[Q] I've some questions before Rooting my first Android phone - HTC One X

Hi all, ..
I've decided to root my One X but before that I want to know some things and ask some questions:-
1- What are all the side effects for unlocking the bootloader & rooting the device ??
2- After we root the device could we return the phone as it came exactly from the factroy ?? means locked again .. no root .. all side effects will disappear ??
3- What are the difference between Hboot & Bootloader ??
4- Are Kernal & Boot Image are exactly the same ??
5- What is Fastboot exactly ??
Sorry for my questions but it the first time I'll root my phone so I want to take care
And thanks in advance

Please .. Any help !!

omar_bazaraa said:
Hi all, ..
I've decided to root my One X but before that I want to know some things and ask some questions:-
1- What are all the side effects for unlocking the bootloader & rooting the device ??
2- After we root the device could we return the phone as it came exactly from the factroy ?? means locked again .. no root .. all side effects will disappear ??
3- What are the difference between Hboot & Bootloader ??
4- Are Kernal & Boot Image are exactly the same ??
5- What is Fastboot exactly ??
Sorry for my questions but it the first time I'll root my phone so I want to take care
And thanks in advance
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1 - There are no side effects that come from rooting the phone, the side effects can arise when you flash a dirty rom, but thats the joys of rooting I guess. Trying different roms/kernels until you find the combination you love.
2- After rooting, you cannot go completely back. Instead of your bootloader saying Locked, it will say RE-Locked, so they will know something is up. But apparantly if the issue is hardware caused, such as the WiFi issue, then I think they still repair under warranty.
3 - To be honest I can't answer that one, im sorry !
4 - No they are not the same, a Kernel is what communicates with the hardware, and passes that information back to the software and vice versa. Without the kernel, the hardware/software would have no way of communicating.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5253/5534201226_7e7d2d90eb_b.jpg
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=ROM-VS-Kernel
5 - Fastboot is how you modify your bootloader, which is how you flash the boot.img in order to not make the phone bootloop when installing a custom rom.
Hope thats helpful !

Hi the only bad side effects are if you do something wrong
You can return back to stock usein ruu's but not back to locked
Ye a boot.IMG is a kernel and I no of some noob friendly tools to help you unlock and fastboot kernels without having to do it manual wich helps
If you won't help through all the steps I'm welcome to help
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So, actually, the boot.img is a binary file, that contains the kernel and the ramdisk.

mmmmmmm I'm now confused !!
According to:-
1- I know the rooting will make the warranty gone and also I won't be able to update OTA !! so how to avoid these problems
2- There are difference between Locked & Relocked ?? And if I relocked my phone the warranty will come back & I'll be able to update OTA ??
3- No one had answered me !!
4- I have three different answeres !!
5- I still don't know the meaning of Fastboot
And thanks to every one who had answered .. +1 thanks to every one
And I hope thant you answer me ...

omar_bazaraa said:
mmmmmmm I'm now confused !!
According to:-
1- I know the rooting will make the warranty gone and also I won't be able to update OTA !! so how to avoid these problems
2- There are difference between Locked & Relocked ?? And if I relocked my phone the warranty will come back & I'll be able to update OTA ??
3- No one had answered me !!
4- I have three different answeres !!
5- I still don't know the meaning of Fastboot
And thanks to every one who had answered .. +1 thanks to every one
And I hope thant you answer me ...
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1/2) You can unlock to install OTA. Even if you lose warranty, you are usually protected by consumer law in your country.
3) Spelling
4) I'm right, if you keep asking, you'll have 4 answers
5) Fastboot is a setting that allows you to more quickly boot your phone. It also breaks some apps.
5) Fastboot is a tool for flashing bootloader and recovery on your phone, as well as other diagnostic tasks.

