I've typed on my dad's Galaxy SII before and I really suck at it, so I'm thinking about going with a slider phone.
Obviously, the SIII has better hardware (1.5Ghz instead of 1GHz, 2GB RAM instead of 1GB, 16GB flash vs. 8GB, 720p screen resolution vs. 480p, 1080p video vs. 720p, slower camera) but I think all of these can be absorbed by the $150 saved by going with the Captive Glide.
On the other hand, I live in an area that supports 4G LTE and I've seen reports that its much faster (around an order of magnitude) than the slower 4G standard that the Glide supports. My friend told me, though, that he turns off 4G anyway to preserve battery life.
I've also seen a lot of reports on the web that the Glide battery life is short.
The real decision factors are battery life, typing comfort and Internet speed IMO.
I've never had a smartphone. Given these criteria can you please tell me which one of the phones you recommend?
Thanks
Battery life is always a variable.
If I leave my phone alone for the weekend and I don't use it for 90% of the weekend, it can go 2.5 days before a charge and that's with wifi on the entire time. But of course heavy use and you'll need to charge it after 8 hours, but that's with any phone and I have peeps with SIII and they visit me asking to plug in their phone midday.
As for slider, have u checked if any new slider's have come onto market since november?
best one is prob. droid 4, but i wanna stick with att
I'd vote the Glide, but then you're asking in the Glide forum so we may be a bit biased. Battery life is just fine for me, with an average amount of use I have no problems going a full day on a charge, and even heavy usage is no worse than any other smartphone I've used (or known friends who've used). The keyboard is one of the better ones out there, probably not quite as good as the droid 4 but it's very respectable, so if you're not a fan of touch-screen keyboards that's a huge bonus point. While the SIII is faster, the Glide is certainly not slow. It plays games wonderfully and has no problems with anything I do.
Both are great phones.the question is does it bother you took pay an extra $150 for something that you can do on the glide for less. You need to weigh the pros and cons.
Glide
1. Hardware keyboard
2. Less expensive
3 Smaller more portable
4. This community!
S3
Better hardware
Bigger screen
Ics and probably jelly bean before the glide, not prerelease versions.
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the main advantage that the glide has on the s3 (or s2) is the physical keyboard. the hardware of the S3 is much better than the glide (and of curse makes it more expansive).
i know that t-mobile will release the smasung s realy that is more like the S3 hardware specs but with an hardware keyboard.
so if you live in the states and don't mind switching to t-mobile so you should check it out, if you are willing to wait for the release.
here in canada, I'm with rogers. If Rogers didn't send the Sony Xperia Pro to their budget provider Fido, I would of most likely bought it before the glide was announced/sold by Rogers.
I love my Glide, but I can't stand not having an Otterbox (I'm a little rough on my phones) - if you'd be interested, get the S3 and give it a try, if you don't love it, I'd trade my Glide + $150 for the S3 (so long as it'll work on T-Mobile)
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Wuschelbeutel said:
I've typed on my dad's Galaxy SII before and I really suck at it, so I'm thinking about going with a slider phone.
Obviously, the SIII has better hardware (1.5Ghz instead of 1GHz, 2GB RAM instead of 1GB, 16GB flash vs. 8GB, 720p screen resolution vs. 480p, 1080p video vs. 720p, slower camera) but I think all of these can be absorbed by the $150 saved by going with the Captive Glide.
On the other hand, I live in an area that supports 4G LTE and I've seen reports that its much faster (around an order of magnitude) than the slower 4G standard that the Glide supports. My friend told me, though, that he turns off 4G anyway to preserve battery life.
I've also seen a lot of reports on the web that the Glide battery life is short.
The real decision factors are battery life, typing comfort and Internet speed IMO.
I've never had a smartphone. Given these criteria can you please tell me which one of the phones you recommend?
Thanks
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If this will be your first smartphone, then i warn you, you will face constant battery life issues, no matter what phone you buy.
As for the SIII vs. cap.glide comparsion, the real question is you need physical qwerty or not? Do you type a lot of messages (IM services, SMS, e-mail, etc...) or not?
If you realy need physical qwerty then your choices are realy limited (the only opponent is the Droid 4 but keep in mind that's a WCDMA phone, and will not work on GSM -> "not global compatible'), but if you do not need it, then feel free to look elsewhere.
Oh, and just a side-note, the Captivate Glide is NOT a 4G phone, it is a simple GSM/UMTS phone, the 4G stuff is just some sort of marketing-bullsheet from AT&T as in their eyes a phone with 21Mbps HSDPA support is a "4G" phone, but it is not.
In theory, 4G/LTE networks gives far more bandwitch what the 3.5G/UMTS network offers, but average users never needs more bandwitch what the UMTS network already offers, the real advance for 4G networks is the drastically decreased latency, witch is important for end-users only on such situations as online gaming.
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here in canada, I'm with rogers. If Rogers didn't send the Sony Xperia Pro to their budget provider Fido, I would of most likely bought it before the glide was announced/sold by Rogers.
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I'm an actual Xperia Pro user (mk16i), and i can assure you the Captivate Glide is a far far better then the Xperia Pro, and beats it from every aspect (except battery, but it's a "standard" issue for all of the modern smartphones). The only reason to worth to buy the Pro, if they sell it at least half the price of the Glide.
As mentioned before, the main reason to get Glide is the hardware keyboard and possibly the $150 price cut. While the latter is entirely up to you to decide, the former was the main reason for me to get a Glide. I used to own a Nexus S and was SICK of typing on touch keyboards because of the large number of errors. Things like people's names, words with very few letters, medical terms, words in my local language using english alphabet etc would mess up even on swype because I had to type them letter by letter and my fingers are quite the sausages.
So I got the Glide and suddenly I hear of this new keyboard in the market called Messagease. It is vastly different from routine keyboards in that it has HUGE buttons and a slight learning curve. And the reason I mention it is that it has mostly replaced my need to use the physical keyboard (I only slide it out when I need to type a LOT of text like in an email spanning a few pages) as it does not rely on autocorrect and gives AMAZING accuracy. If possible, try out Messagease from the market and see if it suits you (remember that there's a learning curve and you have to consider how it would suit you if you already knew the letter locations). If you are satisfied with it and are willing to spend the extra cash, S3 would definitely be a better choice.
