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Is it possible to replace the Snapdragon processor in the Incredible with a Dual-Core chip?? This topic is far too advanced for me, but I am curious. I love my incredible so much, that I would rather update it's components before tossing it aside for some new piece of hardware.
Thanks in advance.
I would like to say anything is possible. But I'm going to respond with a simple no. Its a little more involved than just swapping. And even if you could, the cost would not even make it worthwhile.
davwman said:
I would like to say anything is possible. But I'm going to respond with a simple no. Its a little more involved than just swapping. And even if you could, the cost would not even make it worthwhile.
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Hit the nail on the head there.
Could you do it if you were extremely tech savvy and were on some kind of hell-bent mission to preserve your phone? Possibly. But the bottom line answer is pretty much no.
It would cost as much as a dual-core phone.
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It would cost as much as a dual-core phone.
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So like 10 bucks? Bahaha
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I read the title and lol'd...LOL
I'm guessing you've built/upgraded a desktop processor or even a laptop processor before. It's nowhere near as easy.
You'd have to unsolder, find a qualcomm processor (you can't just buy one of newegg), write drivers that work with the rest of the phone, solder the new processor in, and cross your fingers.
It would probably cost more than two Evo 3Ds off contract
Yes it is, I did it today while jumping over the Grand Canyon.
What kind of running shoes did you use while jumping the grand canyon?
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Yeah.... I'd estimate that effort requiring as much skill, equipment, schooling, and patience as a doctor specializing in separating conjoined twins at the skull. I'd be amazed if the pin-out was similar looking, much less the same. In the end you'd probably end up with something as chunky as my dInc with my massive 3500mAh battery installed... but with only the stock battery.
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Yeah.... I'd estimate that effort requiring as much skill, equipment, schooling, and patience as a doctor specializing in separating conjoined twins at the skull.
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Bush league. Give me something difficult already. Sheesh.
pianoplayer said:
I'm guessing you've built/upgraded a desktop processor or even a laptop processor before. It's nowhere near as easy.
You'd have to unsolder, find a qualcomm processor (you can't just buy one of newegg), write drivers that work with the rest of the phone, solder the new processor in, and cross your fingers.
It would probably cost more than two Evo 3Ds off contract
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No, when it comes to actually building anything tech wise, the most I have done is add RAM. I have done plenty of mods on cars/motors, just not on gadgets. I was hoping that the concept would be the same. Maybe, solder here, grind there, and voila...done.
Hi, I'm considering purchasing an A100 as a developmental tool for my twin 3 year olds. I would probably put a bunch of kids stuff on it and run it inside the Kids Mode app.
Would you say the A100 is a good choice for this purpose? Is there a better choice?
I think it is. I let my 3 year old daughter play fruit ninja and anger birds all the time. Its the perfect size to sit in her lap while shes on the couch.
How sturdy is the A100?
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Or if you can wait get this
http://www.pcworld.com/article/251203/archos_child_pad_tablet_is_129.html
IMO a100 is good but may be overkill. Why not just a really cheap one like a coby or an off brand. I've seen some go for less than $100 retail.
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i suggest not it is not worth it to give a 300 dollar honeycomb tablet that can be upgraded to ics to a 3 year old
a wasted investment
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How sturdy is the A100?
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It's a pretty tough little tablet so long as its not thrown across the room. I've dropped mine quite a few times and it hasn't broken yet. The screen is gorilla glass, scratch resistant, takes some force to crack. When combining this tablet with kids, I'd say the most you have to worry about is how much you'll have to clean the screen. I work as a barber and use my a100 to keep kids occupied while I cut their hair.
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Or if you can wait get this
http://www.pcworld.com/article/251203/archos_child_pad_tablet_is_129.html
IMO a100 is good but may be overkill. Why not just a really cheap one like a coby or an off brand. I've seen some go for less than $100 retail.