BenPope said:
1/2) You can unlock to install OTA. Even if you lose warranty, you are usually protected by consumer law in your country.
3) Spelling
4) I'm right, if you keep asking, you'll have 4 answers
5) Fastboot is a setting that allows you to more quickly boot your phone. It also breaks some apps.
5) Fastboot is a tool for flashing bootloader and recovery on your phone, as well as other diagnostic tasks.
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1- Means that the warranty won't come back ??
2- What are the difference between Locked & Relocked ?? or it's just spelling difference ??
3- Okay
4- hahahaha .. Okay
5- I know fastboot the setting but fastboot the tool I want to know it more & more .. why we need to flash bootloader & recovery even that we have it .. and how we flash the bootloader even that the fastboot mode we get it from the bootloader (Hboot) !!
+1 for your help

there is no difference between locked and relocked. Relocked means you had unlocked the bootloader and Now htc knows about it.
You can not flash custom roms from stock recovery, Since there is no option to flash the zip files. For that you need to install CWM

faiz02 said:
there is no difference between locked and relocked. Relocked means you had unlocked the bootloader and Now htc knows about it.
You can not flash custom roms from stock recovery, Since there is no option to flash the zip files. For that you need to install CWM
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Is there any problems when HTC knows that this phone has relocked the bootloader again ?? could I unlock & relock my phone may times without problems ??
What about the warranty ?? I'll lose it even after relocking my phone ??

omar_bazaraa said:
Is there any problems when HTC knows that this phone has relocked the bootloader again ?? could I unlock & relock my phone may times without problems ??
What about the warranty ?? I'll lose it even after relocking my phone ??
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Yes there is a problem.. by unlocking the bootloader you may void your warranty. By this means Htc have the authority to reject your warranty claims. But at some places they accept the relocked bootloader under the warranty. It all depends on place, service center.. and the answer of your 2nd ques would be yes.. you could do it as many times you want. And you could also get the official OTA updates. So decision is yours.. check your phone for any defect. Then think about unlocking the bootloader.
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faiz02 said:
Yes there is a problem.. by unlocking the bootloader you may void your warranty. By this means Htc have the authority to reject your warranty claims. But at some places they accept the relocked bootloader under the warranty. It all depends on place, service center.. and the answer of your 2nd ques would be yes.. you could do it as many times you want. And you could also get the official OTA updates. So decision is yours.. check your phone for any defect. Then think about unlocking the bootloader.
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Thanks .. now I have understand .. +1 thanks to you and thanks to every one who had helped me
I have a small question .. how could I know that my phone comes with warranty ?? as I bought the phone from eBay without warranty but in the box there is a Warranty Statement !!

warranty statement does not matter.. If you have the bill you may contact HTC if your phone comes under warranty or not?
but since you bought it without warranty.. So I doubt there would be any chance that it may come under any sort of warranty.

faiz02 said:
warranty statement does not matter.. If you have the bill you may contact HTC if your phone comes under warranty or not?
but since you bought it without warranty.. So I doubt there would be any chance that it may come under any sort of warranty.
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Okay Okay >> THANKS

Hboot is your bootloader. Like you get different types of bios menu for different pcs
Hboot is your bootloader not anything else. there are different hboots out there but they are all bootloaders (you could call it bios).
This means they tell your phone what to do when you press the power on button when it's off or you hold the volume down key and power on
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omar_bazaraa said:
Thanks .. now I have understand .. +1 thanks to you and thanks to every one who had helped me
I have a small question .. how could I know that my phone comes with warranty ?? as I bought the phone from eBay without warranty but in the box there is a Warranty Statement !!
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The phone was released end of march or april I believe. In that case you have warranty till March april 2014 by default as all phones come with 2 year warranty and your phone cannot possible be older than march as it was not available before then. So every single one x without a receipt had warranty till 2 years from release date
Even HTC know that so don't worry.
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faiz02 said:
warranty statement does not matter.. If you have the bill you may contact HTC if your phone comes under warranty or not?
but since you bought it without warranty.. So I doubt there would be any chance that it may come under any sort of warranty.
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I don't believe that to be true, for the first two years of a phone released, you can do without the bill receipt. If you were say to buy a HTC Desire HD a year ago brand new, as its 3 years old the build now; the receipt would be needed to prove you bought it within the last 2 years and not on release. But for a phone that has just been released you do not need to prove this, even HTC know you couldnt have had it more than 6 months

