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Worth getting an incredible now, or waiting for Inc 2?

So I want a new phone.
I found one reseller near me that has 1 incredible in stock. Apprently it's the last one in the entire northeast. I like the incredible, I like the screen, like the size, don't like battery life, don't like no keyboard.
The Inc 2 (Vivo) is coming out soon. The only differences are a 4" screen (dislike, I hate big screen phones), 256 more RAM (no difference, Dinc is fas enough for me), and POSSIBLY better battery life (which would be a plus), don't like no keyboard. Inc2 will also have Wireless charging, but I doubt it will be any good, or portable
Another plus for the Dinc is that it's a "solved problem, root exists, it's been around for a while, there is tons of informaiotn on how to solve practically every concievable issue with the phone. Inc2 will be starting fresh, so ther's waiting for root, waiting for common issues to be sorted out, etc.
So which should I get? I hate the whole "whatever I pick, I'm stuck for 2 years" BS.

Personally I like the Incredible better then the Inc 2. I agree the big screen phones don't look good and not to mention require a man-purse to carry. Also agree that the inc has a huge tech base. All kinds of ROMs and themes. Another deal breaker for the inc2 is the screen is SLCD. I prefer AMOLED on my Dinc. Looks way cleaner and crisper.
My. 02
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Incredibles have SLCD now...
I've had an incredible since the day it came out. (4/29/10)
Its rock solid. With tweaking i can make it two days of mild to moderate use.
But if you want to go for a new phone, go for it. The incredible 2 will have 2 cameras, and a second gen processor. However, it looks plasticky, and its resolution is no better than the incredibles, so the screen, stretched out to 4 inches, will look lower quality. Don't expect great battery life either.
You might be wise to take a look at some of the other Verizon phones, like the thunderbolt, the droid bionic, etc...

The thuderbolt is even bigger than the Inc2. 4.3" is just too big for a handheld device. I have no desire to carry around a dinner plate as my phone. On paper the Shift is the best (3.8" with keyboard) bt the build quality and hardware design are quite frankly crap. Slider sucks, terrible button placement, and a crappy screen.
Anyway, turns out the incredible that store thought they had in stock, they didn't. But Wirefly says they still have some for sale (for free, too boot, since this is a new Verizon account for me) so I'll order that tonight.
Since I'm getting the phone for free, think it's worth spending the $70 for the year long proteciton plan? I'm a little concerned that they don't cover "negligent loss", although I suppose if I do lose it I could always just tell them someone broke into my car and took it.
Let me take this chance to also say you guys are a prety awesome community, I've been frustrted and posted a bunch of whiny little ***** comments, and people still help me. You guys rule

Just ordered in an Incredible 1. Was in the same boat as you and decided that I didn't need all the extras that the 2 had to offer. Seriously, at some point, it is just more gadget that I am going to use (two cameras?).
Best protection you can buy, IMHO, is a good case (I prefer Otterbox, but there are a lot of good options). The deductable on some of those insurance plans will wipe out any value the Incredible may have had anyway.

i think its a dillema
in one think, this incredible allready 1 year old, so it's basically left in feature n tech
more ram I think more great
but if you get a reasonable price for this incredible why not ?
I'm also still use my incredible as my multimedia phone, i love it very much.

If you really want a keyboard, wait for the Merge.
I thought you still had some time left to get a 1 year contract.
Why not buy a used Inc or "like new but never used"? I bought mine on evilbay that way, and it was new, just had been activated and shut off.
You could actually make $ this way. Get a new phone, like the 'bolt, or even the Inc 2, at the contract price, sell it for a good profit, and then buy the Inc on eBay for much less than the new gen phones go for. Plenty of newish Incs to be had.

CJeep said:
If you really want a keyboard, wait for the Merge.
I thought you still had some time left to get a 1 year contract.
Why not buy a used Inc or "like new but never used"? I bought mine on evilbay that way, and it was new, just had been activated and shut off.
You could actually make $ this way. Get a new phone, like the 'bolt, or even the Inc 2, at the contract price, sell it for a good profit, and then buy the Inc on eBay for much less than the new gen phones go for. Plenty of newish Incs to be had.
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Sounds like the best idea. If you reread your OP, everything points to the incredible anyway.
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emkorial said:
So I want a new phone.
I found one reseller near me that has 1 incredible in stock. Apprently it's the last one in the entire northeast. I like the incredible, I like the screen, like the size, don't like battery life, don't like no keyboard.
The Inc 2 (Vivo) is coming out soon. The only differences are a 4" screen (dislike, I hate big screen phones), 256 more RAM (no difference, Dinc is fas enough for me), and POSSIBLY better battery life (which would be a plus), don't like no keyboard. Inc2 will also have Wireless charging, but I doubt it will be any good, or portable
Another plus for the Dinc is that it's a "solved problem, root exists, it's been around for a while, there is tons of informaiotn on how to solve practically every concievable issue with the phone. Inc2 will be starting fresh, so ther's waiting for root, waiting for common issues to be sorted out, etc.
So which should I get? I hate the whole "whatever I pick, I'm stuck for 2 years" BS.
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Honestly for you then I think you just answered your own question. Myself I think 3.7 is a bit too small. I'd like between 4 and 4.3. So the inc 2 will be mine one day...

I just got a Thunderbolt coming from an Incredible (coming from a Fascinate). I don't think say that you can't go wrong with the Incredible. It is solid in almost all areas. I used Juice Defender and then used Green Power while using a stock EVO battery and I didn't have any isssues with battery life. The Incredible has basically the same processor and is very snappy even when compared to any of the newest phones. I bought the Thunderbolt for the 4G speed and the front facing camera. I hardly use the front camera and the 4G speed is fast but I never have a strong signal to really take advantage of it. I use wifi 90% when I need internet so 3g on the Incredible is hardly noticed (3g isn't that bad for most things anyway) The larger screen is really nice and, to the contrary of what others say, doesn't require a man purse- fits in my pocket fine without a problem. However, in sum, I can honestly say that upgrading to a Thunderbolt isn't all that I thought it would be and I would be just fine with the Incredible.