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So i'm thinking about getting a new phone, and i've been following the touch pro 2 for awhile since it was announced, and it's always caught my interest. Right now i'd be paying 350 since i'm under tmobile, i'm just wondering from peoples opinions is it worth it?
can someone layout the pros and the cons on the phone for me? thanks.
Welcome to forums
Of course it´s worth every cent!
Redundant if we post here pros and cons
Better read and search!!
Good luck,
I paid $688.88 for my unlocked/unbranded version a couple months back and I have no regrets.
Paid $525 and I can't put it down! Worth every cent and thank god I made the switch and left the Blackberry world. I will not lie, I did hesitate to leave my Blackberry 8900 even after tracking the TP2 for like a month. Blackberry has nothing on HTC TP2.
I guess imma just shut up and get it haha. sorry for not using the search function. just got really curious
Pros:
the lovely, lovely physical keyboard - I just can't tell you how useful this is;
large, bright, high-res screen (3.6", 800x480);
excellent support from this website;
very good call quality (so long as you don't get the T-mobile version);
some very neat business-oriented features (e.g. if you put the phone down face-down in mid conversation it automatically switches to speaker-phone);
noise-cancelling so other people can hear you clearly over traffic;
TouchFLO interface is quite nice;
running Windows Mobile means a huge range of downloadable apps;
built-in Word, Excel and Powerpoint support.
Cons:
not everyone likes Windows Mobile, and you find yourself dumped into it more often than you'd expect - this also limits you to 16-bit colour;
HTC and Qualcomm between them have somehow managed to arrange things so that 3rd party apps cannot make use of the GPU, which makes video playback decidedly iffy;
larger and much heavier than most phones (that's the price of the keyboard);
uses much the same hardware as phones released a year ago (much less powerful than an iPhone 3GS or even the latest Samsung models);
thoroughly mediocre camera with no flash;
no one version of the phone will work everywhere in the world (as far as I know);
most versions lack a 3.5mm headphone jack, so if you want to use anything other than the bundled headphones you need an adapter, and unless you have a very fancy adapter you can't listen to music on it and charge it at the same time;
unimpressive battery life;
resistive touch-screen is better than most, but less responsive than a capacitive screen and cannot ever support multi-touch (although a capacitive screen wouldn't allow you to use a stylus, so there are swings and roundabouts);
lack of on-board storage.
paid $900 for mine on ebay before official launch - been with it on safaris in Africa , paddled and plotted my course on lower Zambezi with hippos.... It's worth every cent.
AlCapone said:
paid $900 for mine on ebay before official launch - been with it on safaris in Africa , paddled and plotted my course on lower Zambezi with hippos.... It's worth every cent.
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wouldn't go that far but it is a great phone.
Saying that, like with every device I'd think seriously about what you want your phone to do.
I wanted a web browsing, business phone communicator. Its close to perfect.
If you're looking for a slim camera music player etc.? Stay well away.
Shasarak said:
resistive touch-screen is better than most, but less responsive than a capacitive screen and cannot ever support multi-touch (although a capacitive screen wouldn't allow you to use a stylus, so there are swings and roundabouts)
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Never say never
Especially the second one is a software only solution, since the Nokia 5800 also has a resistive touch screen.
http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/news/item/9051_Multi-touch_on_resistive_touch.php
http://www.electricpig.co.uk/2009/03/03/nokia-5800-gets-experimental-multitouch/
ryohazuki said:
So i'm thinking about getting a new phone, and i've been following the touch pro 2 for awhile since it was announced, and it's always caught my interest. Right now i'd be paying 350 since i'm under tmobile, i'm just wondering from peoples opinions is it worth it?
can someone layout the pros and the cons on the phone for me? thanks.
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I moved to this phone from a G1 (and an iPhone before that) on tmobile, and IMHO this is the best phone available with tmobile 3G right now. Fast, stable, and with WM you have tons of options for customizing/personalizing your handset. So far (had it about a week) i really see no cons with this device, if anything it'd be its size, but its not a complaint by me, its the same size as a G1.
Shasarak said:
Pros:
the lovely, lovely physical keyboard - I just can't tell you how useful this is;
large, bright, high-res screen (3.6", 800x480);
excellent support from this website;
very good call quality (so long as you don't get the T-mobile version);
some very neat business-oriented features (e.g. if you put the phone down face-down in mid conversation it automatically switches to speaker-phone);
noise-cancelling so other people can hear you clearly over traffic;
TouchFLO interface is quite nice;
running Windows Mobile means a huge range of downloadable apps;
built-in Word, Excel and Powerpoint support.
Cons:
not everyone likes Windows Mobile, and you find yourself dumped into it more often than you'd expect - this also limits you to 16-bit colour;
HTC and Qualcomm between them have somehow managed to arrange things so that 3rd party apps cannot make use of the GPU, which makes video playback decidedly iffy;
larger and much heavier than most phones (that's the price of the keyboard);
uses much the same hardware as phones released a year ago (much less powerful than an iPhone 3GS or even the latest Samsung models);
thoroughly mediocre camera with no flash;
no one version of the phone will work everywhere in the world (as far as I know);
most versions lack a 3.5mm headphone jack, so if you want to use anything other than the bundled headphones you need an adapter, and unless you have a very fancy adapter you can't listen to music on it and charge it at the same time;
unimpressive battery life;
resistive touch-screen is better than most, but less responsive than a capacitive screen and cannot ever support multi-touch (although a capacitive screen wouldn't allow you to use a stylus, so there are swings and roundabouts);
lack of on-board storage.
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dunno if this is considered reviving a dead thread or anything thats my own but
the size isn't a problem for me, i've owned a windows mobile phone before and liked it but whats wrong with the tmobile version? and is the battery life really that bad?
I'm pleased with mine. Basically I had an MDA for almost 3 and a half years, with a short try of a Wing. Great winmobile phone, haven't had too much battery problems, phone quality seems ok, better than the MDA.
And the phone senses when it's close to your ear--no more false button pushes!
Cheers,
Tom
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but whats wrong with the tmobile version? and is the battery life really that bad?