Are there any disadvantages of unlocking the bootloader to root?
As custom ROMs/bootloaders will not be able to receive OTA updates from HTC, is there anything that an update from HTC can do which custom ROMs cannot. (e.g. low level power management and performance enhancement stuff)?

eD1s0n said:
Are there any disadvantages of unlocking the bootloader to root?
As custom ROMs/bootloaders will not be able to receive OTA updates from HTC, is there anything that an update from HTC can do which custom ROMs cannot. (e.g. low level power management and performance enhancement stuff)?
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Yes you can flash roms arhd and viperx usually run the latest software from HTC anyway so you will be getting your ota erlyer than everyone else
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OMG!!!!
HBoot = the partition table on your phone. It's essentialy the way that the internal space is partitioned.
If you have let's say 5Gb of internal memory then yoy can partition it let's say like this:
1. System - 1Gb - where your ROM is installed
2. Cache - 2Gb - the cache for the sys apps and apps installed on internal
3. Data - The rest - where the apps are installed.
But to be perfectly honnest I really don't know why there would be any talk about HBoot as long we don't even have S-Off even, whem that is manditory.
As for the bootloader... That is the procces of booting the operating system in android, or any other OS. This tells the phone what to boot and what to start and in what order....
Hope it helps some of you.
Talking about HBoot I really don't think we'll be needing a different one any time soon as the sys partition is more then enought for the existing ROMs out there... for now at least. This was used mostly when you would've had a internal memory like 512 Mb and you'd use a sd-card's EXT2/EXT3 partition as internal memory for cache or data...
Hope it's more helpfull than confussing.
Rgds.
Pushu.X
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Thanks to all these usefull informations
+1 to every one

Related

To Root or not to root

Ok so I did do some search and would like to clear up 3 questions please.
1. If I root then the device is still stock (unless I change other things ) but stock is fine. I only want to root it to use this guide:
http://www.guidingtech.com/10821/disable-3-three-dot-menu-htc-one-x-map-to-task-switcher-button/
and get those annoying 3 dots away from my screen
2. If I root will my warranty still be in tact?
3. If I root will I still get updates that I can install from HTC themselfs?
Off my own topic but regarding the upgrade. My phone was imported from Singapore to South Africa because our service products SUCK!!! The update will still come from the South African service provider correct? Don't even know if they will bring one out anyway so...
ps: I have an HTC One X
Thanks guys
Rooting will in theory void the warranty. But you can always unroot to get warranty back. BUT because that you are unlocking your bootloader, you are also voiding your warranty, completely.
There is no way (as of now) to get back to a state, where you have warranty, from an unlocked bootloader.
Only way to root and "keep" warranty, is it either get S-OFF, or find an exploit so the devs can make an easy program like GingerBreak, to root your phone.
Yes, as long as you are on a stock rom, you will get updates, but I don't know if you will loose root that way. I don't think so, but I am not sure.
you only void the warranty if you unlock from htcdev if for example the software you flash on your phone cause an issue with the motherboard for example like overclocking and such. if you have a hardware issue like a broken screen then you are still under warranty. someone correct me if i am wrong..that is kinda the feeling i am getting by reading through the forum
soooo glad I posted it Just registered an account on HTCDev Not gonna do it that way
Ok, can anyone please let me know how to get rid of those 3 dots then I hate being in a app and it reduces the screen for the dots.
You can't without unlocking and rooting your phone
Use this to root, without unlocking your bootloader.
EDIT: Link removed for now.. Not sure if it is working on the Tegra 3 version.
EDIT 2: You guys just have to wait a few hours! Root is on its way!
From the conversation i had with the online tech support at HTC they said that my warranty would be void if i used the unlocking tool at HTCdev.
I even specifically asked if hardware faults would still be covered and he still said no.
emperact said:
Use this to root, without unlocking your bootloader.
EDIT: Link removed for now.. Not sure if it is working on the Tegra 3 version.
EDIT 2: You guys just have to wait a few hours! Root is on its way!
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Ok cool... Please can you update with a link when it's working
Thanks a lot guys
http://www.modaco.com/topic/353986-...t-unlocking-the-bootloader-windows-mac-linux/
Working now enjoy
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hapticc said:
http://www.modaco.com/topic/353986-...t-unlocking-the-bootloader-windows-mac-linux/
Working now enjoy
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Looks like there's a problem when you use it from a Windows system??
hapticc said:
http://www.modaco.com/topic/353986-...t-unlocking-the-bootloader-windows-mac-linux/
Working now enjoy
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If by "Working now" you mean, "hasn't worked for a single person that's replied", then yeah.
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Help please...screen stuck at logo

