Manager" All other apps are good to end such as music,peep,market, Messages,Mail, Google Mail, and of course Browser which uses a lot of memory.
Give it a try and let me know how it goes...
Heres the link to a video i made to show the performance of my HTC Hero!
Not the best quality.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3BrCmWXwhQ
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Thats the way i do it to.
But i also noticed, that some widgets uses more battery than others. After i removed quick calender and digital clock, i got better battery performance. That might also have some effects on the processing power
I tried this...
This afternoon and so far this morning the Hero is far more responsive after I wake it up (which was when it was at its most laggy).
I can now immediately slide around the home screens. Before I had to wait a few seconds or suffer ignored screen swipes.
I was not using the Stocks app or widget but it was set to auto update so set it to never update.
Maybe its a process that runs regardless of whether you use the app or widget ??
Know what I think might work? An app that reboots the phone.
User selects frequency of reboot (daily? every 2 days? every week?)
User selects time of reboot (12 midnight? 3 am?)
User defines Countdown period (15 seconds? 30 seconds? 1 minute?)
At the user-defined time, the app will run itself, and prompt the user "Reboot Now?". A countdown timer will start.
User can select 'Later', 'In 10 minutes', or if there is no interaction/input, when countdown reaches 0, the app will reboot the phone automatically.
This way, users will always wake up to a 'fresh' phone. What do you guys think?
Rebooting the device won't make it faster. On the contrary you have to start every apps for the first time so it takes more time.
You'd better leave it on and turn to airplane mode when you don't need it.
piflechien said:
Rebooting the device won't make it faster. On the contrary you have to start every apps for the first time so it takes more time.
You'd better leave it on and turn to airplane mode when you don't need it.
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Tell that to my phone. It's back to it's zippy self after a reboot, and only slows down after I run Maps, Browser, Google Talk, Market and HTC Mail
joemax said:
I tried this...
This afternoon and so far this morning the Hero is far more responsive after I wake it up (which was when it was at its most laggy).
I can now immediately slide around the home screens. Before I had to wait a few seconds or suffer ignored screen swipes.
I was not using the Stocks app or widget but it was set to auto update so set it to never update.
Maybe its a process that runs regardless of whether you use the app or widget ??
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Well im glad to know it works not only for me but for other people Too!
minogue said:
Well i already tried speeding up my HERO by following the steps from another thread here in the forum and it just didn't work for me.
So Heres what i Tried and it just seems to work out for me! And its very simple too.
So if your like me and like to have a lot of widgets on your phone then Using Task manager to kill certain apps might just do the trick....
First of all never end applications such as
com.htc.socialnetworl.provider
com.htc.provder.weather
HTC media uploader
Touch input and more! They do not have an icon if your using "advance task Manager" All other apps are good to end such as music,peep, market and of course Browser which uses a lot of ram.....
Give it a try and let me know how it goes...
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Could you be more detailed about what process must be excluded from closing?
com.htc.socialnetworl.provider
com.htc.provder.weather
HTC media uploader
Touch input
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THX!
@Asci
Thread updated with latest Info!
I think clock should also be spared of killing, as if I recall correctly, something bad could happen to set alarms (not setting off, volume too low etc.)!
Hi guys, need some help.
i've just rooted my Hero thanks to this article http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=543571 and Quick Boot (which needs root) now works perfectly.
After i've installed overclockwidget i cannot start it as it gives me an error "Star-up error - cannot start Overclockwidget (need Root)".
Any ideas?
thanks in advance.
Surely increasing the CPU speed will also increase battery drain ?
Its also likely to lead to instability and additional heat (Hero gets hot enough when working hard).
Personally I would be wary of doing this.
I have no real issues with battery drainage after tweaking the processor speed; lasts about the same as it would w/out the tweaks.
I do see some minor performance improvements, but on the flip-side, the phone can also get sluggish at times upon waking it up from sleep.
I'm confused, my hero runs at 528 stock o_o
seshmaru said:
I'm confused, my hero runs at 528 stock o_o
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wrong.. the proccesor was underclocked just like with the HTC Magic and the T-mobile G1
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wrong.. the proccesor was underclocked just like with the HTC Magic and the T-mobile G1
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wrong, mine runs at 528 MHz, and I haven't overclocked it
I can confirm that mine shows 526 (the widget number) as well out of the box. And changing the settings doesn't appear to do anything. It's always returning to 480Mhz - 528Mhz when I restart the app / widget. I've tried this both with SetCPU and OverClock Widget.
The Hero (at least some Heroes) seems to be immune to fiddling with the cpu. And I am sure I'm rooted, because I enabled paid apps in Android Market with MarketEnabler and that's working.