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The t-mobile version is rather oddly configured. Most of what's wrong with it can be corrected (all in one hit if you don't mind flashing it with a different ROM) but it's a little fiddly. For example, the in-call volume seems to be lower on the t-mobile version - people complain that the sound is too quiet and "muffled". I believe this can be fixed by replacing a file with the equivalent from an unbranded phone, but it's still a fiddle if you expect things to work properly out of the box. I think the t-mobile version may also be set up to use Internet Explorer rather than Opera as the default browser. Again, it's not difficult to change this, it's just annoying.
The battery life is okay, but not great. If you're watching video clips or gaming you can completely drain a fully-charged battery in 3-4 hours.
Btw, one important draw-back that I forgot to mention is the lack of a D-pad - that's a real problem if you're a gamer.
General concensus for veteran WM users i found here is that almost all quite satisfied with TP2 out of the box, since these persons are coming from previous devices and know-well that TP2 is the 1st time HTC (almost) do it perfectly. In condition they didn't receive defect unit.
For new WM users, i see 50-50. But that's improvement, because with previous devices it can be as much as 20-80 (80% unsatisfied), with 20% are looking for ways to improve their devices. That's why now we have this great forum
i have the original EU version of this device and i must say that this is the best phone i used ever , and believe me i switch mobiles like socks ...
the most important thing for me is the stability of the OS , in my case i havnt done any soft reset since i got this device three weeks ago ( depens on your ROM version ect...)
another good thing is the speaker phone , try to compare it to the iphone 3gs and you will notice a big diffrence,
schizo said:
General concensus for veteran WM users i found here is that almost all quite satisfied with TP2 out of the box, since these persons are coming from previous devices and know-well that TP2 is the 1st time HTC (almost) do it perfectly. In condition they didn't receive defect unit.
For new WM users, i see 50-50. But that's improvement, because with previous devices it can be as much as 20-80 (80% unsatisfied), with 20% are looking for ways to improve their devices. That's why now we have this great forum
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I would consider myself a wm vet, this is my 4rth wm phone and the TP2 if I purchase it will be my 5th. I can hardly run my TP at times because it is so slow. I have everything on my class 6 sd and some apps on my phone which is minimal. I am running nrg rom latest and I must say it is slow as balls.
I might even skip the tp2 because it shares the same chipset for att as the tp. Making it slow as balls but with a much larger screen. My favorite warez website just opened an Iphone section. all apps available, Gui much better, mms hacked, better graphics, shes lookin alot better these days. The tp2 just aint cuttin it as far as performance. I might just make the switch until HTC and winmo get there act together. Truely sad as I've been an iphone and apple hater for quite sometime. The truth is the tp2 lacks everything except the screen and keyboard. Winmo and htc are pushing me out with these piece of **** phones.
eh I might still get the tp2. I am seriously looking for reasons not to get the Icrap. Flame on aholes..
Well I've had the T-mobile version for about a month now and I have to say its pure Winsuace!!! Now as for the same chip set as the touch pro , that's not exactly ture. If you look around on the fourms, some one posted a link about where there was a dispute between Qulacom and another chipmaker about the cpu. So because of that the Touch Pros cpu contained some work arounds so it could be used and that made it slower. On the TP2 it contains no workarounds and its pretty snappy! Also I run a bunch of apps at once and it doesn't bog down So here's my two thumbs up!!!
i really dont see nothing wrong wit the tmo version of this phone.. besides the lack of 3.5mm jack and color change from the Euro version..
But the stock rom that comes with the phone is a bit off.. i had to flash it the first day i got it
but i wouldn't mind taking a euro version over the tmo one anyday.. one major reason that stop me from gettng the euro one is that it do not have 3G US bands on it.
Well it's too late now as I am now a proud owner of a Touch Pro 2
I love this thing already. flashed it with a new rom, whats the best radio to use? i'm not too familiar with the whole radio flashing thing like as in like whats the best one to use, so if someone could point me in the right direction? if not ill just search it.
Well it's too late now as I am now a proud owner of a Touch Pro 2
I love this thing already. flashed it with a new rom, whats the best radio to use? i'm not too familiar with the whole radio flashing thing like as in like whats the best one to use, so if someone could point me in the right direction? if not ill just search it.
Hey so I have received an upgrade for a free 4G LTE phone from Verizon. I wanted to take any suggestions as to getting a Galaxy Nexus or a Droid Razr Maxx(for battery life). I root my phones so stock software is not an issue for me. I would also like to wait for the galaxy SIII but seeing as I am low on money might just have to take the free phone. Thanks for the suggestions also any other phone ideas would be welcome must be 4g LTE though.
P.S. will donate my Dinc to a developer when I get a new phone. Seeing as the developers have been great to me with AMAZING rom support.
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Hey so I have received an upgrade for a free 4G LTE phone from Verizon. I wanted to take any suggestions as to getting a Galaxy Nexus or a Droid Razr Maxx(for battery life). I root my phones so stock software is not an issue for me. I would also like to wait for the galaxy SIII but seeing as I am low on money might just have to take the free phone. Thanks for the suggestions also any other phone ideas would be welcome must be 4g LTE though.
P.S. will donate my Dinc to a developer when I get a new phone. Seeing as the developers have been great to me with AMAZING rom support.
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Go with the rezound its only $50 bucks I believe to upgrade to
Rezound also has great devs that used to have the Inc.
I'm waiting for the Dinc 4g and it's S4 processor rumored to be released next week..
I love Galaxy Nexus and it has great devs from multiple phones so you get such a variety and a huge ROM community.
Razr Maxx may be a while before true root is obtained as Motorola loves to lockdown their bootloaders.
mben1287 said:
Hey so I have received an upgrade for a free 4G LTE phone from Verizon. I wanted to take any suggestions as to getting a Galaxy Nexus or a Droid Razr Maxx(for battery life). I root my phones so stock software is not an issue for me. I would also like to wait for the galaxy SIII but seeing as I am low on money might just have to take the free phone. Thanks for the suggestions also any other phone ideas would be welcome must be 4g LTE though.
P.S. will donate my Dinc to a developer when I get a new phone. Seeing as the developers have been great to me with AMAZING rom support.
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I'm waiting for the Incredible 4G, but if you're strapped for cash then the Rezound should serve you well. Keep in mind, Verizon will be instituting an extra $30 charge to upgrade (regardless of the price of the phone) starting on 4/22 so you better act quick if you want the Rezound for $50. That said, if you can scrounge up the dough, the Incredible 4G will be a much nicer phone (as long as you're OK with the screen size).