I don't know why you would buy old technology at this point - the incredible is almost a year old. After having the incredible and using it more and more for browsing the net, I wish I had a little bit bigger screen. Maybe not the size of the Thunderbolt but tthe incredible 2 size would be perfect. Also, I upgraded to the extended battery on my incredible because the battery life is unbearable IMO even with root and custom roms. I haven't looked but I'd hope the Incredible 2 will have better battery life.

Finally found someone who had one in stock, wirefly.com had them, and it was free with a new line of service, which I needed (I'm coming from Sprint). So I sprung for the year long protection plan. Phone should be here Wed or Thu. I got 2 weeks to back out if something comes up.

meh... Incredible 2.

Id would go for the Incredible 2. It has a superior processor and more ram. Also bigger screens are not that cumbersome. If my friend who is 4'9" 90lbs and always wears tight pants with small pockets can lug around his Galaxy S all day I don't think its a problem. Also the DInc is being discontinued, after the gingerbread ota don't count on it getting newer versions of android except through custom roms, which will also die down when the devs get their upgrades. Not to mention all the other under the hood things HTC may have overhauled such as the motherbaord.

The 2 is a world phone you might want to get the thunderbolt that has the new sense UI and it'll get 2.3 update before the incredible. I'm on my incredible bow and love it but figure I would give you q little info if your planning on getting a new phone.
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I just got my Inc about a month ago so I'm stuck with it for a while, so far it's worth it to me, it gets the job done.

Incredible 2
I'd wait for the inc2 because of the front facing camera 768mb ram newer 1ghz snapdragon processor and 4 inch display which is a perfect size not to big or small and because it is a world phone and because it will get more updates than the original incredible THE INCREDIBLE 2 might even get the rumored Android Ice Cream Sandwhich which the incredible one will not get and the incredible one might not even get sense 2.0

cvbcbcmv said:
just get the incredible and love it. I have been loving mine. The keyboard is great and with a simple default profile on juice defender, a task killer, and a bump charge from time to time it is fine
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Nnnnnoooooooo task killer....noooo...nnoooooo

I bought my DInc off of CL for 200 back in December, so Im not stuck on a stupid Verizon contract. If you dont care about those things, then wait for a DInc2. My only fear about DInc2 and the Thunderbolt is that it may be severely locked down, which could hamper ROM development.

Thy have their pros and cons but if it is between the Incredible and Incredible 2 I say stick with the original. I2 has some cool extra's (2 camera's) but because the screen is larger and the resolution isn't any higher it won't look as sharp as D1.
If you want a newer phone I suggest the Thunderbolt or the Droid Bionic (that thing looks like it could be awesome!) but if you are fine with the incredible for a cheaper price it is a wise choice.

Motorola Triumph vs Glide

Hey all,
I got a Moto Triumph a while back and had some issues with hardware, bricked it once, etc. Virgin Mobile shipped me a refurb once and a brand new one when the refurb broke. Other than that, I've had great experience with it. Big screen, lots of custom rom support, and a very cheap plan ($35/month). With MIUI it feels like a very high-end phone and hasn't had a problem running anything I've thrown at it.
This past week I purchased a Glide from someone who was going back to their iphone after using their renewal. I was planning on turning around and selling it since they cut me a deal, but after playing with it a little bit and finding out that it is on the list for an official ICS upgrade, I actually am thinking about keeping it, selling the Triumph, and switching to Straight Talk. On paper, it looks like a much nicer phone than the Triumph, but without much development, it doesn't feel any faster. I would also consider switching for the extra coverage (although Virgin works reasonably well where I live). Then again, it's an extra $10/month and money's tight at the moment (graduating college soon).
Anyone have any thoughts on what they would do if they were in the same boat?

for me, if you like it then keep it.
In my case, I am glad to have the glide. Really, when I get the device, I have Galaxy S 2 LTE, HTC Raider, Moto RAZR, Evo 3D as my choices for upgrades.
Why I choose the glide? First android with HW Keyboard + Super AMOLED + Dual-Core.
About development, it is normal to see it like this, quiet, but I am not losing hope. the Infuse 4G thread was almost nothing at first 3-4 months since their forum was established. But if you look there now, it's as noisy as other forums.
So in other words, yes if I am in your shoes, I'll do the same.

Development has slowed because everyone is waiting for ICS. No reason to develop on gingerbread where ICS is around the corner. The glide rocks and I can tell you many of us love it for it's key features. Dual core and Keyboard with 1 gig or ram. Only thing I wish was that the battery lasted longer but I made do by buying extra batteries on ebay and an external charger for cheap.

Haha actually just traded mine for a gsm unlocked Razr Not only are they beastly in the specs department, but they're apparently worth quite a bit! Although I'm not a big fan of the keyboard, it is handy and the phone's def got the specs to back it up.

Sorry to see you leave the Glide, but if you are happy that's what counts.

What phone would you get?

Title basically says it all. If you are eligible for an upgrade, what phone would you get and why?

The new samsung galaxy s3 because i think the performance of the new exynos quad core processor would be great......like the old exynos on the galaxy s2
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I would also go for the Samsung Galaxy S 3. However, I would like to have a Rezound until then
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Galaxy Nexus for me. Hackability, perfect size, Nexus!

Owning a rebound I can tell you it is a great device. But the battery life is not the best, about 9 hrs moderate use ( the extended battery helps a lot but is bulky). The American version of the galaxy S3 will not have a quad core so I would recommend the rezound or nexus. Both great devices obviously the rezound has sense which I love but if your not into then the nexus would be your best bet.
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Why I would go Nexus over Rezound:
-development/hackability
-screen
-thinness
-AOSP device
-battery life (people who complain about it on nexus use stock battery and/or aren't rooted)
-software updates

I still wouldn't mind Galaxy Journal. Shame it's being released so late
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Inc4g lte if it has the same camera tech as the one series.