Hello
My phone's screen is stuck at opening htc logo. I never rooted it - shall I just flash it with standard stock rom? Would you please be so kind to point me in the right direction? Bless...
My kindest regards
Pete
Try booting without the sd card.
How old is the phone? What happened / did you do (if such is the case) for it to get like that? Etc.....
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Teichopsia said:
Try booting without the sd card.
How old is the phone? What happened / did you do (if such is the case) for it to get like that? Etc.....
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Tried that before without result...also did a factory reset but to no avail. Phone was just over a year old when it happened, got it from my insurance policy so it's possibly a refurbished one. I can't remember doing anything to cause this...
phosphen said:
Tried that before without result...also did a factory reset but to no avail. Phone was just over a year old when it happened, got it from my insurance policy so it's possibly a refurbished one. I can't remember doing anything to cause this...
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You Need to provide the Cid number and the Main Version. Do You know how to Get that?
glevitan said:
You Need to provide the Cid number and the Main Version. Do You know how to Get that?
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Sorry, no idea...
phosphen said:
Sorry, no idea...
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Ok, enable USB debugging, plug the phone to the PC and then open a CMD ON the PC and type adb reboot-bootloader and once in bootloader type fastboot getvar all. You Need to post the INFOcidnum and INFOmain
How old is your phone? Isn't there still any warranty? If so you may try to contact your reseller, service provider or the manufacturer. If not glevitan may be your hero
glevitan said:
Ok, enable USB debugging, plug the phone to the PC and then open a CMD ON the PC and type adb reboot-bootloader and once in bootloader type fastboot getvar all. You Need to post the INFOcidnum and INFOmain
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Sorry mate, I was offline for a whole day, just managed to get back on it
How can I enable USB debugging if I can get onto HBOOT menu only? Is it possible to switch it on from there? Saludos
phosphen said:
Sorry mate, I was offline for a whole day, just managed to get back on it
How can I enable USB debugging if I can get onto HBOOT menu only? Is it possible to switch it on from there? Saludos
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Yes, from fastboot, plug the phone (You will see fastboot USB in red) type: fastboot getvar all
sounds like a boot loop?
try removing the battery, once you have done that re boot into boot loader from there you should see an option for recovery.you may want to do a full wipe and re flash the rom.:silly: keep in mind the initial flash normally will take the longest,best to leave it be for a few minutes while the phone adjust to the new settings,that sometimes will seem like you may have an issue, but patience most times is all that is needed.hope this helps.
rdub504 said:
try removing the battery, once you have done that re boot into boot loader from there you should see an option for recovery.you may want to do a full wipe and re flash the rom.:silly: keep in mind the initial flash normally will take the longest,best to leave it be for a few minutes while the phone adjust to the new settings,that sometimes will seem like you may have an issue, but patience most times is all that is needed.hope this helps.
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It's not rooted, so I don't think that will work.
bananagranola said:
It's not rooted, so I don't think that will work.
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excellent point,but if that's true what is he flashing?
rooted phone=flash capable non rooted =stock rom with no admin access. am i mistaken,if so slap me and call me susan,if not box that thing up and bring it back,and if that's not an option then warranty time.because that device is chap.
rdub504 said:
excellent point,but if that's true what is he flashing?
rooted phone=flash capable non rooted =stock rom with no admin access. am i mistaken,if so slap me and call me susan,if not box that thing up and bring it back,and if that's not an option then warranty time.because that device is chap.
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Hello susan
Sent from a dream.
Teichopsia said:
Hello susan
Sent from a dream.
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LOL,I guess i'm susan and my face now hurt.can you please elaborate a bit so i can also understand what i am missing.
rdub504 said:
LOL,I guess i'm susan and my face now hurt.can you please elaborate a bit so i can also understand what i am missing.
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Well....
1- over a year old bought refurbished.
2- he never rooted. We could assume that it is s-off from the previous owner but all of us failed to ask that question making another assumption that he isn't s-off.
3- he did a factory reset which didn't work (whatever that means with an s-on device / with an s-off device it really messes things up).
4- glevitan is here. If he doesn't know how to fix it (and from the few active members that tend to lend a hand in these type of posts) there may be just a handful who could help out. Hence, the OP is in good hands.
5- when someone messes up their phone without knowing what happened nor how to fix it, you need to give more detailed instructions on how to get it done.
6- I'm guessing that the info glevitan asked for is to find the correct ruu for the member to flash and to get his phone back to working conditions. If that doesn't work, chances are it's a hardware problem.
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Teichopsia said:
Well....
1- over a year old bought refurbished.
2- he never rooted. We could assume that it is s-off from the previous owner but all of us failed to ask that question making another assumption that he isn't s-off.
3- he did a factory reset which didn't work (whatever that means with an s-on device / with an s-off device it really messes things up).