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Well, I would want to be able to use it as well occasionally. No Android Market either.
opera38205 said:
i suggest not it is not worth it to give a 300 dollar honeycomb tablet that can be upgraded to ics to a 3 year old
a wasted investment
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Cost will be $230 new or $200 used. Their current tablet is a Xoom and this will be tablet #2 so they don't have to fight over the Xoom. As someone who works in the financial industry I have to ask, do you really consider any tablet, phone or other piece of electronics an investment?
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It's a pretty tough little tablet so long as its not thrown across the room. I've dropped mine quite a few times and it hasn't broken yet. The screen is gorilla glass, scratch resistant, takes some force to crack. When combining this tablet with kids, I'd say the most you have to worry about is how much you'll have to clean the screen. I work as a barber and use my a100 to keep kids occupied while I cut their hair.
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Good to hear!
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Well, I would want to be able to use it as well occasionally. No Android Market either.
Cost will be $230 new or $200 used. Their current tablet is a Xoom and this will be tablet #2 so they don't have to fight over the Xoom. As someone who works in the financial industry I have to ask, do you really consider any tablet, phone or other piece of electronics an investment?
Good to hear!
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Well without a calculator you'd be doing all your financial analysis on paper... which would take so much longer. Without communication electronics you'd be running around much more wasting that precious time trying to get a very easy question answered when you could have just called up that person... or to give you more of an advantage let's say you could use snail mail via horse... since vehicles have some form electronics in them. But seriously, try to do your job, for one week, without ANY form of electronics along side someone that is using them. Also, the consumer electronics can be used as productive tools if that's what you use them for. All depends on the motivation and mentality of the user. In the right hands, a hammer can build a house... in the wrong hands it's being only used to open beers. For those who use consumer electronics for entertainment... best argument I can make for them is that it's it helps with stress management and therefore an investment on their mental well-being.
Hope that gives you something to think about. Looking forward to your response.
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Cost will be $230 new or $200 used. Their current tablet is a Xoom and this will be tablet #2 so they don't have to fight over the Xoom. As someone who works in the financial industry I have to ask, do you really consider any tablet, phone or other piece of electronics an investment?
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@ bolded.
And wouldn't you consider something going to the well being and development of your children an investment?
The a100 is a great tablet! But for a 3 year old....I think that maybe some special learning tablet like a 'leap pad' or 'leapfrog' would be better. Honestly, I dont think a 3 year old should have a tablet just yet. Their eyes are still developing....It just doesnt seem right to me.
No, it is not.
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The a100 is a great tablet! But for a 3 year old....I think that maybe some special learning tablet like a 'leap pad' or 'leapfrog' would be better. Honestly, I dont think a 3 year old should have a tablet just yet. Their eyes are still developing....It just doesnt seem right to me.
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+1 my son has a vtech innotab. looks like daddies but he actually learns instead of just drawing on daddies tablet. not to mention its way more rugged and costs 79.99. way better tool for teaching your kids. hes only 18 months but answers super simple math questions and colors like a champ haha. the leappad is also great...it was my second choice.
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he will probably take better care of it then most grown ppl simply cause it will never leave there hand
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I dont know about going the leaf pad route. In my opinion a100 will be a cheaper choice in the long run, lot of fun educational stuff for kids for low prize even free. Leaf pad you need to buy new books and cartrige.
Im not an expert in parenting so don't need take my opinion as an advice keep it as anothr tough to think about.
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Leap pad is garbage ..
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Leap pad is garbage ..
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Yes. We already have two of them. They suck.
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Y not have ur kids go outside and play?? Be a normal ****ing parent
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My 2 year has a galaxy tab and she goes through like nothing, my opinion get any tab thats not gonna lag its the digital age, yes she goes outside cant keep her in but they will be smarter for it. Mine can almost type her own name at two
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I dont think a tablet is a good choice for a 3 year old kid, since they'll just use 2 or 3 apps (mostly games) it'll be a total waste of money.
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Y not have ur kids go outside and play?? Be a normal ****ing parent
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I dont think a tablet is a good choice for a 3 year old kid, since they'll just use 2 or 3 apps (mostly games) it'll be a total waste of money.