MarketEnabler didn't work out of the box tho - because it had a script that relied on Grep and Grep isn't installed, so I had to empty the AndroidMarket cache by hand from the terminal... Maybe there's something similar preventing fiddling with the cpu speeds?
I finally got srf 1.2 to work really good. I have a few questions about voltage control.
1. Is it safe to overclock and undervolt?
2. What advantages will I see from undervolting, longer battery life?
3. Does overclocking really make that much difference, and is it safe?
4. Is there a how to, or a guide that can show me how to do it?
Thanks
Yes its safe just don't use the set on boot feature. As for battery improvement some people notice a difference and others don't I personally do undervolt. As for the guide just mess around with it for a while everyone Has different Preferences so results will always be different. I don't undervolt below 75 cause when I do I get lock ups. If you lock up just pull the battery and you'll be fine. I also recommend to use journaling ON cause if you lock up and pull the battery with journaling off you might get data corruption.
Hope this helps.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App
Yeah that helped but I really just don't know how to use it.
Led4lyf said:
I finally got srf 1.2 to work really good. I have a few questions about voltage control.
1. Is it safe to overclock and undervolt?
2. What advantages will I see from undervolting, longer battery life?
3. Does overclocking really make that much difference, and is it safe?
4. Is there a how to, or a guide that can show me how to do it?
Thanks
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What kernel are you on?
I'm on Twilight and can overclock to 1.3ghz with full stability. I don't undervolt. Combination of my phone doesn't like it and I'm not looking to save that little battery to get wakelocks (phone doesn't come out of sleep mode because the processor speed is too slow or doesn't have enough juice to make that push.)
If you're using a kernel that can go to 1.4 or 1.5 test it for a while before you save your settings. Also consider buying the paid version. It allows over volting which may allow you to supply enough power if 1.4 or 1.5 causes freezes.
The app is pretty basic. The top bar on the first screen is how low you allow the processor to go in speed. The bottom is how fast. Lower than 100 mhz causes wakelock for me. Or used to. Haven't tried since. My settings are 200-1300 mhz. Second page is voltages. They start at default. If you have extreme, moving them to the right will overvolt and give those speeds extra power. Moving the slider to the left undervolts. Some people can only undervolt at the lowest speeds of say 100-400 mhz. It's a lot of trial and error. Have fun though!
So on the main page my settings are 200-1300, then I press apply settings. How can I tell If it is working, it does not seem that much faster? Do I have to set this every time I turn my phone on? Do I want to save thos for boot up?
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So on the main page my settings are 200-1300, then I press apply settings. How can I tell If it is working, it does not seem that much faster? Do I have to set this every time I turn my phone on? Do I want to save thos for boot up?
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It wont make it much faster
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Led4lyf said:
So on the main page my settings are 200-1300, then I press apply settings. How can I tell If it is working, it does not seem that much faster? Do I have to set this every time I turn my phone on? Do I want to save thos for boot up?
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When you turn your phone off then on, does it show those same settings? The speed boost will be slight. It's not like we're resurrecting Jesus here.
Hi everyone,
Now I know the OG pro has good ram and an amazing processor, and I'm not having any problems with lag or anything. This is more of a thread where I get to see what users have done to their OG pro and/or what apps you have downloaded to improve the phones performance and functionality.
Please post and modifications you have made, apps you use or have used, and how you improved the performance and functionality of the OG pro.
P.S. eventually sometime down the line someone might encounter some performance issues due to some random reason, so by getting this posted started now they will have a thread they can read through in order to improve their phones performance.
THANK YOU!:fingers-crossed:
Since I created the post I figured I would be the first to post a reply.
Currently under the battery setting I have Quad core control turned on in order to optimize my battery saving. This is one option you can turn off in order to IMPROVE PERFORMANCE.
AnTuTu CPU and MEMORY benchmark
Quad core control on Quad core control off
Total: 9786 Total: 10680
RAM: 3161 RAM: 3255
CPU Integer: 2577 CPU Integer: 3367
CPU float: 4048 CPU float: 4058
*I'm not that familiar with AnTuTu but as far as I know the difference in the scores is an increase of 9.1% which is a fairly good gain.
I also use the app named swapps which allows me to switch between apps much faster than having to hold the home button down to get the task menu and switch from there.
I hope this helps!
let's see.
cpu controller on
rooted
tibu to freeze/remove a ton of apps.
apex launcher
thermal throttling off
juice defender ultimate to handle battery & screen.
scott0 said:
let's see.
cpu controller on
rooted
tibu to freeze/remove a ton of apps.
apex launcher
thermal throttling off
juice defender ultimate to handle battery & screen.