Amphibliam said:
Why I would go Nexus over Rezound:
-development/hackability
-screen
-thinness
-AOSP device
-battery life (people who complain about it on nexus use stock battery and/or aren't rooted)
-software updates
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I actually agree with what you say. The next phone I'm getting is most likely a Nexus (assuming Samsung is making it of course) unless Verizon screws us over and ditches the next Nexus. Otherwise I'm going with a GSIII or the iPhone.
"All of those bacon strips"

gsm nexus, or iphone. i can't stand the Android skins.

What would be even better it's if HTC got the next nexus device. Rumor is they were talking to google about it for jelly bean.
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if it was a choice of any phone out in verizon's current inventory (assuming i was burning an upgrade and paying vzw's prices...)
i wouldnt take any (which is why i havent)
reasons i wouldnt take: (all just my personal opinion, not remotely trying to influence anyone...everyone has their own likes/dislikes/needs)
nexus:
i like having the option of (insert oem skin) and aosp
radios are a bit iffy (most samsung devices are)
would get bored of swapping just between aokp and miui4
i personally wouldnt have anything to do for it
battery life is mixed (some report great batt life with kernels, others on same kernels disagree so meh)
rezound:
no working aosp, nor any aosp devs that (i think) can get ril worked out anytime soon
500 of the exact same sense roms
still officially on gb
battery debacle of the different voltage batts
not much for me to do for it (put out more of the same sense roms?)
(insert motorola device)
i wont buy motorola on principle
i hate blur so much it might as well not be an option for me
lg spectrum:
lol, i had to put this in here...no one bought it
future phones?!
certainly a lot for consideration, but too many unknowns to commit to one right now
sgs3:
even though its very likely that the verizon version (if indeed there is one) ships with a dual core s4 chip rather than quad core exynos, that would be ok in my book
a lot depends on pricepoint, actual release date (if it launches in september or something forget it), and the other developers that commit to it (if a billion others do, ill pass rather than do the same stuff they do)
and lets see what other things verizon does it to it (form factor change, etc)
galaxy note (journal):
more unknowns
is it launching? if so, when? (summer is too late for its q4 2011 specs)
is it really launching with gingerbread ?!?! (it would be a no buy just based on that, given samsung/vzw's terrible history with updating skinned sammy phones..or even the gnex for that matter)
inc 4g/inc3/inc lte/whatever its called:
ill *most* likely pick this device up assuming that
battery life is decent
will it have htc dev unlock support? (att one x doesnt seem to)
will the latest s-off for htc phones work with it? or is the chipset a no-go
i can find it on wirefly for around $200 on contract (not paying $300 on contract for it)
similar camera to the one series
i like the 4.0 inch screen size, and qhd is a nice bump in resolution
s4 processor w/ qhd res *should* lead to very good performance
native full sense 4 and ics is nice
native ics devices *should* be easier to get aosp working on, as its been speculated that the ril situation should be better than native gb phones (who knows though)
rumored htc note competitor:
umm, lets see how big it is really
how much it costs
how is battery life?
is it really going to have sense 5? what the heck is sense 5 lol
will it have htc dev unlock support? (att one x doesnt seem to)

Nit you pretty much summed up my thoughts on the Inc4G. I'd like to see what official cost is and if it's not too bad I may try and score one off contract. I was finding Nexus and Rezounds going for 200-300 on ebay barely used.
I'd skip the Nexus because honestly it seems like it's been pretty lackluster compared to expectations people had for it. I also am not a fan of the whole ICS Holo theme which is why I'm so drawn to Sense4.
SGIII did absolutely nothing for me. The press conference was boring and it looks like just another run of the mill Galaxy phone. Touchwiz is also horrid and really ugly.

nitsuj17 said:
if it was a choice of any phone out in verizon's current inventory (assuming i was burning an upgrade and paying vzw's prices...)
i wouldnt take any (which is why i havent)
reasons i wouldnt take: (all just my personal opinion, not remotely trying to influence anyone...everyone has their own likes/dislikes/needs)
nexus:
i like having the option of (insert oem skin) and aosp
radios are a bit iffy (most samsung devices are)
would get bored of swapping just between aokp and miui4
i personally wouldnt have anything to do for it
battery life is mixed (some report great batt life with kernels, others on same kernels disagree so meh)
rezound:
no working aosp, nor any aosp devs that (i think) can get ril worked out anytime soon
500 of the exact same sense roms
still officially on gb
battery debacle of the different voltage batts
not much for me to do for it (put out more of the same sense roms?)
(insert motorola device)
i wont buy motorola on principle
i hate blur so much it might as well not be an option for me
lg spectrum:
lol, i had to put this in here...no one bought it
future phones?!
certainly a lot for consideration, but too many unknowns to commit to one right now
sgs3:
even though its very likely that the verizon version (if indeed there is one) ships with a dual core s4 chip rather than quad core exynos, that would be ok in my book
a lot depends on pricepoint, actual release date (if it launches in september or something forget it), and the other developers that commit to it (if a billion others do, ill pass rather than do the same stuff they do)
and lets see what other things verizon does it to it (form factor change, etc)
galaxy note (journal):
more unknowns
is it launching? if so, when? (summer is too late for its q4 2011 specs)
is it really launching with gingerbread ?!?! (it would be a no buy just based on that, given samsung/vzw's terrible history with updating skinned sammy phones..or even the gnex for that matter)
inc 4g/inc3/inc lte/whatever its called:
ill *most* likely pick this device up assuming that
battery life is decent
will it have htc dev unlock support? (att one x doesnt seem to)
will the latest s-off for htc phones work with it? or is the chipset a no-go
i can find it on wirefly for around $200 on contract (not paying $300 on contract for it)
similar camera to the one series
i like the 4.0 inch screen size, and qhd is a nice bump in resolution
s4 processor w/ qhd res *should* lead to very good performance
native full sense 4 and ics is nice
native ics devices *should* be easier to get aosp working on, as its been speculated that the ril situation should be better than native gb phones (who knows though)
rumored htc note competitor:
umm, lets see how big it is really
how much it costs
how is battery life?
is it really going to have sense 5? what the heck is sense 5 lol
will it have htc dev unlock support? (att one x doesnt seem to)
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100% agree here.
I have an upgrade, I'll either, use my upgrade on the inc4g, and/or sell the Rez/trade for inc4g.
(this is assuming it has htc-dev unlock).