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Honestly. It is not a waste a money because the kid learna. My daughter has one and she learns a lot and.is very smart. And she plays outside all the time. It may be a waste of money to people who dont have money to just buy one. But if you can afford to get one for yoir kid then go for it. This tablet is the cheapest tablet for which you will get your most bang for your buck.
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I am about to share some insight. I need Google to listen as they will be developing the future of smart phones. We need Samsung, Sharp, Sony, and HTC to get this too. They make our wonderful hardware. Lastly, we need you. Only you can make it happen.
Here is some example of the problems. I bought a Harley. I have increased the performance through adding performance exhaust and a high flow intake. I also added a new seat and forward controls because of my height.
Now take my desktop computer. Instead of using the on 20" monitor I upgraded to a 24" after I purchased it. It was laggy so we opened it up and added a stick of ram. Shortly later we ran out of some space so we got a hard drive that was faster and had twice together capacity. The new Windows 7 dropped and as fast as I could purchase it I was installing.
Now comes the present state of our smartphones. We have great phones for just long enough to see a press flier to launch the new best thing. My idea will change the industry. It will create jobs at home. It could really change the whole thing.
I will be using various examples. The first is the Epic touch by Sprint but applies to other carriers. We all know this phone has a Wimax capable modem. What if we could go to Best Buy and my the new LTE modem be right there for the purchase. I am stuck for another year in this contract but I am very eager to take advantage of the improved speeds.
Next you see they are making 720p screens. Do I want LCD or Amoled? Once I decided I run over to the geek guy squad to install. I also get a warranty just for my screen.
An extra gig of ram so I don't lag as bad on the latest racing game. If that didn't do the trick maybe it's time for a better CPU.
We call it Hot Rodding. This could be the future. You want a specific clone. You can build it yourself.
We change from asking what phone you have to saying, "Hey, what's under the hood.
At the end of our 2 year contract are phones are still up to date and easier to sell.
We still buy complete phones from manufactures. They still carry feature phones that are kept original. But there premium phones sell according to their trim line like on cars. Very much like desktop computers.
The market could be huge. Sells will increase across the board. Companies no longer will be out on 60 percent of the customers who are under contract. If they have a new CPU launching on a new phone before most customers couldn't even purchase it. Now even the ones stuck in contract can give Samsung money to upgrade their phone's components.
Android could end fragmentation. Your phones just needs certain requirement for the upgrades.
Imagine the possibilities. Best Buy and geek squad would be set. But you will once again see the boom of the local computer store.
The current phone manufactures will do great too. You might only sell them a phone every 2 years. But, they can keep it upgraded for the life of the contract.
Businesses who manufacture and sell accessories will do wonderful. They don't have to worry about case changes ever year on hundreds of models. Their overhead would go down dramaticaIly. If you are tired of that 4" screen phone. It looks like you can buy a new case and screen. All your other hardware will transfer.
If you want a phone and you take a lot of pictures maybe you will just need a better camera and video card.
The initial cost of the phone might be more. But, now it is more like buying a car and less like buying a dozen eggs with a short shelf life. If your phones motor blows out you can take it to the shop or buy the part on eBay/Amazon and do it yourself after reading the instructions.
I will update this in the morning when my brain is clear and I am not as tired. I would love to here your input. Together we can construct the perfect essay to distribute to the companies.
Seriously? I'm sure this is something that has crossed the mind of these companies before and I'm pretty sure what you're suggesting would not be profitable or logistically sound.
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Very interesting
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It would be a HUGE phone! The reason phones are small and powerful is that they are designed from the ground up as one unit. If you want a new camera how will it attach? How will the existing hardware interface deal with the new signal. Look into why the S3 doesn't have a quad-core processor in the US. The System On Chip (SOC) makes what you know and love as a phone possible but it doesn't allow you to swap pieces like a PC.
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It's an interesting idea, but this mean a complete rewrite of android from scratch I believe and will make fragmentation even worst than it is right now Also there is no good profit for the OEM.