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how long is the battery lasting on average under these conditions ???
zohaer21 said:
how long is the battery lasting on average under these conditions ???
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so long that i can't even guess. i'm quite stunned. i'm not running nay 3d games yet but i do a lot of reading on this so the screen is on, i also have the face recognition running, i can see when the screen tries to time out and the fr kicks in and keeps it lit.
the built-in auto screen dim never worked for me, i have jd brightness set to - 20% 45% 150% and it handles outdoors sunlight much better now also.
the phone last all day long with absolutely no worries at all, i would guess it could easily go 2 days with no worries but i've been plugging it in at night, i like to try to stay close to 100%.
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so long that i can't even guess. i'm quite stunned. i'm not running nay 3d games yet but i do a lot of reading on this so the screen is on, i also have the face recognition running, i can see when the screen tries to time out and the fr kicks in and keeps it lit.
the built-in auto screen dim never worked for me, i have jd brightness set to - 20% 45% 150% and it handles outdoors sunlight much better now also.
the phone last all day long with absolutely no worries at all, i would guess it could easily go 2 days with no worries but i've been plugging it in at night, i like to try to stay close to 100%.
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I think you have to turn on auto brightness in the video app that's how I got mine to work
Edit. I made a video during the video play back I hit menu then settings then brightness then checked the auto box that turned on my auto bright
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nthknd said:
I think you have to turn on auto brightness in the video app that's how I got mine to work
Edit. I made a video during the video play back I hit menu then settings then brightness then checked the auto box that turned on my auto bright
Sent from my LG-E980 using xda premium
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i just tried this as well, it adjusts the screen brightness on the video but when i check the screen brightness in the drop down the auto box is not checked.
is your's checked in the drop down?
scott0 said:
i just tried this as well, it adjusts the screen brightness on the video but when i check the screen brightness in the drop down the auto box is not checked.
is your's checked in the drop down?
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Mine isn't check there either but once you check it you'll see that your screen will dim when you adjust the level so check that box
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Hey guys, just a lil' prelude:
Sorry if there is a similar thread, I did a quick search here and a couple places and didn't see anything. Also, sorry if it's a simple answer, it's eluding me at the moment.
My main question, as the title says, is this: I am looking for a way to limit my CPU as with profiles in setCPU or Rom Tool Box Pro. But I am looking in particular, if there is a way to do so, yet at the same time exclude certain apps; Such as benchmarks or games. In essence I want my processor to be limited so that it's saving battery until the point at which I launch an app where I might benefit from the improved/full CPU power. Is this at all possible?
I recently switched from Sense 6 to GPE and realized there is no power saving mode options in stock android, so my battery has been draining a bit faster than I am used to. I was running power saving mode continuously and just turning it off when needed, so I am probably going to end up just limiting it until I need to take off the limit, but if there was a way to get a hassle-free set up I would be super glad. I always enjoy a little tweaking, so if it takes a bit of work that's fine.
Anyways, lemme know, and thanks in advance!
Zombtastic said:
Hey guys, just a lil' prelude:
Sorry if there is a similar thread, I did a quick search here and a couple places and didn't see anything. Also, sorry if it's a simple answer, it's eluding me at the moment.
My main question, as the title says, is this: I am looking for a way to limit my CPU as with profiles in setCPU or Rom Tool Box Pro. But I am looking in particular, if there is a way to do so, yet at the same time exclude certain apps; Such as benchmarks or games. In essence I want my processor to be limited so that it's saving battery until the point at which I launch an app where I might benefit from the improved/full CPU power. Is this at all possible?
I recently switched from Sense 6 to GPE and realized there is no power saving mode options in stock android, so my battery has been draining a bit faster than I am used to. I was running power saving mode continuously and just turning it off when needed, so I am probably going to end up just limiting it until I need to take off the limit, but if there was a way to get a hassle-free set up I would be super glad. I always enjoy a little tweaking, so if it takes a bit of work that's fine.
Anyways, lemme know, and thanks in advance!
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Have you tried maybe setting up a CPU Control with Tasker? Yes I know...Tasker right
[TUT] Tasker CPU Control V5|Frequency/Governor Customisable Profiles|SetCPU with OCD
Tasker
CPU Control
Tasker Userguide
Tasker Wiki
Last 2 just to learn some more about it if you want.
I'm not aware of any other programs, will have to look into it more but even so, I'd be interested in knowing about it as well. Even though my phone runs great on battery life etc.
Well it's not exactly running bad I battery so much as I know it could be running better with a little help. Lol.