4- glevitan is here. If he doesn't know how to fix it (and from the few active members that tend to lend a hand in these type of posts) there may be just a handful who could help out. Hence, the OP is in good hands.
5- when someone messes up their phone without knowing what happened nor how to fix it, you need to give more detailed instructions on how to get it done.
6- I'm guessing that the info glevitan asked for is to find the correct ruu for the member to flash and to get his phone back to working conditions. If that doesn't work, chances are it's a hardware problem.
Bullet point,impressive. now a refurb with s off would mean a root from a previous owner?
"S-ON, which means it blocks you from flashing radio images — the code that manages your data, Wi-Fi and GPS connections. Switching your phone to S-OFF lets you flash new radios. Rooting doesn’t require S-OFF, but many rooting tools will give you S-OFF in addition to root access" So hince my question if attempting to flash a rom ,it would be a safe bet he would be rooted,because without it he would have no admin access,recovery or superser access and would not be able to complete the flash process.a factory reset would normally on a stock rom not result in a loss of the entire stock rom but only a loss off data i.e contacts apps etc. and with these things in mind it would seem to be a safe to assume its a hardware issue or a rooted refurb phone from a previous owner in a bootloop becauce a factory reset there would wipe everything?
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Factory reset resets the phone to it's "as fabricated"-condition, wich means it wipes user data and cache on the phone. With or without root the procedure is the same and should usally not affect /system or /boot.
So we have to find out, if the phone is S-On/S-Off (phosphen, more information on the topic can be read for example here, second post).
Teichopsia said:
Well....
1- over a year old bought refurbished.
2- he never rooted. We could assume that it is s-off from the previous owner but all of us failed to ask that question making another assumption that he isn't s-off.
3- he did a factory reset which didn't work (whatever that means with an s-on device / with an s-off device it really messes things up).
4- glevitan is here. If he doesn't know how to fix it (and from the few active members that tend to lend a hand in these type of posts) there may be just a handful who could help out. Hence, the OP is in good hands.
5- when someone messes up their phone without knowing what happened nor how to fix it, you need to give more detailed instructions on how to get it done.
6- I'm guessing that the info glevitan asked for is to find the correct ruu for the member to flash and to get his phone back to working conditions. If that doesn't work, chances are it's a hardware problem.
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rdub504 said:
Teichopsia said:
Well....
1- over a year old bought refurbished.
2- he never rooted. We could assume that it is s-off from the previous owner but all of us failed to ask that question making another assumption that he isn't s-off.
3- he did a factory reset which didn't work (whatever that means with an s-on device / with an s-off device it really messes things up).
4- glevitan is here. If he doesn't know how to fix it (and from the few active members that tend to lend a hand in these type of posts) there may be just a handful who could help out. Hence, the OP is in good hands.
5- when someone messes up their phone without knowing what happened nor how to fix it, you need to give more detailed instructions on how to get it done.
6- I'm guessing that the info glevitan asked for is to find the correct ruu for the member to flash and to get his phone back to working conditions. If that doesn't work, chances are it's a hardware problem.
Bullet point,impressive. now a refurb with s off would mean a root from a previous owner?
"S-ON, which means it blocks you from flashing radio images — the code that manages your data, Wi-Fi and GPS connections. Switching your phone to S-OFF lets you flash new radios. Rooting doesn’t require S-OFF, but many rooting tools will give you S-OFF in addition to root access" So hince my question if attempting to flash a rom ,it would be a safe bet he would be rooted,because without it he would have no admin access,recovery or superser access and would not be able to complete the flash process.a factory reset would normally on a stock rom not result in a loss of the entire stock rom but only a loss off data i.e contacts apps etc. and with these things in mind it would seem to be a safe to assume its a hardware issue or a rooted refurb phone from a previous owner in a bootloop becauce a factory reset there would wipe everything?
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Cfhappy said:
Factory reset resets the phone to it's "as fabricated"-condition, wich means it wipes user data and cache on the phone. With or without root the procedure is the same and should usally not affect /system or /boot.
So we have to find out, if the phone is S-On/S-Off (phosphen, more information on the topic can be read for example here, second post).
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Sorry guys, but before hijacking this thread maybe you can go and follow the discussion in the off topic thread. The idea here is to lend a hand to someone that is stuck and a noob and this for certain not helping him. Let's keep it clean....
BTW, the only solution in his case is to flash the OEM RUU or make a goldcard and flash an unbranded rom. With no s-off there´s no other way.
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I couldn't resist.
Maybe it's good practice for him to read through all to learn to discern right info from wrong.
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Teichopsia said:
I couldn't resist.
Maybe it's good practice for him to read through all to learn to discern right info from wrong.
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Yeah, that is right, but with the phone stuck in the splash I don´t think is a good time to think about learning. This experience will definitely be worth for him in the future. :victory:

Getting warrany back

I bought my HTC one X a few months ago, and i rooted it as soon as i got the device. I did not test any part of the phone, and now, it turns out that my camera is faulty. Is there some way to get my warranty back?
Thank you very much.
cytan9 said:
I bought my HTC one X a few months ago, and i rooted it as soon as i got the device. I did not test any part of the phone, and now, it turns out that my camera is faulty. Is there some way to get my warranty back?
Thank you very much.
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I think if you have just root and have supersu app you can unroot from superuser app options, and when you rooted you flashed TWRP or CWM recovery so you need also to reverse to stock recovery, but to find stock recovery need more info, your CID and sw main-version to find matching stock recovery.img! And you also can relock bootloader after doing all that that i was mentioned!
But warranty depends from country to country so..maybe you dont need revert to stock at all, some members didnt and repair service didnt ask anything!
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I think if you have just root and have supersu app you can unroot from superuser app options, and when you rooted you flashed TWRP or CWM recovery so you need also to reverse to stock recovery, but to find stock recovery need more info, your CID and sw main-version to find matching stock recovery.img! And you also can relock bootloader after doing all that that i was mentioned!
But warranty depends from country to country so..maybe you dont need revert to stock at all, some members didnt and repair service didnt ask anything!
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Hey thanks for replying
I have done all those, but on my bootloader, it says "RELOCKED". Will that have an affect? is there a way to get rid of that?
Nope....they will always see that your bootloader was unlocked before. So basically getting warranty is a guess. If its a real hardware problem you will get warranty, but if they can prove it was software then you probably won't
Everything like Mr Hofs said..."RELOCKED" status is fixed for now...and when you unlocked bootloader unfortunately you agree for new warranty condition..
I really hope that htc will fix my phone because my radio is stuffing up too
If thats the case, ill just have to bring the phone in and see what happens
thanks for your help people