I just replaced my Incredible with one of the $50 Rezounds and I'm loving it. The Devs are kicking out some awesome ROMs for it.
The Incredible 4G doesn't seem like it would be a massive upgrade from the Rezound. From everything I could find on expected specs:
Dual Core 1.5ghz S3 -> Dual Core 1.2ghz S4
16gb internal storage -> 8gb
720p 1280x720 screen -> qHD 960x540 screen
GB w/ Sense 3.5 -> ICS w/ Sense 4.0 (of course, the stock ROM is only relevant for the first 20 minutes or so of ownership )
I can't comment on the performance difference between the two chips, but after spending a week or so with the Rezound's 720p screen, I'm not too excited about giving it up. Am I missing something here?
Maybe I'm stuck in the past, but I like having 4 soft buttons too. I use all four frequently.
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Wound up going with the droid razr maxx. Since i use so mich data they said any 4g phone free. I just had to pay $20 upgrade fee. Must say almost a day in n its a pretty slick phone havent had a chance to check out roms, just rooted ot last night n now im working all day.
TunedReference said:
I just replaced my Incredible with one of the $50 Rezounds and I'm loving it. The Devs are kicking out some awesome ROMs for it.
The Incredible 4G doesn't seem like it would be a massive upgrade from the Rezound. From everything I could find on expected specs:
Dual Core 1.5ghz S3 -> Dual Core 1.2ghz S4
16gb internal storage -> 8gb
720p 1280x720 screen -> qHD 960x540 screen
GB w/ Sense 3.5 -> ICS w/ Sense 4.0 (of course, the stock ROM is only relevant for the first 20 minutes or so of ownership )
I can't comment on the performance difference between the two chips, but after spending a week or so with the Rezound's 720p screen, I'm not too excited about giving it up. Am I missing something here?
Maybe I'm stuck in the past, but I like having 4 soft buttons too. I use all four frequently.
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I have to disagree... the Inc 4G is a massive upgrade over the Rezound (again, unless the 4" screen is a non starter).
The difference performance-wise from the S3 to the S4 should be like night and day.
The S4 will also greatly improve battery life, so it's a double plus.
The camera on the Incredible 4G should be amazing. Initial reports from the people who have supplied the leaked photos suggest that it will likely have the same caliber camera as on the One X/S series.
In addition to the performance, features, and battery gains, it will also be thinner and lighter than the Rezound (which IMHO is a bit brick-ish)
The Inc 4G also has NFC and Bluetooth 4.0. These may not be important for someone today, but they may be good to have if you plan on keeping your phone for the full 2 year contract (as I imagine most people do)
I think the ICS/Sense 4 without having to root is a big plus too. It may not be as important for folks here on xda, but as far as recommending phones to others goes... that is big. Even here on XDA, I imagine I'm probably not the only person who waits for the warranty to expire before messing around with rooting and such.
Yes, the Rezound does have bigger internal storage, but microSD cards are super cheap so it's not really a factor. Most phones that support microSD (the Incr 4G does too) support up to 32GB on the card, so you can get up to 40GB on the Inc 4G. Sure, that means you can get 48 with the Rezound, but I'm guessing only a small percentage of people fall into the 40GB isn't enough, but 48GB is camp.
Really, the only reason why anyone should get the Rezound is for the screen or the price. Price is the only reason I even mentioned it in the first place (because the OP wanted to save some money). FWIW though, rumors on the price of the Inc 4G put it perhaps at $150, which even after Verizon's new $30 upgrade charge would be less than the original Inc cost.
Not trying to hate on the Rezound... it's a great phone. I'm just taking issue with the "doesn't seem like it would be a massive upgrade " part of the comment. As long as you're OK with the 4" screen (which a lot of people are, and a lot of people have been begging for) then the Rezound doesn't even compare.
EDIT: I'm with you on the 4 buttons though. I don't really care about menu that much, since most devs are starting to get with the program and include the menu option on screen (via action bar overflow, or some other method). The loss of the search button, though, is devastating. It essentially killed Google Voice Actions for me. I would've rather seen on-screen buttons than the cap buttons. That way, devs could add my search button back in for me.
Yes the Rezound was on my list of possibilites... I wanted to wait and see the Galaxy SIII if Verizon gets it and the Inc 4G, but the issue was the voucher I got didn't have an expiration date and I didn't want it to expire and wind up having to pay full price for a phone. So since Verizon loved me eating up all their 3G data they gave me a $300 dollar Razr Maxx FO FREE!
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I have to disagree... the Inc 4G is a massive upgrade over the Rezound (again, unless the 4" screen is a non starter).
The difference performance-wise from the S3 to the S4 should be like night and day.
The S4 will also greatly improve battery life, so it's a double plus.
The camera on the Incredible 4G should be amazing. Initial reports from the people who have supplied the leaked photos suggest that it will likely have the same caliber camera as on the One X/S series.
In addition to the performance, features, and battery gains, it will also be thinner and lighter than the Rezound (which IMHO is a bit brick-ish)
The Inc 4G also has NFC and Bluetooth 4.0. These may not be important for someone today, but they may be good to have if you plan on keeping your phone for the full 2 year contract (as I imagine most people do)
I think the ICS/Sense 4 without having to root is a big plus too. It may not be as important for folks here on xda, but as far as recommending phones to others goes... that is big. Even here on XDA, I imagine I'm probably not the only person who waits for the warranty to expire before messing around with rooting and such.
Yes, the Rezound does have bigger internal storage, but microSD cards are super cheap so it's not really a factor. Most phones that support microSD (the Incr 4G does too) support up to 32GB on the card, so you can get up to 40GB on the Inc 4G. Sure, that means you can get 48 with the Rezound, but I'm guessing only a small percentage of people fall into the 40GB isn't enough, but 48GB is camp.
Really, the only reason why anyone should get the Rezound is for the screen or the price. Price is the only reason I even mentioned it in the first place (because the OP wanted to save some money). FWIW though, rumors on the price of the Inc 4G put it perhaps at $150, which even after Verizon's new $30 upgrade charge would be less than the original Inc cost.
Not trying to hate on the Rezound... it's a great phone. I'm just taking issue with the "doesn't seem like it would be a massive upgrade " part of the comment. As long as you're OK with the 4" screen (which a lot of people are, and a lot of people have been begging for) then the Rezound doesn't even compare.