well I saw the announcement of the inc 4g..it cought my attention for sure. the OG inc was my first android phone, then I filed insurance claim nd got an inc2. Love em both. I didn't root until recently (2 months ago) and its really extended the life of the device in my eyes. So, I will probably wait to see what can be cooked up with the new inc with roms, ect.
Having worked at verizon stores and dealing with all the phones, I can honestly say that I would never own a samsung device....their phones just feel like cheap pieces of plastic.
The moto razr is a very nice looking phone, but having a sealed battery compartment kills it for me. Hopefully the new inc doesn't have that.
Also, in my experience, everthing lG makes is pretty much garbage...
So HTC and moto in a distant second for me personally.
I'm eligible now, and before I rooted I was ready to jump on the rezound...but I really like the 4" screen, and could care less about beats audio.
Since I rooted I realize that I can wait a little bit longer. I Would really like to see vzw get the one series here, but it sounds like those quad cores aren't playing nice with the LTE radio.

andybones said:
100% agree here.
I have an upgrade, I'll either, use my upgrade on the inc4g, and/or sell the Rez/trade for inc4g.
(this is assuming it has htc-dev unlock).
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Is the Rez not that good? I'm sitting on an upgrade as well. But I'm in no hurry to part with my Inc2. was looking at the Rezound a little though.
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jman42028 said:
well I saw the announcement of the inc 4g..it cought my attention for sure. the OG inc was my first android phone, then I filed insurance claim nd got an inc2. Love em both. I didn't root until recently (2 months ago) and its really extended the life of the device in my eyes. So, I will probably wait to see what can be cooked up with the new inc with roms, ect.
Having worked at verizon stores and dealing with all the phones, I can honestly say that I would never own a samsung device....their phones just feel like cheap pieces of plastic.
The moto razr is a very nice looking phone, but having a sealed battery compartment kills it for me. Hopefully the new inc doesn't have that.
Also, in my experience, everthing lG makes is pretty much garbage...
So HTC and moto in a distant second for me personally.
I'm eligible now, and before I rooted I was ready to jump on the rezound...but I really like the 4" screen, and could care less about beats audio.
Since I rooted I realize that I can wait a little bit longer. I Would really like to see vzw get the one series here, but it sounds like those quad cores aren't playing nice with the LTE radio.
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The OG Incredible was my first Android too! It was the perfect intro to Android. I had the original Samsung AMOLED screen, which was much nicer than the SLCD version (imho) so it was gorgeous, and was easy to root. I flashed so many roms on that phone. I'm really surprised I didn't wear out the nand chip. I traded that phone for a Fascinate, with which I had a love-hate relationship. That's where I really learned how to use ADB. I won an LG Revolution from Phone Arena a couple months later, which was okay, but the way that phone was coded together, it was impossible to do anything with it. Plus, is was LTE, so it didn't have working AOSP. No devs ever got the phone, so its development situation was a little lacking. I traded it for my DInc2 about a month after I got it and I've had this phone since August. I've been so much happier having an HTC again. After Sammy and LG, I've been confirmed in my OEM of choice. It's not like Moto is going to sway me. Haha
I pre-ordered the Evo LTE yesterday, as I'm jumping to Sprint. I got bumped off my contract by family because they wouldn't give me the billing account password after they changed it, so I couldn't pay my bill over the phone anymore. They told me I had to drive down 45 minutes every month to pay them, which I couldn't do because I had lost my car in an accident that wasn't even my fault. It sucked. I lost my unlimited data plan.
If I were still on Verizon, I'd be jumping for joy that the Inc4G is a One S variant. The One S outperforms the S4 version of the One X a bit because it's qHD, not 720p. Plus, 4" is the perfect screen size. I don't think I'm gonna like the 4.7" screen on the Evo LTE at first. I'll get used to it, but damn that's a huge phone.
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hoodieNation said:
Is the Rez not that good? I'm sitting on an upgrade as well. But I'm in no hurry to part with my Inc2. was looking at the Rezound a little though.
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i wouldnt use an upgrade on a 6/7 month old phone running an older s3 processor...but thats me

Does the S3 processor have that much of a huge difference then a S4 processor. Does it even matter since in about 3 months a S5 processor will come out. I remember when the S3 processor came out everyone was so hyped about how amazing it was, and now look at the way people talk about it...

jakob95 said:
Does the S3 processor have that much of a huge difference then a S4 processor. Does it even matter since in about 3 months a S5 processor will come out. I remember when the S3 processor came out everyone was so hyped about how amazing it was, and now look at the way people talk about it...
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well thats point, i wont buy something thats already older and tie myself for 20 months to it
and the thing with sense devices is that they historically a wasteland for dev support when another huge one comes out...so id bet you ll loose most of the rezound developers come the fall if verizon launches something that much better
now thats not to say other (new) devs wont step in, like the og inc and evo 4g saw...but stll
buy what you want obviously, but thats my take on things

[Sprint] Why the Galaxy S3 over the EVO LTE?