But it could be awesome to have a customizable smartphone (hardware)
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It's an interesting idea, but this mean a complete rewrite of android from scratch I believe and will make fragmentation even worst than it is right now Also there is no good profit for the OEM.
But it could be awesome to have a customizable smartphone (hardware)
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It would only require the OS to be compiled with a set of standard drivers for most hardware. Kinda like windows and it's generic drivers.
I would definitely love to have the ability to interchange parts like ram, gpu, cpu, screens, cameras, speakers, leds...
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Several companies have tried this with laptops over the years and they all flopped. It is a good idea but nearly impossible to execute in cell phones. Manufacturing costs simply need to be reduced so contracts are no longer needed. Like computers did mid 2000's cell phones seem to be hitting a plateau where they cant get much better/faster/different than people want. There is honestly nothing that cant be done on E4GT platform except for lte.
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Your obviously young op. Hardware isn't that easy as a computer for phones. The ONLY possible thing that can happen is if a third party company makes things to replace on your phone. (Of course better things) or even they design a phone that's all for upgrading its core components. However even that will need to be replaced just like phones within months. Just look at computers. Things develop extremely fast these days. No matter what the idea isn't effective for company's.
At least not yet in the limit of hardware we have today.
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You don't get it. These companies benefit from the hype of the newest phones coming out. It makes our phones look like they are less than they actually are and we feel like we need the newest thing out out on the market. These companies feed off of our weak, pathetic minds to profit themselves. Don't get me wrong, I adore your idea, I am just absolutely sure that it wont make it.
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Totally impractical. You're trying to take an entirely different marketplace and apply it to smartphones. It doesn't work that way. I promise you your idea has been thought of before, and many of the reasons mentioned in this thread are why it'll never go farther than the idea stage.
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Totally impractical. You're trying to take an entirely different marketplace and apply it to smartphones. It doesn't work that way. I promise you your idea has been thought of before, and many of the reasons mentioned in this thread are why it'll never go farther than the idea stage.
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I disagree.. Its always good to have options but it will never be the android market.. Google wouldnt allow that lol.. I use other markets before googles for a number of reasons.. Ideas are what make reality, without them we wouldnt be where we are at now. Not to mention in such a short time
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Also wanted to add to the op.. What if they created one device to start that the manufacturer developed new parts for that specific device which the owners had to purchase the parts they wanted to upgrade? It would be a test run and if profitable would increase there base.. Why not? Even be able to purchase new cases for other hardware? It would be profitable and all us technology buffs would have a blast.. Its putting it in motion that is the hardest.. The idea is great.
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This should be the future of smart phones
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It's a novel idea but I don't see it happening unless the manufacturers and carriers can find a way to milk us for all it's worth. If you must have the latest and greatest all the time your options are buy off contract or buy out of your existing one.
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Great idea. I actually had a similar one a while back when I was still rockin' my G2. I also thought about maybe an XDA phone. However, there seems to be a stale air floating around XDA as of late when it comes to "why not". Everyone wants to knock ideas that are far fetched. I doubt Android would be the way it is now if unlocking a locked/encrypted bootloader was too "far fetched". Or overlclocking a phone was pointless.
Some ideas you have are very practical. The screen and camera being a couple. Something like the processor would be difficult given current build methods but all that would take is a very minor redesign of the way it connects to the board. Also they would need to discontinue the use of the SOC model. RAM would be easy as long as it's separate from the SOC also and the connections are redesigned.
This of course would take implementing industry standards like we see in computers with SATA and PCIe. Until that happens, this idea isn't going to take off. Now there's the issue of size that was brought up. That's a non-issue really. Let's take an sdcard for example. Swappable RAM couldn't be that small? I don't see why not because an sdcard is swappable and it's small. It also has a lot of memory - 64GB+ on something smaller than the nail on your pinkie. Sure some things might increase in size a little but nothing that would cause us to carry around Zack Morris phones again. We're talking a millimeter or so at the most.