EDIT: I'm with you on the 4 buttons though. I don't really care about menu that much, since most devs are starting to get with the program and include the menu option on screen (via action bar overflow, or some other method). The loss of the search button, though, is devastating. It essentially killed Google Voice Actions for me. I would've rather seen on-screen buttons than the cap buttons. That way, devs could add my search button back in for me.
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My previous post and the line you quoted wasn't intending to diminish the Incredible 4G, more to ask what I was missing. A lot of the items you listed like performance gains, battery life, size and feel are hard to get a feel for "how much" from reading the quick previews on Engadget and the like, especially given my perspective of feeling the Rezound is so much faster with such a nicer screen compared to the original Incredible I just replaced.
I mostly questioned how much of an upgrade it would be when I read about the screen resolution, being one of the things that impresses me most about the Rezound. There is obviously more to the story.
Thank you for the insight.
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My previous post and the line you quoted wasn't intending to diminish the Incredible 4G, more to ask what I was missing. A lot of the items you listed like performance gains, battery life, size and feel are hard to get a feel for "how much" from reading the quick previews on Engadget and the like, especially given my perspective of feeling the Rezound is so much faster with such a nicer screen compared to the original Incredible I just replaced.
I mostly questioned how much of an upgrade it would be when I read about the screen resolution, being one of the things that impresses me most about the Rezound. There is obviously more to the story.
Thank you for the insight.
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Yea, coming from the original Incredible even the S3 in the Rezound is pretty mind-blowing. The S4 should give a little bit of future-proofing though, which is good when you're locked into a two year contract.
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Yes the Rezound was on my list of possibilites... I wanted to wait and see the Galaxy SIII if Verizon gets it and the Inc 4G, but the issue was the voucher I got didn't have an expiration date and I didn't want it to expire and wind up having to pay full price for a phone. So since Verizon loved me eating up all their 3G data they gave me a $300 dollar Razr Maxx FO FREE!
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Temporarily using a Blackberry 9650 while I decide which phone I want to buy. Had the EVO LTE for a few weeks last month and I enjoyed it, but did notice a couple of glaring performance issues mainly when heavily multi-tasking. I'm going to walk into the Sprint store today and have some hands-on with the GS3 to see if I can replicate these kinds of problems on it also (seeing as they run the same SoC).
So what made you pick one over the other? The main reason I'm leaning toward the GS3 now is because of the 2gb of RAM, which makes it seem a little more future proof. The EVO LTE looks and feels better, and also has a better camera (although I really don't like HTC's camera software). The screens are both great. Another thing that really worries me about the GS3 is radio/GPS issues. The EVO LTE was great in this department, and historically this hasn't been Samsung's strongpoint, so if anyone who has the phone and would like to chime in please feel free!
Sorry if this gets asked a lot, and I know that "just try them both and pick whichever you prefer" seems best for most, but I'm the type of person that also likes to get opinions from other techies, just in case there's something I'm overlooking
I heard the EVO has a "reboot problem" in the OS, causing it to randomly reboot often. As far as hardware goes, the EVO might just have the upper hand (I'm speaking mostly due to camera).
What contributes to the opinion that the camera is better on the EVO? I feel quite the opposite. I hear the new Sense is like dropping anchor at full speed. I also bow to the mighty God Odin, fixer of bootloops restorer of stock roms. I like the Gorilla Glass, not sure if EVO has been upgraded to that. Samsung does take forever with updates (though we've had 2 already) but they don't release crap updates. Either HTC has some whiny fans or their updates aren't really top-notch. Samsung phones tend to feel more organic in shape in my hand. I find it to be the difference between driving and older honda versus an old volvo. Some people love boxy. I also feel like Samsung is headed in the right direction. After HTC lost the Nexus they seemed to lose their steam. At thsi point Apple is looking desperate against the momentum of Samsung. Makes me feel like I'm backing a strong horse.
I personally just think I've seen it all with sense, one of my major reasons was that I had a galaxy note before the evo lte and I got use to the feeling of big phones, I found the evo to be a bit too narrow, the s3 is slightly wider. Also multi tasking was kinda horrible on the evo lte. With that being said I didn't root the evo because I had the intention of returning it for the s3 from day one, so maybe i would've enjoyed it more if it was rooted
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2GB RAM, removable battery, removable/additional storage through MicroSD (up to 64GB).
Another thing that really worries me about the GS3 is radio/GPS issues
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I can't speak for everyone but here on Long Island those issues haven't existed or manifested themselves. Cell radio is fine, 3G coverage is the same as not better then my previous phone (Original Galaxy, Epic 4G) and GPS has been super quick to lock (after the hassle that was the Epic in terms of GPS it's like night and day, and I use GPS for my work every day at least 3 times a day).
Also I haven't played enough with the new Sense but the new version of Touchwiz overall is full of good customization and doesn't seem to be too annoying (out of the box it can be, but you can adjust most of it away).
Overall it's hard to find too much fault, some people find issues with AMOLED screens, and while the 'haze' was noticeable on my Epic up close, the GS3 has such a high PPI that I don't notice it.
Few things that turned me off of the EVO LTE: No removable storage, No swappable battery (GS3 does actually get very good battery life but I'm a power-user by habit and always like to have a quick-swap spare available) and that EpicCM team wasn't a part of the community (I'm sure the EVO has wonderful dev's as well, a buddy of mine does dev for it with the at&t version, but after following the CM7->CM9 progress on the Epic, as well as all the rest of the Sprint/Samsung dev community, I'm happy to stick with it).
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What contributes to the opinion that the camera is better on the EVO? I feel quite the opposite. I hear the new Sense is like dropping anchor at full speed. I also bow to the mighty God Odin, fixer of bootloops restorer of stock roms. I like the Gorilla Glass, not sure if EVO has been upgraded to that. Samsung does take forever with updates (though we've had 2 already) but they don't release crap updates. Either HTC has some whiny fans or their updates aren't really top-notch. Samsung phones tend to feel more organic in shape in my hand. I find it to be the difference between driving and older honda versus an old volvo. Some people love boxy. I also feel like Samsung is headed in the right direction. After HTC lost the Nexus they seemed to lose their steam. At thsi point Apple is looking desperate against the momentum of Samsung. Makes me feel like I'm backing a strong horse.