Temporarily using a Blackberry 9650 while I decide which phone I want to buy. Had the EVO LTE for a few weeks last month and I enjoyed it, but did notice a couple of glaring performance issues mainly when heavily multi-tasking. I'm going to walk into the Sprint store today and have some hands-on with the GS3 to see if I can replicate these kinds of problems on it also (seeing as they run the same SoC).
So what made you pick one over the other? The main reason I'm leaning toward the GS3 now is because of the 2gb of RAM, which makes it seem a little more future proof. The EVO LTE looks and feels better, and also has a better camera (although I really don't like HTC's camera software). The screens are both great. Another thing that really worries me about the GS3 is radio/GPS issues. The EVO LTE was great in this department, and historically this hasn't been Samsung's strongpoint, so if anyone who has the phone and would like to chime in please feel free!
Sorry if this gets asked a lot, and I know that "just try them both and pick whichever you prefer" seems best for most, but I'm the type of person that also likes to get opinions from other techies, just in case there's something I'm overlooking

I heard the EVO has a "reboot problem" in the OS, causing it to randomly reboot often. As far as hardware goes, the EVO might just have the upper hand (I'm speaking mostly due to camera).

What contributes to the opinion that the camera is better on the EVO? I feel quite the opposite. I hear the new Sense is like dropping anchor at full speed. I also bow to the mighty God Odin, fixer of bootloops restorer of stock roms. I like the Gorilla Glass, not sure if EVO has been upgraded to that. Samsung does take forever with updates (though we've had 2 already) but they don't release crap updates. Either HTC has some whiny fans or their updates aren't really top-notch. Samsung phones tend to feel more organic in shape in my hand. I find it to be the difference between driving and older honda versus an old volvo. Some people love boxy. I also feel like Samsung is headed in the right direction. After HTC lost the Nexus they seemed to lose their steam. At thsi point Apple is looking desperate against the momentum of Samsung. Makes me feel like I'm backing a strong horse.

I personally just think I've seen it all with sense, one of my major reasons was that I had a galaxy note before the evo lte and I got use to the feeling of big phones, I found the evo to be a bit too narrow, the s3 is slightly wider. Also multi tasking was kinda horrible on the evo lte. With that being said I didn't root the evo because I had the intention of returning it for the s3 from day one, so maybe i would've enjoyed it more if it was rooted
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2GB RAM, removable battery, removable/additional storage through MicroSD (up to 64GB).
Another thing that really worries me about the GS3 is radio/GPS issues
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I can't speak for everyone but here on Long Island those issues haven't existed or manifested themselves. Cell radio is fine, 3G coverage is the same as not better then my previous phone (Original Galaxy, Epic 4G) and GPS has been super quick to lock (after the hassle that was the Epic in terms of GPS it's like night and day, and I use GPS for my work every day at least 3 times a day).
Also I haven't played enough with the new Sense but the new version of Touchwiz overall is full of good customization and doesn't seem to be too annoying (out of the box it can be, but you can adjust most of it away).
Overall it's hard to find too much fault, some people find issues with AMOLED screens, and while the 'haze' was noticeable on my Epic up close, the GS3 has such a high PPI that I don't notice it.
Few things that turned me off of the EVO LTE: No removable storage, No swappable battery (GS3 does actually get very good battery life but I'm a power-user by habit and always like to have a quick-swap spare available) and that EpicCM team wasn't a part of the community (I'm sure the EVO has wonderful dev's as well, a buddy of mine does dev for it with the at&t version, but after following the CM7->CM9 progress on the Epic, as well as all the rest of the Sprint/Samsung dev community, I'm happy to stick with it).

The Root said:
What contributes to the opinion that the camera is better on the EVO? I feel quite the opposite. I hear the new Sense is like dropping anchor at full speed. I also bow to the mighty God Odin, fixer of bootloops restorer of stock roms. I like the Gorilla Glass, not sure if EVO has been upgraded to that. Samsung does take forever with updates (though we've had 2 already) but they don't release crap updates. Either HTC has some whiny fans or their updates aren't really top-notch. Samsung phones tend to feel more organic in shape in my hand. I find it to be the difference between driving and older honda versus an old volvo. Some people love boxy. I also feel like Samsung is headed in the right direction. After HTC lost the Nexus they seemed to lose their steam. At thsi point Apple is looking desperate against the momentum of Samsung. Makes me feel like I'm backing a strong horse.
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Well the HTC One X camera uses a BSI sensor and f/2.0 lens. What it translates to in real-world usage is anyone's guess, but on paper the camera is supposed to be better.
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2GB RAM, removable battery, removable/additional storage through MicroSD (up to 64GB).
I can't speak for everyone but here on Long Island those issues haven't existed or manifested themselves. Cell radio is fine, 3G coverage is the same as not better then my previous phone (Original Galaxy, Epic 4G) and GPS has been super quick to lock (after the hassle that was the Epic in terms of GPS it's like night and day, and I use GPS for my work every day at least 3 times a day).
Also I haven't played enough with the new Sense but the new version of Touchwiz overall is full of good customization and doesn't seem to be too annoying (out of the box it can be, but you can adjust most of it away).
Overall it's hard to find too much fault, some people find issues with AMOLED screens, and while the 'haze' was noticeable on my Epic up close, the GS3 has such a high PPI that I don't notice it.
Few things that turned me off of the EVO LTE: No removable storage, No swappable battery (GS3 does actually get very good battery life but I'm a power-user by habit and always like to have a quick-swap spare available) and that EpicCM team wasn't a part of the community (I'm sure the EVO has wonderful dev's as well, a buddy of mine does dev for it with the at&t version, but after following the CM7->CM9 progress on the Epic, as well as all the rest of the Sprint/Samsung dev community, I'm happy to stick with it).
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The EVO LTE also has a MicroSD slot , but you're right, now removable battery. Although personally that was never really a negative since it was ample size (2000mah).

vulcZ said:
The EVO LTE also has a MicroSD slot , but you're right, now removable battery. Although personally that was never really a negative since it was ample size (2000mah).
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Oh, apparently I was wrong about that, is it the one x that doesn't? maybe I'm going crazy