[Q] Why is my DEVICE ALREADY UNLOCKED????

Hello There fellow pro XDA Users i am in pretty desperate need of knowing if my Device is original or not, so please!!! help me :crying:
i have bought a new HTC One X 2 days ago from an authorized Dealer here in Bangladesh(they said themselves as authorized even though i have not found any info of them on htc web )
Anyways i bought the device checked all the things needed from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1923016
and they all seemed okay so i was fine and bought it
But after trying to root my device and opening bootloader i WAS SHOCKED that my DEVICE IS ALREADY Unlocked!!!WHY???
Also The Device seems to be from Switzerland ORANGE as my CID is ORANG216
also i am getting pretty big lag spikes when playing dead trigger and gangstar rio is it because my device is FAKE?????
also because of staying out of htc service i cannot recive OTA updates so i tried to manual OTA from here that matches my CID http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1606676
and thats when i found my problem
i have attachted my bootloader image and clockworkmod image please see them
also my software info
PLEASE HELP me so i can atleast try to get a refund
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From what i have been told earlier some dealers root the phone because of missing local languages in the software. Don't know exactly who or what, but that's my experience with an older case i read about a while ago. That guy told me that it was pretty normal......i just find it strange !
The only thing you must check is what kind of warranty you are entitled to. Because HTC will now no longer support software problems on the phone. Only real hardware problems will fall under warranty. But that's also sometimes a what grey area.
We can get you back to full stock and updated to Jellybean if you wish ?
Edit : its imported from Switzerland ? Then they did this to add languages indeed.
Are you on orange provider too ???
Even my device is imported (Sealed) from Australia.. I'm from India.. So I don't have HTC warranty...
However, I have ebay seller warranty and he has said he will replace the device with no questions asked in case of hardware failure...
So, in your case as well... I think it's pretty much the same thing?? You don't have HTC warranty... but dealer warranty... You should have clarified this with your dealer...
Mr Hofs said:
From what i have been told earlier some dealers root the phone because of missing local languages in the software. Don't know exactly who or what, but that's my experience with an older case i read about a while ago. That guy told me that it was pretty normal......i just find it strange !
The only thing you must check is what kind of warranty you are entitled to. Because HTC will now no longer support software problems on the phone. Only real hardware problems will fall under warranty. But that's also sometimes a what grey area.
We can get you back to full stock and updated to Jellybean if you wish ?
Edit : its imported from Switzerland ? Then they did this to add languages indeed.
Are you on orange provider too ???
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firstly no i am in no way in orange i am in GP(local SP here)and i also dont know if it WAS ported from swiss
so umm does that mean that the device is not fake i mean its just weird that an intact device(they cut the HTC poly and seal in front of myself) has unlocked bootloader
also about the warrenty yes i clarified it with the dealer they said that there is no replacement warrenty but if any problem does come up in a year (hardware or software) they will fix it so does that mean i don't need to get refund...what do you guys think?
also there are other strange things in my phone for example the phone CID is orang216 so it should display switzerland in its region but instead its displaying arabic and saying that the device is htc_ara (via app device info)
also the dealer used a special steel tool to cut my mini sim into micro with one press lol(machine looked kinda odd )
also if your talking about localization then there is arabic fonts installed here but not our country language though
also did you notice my boot radio is none ????there was supposed to be something written on it huh?
SO my final guess is that the dealer himself imported it from arab htc and its selling here though why does it have an swiss CID instead of arab?