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Well the HTC One X camera uses a BSI sensor and f/2.0 lens. What it translates to in real-world usage is anyone's guess, but on paper the camera is supposed to be better.
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2GB RAM, removable battery, removable/additional storage through MicroSD (up to 64GB).
I can't speak for everyone but here on Long Island those issues haven't existed or manifested themselves. Cell radio is fine, 3G coverage is the same as not better then my previous phone (Original Galaxy, Epic 4G) and GPS has been super quick to lock (after the hassle that was the Epic in terms of GPS it's like night and day, and I use GPS for my work every day at least 3 times a day).
Also I haven't played enough with the new Sense but the new version of Touchwiz overall is full of good customization and doesn't seem to be too annoying (out of the box it can be, but you can adjust most of it away).
Overall it's hard to find too much fault, some people find issues with AMOLED screens, and while the 'haze' was noticeable on my Epic up close, the GS3 has such a high PPI that I don't notice it.
Few things that turned me off of the EVO LTE: No removable storage, No swappable battery (GS3 does actually get very good battery life but I'm a power-user by habit and always like to have a quick-swap spare available) and that EpicCM team wasn't a part of the community (I'm sure the EVO has wonderful dev's as well, a buddy of mine does dev for it with the at&t version, but after following the CM7->CM9 progress on the Epic, as well as all the rest of the Sprint/Samsung dev community, I'm happy to stick with it).
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The EVO LTE also has a MicroSD slot , but you're right, now removable battery. Although personally that was never really a negative since it was ample size (2000mah).
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The EVO LTE also has a MicroSD slot , but you're right, now removable battery. Although personally that was never really a negative since it was ample size (2000mah).
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Oh, apparently I was wrong about that, is it the one x that doesn't? maybe I'm going crazy
The only thing that I can say that I didn't like about the evo was: the non removable battery, lack of multitasking. But I do miss the screen and that awesome camera button.
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I had the evo lte and loved it but the only thing tgat annoyed me was the weak antenna it woukd always drop dignal and also the evo lte has better cam than sg3 and also evo lte feels more sturdy the sg3 is a goid phone also pretty fast and good multy tasking i dont mind the non removable vattery on evo lte but both great phones also negative about sg3 ut feels very plasticky
Im on my SG3
SG3:
Good:
easy to root, install rom
removable battery
universal accessories (all versions including international can use same accessories)
very good loudspeaker
Bad:
battery drains quick compare to the Evo Lte
it does not feel like solid phone (like it can break easily)
slow charging (as with most Samsung)
Evo LTE:
Good:
Excellent battery life
Excellent fit and finish
Phone feels solid
kickstand
camera
music player with soundhound integration
fast charging (as with most HTC phones)
Bad:
non removable battery (my biggest complaint) I stream sports videos a lot so I go through batteries like crazy
dialer cannot send text, have to use messaging app separately
when you click on a phone number from a link or text you are forced to use the phone/dial pad instead of the messaging app (very annoying) I think it is Apple lawsuit related
no quick toggles from drop down menu
loudspeaker volume is too low
Man, I was heavily leaning towards the GS3 until today. I went to the Sprint store on my lunch break and played with both phones extensively, and in the end the GS3 suffered from the same performance issues the LTEVO did, so I'm guessing it's maybe related to ICS? To be more specific, I'm picky. I like having a phone that switches from task to task very quickly (I felt my Epic 4G Touch did that very well). So for example, if I'm on the app store downloading app after app, the phones will begin to slow a little during installs if I switching from screen to screen. I thought at first it was maybe the LTEVO, but I was able to replicate that behavior on the GS3 also, so it's safe to say that the 2gb of RAM isn't really needed, or is at least not helping any of the "real world" tests I tried.
Also, the camera on the LTEVO is quite a bit better. It was both faster, and offered better quality shots more consistently. HTC's camera software absolutely sucks, but I think the camera unit is better. I tested the macro settings and they were significantly better on the LTEVO. Basically, I could focus on things closer to the lens compared to the GS3.
So I think I'm going to pick the LTEVO again. I don't want anyone to think that I'm bashing the GS3. In all honesty either of those phones are an absolute great choice since they are extremely similar where it counts, and really only different in the personal preference areas (such as look, build, removable battery, etc). Performance is just about the same on both phones. I hope this thread was as helpful to someone else as it was to me
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SG3:
Good:
easy to root, install rom
removable battery
universal accessories (all versions including international can use same accessories)
very good loudspeaker
Bad:
battery drains quick compare to the Evo Lte
it does not feel like solid phone (like it can break easily)
slow charging (as with most Samsung)
Evo LTE:
Good:
Excellent battery life
Excellent fit and finish
Phone feels solid
kickstand
camera
music player with soundhound integration
fast charging (as with most HTC phones)
Bad:
non removable battery (my biggest complaint) I stream sports videos a lot so I go through batteries like crazy
dialer cannot send text, have to use messaging app separately
when you click on a phone number from a link or text you are forced to use the phone/dial pad instead of the messaging app (very annoying) I think it is Apple lawsuit related
no quick toggles from drop down menu
loudspeaker volume is too low
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For the EVO LTE bad list, you sound like you're nitpicking for a longer list. How many people send texts through the dialer? The HTCLinkify thing can be removed (so the click on a phone number thing is fixable), the EVO LTE has a button in the notification to get into settings (not as good as toggles, but not as bad as "nothing"). the loud speaker being too low is arbitrary.
You also left out some cons for the SGS3. There's a LOT of proprietary software that isn't very good (sounds like Sense doesn't it?), S-Voice is a gimmick.
There's just as many Sense haters as there are Touchwiz haters...it all comes down to preference. I'm going for the LTE because it's many of the same developers who's softwares I've been using since the OG EVO. Can't beat that pedigree. For most people, though, it's a question of would they rather be bloated down by Touchwiz and have a blue phone or be bloated down by HTC Sense and have a black phone with a kickstand. Otherwise, the specs are too identical to even consider voting one way or the other.
I was in love with the new evo, and when I saw my employee pricing through best buy for the gs3 I fell in love with it more ahaha. Some doof in corporate marked it 350 off contract so I traded in my 3d and it payed for it. But after playing with my friends evo, I realized that I liked my phone better. Touchwiz 5 is great IMO and I was ready to try something other than a HTC phone.