The only thing that I can say that I didn't like about the evo was: the non removable battery, lack of multitasking. But I do miss the screen and that awesome camera button.
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I had the evo lte and loved it but the only thing tgat annoyed me was the weak antenna it woukd always drop dignal and also the evo lte has better cam than sg3 and also evo lte feels more sturdy the sg3 is a goid phone also pretty fast and good multy tasking i dont mind the non removable vattery on evo lte but both great phones also negative about sg3 ut feels very plasticky
Im on my SG3

SG3:
Good:
easy to root, install rom
removable battery
universal accessories (all versions including international can use same accessories)
very good loudspeaker
Bad:
battery drains quick compare to the Evo Lte
it does not feel like solid phone (like it can break easily)
slow charging (as with most Samsung)
Evo LTE:
Good:
Excellent battery life
Excellent fit and finish
Phone feels solid
kickstand
camera
music player with soundhound integration
fast charging (as with most HTC phones)
Bad:
non removable battery (my biggest complaint) I stream sports videos a lot so I go through batteries like crazy
dialer cannot send text, have to use messaging app separately
when you click on a phone number from a link or text you are forced to use the phone/dial pad instead of the messaging app (very annoying) I think it is Apple lawsuit related
no quick toggles from drop down menu
loudspeaker volume is too low

Man, I was heavily leaning towards the GS3 until today. I went to the Sprint store on my lunch break and played with both phones extensively, and in the end the GS3 suffered from the same performance issues the LTEVO did, so I'm guessing it's maybe related to ICS? To be more specific, I'm picky. I like having a phone that switches from task to task very quickly (I felt my Epic 4G Touch did that very well). So for example, if I'm on the app store downloading app after app, the phones will begin to slow a little during installs if I switching from screen to screen. I thought at first it was maybe the LTEVO, but I was able to replicate that behavior on the GS3 also, so it's safe to say that the 2gb of RAM isn't really needed, or is at least not helping any of the "real world" tests I tried.
Also, the camera on the LTEVO is quite a bit better. It was both faster, and offered better quality shots more consistently. HTC's camera software absolutely sucks, but I think the camera unit is better. I tested the macro settings and they were significantly better on the LTEVO. Basically, I could focus on things closer to the lens compared to the GS3.
So I think I'm going to pick the LTEVO again. I don't want anyone to think that I'm bashing the GS3. In all honesty either of those phones are an absolute great choice since they are extremely similar where it counts, and really only different in the personal preference areas (such as look, build, removable battery, etc). Performance is just about the same on both phones. I hope this thread was as helpful to someone else as it was to me

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SG3:
Good:
easy to root, install rom
removable battery
universal accessories (all versions including international can use same accessories)
very good loudspeaker
Bad:
battery drains quick compare to the Evo Lte
it does not feel like solid phone (like it can break easily)
slow charging (as with most Samsung)
Evo LTE:
Good:
Excellent battery life
Excellent fit and finish
Phone feels solid
kickstand
camera
music player with soundhound integration
fast charging (as with most HTC phones)
Bad:
non removable battery (my biggest complaint) I stream sports videos a lot so I go through batteries like crazy
dialer cannot send text, have to use messaging app separately
when you click on a phone number from a link or text you are forced to use the phone/dial pad instead of the messaging app (very annoying) I think it is Apple lawsuit related
no quick toggles from drop down menu
loudspeaker volume is too low
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For the EVO LTE bad list, you sound like you're nitpicking for a longer list. How many people send texts through the dialer? The HTCLinkify thing can be removed (so the click on a phone number thing is fixable), the EVO LTE has a button in the notification to get into settings (not as good as toggles, but not as bad as "nothing"). the loud speaker being too low is arbitrary.
You also left out some cons for the SGS3. There's a LOT of proprietary software that isn't very good (sounds like Sense doesn't it?), S-Voice is a gimmick.
There's just as many Sense haters as there are Touchwiz haters...it all comes down to preference. I'm going for the LTE because it's many of the same developers who's softwares I've been using since the OG EVO. Can't beat that pedigree. For most people, though, it's a question of would they rather be bloated down by Touchwiz and have a blue phone or be bloated down by HTC Sense and have a black phone with a kickstand. Otherwise, the specs are too identical to even consider voting one way or the other.

I was in love with the new evo, and when I saw my employee pricing through best buy for the gs3 I fell in love with it more ahaha. Some doof in corporate marked it 350 off contract so I traded in my 3d and it payed for it. But after playing with my friends evo, I realized that I liked my phone better. Touchwiz 5 is great IMO and I was ready to try something other than a HTC phone.
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What contributes to the opinion that the camera is better on the EVO? I feel quite the opposite. I hear the new Sense is like dropping anchor at full speed. I also bow to the mighty God Odin, fixer of bootloops restorer of stock roms. I like the Gorilla Glass, not sure if EVO has been upgraded to that. Samsung does take forever with updates (though we've had 2 already) but they don't release crap updates. Either HTC has some whiny fans or their updates aren't really top-notch. Samsung phones tend to feel more organic in shape in my hand. I find it to be the difference between driving and older honda versus an old volvo. Some people love boxy. I also feel like Samsung is headed in the right direction. After HTC lost the Nexus they seemed to lose their steam. At thsi point Apple is looking desperate against the momentum of Samsung. Makes me feel like I'm backing a strong horse.
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Yes Odin is awesome
I completely agree
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I owned both and I really wanted to like the evo lte over the s3. I really liked the screen of the evo lte, kickstand, build quality, the dedicated camera button, it was black, and the overall look of it was very cool. It's a shame that the way the multitasking worked on it was really retarded (not sure if this could be fixed by a software update or custom rom). Not only that but the lack of a replaceable battery is really a killer too.
I guess the s3 won me over because of the replaceable battery, the crazy development that will be going on for it, the fact that multitasking didn't have to reload every single time I changed back to a program, and how I could keep programs in my memory to make them smoother (2gb).