The main issue with any of this is having it catch on. No company is going to start doing it on it's own. You'd have to create a company and make phones which would cause the competition (minus Apple) to adopt this methodology also. Anyone have lots of money or really good credit?
A few problems with that theory. One, it assumes that the average person know how to replace RAM, CPU, screen, etc. Two, it assumes that the average person knows how to use basic tools and actually has the tiny tools necessary to work on a phone, and the capability or know-how to actually disassemble the device and know what to replace. Not to mention the fact that the phone's tiny connectors are easily damaged by improper handling. The problem of lacking standards has already been mentioned. But the biggest problem is size. You are very wrong if you think that making everything replaceable will not make the phone significantly bigger. Let me give you an example: I still have an 8 year old Dell laptop, on which I was able to replace the CPU to upgrade it. It was a large computer and had a socket for the CPU that made it easily swappable. On my current macbook pro, the CPU is soldered to the board, and the only thing I can replace myself is the RAM and HD. I swapped the HD for an SSD. On the macbook air, everything is soldered and not replaceable. Essentially, to make things as small as possible, you have to permanently attach as many things as possible AND use as many proprietary components as possible. You can't use many standardized components if size is an issue. While this is a good idea in theory, it is absolutely impossible in practice and would not result in increased sales if implemented. It would result in a bulky device leaving most people questioning why they should buy this over the competition. And then they will go and buy the competition. If you want more people to buy Apple, institute this. Hell, given that option, I'd buy Apple myself.
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Once I decided I run over to the geek guy squad to install.
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You lost me right here. I wouldn't trust any of them boiling water, let alone with my phone.
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A few problems with that theory. One, it assumes that the average person know how to replace RAM, CPU, screen, etc. Two, it assumes that the average person knows how to use basic tools and actually has the tiny tools necessary to work on a phone, and the capability or know-how to actually disassemble the device and know what to replace. Not to mention the fact that the phone's tiny connectors are easily damaged by improper handling.
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How many "average" people do you know that swap out computer components? No assumption here at all. This would be a thing only for enthusiasts - like installing a high end graphics card, water cooling, 16GB of RAM, a new motherboard, moving to Ivy Bridge, and so on.
No "average" person goes much beyond swapping out a monitor at best. Maybe installing more RAM if they're feeling really froggy.
The reason for size in a desktop is due to the wires and a lot of time, cooling requirements. In a phone there are very few wires running all over the place, no fans to route them around. No CPU heat sink to worry about melting wires. The HDD and optical drives are large and require space along with, you guessed it, more wires. RAM stands vertically and it's large by todays standards. Desktops are not made with simple upgrades in mind. They are made to allow the user to add to them. Well most anyway (remember Gateway and Compaq?).
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How many "average" people do you know that swap out computer components? No assumption here at all. This would be a thing only for enthusiasts - like installing a high end graphics card, water cooling, 16GB of RAM, a new motherboard, moving to Ivy Bridge, and so on.
No "average" person goes much beyond swapping out a monitor at best. Maybe installing more RAM if they're feeling really froggy.
The reason for size in a desktop is due to the wires and a lot of time, cooling requirements. In a phone there are very few wires running all over the place, no fans to route them around. No CPU heat sink to worry about melting wires. The HDD and optical drives are large and require space along with, you guessed it, more wires. RAM stands vertically and it's large by todays standards. Desktops are not made with simple upgrades in mind. They are made to allow the user to add to them. Well most anyway (remember Gateway and Compaq?).