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What contributes to the opinion that the camera is better on the EVO? I feel quite the opposite. I hear the new Sense is like dropping anchor at full speed. I also bow to the mighty God Odin, fixer of bootloops restorer of stock roms. I like the Gorilla Glass, not sure if EVO has been upgraded to that. Samsung does take forever with updates (though we've had 2 already) but they don't release crap updates. Either HTC has some whiny fans or their updates aren't really top-notch. Samsung phones tend to feel more organic in shape in my hand. I find it to be the difference between driving and older honda versus an old volvo. Some people love boxy. I also feel like Samsung is headed in the right direction. After HTC lost the Nexus they seemed to lose their steam. At thsi point Apple is looking desperate against the momentum of Samsung. Makes me feel like I'm backing a strong horse.
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Yes Odin is awesome
I completely agree
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I owned both and I really wanted to like the evo lte over the s3. I really liked the screen of the evo lte, kickstand, build quality, the dedicated camera button, it was black, and the overall look of it was very cool. It's a shame that the way the multitasking worked on it was really retarded (not sure if this could be fixed by a software update or custom rom). Not only that but the lack of a replaceable battery is really a killer too.
I guess the s3 won me over because of the replaceable battery, the crazy development that will be going on for it, the fact that multitasking didn't have to reload every single time I changed back to a program, and how I could keep programs in my memory to make them smoother (2gb).
there are already a ton of gs3 vs evolte threads bro
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I owned both and I really wanted to like the evo lte over the s3. I really liked the screen of the evo lte, kickstand, build quality, the dedicated camera button, it was black, and the overall look of it was very cool. It's a shame that the way the multitasking worked on it was really retarded (not sure if this could be fixed by a software update or custom rom). Not only that but the lack of a replaceable battery is really a killer too.
I guess the s3 won me over because of the replaceable battery, the crazy development that will be going on for it, the fact that multitasking didn't have to reload every single time I changed back to a program, and how I could keep programs in my memory to make them smoother (2gb).
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Exactly my experience and thoughts. +1
Before even reading the rest of the replies I'll post my 2¢. Just picked up the Galaxy S3 on Monday evening.
I had the EVO 4G original at release and LOVED LOVED LOVED IT - then last June it, along with half my electronics at home, was the victim of a lightning hit down the alley on one of the transformers. Fortunately my computer gear survived. But I digress. From the EVO 4G I went to the EVO 3D, which, while the phone itself was OK, there wasn't as much of a development community out there for it as some other phones, my OG EVO especially. Cyanogen never came out for it in a year, and battery life ended up being worse and worse over time. If I'd kept the OG EVO I'd probably have been in a much different frame of mind regarding HTC's phones, but the 3D was just not their greatest hit.
Ultimately, I was torn between the 4G LTE and S3 - got both in my hands to play with and was still torn. Ultimately, I didn't want another HTC 'black slab' and I learned to dislike Sense more and more, since many of the higher functioning ROMs out there were Sense-based and I had to run ADW or another launcher on top of it.
So far I couldn't be happier with my choice. I got the blue, no case (maybe I will), and have not rooted (yet). I like the touchwiz interface, have pared down my homescreens to only 4 like I prefer, and battery life is outstanding! I am going to let it discharge all the way and see how long I can squeeze out of it. It's the idle/standby time that is so outstanding in my mind. Only a few percentage points gone overnight as opposed to 30-40% with the EVO 3D.
Oh, and the screen on this thing is amazing. So clear and sharp and beautiful...and as big as cellphone screens should ever get! Seriously.
Because of one thing - the name
Saying "Galaxy S3" is much easier than Saying "Sprint EVO 4G LTE". But don't listen to us. Walk, ride, skip or fly over to your nearest sprint store and see for yourself. The GS3 has 2GB of ram which is really awesome when multitasking. If you ask me all high end devices should have 2GB of ram. Other than that it's about the build. The EVO has a nicer screen, it feels like a solid brick that could hurt someone, and it has a kick stand. The GS3 feels soft like a babies bottom or a mammary and it looks super awesome also like a mammary. Amirite?
I actually feel differently on the aspect of development. I came from the OG EVO also, and dev support on that thing was amazing. From that I "upgraded" to the EVO 3D, but soon thereafter switched to the Epic 4G Touch as soon as it launched. Dev support just wasn't there for the EVO 3D. After I did some research, it made sense (no pun intended), but the EVO 3D was doomed from the start. What I mean by that is that it was never intended to be the true successor to the OG EVO, and thus not a lot of devs followed the device. Made perfect sense. The Epic 4G Touch had *better* dev support, but it still wasn't anywhere near what the OG EVO had.
I guess either way it's too early to tell which of the two (LTEVO and GS3) is going to have better dev support, but for some reason my gut is telling me that the LTEVO will.
I don't know if I agree with the 2gb of RAM on a phone just yet. iOS is a pretty crappy multi-tasking OS, yet the iPhone 4S only has 512mb of RAM and it's still a very good performing phone by today's standards. I also tested the SG3 (as mentioned in one of my previous posts), and it suffered from the same performance issues the LTEVO did when running it through my personal "real world" tests. So at least in my experience, the 2gb didn't seem to help the SG3.
Either way, both great phones. No clear winner over the other, when taking everything into consideration
Is it worth buying the Captivate Glide? Is there a more powerfull better option then the glide with a qwerty keyboard? How is the development for the glide ? and is the bootloader unlocked? How's the battery Life?
I was considering buying Captivate Glide because of the qwerty keyboard.. Also I currently have an LG Optimus 2x which is very similar in terms of specs.. But currently the optimus 2x has very slow development.
I came from the Samsung Epic, which was a VERY supported phone. Lots of ROMs. When I got here a few months ago, we didn't have that many options -- LiteROM and Kernel were what we had. I took the plunge in October and bought a Glide, hoping that with a few strong developers, we'd get more support for the phone... and it has happened.
If you look in the Dev. forum right now, you'll see we have several ROMs now. I don't think the phone has a locked bootloader -- we can build custom recoveries and ROMs just fine.
Coming from the Epic, I've been pretty happy. The speed of the phone is much faster and the camera is much nicer. We can also support a 64GB microSDXC, which is nice. The only downside is that it has a four-row keyboard, instead of a 5-row, and the keys on it are not as tactile as one would hope, so typing blind takes a little bit of getting used to.