there are already a ton of gs3 vs evolte threads bro

Poetik said:
I owned both and I really wanted to like the evo lte over the s3. I really liked the screen of the evo lte, kickstand, build quality, the dedicated camera button, it was black, and the overall look of it was very cool. It's a shame that the way the multitasking worked on it was really retarded (not sure if this could be fixed by a software update or custom rom). Not only that but the lack of a replaceable battery is really a killer too.
I guess the s3 won me over because of the replaceable battery, the crazy development that will be going on for it, the fact that multitasking didn't have to reload every single time I changed back to a program, and how I could keep programs in my memory to make them smoother (2gb).
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Exactly my experience and thoughts. +1

Before even reading the rest of the replies I'll post my 2¢. Just picked up the Galaxy S3 on Monday evening.
I had the EVO 4G original at release and LOVED LOVED LOVED IT - then last June it, along with half my electronics at home, was the victim of a lightning hit down the alley on one of the transformers. Fortunately my computer gear survived. But I digress. From the EVO 4G I went to the EVO 3D, which, while the phone itself was OK, there wasn't as much of a development community out there for it as some other phones, my OG EVO especially. Cyanogen never came out for it in a year, and battery life ended up being worse and worse over time. If I'd kept the OG EVO I'd probably have been in a much different frame of mind regarding HTC's phones, but the 3D was just not their greatest hit.
Ultimately, I was torn between the 4G LTE and S3 - got both in my hands to play with and was still torn. Ultimately, I didn't want another HTC 'black slab' and I learned to dislike Sense more and more, since many of the higher functioning ROMs out there were Sense-based and I had to run ADW or another launcher on top of it.
So far I couldn't be happier with my choice. I got the blue, no case (maybe I will), and have not rooted (yet). I like the touchwiz interface, have pared down my homescreens to only 4 like I prefer, and battery life is outstanding! I am going to let it discharge all the way and see how long I can squeeze out of it. It's the idle/standby time that is so outstanding in my mind. Only a few percentage points gone overnight as opposed to 30-40% with the EVO 3D.
Oh, and the screen on this thing is amazing. So clear and sharp and beautiful...and as big as cellphone screens should ever get! Seriously.

Because of one thing - the name
Saying "Galaxy S3" is much easier than Saying "Sprint EVO 4G LTE". But don't listen to us. Walk, ride, skip or fly over to your nearest sprint store and see for yourself. The GS3 has 2GB of ram which is really awesome when multitasking. If you ask me all high end devices should have 2GB of ram. Other than that it's about the build. The EVO has a nicer screen, it feels like a solid brick that could hurt someone, and it has a kick stand. The GS3 feels soft like a babies bottom or a mammary and it looks super awesome also like a mammary. Amirite?

I actually feel differently on the aspect of development. I came from the OG EVO also, and dev support on that thing was amazing. From that I "upgraded" to the EVO 3D, but soon thereafter switched to the Epic 4G Touch as soon as it launched. Dev support just wasn't there for the EVO 3D. After I did some research, it made sense (no pun intended), but the EVO 3D was doomed from the start. What I mean by that is that it was never intended to be the true successor to the OG EVO, and thus not a lot of devs followed the device. Made perfect sense. The Epic 4G Touch had *better* dev support, but it still wasn't anywhere near what the OG EVO had.
I guess either way it's too early to tell which of the two (LTEVO and GS3) is going to have better dev support, but for some reason my gut is telling me that the LTEVO will.
I don't know if I agree with the 2gb of RAM on a phone just yet. iOS is a pretty crappy multi-tasking OS, yet the iPhone 4S only has 512mb of RAM and it's still a very good performing phone by today's standards. I also tested the SG3 (as mentioned in one of my previous posts), and it suffered from the same performance issues the LTEVO did when running it through my personal "real world" tests. So at least in my experience, the 2gb didn't seem to help the SG3.
Either way, both great phones. No clear winner over the other, when taking everything into consideration

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Please discuss other devices besides the S3 here.
Thanks
FNM

Good place to start, because you know the "what do you think about the s4" is coming.

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I will hopefully get the ball rolling. I personally will wait with upgrading. Reason being is when I upgraded to the s3 when it was at preorders and rumors of other more powerful phones came out. Then the note 2 appeared. I was upset. I will personally wait for the next stage of the new and hopefully octa core processors that the note 2 or the next google phone comes out with.
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+1 I absolutely agree with you Bruce Lee. There's really no need for the S IV. The S III does everything I need it to do and more. The last thing I need a phone to do is take over my life.
The only reason to upgrade from the S III to S IV would be bragging rights... How much are they really worth?
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+1 I absolutely agree with you Bruce Lee. There's really no need for the S IV. The S III does everything I need it to do and more. The last thing I need a phone to do is take over my life.
The only reason to upgrade from the S III to S IV would be bragging rights... How much are they really worth?
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S3 doesn't have a 1080p screen with a 400+ ppi. It is as substantial upgrade as any these days. That being said, I'm going to skip over it. It's pretty much one step above or a half step above the s3 in many ways but I am under contract until December so I can't justify paying outright 500$ mostly for the screen overhaul. If anything I'll wait to see the Motorola X phone since it is supposed to be as low as 200$ from what I've read and wait for the s5 or whatever the new hotness is next year.
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I found the Samsung IV release presentation extremely cheesy---I'm not sure what they were thinking.
I am disappointed at all the hype that preceded the release. What happened to the flexible, unbreakable screen? What happened to the very innovative Big-Little Exynos octocore that the US will not be receiving? And a pentile screen again!
I am pleased with the slightly bigger screen, the +400 ppi, and the bump in battery capacity. IMO, Samsung would have hit a home run if they would have built the Galaxy 4 with similar construction like the HTC One (instead of all the plastic). I hear the speakers on the One are amazing and I hope the Galaxy's are at least on par. My contract renews in January and so I will wait to see what the Motorola X and the new Galaxy Note will provide (if it doesn't go up to a 6 in. screen).

I'm completely happy with my s3, not planning on upgrading any time soon!