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If you are purposefully making an upgradeable device, you are automatically sacrificing size. It's a fact that to make devices as small as possible, which is most ideal in a portable device, there can't be room for upgrades. If you look at the current ultraportable notebooks (Apple and otherwise), they generally have non-replaceable components. There's just not enough room for connectors and sockets in those devices. So, to make such a device successful, it has to appeal to the average person, not the enthusiast market. Only few companies can market a product to enthusiasts, and it generally involves hand-made cars for half million dollars each. And simply put, there's really no need for such a device. A computer is one thing, but your phone is something that gets used and abused on a regular basis. And by the time your contract expires, technology is so far ahead that upgrading would be as useful as maxing out the RAM on an 8 year old computer. If you look at the most successful gadget company out there, it would be Apple. Like them or not, their success is undeniable. Underlying that success is the theory of providing a quality product that appeals to the average customer. And that's key. Even if you could keep the exact same size but make it upgradeable, there is absolutely no way that you will ever have market out there that would warrant such a device. I'm not going to spend $200 on a phone and drop hundreds of dollars more on upgrades, only to have a worthless device 2 years down the line when the contract expires and you're due for an upgrade. And lastly, most people do not have time to tinker with their phones. We have enough things to worry about, and most of us want a device that works well out of the box, and is sufficient until time to upgrade. From what I can see, only two companies actually realize this simple concept. One is obviously Apple, and the other is Samsung. I can honestly say that the E4GT is just about perfect out of the box, if only Sprint kept their hands off of it and did not load it down with crap.
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Let's make a port of this for our T989 and show'em our phone still rules!
Um.. what dimension are you living in? The Nexus 4 obliterates our phone in every conceivable way. Even with a non removable battery, missing SD slot and glass back. Wake up buddy.
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Thanks for the link. I grabbed the Sounds and Wallpaper files.
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Um.. what dimension are you living in? The Nexus 4 obliterates our phone in every conceivable way. Even with a non removable battery, missing SD slot and glass back. Wake up buddy.
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Did he say our phone is better than the nexus?
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Did he say our phone is better than the nexus?
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I believe that's what he said. Or "our phone still rules" must have a different meaning to you.
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RushAOZ said:
Um.. what dimension are you living in? The Nexus 4 obliterates our phone in every conceivable way. Even with a non removable battery, missing SD slot and glass back. Wake up buddy.
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you mean its faster and bigger right?
because its a complete POS, without a battery or expandable storage..
Let me get this straight.. Any phone that doesn't give you expandable storage options, is complete GARBAGE!!
Show me 1 single camera out there RIGHT NOW, that has a permanent battery built into it.
Todays phones have cameras that are amazing, amazing enough where people use them for there main camera!Going to disney world for the day with the kids? Maybe Bush Gardens ?? Or the tons of other places where charging your phone simply isn't an option!
Personally, I can live without it, although having no option to easily switch out a battery, no expandable storage is completely junk!!
So yea, I will take you on, our phone BLOWS away the new nexus 4 by a mile! I wouldn't care if you could put it in your pants and it performed.... well you know.
bottom line, this is why the Iphone is a POS in my opinion and many others, nexus 4 trying to copy it, PATHETIC !!
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you mean its faster and bigger right?
because its a complete POS, without a battery or expandable storage..
Let me get this straight.. Any phone that doesn't give you expandable storage options, is complete GARBAGE!!
Show me 1 single camera out there RIGHT NOW, that has a permanent battery built into it.
Todays phones have cameras that are amazing, amazing enough where people use them for there main camera!Going to disney world for the day with the kids? Maybe Bush Gardens ?? Or the tons of other places where charging your phone simply isn't an option!
Personally, I can live without it, although having no option to easily switch out a battery, no expandable storage is completely junk!!
So yea, I will take you on, our phone BLOWS away the new nexus 4 by a mile! I wouldn't care if you could put it in your pants and it performed.... well you know.
bottom line, this is why the Iphone is a POS in my opinion and many others, nexus 4 trying to copy it, PATHETIC !!
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Buddy don't get butthurt I sold my herc to get this and still lurk the forums anyway the N4 is made by a company that is cloud based so they want you to use cloud services...and btw this phone would obliterate the herc if you absolutely hate the fact it doesn't have expandable storage the don't get it other people are okay with that this is the best phone I've ever used and I've used a s3 lol
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fastfed said:
you mean its faster and bigger right?
because its a complete POS, without a battery or expandable storage..