If you want to be on GSM, I think this is *the* phone to get. The only other that's really comparable is the Relay 4G on T-Mobile, but the camera isn't as good as the Glide's, imo. I think their processor may be a tad better, but not that much. I like their keyboard better, though.
I was able to get my Glide for $200 off contract. Relay 4G is $550 off contract, last I checked...
I think my Glide will have a good life and be applicable for another year or two. If/when we get a Slider Nexus, I will probably jump ship for that. It's a shame there aren't high-end GSM sliders.
Even now, the Glide remains the most powerful QWERTY slider available for GSM. I take that back, Relay 4G has a 1.7Ghz Snapdragon dualcore. Quite a good clip above what the Glide has.
Honestly, it's a question of carriers. Get the Captivate Glide if you need AT&T band UMTS/HSPDA+, get the Relay 4G if you need the T-mobile spectrum.
Extra caveat: If you get the Relay 4G, it will be MONTHS if not a year or more before you see custom ROMs. It doesn't even have its own forums yet. On the other hand, the Glide has CM10 right now and CM10.1 is really really close.
I love my glide!!! OC to 1.4ghz smartassv2 I am amazed at the speed. I got mine for $0.01 with Rogers Canada 2 year contract... Had to call them... Was even able to upgrade from my Torch BlackBerry 13 Months into contract
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The mytouch 4g slide has been the most powerful qwerty phone for quite some time now, only bested by the recent relay 4g. It is easily faster than the glide. Infinitely better camera too. Development is steadily coming along. Many roms to choose from
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Hey I need to post something here in order to provide feedback the developers section.. so I was just wondering if anybody have heard of high end captivate glide.. or maybe just another qwerty phone but with high end specs.. cause I love my glide but I'm starting to feel it laggy..
anyone?
Never heard of a Glide 2, and not even a new QWERTY slider. Photon Q and Relay 4G are by far the best QWERTYs on market and judging from how manufacturers are evading the thickness and (relatively) small package of QWERTY sliders, they may never release better ones...
I just don't get it: why can't there be a 5 inch slider? That won't be thick at all and will have super big and comfy keys...
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oh cool dind't know bout them..
the relay 4g seems faster.. but worse camera.. and still 4" display.. not much of an upgrade i think..
and the motorola one has better specs.. and 4.3".. but on screen home and back buttons take away some space.. and it looks ugly.. damn..
when I bought the glide it looked so sexy.. oh also looks like a non removal sim card so no unlocked version..
5 inches should be perfect.. are we really so few qwrty users? when are they going to understand that we humans neeed tactil feedback when typing
There really aren't very few of us, but most manufacturers see the keyboard as a gimmick. Most people don't care about it, but if folks who WANT QWERTY keyboards are still buying other phones, they're fine. I think probably 20% of the Android market (which is a lot!) care about having a QWERTY slider -- but of those people, 90% of them will buy a non-slider phone if necessary.
That being said, I think the next "evolution" of QWERTY's will be phone manufacturer's building bluetooth keyboard cases. I spoke with a few rep's for Motorola, and they said they would consider building a bluetooth keyboard case for the X-Phone if there was enough interest. Want a keyboard? Tell Motorola their original Droid line rocked -- and that we want a bluetooth keyboard case for the X Phone. Chances are, they're going to keep the same "phone" size/shape going forward for next year's X Phone's, so I can see us buying a "keyboard case" once for them and using it for several iterations.
I've contemplated the same thing -- could I just physically build a keyboard or 3D model a keyboard case that could be used on a standard bluetooth keyboard, and allow a user to 3D print (or pay me to 3D print) the enclosure/case for their phone? It'd be a lucrative business, no doubt, for someone to come up with a "standard" keyboard for Android devices and then allow folks to use that keyboard with different phones by providing different cases that would fit the phone + keyboard.
Per the Relay 4G. The camera sensor is supposedly better, but it doesn't have the same resolution depth... but I rarely go over 2 megapixels anyway. It also has a 5-row keyboard, from what I can remember and the processor is a bit faster (about 50%, I believe). The Captivate Glide is analogous to a Samsung Galaxy S 2.3 or so -- it's weird and kind of in between a 2 and 3. The Relay 4G is very firmly a Galay S 3. Better battery life as well, due to it being a Snapdragon processor.
I will probably be purchasing a Relay 4G in a few months so that I can switch to T-Mobile. I'd like to keep my Captivate Glide, because I have a feeling next year, we'll see some better QWERTY phones. Will they be GSM -- that is the question.
interesting..
i came up with conclusions too soon..
the relay seems great now that i give it a deeper look..
those shortcuts for sms or composing email in the seems awesome
50% faster processor.. nice..
i think the glide looks so much better but maybe it's time for an upgrade
Jolla will be next for me...
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qqisa said:
the relay 4g seems faster.. but worse camera.. and still 4" display.. not much of an upgrade i think..
and the motorola one has better specs.. and 4.3".. but on screen home and back buttons take away some space.. and it looks ugly.. damn..
when I bought the glide it looked so sexy.. oh also looks like a non removal sim card so no unlocked version..
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Relay 4G and Photon Q has the same CPU and RAM size, so equally fast. I see Relay's S3-esque design as obsolete, and PQ's backlit, huge keyboard is a big plus. Add in my preference for onscreen keys, I think PQ is vastly superior to Relay, with the mere obstacle being the price. For now I can snatch a like-new PQ for as high as ~$180, while Relay 4G was once available for ~$110, but sadly no one sells them now, which was why I purchased a Cappy Glide (~$90 is all I can afford)
Also, there is the xt897 variant for GSM and xt897c variant for CDMA. Both these variants and the Relay receives official CM10.2 nightlies. Fsck Samsung for not treating Glide as a Galaxy S2 family (Exynos42xx) device and using Tegra 2 instead.
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Jolla will be next for me...
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You do think Jolla can last longer than an N9?
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more qwertys
I read somewhere about an apple's patent on multitouch screens or on screen keyboards or something like that.. and the article concluded that it's probable that other manufactures than apple would have to come up with another typing experience.. and qwerty keyboards would probably be the future for android based phones.. does anybody know or have read anything deeper about this matter?