I don't understand the hype for 1080p displays... Playing any type of game is going to murder your battery, and you're waisting CPU cycles on pixels you can't see. I personally would've rather had a 720p samoled plus display. No more screen burn in, dark pixels, and battery effiecent.

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Brand New said:
I don't understand the hype for 1080p displays... Playing any type of game is going to murder your battery, and you're waisting CPU cycles on pixels you can't see. I personally would've rather had a 720p samoled plus display. No more screen burn in, dark pixels, and battery effiecent.
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Sammy has some new tech that's supposed to reduce battery used by the screen, forgot where I read that but I believe it said Nokia has used it as well before. I haven't used the s4 obviously, but the DROID dna has a 1080p screen and I at least can see a huge difference between that screen and my s3 or my girlys one X which is more comparable given that both the HTCs are lcd. Especially in plain text.
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No I will not upgrade,this is something that I learned the hard and expensive way. There is always gonna be something better.

My thoughts exactly on the stupid Galaxy IV event:
http://androidheadlines.com/2013/03...tude-on-display-not-a-new-flagship-phone.html

I will personally wait for the next stage of the new and hopefully octa core processors that the note 2 or the next google phone comes out with.

So I'm coming from a Samsung Infuse, and honestly, this phone cannot piss me off even more than I already am. I'm talking about constant resets (stuck power button), terrible GPS reception, UNBEARABLE LAG even with the latest paranoid android, and finally, messed up APN settings which bares the phone useless since I can't have any service on it! So now you understand of my struggles with my current phone. I'm in search for something that I can rely on and won't have even the slightest bit of lag after 2+ years of owning it.
Now, I've been doing some research on some phones (gs3, htc one x, htc one, gs4) And I come here to find out your honest opinion on the GS3 since the time you've owned it. Should I save some cash buying a GS3 or a One X, or are there some sort of problems with these phones that have ticked you off that I should consider paying the extra buck and looking at the 2013 flagships instead?

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So I'm coming from a Samsung Infuse, and honestly, this phone cannot piss me off even more than I already am. I'm talking about constant resets (stuck power button), terrible GPS reception, UNBEARABLE LAG even with the latest paranoid android, and finally, messed up APN settings which bares the phone useless since I can't have any service on it! So now you understand of my struggles with my current phone. I'm in search for something that I can rely on and won't have even the slightest bit of lag after 2+ years of owning it.
Now, I've been doing some research on some phones (gs3, htc one x, htc one, gs4) And I come here to find out your honest opinion on the GS3 since the time you've owned it. Should I save some cash buying a GS3 or a One X, or are there some sort of problems with these phones that have ticked you off that I should consider paying the extra buck and looking at the 2013 flagships instead?
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I have had the blackberry storm WOW I literally through that against the wall it was stupid, I got an xperia arc, liked it got bored with it... then I got the Sony XPERIA ION enjoyed the 12MP camera but again it got boring. I can honestly say since I have gotten the S3 I have not thought about owning another phone, the ease of customization all the support for it and it works. I rely on it and there seems to be always something new to try out on it and I am still not bored with it. I am on the i747m.

lemonz23 said:
So I'm coming from a Samsung Infuse, and honestly, this phone cannot piss me off even more than I already am. I'm talking about constant resets (stuck power button), terrible GPS reception, UNBEARABLE LAG even with the latest paranoid android, and finally, messed up APN settings which bares the phone useless since I can't have any service on it! So now you understand of my struggles with my current phone. I'm in search for something that I can rely on and won't have even the slightest bit of lag after 2+ years of owning it.
Now, I've been doing some research on some phones (gs3, htc one x, htc one, gs4) And I come here to find out your honest opinion on the GS3 since the time you've owned it. Should I save some cash buying a GS3 or a One X, or are there some sort of problems with these phones that have ticked you off that I should consider paying the extra buck and looking at the 2013 flagships instead?
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I went from the Infuse to the GS3 and haven't looked back. I had a small crack in the corner of my Infuse and also the camera would not focus so I called up to see what my options were to get it replaced through the insurance plan. They told me my replacement was going to be a GS3 but that a $200 deductable would be charged to my next bill. It was a no brainer, especially since I am not eligable for an upgrade for another year. The GS3 is head and shoulders above the Infuse. It's a flagship phone with tons of support. I got it and rooted it that night. There are tons of great roms on XDA and have tried most of them. This phone is amazing. Can't really see why I'd get the S4. Perhaps when the Note 3 comes out, I would consider upgrading. An even larger screen would be very welcome.

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An upgrade is really dependant on what you use a device for. The s3 does pretty much what I need it to do for work and for personnel uses.
It's plenty fast still. I ran my iPhone 4 to end of contract and still think it could what I need from a phone.
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nexus
I think ill wait for another nexus 4 to come out

wutbdat said:
I think ill wait for another nexus 4 to come out
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why would they release another of the same version?
It would be nexus 5 or some other name, they wouldn't reuse the same name

Just moved from my trusty Nexus S to the Canadian Galaxy S3. Love it. Finally I have free ram even when doing intensive tasks. Honestly, this is what Android should feel like.
Still learning the thing, installed TWRP, flashed latest cm10.1 nightly and put back my titanium backup. This thing feels like home, but twice as fast.
It's a bit of a shame there's so many S3 variants, really spreads out the development for it, whereas on the Nexus S there were very few versions (like 4, which all shared similar internals minus modems), making things very simple.
I'll see you guys around!

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Wow, Samsung 4 is $250 at AT&T and I can only assume that Verizon and possibly Sprint will follow suit:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/AT-T-Galaxy-S4-price-will-be-249-pre-orders-start-on-April-16_id41309
This is a mistake and will cost them some sales numbers. I'm sure HTC, Motorola/Google, and LG are licking their chops.
Tmobile no contract $99 Galaxy S IV is really tempting. Too bad their service sucks in this area. I'll be at 18 months come January and ready to upgrade and am currently tempted by the LG Optimus G Pro and am awaiting the details on the Google X. It sounds like the Note 3 screen will be too big for my liking.