Let me get this straight.. Any phone that doesn't give you expandable storage options, is complete GARBAGE!!
Show me 1 single camera out there RIGHT NOW, that has a permanent battery built into it.
Todays phones have cameras that are amazing, amazing enough where people use them for there main camera!Going to disney world for the day with the kids? Maybe Bush Gardens ?? Or the tons of other places where charging your phone simply isn't an option!
Personally, I can live without it, although having no option to easily switch out a battery, no expandable storage is completely junk!!
So yea, I will take you on, our phone BLOWS away the new nexus 4 by a mile! I wouldn't care if you could put it in your pants and it performed.... well you know.
bottom line, this is why the Iphone is a POS in my opinion and many others, nexus 4 trying to copy it, PATHETIC !!
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Actually, you're wrong. These are mobile phones not meant to be replacements for other devices that perform their main functions much better than our phones. Even the cheapest point and shoots take much better pictures and video than the best smartphone. Go look at the Nexus 4 forums. People are getting much better battery life with their built in batteries than our phone with an extended battery. 16gb is more than enough space to to carry all your current media and games. CURRENT. Not your entire library.. and if you need it you always have cloud storage.
Clearly you're very biased and have some sort of technological inferiority. Either that or you're a noob to smartphones and this is your first. If you can't see that the Nexus 4 or ANY current flagship phone is better than the t989 (which was the runt of the GSII family to begin with..) than you're just plain naive and ignorant.
Also I'm not going to reply to your post so think what you want dude. Anyone with half a brain can see the truth for themselves.
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Yeah our phone is good and I like expandable storage but I guarantee that the N4 would smoke the Hercules in just about every way.. Removable battery and micro SD slot is not a valid argument because they are just preferences
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Um.. what dimension are you living in? The Nexus 4 obliterates our phone in every conceivable way. Even with a non removable battery, missing SD slot and glass back. Wake up buddy.
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RushAOZ said:
Actually, you're wrong. These are mobile phones not meant to be replacements for other devices that perform their main functions much better than our phones. Even the cheapest point and shoots take much better pictures and video than the best smartphone. Go look at the Nexus 4 forums. People are getting much better battery life with their built in batteries than our phone with an extended battery. 16gb is more than enough space to to carry all your current media and games. CURRENT. Not your entire library.. and if you need it you always have cloud storage.
Clearly you're very biased and have some sort of technological inferiority. Either that or you're a noob to smartphones and this is your first. If you can't see that the Nexus 4 or ANY current flagship phone is better than the t989 (which was the runt of the GSII family to begin with..) than you're just plain naive and ignorant.
Also I'm not going to reply to your post so think what you want dude. Anyone with half a brain can see the truth for themselves.
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We can play this dance all day long, the bottom line, YOU'RE WRONG!! at least about 1 thing.. Smartphones have replaced cameras, for many if not most people, minus the photonerds.
The N4 is a better phone on paper and I'm sure in general use, but again, built in batteries are weak, I don't care if it lasts all day with normal use.. Again, you aren't using it a full day taking pictures with it and during the day time many of these phones take great pictures, great enough that most people couldn't tell the difference.
As for expandable storage... please, 16gb wouldn't hold a candle to my music library alone, let alone the tons of other stuff I use.. Cloud storage is nice, but look at the terms and rules and watch how fast you will hate it..
Plan on having pictures or "other" stuff on your phone that violates the terms, they shut you down!
Many Nexus owners never made the switch, a perm. battery was a big negative for many.
The Iphone always sucked for the reasons I stated and I stand behind that. I would take the NoteII or GSIII over it anyday and so would most (As the numbers already show that)
This guy has got to be trolling.. as you said. Numbers are proof. This iPhone you say is such **** happens to be the best selling smartphone of all time. Without it's non expandable storage, non removal battery and glass build. So.. yea. You're wrong. Also to top it off these options are preferences.