But, I shall definitely look into this when I get home from work. It looks like, from the few glanc s I gave it that this might be able to pull off what I was looking for. I didn't even think of Tasker (mostly because I don't know how to use it lol). I'll let you know how it goes.
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You can try using Per-app Modes
Zombtastic said:
Hey guys, just a lil' prelude:
Sorry if there is a similar thread, I did a quick search here and a couple places and didn't see anything. Also, sorry if it's a simple answer, it's eluding me at the moment.
My main question, as the title says, is this: I am looking for a way to limit my CPU as with profiles in setCPU or Rom Tool Box Pro. But I am looking in particular, if there is a way to do so, yet at the same time exclude certain apps; Such as benchmarks or games. In essence I want my processor to be limited so that it's saving battery until the point at which I launch an app where I might benefit from the improved/full CPU power. Is this at all possible?
I recently switched from Sense 6 to GPE and realized there is no power saving mode options in stock android, so my battery has been draining a bit faster than I am used to. I was running power saving mode continuously and just turning it off when needed, so I am probably going to end up just limiting it until I need to take off the limit, but if there was a way to get a hassle-free set up I would be super glad. I always enjoy a little tweaking, so if it takes a bit of work that's fine.
Anyways, lemme know, and thanks in advance!
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I think you must watch this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxE8J-K2LFI
llsantiago said:
You can try using Per-app Modes
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I think you must watch this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxE8J-K2LFI
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Yeah that actually looks interesting, might be what he's looking for and probably won't be as difficult as setting up Tasker profiles. I might look into that one myself if only for curiosity purposes, nice find.:good:
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You can try using Per-app Modes
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I think you must watch this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxE8J-K2LFI
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Thanks guys! Your Per-App-Modes led me to another suggestion here on XDA. So I think I am gonna try that first, but I never knew half of these options existed! Thanks for the help, I am gonna test each for a few days and see what I come up with. I am hoping the Xposed Framework works out because, seeing as I have a few other modules to get most of my tweaks done, having just another module would be nice and organized to have all my favorite tweaks and mods in one little area. Lol.
Hi , it is just little hint that allows you to get rid of this infamous scrolling issues that appears mostly in social apps like twitter or fb on all AOSP based ROMs.
As I observed it is enough to set some touchboost kernel parameters. Of course you have to be rooted to do that.
Below there is a sample configuration that I use (set in Franco kernel manager) and scrolling is buttery smooth and also I didn't notice inscreased battery drain since I use it (though it it must be higer) .
I suggest to spend sometime to change those value to find sweet spot that suits your needs
Don't ask me about scheduler priority , I don't know what that values means , just know that 1 is fine (maybe other is better ) .
I shared this solution on TG group and some guys confirmed that this trick works for them.
Don't hesitate to share you favorite config and have fun
This was actually one of my main reasons not to use a custom ROM, thanks, I will definitely try this out!
Thank you for sharing this!!
It took me a while to actually find these settings. For those that also can't find it:
Menu > "CPU and GPU" > scroll down to the "Miscellaneous" section > "CAF CPU boost"
shaun.kleyn said:
Thank you for sharing this!!
It took me a while to actually find these settings. For those that also can't find it:
Menu > "CPU and GPU" > scroll down to the "Miscellaneous" section > "CAF CPU boost"
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The menu of which kernel management application?
Ok I see. Sorry.
Works perfect. Thank You.
However, when you look closely, sometimes I see a slight leap in the animation. Which parameter can be increased to completely remove stuttering scroll animations?
Ok I think I know.
schizmatyk said:
The menu of which kernel management application?
Ok I see. Sorry.
Works perfect. Thank You.
However, when you look closely, sometimes I see a slight leap in the animation. Which parameter can be increased to completely remove stuttering scroll animations?
Ok I think I know.
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Can you share what you did to smooth it out completely? Ta
loulondono said:
Can you share what you did to smooth it out completely? Ta
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Input boost to 1500 but app drawer from time to time still have some problems with smoothnes
Wow that's a massive difference. I'm using the FPS overlay thing (app not settings) and it actually waits before playing with the refresh rate. I'm on stock not a rom yet, but the little hang ups on what is the latest and fastest chip was annoying me to all hell. Thank you so much (and felek73 obviously)
First impressions: responsiveness if fantastic, but battery drain is way higher (I had just flashed blu sparks and only done a half day, so will see in time) but before it was noticeably better than stock and the remaining 40% has gone by considerably quicker
How to I reset the frequencies to stock? There isnt a "0" option in Franco kernel, despite being that way initially