I'm a power user and I don't need any of these options. I listen to all the current albums I'm into plus some favorites that always stay in my library. I have over 85 apps installed as well as one or 2 big games like Most Wanted. I have over 600 pictures in my DCIM folder. A few ROMs and zips in my root. Your views of storage on a MOBILE device are flawed. You're he type of person to take your entire library with you. More often than not, you are the minority.
I usually get between 3.5-4.5 hours of screen on time that I can easily break up between my work time and whatnot. Usually at the end of the night before I plug back in my is still alive. So an extended battery is also a moot point.
I have no need for any of the options you're basing your self righteous opinion about what phone is best on. Now imagine the average person that doesn't even use their phone half as much as we do.
All that and I don't even use cloud storage or an extended battery!
You're beginning to realize how ridiculous you sound, right?
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You guyz fight too much.... just use what you want from the dump.
Why is the value of the GNex depreciating so quickly?
I already know Apple products hang on to their value much better. This is evident based on the price of 2nd hand iPhones. Even compared other older 4G Android phones... it's worth more than the GNex (using Swappa as rough estimate).
Edit: disregard, I have a GSM model.
My opinion: I don't care, I don't plan on selling. Have a perfectly working device in my hand right now.
But I guess it's just how technology (and mobile devices on the very top of it) is.
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If you need an investment, buy stock or real estate. Phones are tools to enhance your life, not to increase your wealth (unless you are a developer and can monetize your work).
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Winesnob said:
If you need an investment, buy stock or real estate. Phones are tools to enhance your life, not to increase your wealth (unless you are a developer and can monetize your work).
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This. I don't know why anybody expects their Android phone to remain the same price when there's a new one coming out every few weeks.
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I understand how you feel about the iPhone.. But to be honest there is nothing a phone built in July 2010 can do well. I'm sorry but someone paying $200+ for a iPhone 4 is retarded.
But Android us a two fold issue, one being they constantly build something better 4 months later, and Android hits a cheaper price point. The Galaxy Nexus being sold brand new unlocked for $350 was awesome, but dented retail. On the flip side though my wife's RAZR 32gb is worth about $150 because since then there has been the RAZR Maxx, RAZR in a million colors, RAZR HD, RAZR HD MAXX. They kinda kill themselves. Phones are like computers or cars, buy it but don't expect a large return for the most part.
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You guys are wrong. It really depends on what you plan to do with the phone. If you like to get a new phone relatively often.. Wouldn't you rather have the phone maintain its value better so you can sell it and move on to the next greatest thing. But if you are those that will use a phone till it dies, then obviously this does not apply to you. So no, I don't see it as an investment. But this does factor into how I budget for future phones.
Ultimately, it depends on your long term plans.
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You guys are wrong. It really depends on what you plan to do with the phone. If you like to get a new phone relatively often.. Wouldn't you rather have the phone maintain its value better so you can sell it and move on to the next greatest thing. But if you are those that will use a phone till it dies, then obviously this does not apply to you. So no, I don't see it as an investment. But this does factor into how I budget for future phones.
Ultimately, it depends on your long term plans.
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Good luck.
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I'm excited about prices dropping on our phones, this means I can treat it more like an everyday item than a fragile price of electronics and get a new one e for under $200. Then again I said that with my fascinate but even still, I never ended up needing g a replacement. It's much nicer to not feel like I'm required to baby something because of its dollar value.
kl323 said:
You guys are wrong. It really depends on what you plan to do with the phone. If you like to get a new phone relatively often.. Wouldn't you rather have the phone maintain its value better so you can sell it and move on to the next greatest thing. But if you are those that will use a phone till it dies, then obviously this does not apply to you. So no, I don't see it as an investment. But this does factor into how I budget for future phones.
Ultimately, it depends on your long term plans.
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"Wouldn't you rather" and what actually happens are rarely the same thing.
Wouldn't I rather have a seven figure income and a home in Martha's Vineyard? Yes. Don't I actually have a five figure income and a tiny house in a less than phenomenal suburb? Yes.
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