so i am the only one with out of the box unlocked bootloader version here???? AND also it means that HTC NOW won't care about my device huh??? :crying:
AND LASTLY since my bootloader is already unlocked do you think its best to directly switch to a custom JB rom then the OTA JB??? and if i do wanna switch to custom rom can give me tutorial from beginner level and all the precautions i have to take? (is it even possible for me to go to a custom JB from my stock ics and old 0.95 bootloader??)
MAN I NEVER SHOULDA BOUGHT HTC IN THE FIRST PLACE :crying: :crying:
A lot of people do buy unlocked HOXs, what you could do is relock it if its really bothering you. Run the correct RUU, from fast boot, and it will relock your phone and give the original software etc
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Using CM10.1
yes after a while now and a lot of research i gound out it is common also the no radio was a problem with my hboot 0.95(its normal)
thanks for all the help this question is closed
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Wouldn't be complaining, saved you time. Also some have soft bricked thier phones in attempting to unlock.
One thing I'd be worried about, is your H-Boot. Thats low....
Wilks3y said:
One thing I'd be worried about, is your H-Boot. Thats low....
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maxilick said:
Wouldn't be complaining, saved you time. Also some have soft bricked thier phones in attempting to unlock.
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He has successfully updated his Hboot and has ARHD running now! He had created multiple threads.... so this can be locked!
Ahhh great.
Glad he's all sorted another one ticked off the list.
RUU is easiest HBOOT update method for anyone who happens to come across this thread with same issue.
aseferfan said:
firstly no i am in no way in orange i am in GP(local SP here)and i also dont know if it WAS ported from swiss
so umm does that mean that the device is not fake i mean its just weird that an intact device(they cut the HTC poly and seal in front of myself) has unlocked bootloader
also about the warrenty yes i clarified it with the dealer they said that there is no replacement warrenty but if any problem does come up in a year (hardware or software) they will fix it so does that mean i don't need to get refund...what do you guys think?
also there are other strange things in my phone for example the phone CID is orang216 so it should display switzerland in its region but instead its displaying arabic and saying that the device is htc_ara (via app device info)
also the dealer used a special steel tool to cut my mini sim into micro with one press lol(machine looked kinda odd )
also if your talking about localization then there is arabic fonts installed here but not our country language though
also did you notice my boot radio is none ????there was supposed to be something written on it huh?
SO my final guess is that the dealer himself imported it from arab htc and its selling here though why does it have an swiss CID instead of arab?
so i am the only one with out of the box unlocked bootloader version here???? AND also it means that HTC NOW won't care about my device huh??? :crying:
AND LASTLY since my bootloader is already unlocked do you think its best to directly switch to a custom JB rom then the OTA JB??? and if i do wanna switch to custom rom can give me tutorial from beginner level and all the precautions i have to take? (is it even possible for me to go to a custom JB from my stock ics and old 0.95 bootloader??)
MAN I NEVER SHOULDA BOUGHT HTC IN THE FIRST PLACE :crying: :crying:
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Whoa man chill, One X is probably my Best Buy yet.. :good:
You could always relock your bootloader, install the stock ROM and get OTA updates...
And upgrade the HBOOT Please -.- even mine's already 1.36 :silly:
But still that's a surprise you get new One X with unlocked bootloader
You still can get dealer's warranty though...
vin4yak;He had created multiple threads.... ;)[/QUOTE said:
Impatient and no regard to forum rules.
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maxilick said:
Impatient and no regard to forum rules.
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True that!
However, for a person who is new to the world of rooting/upgrading and stuff and finds out his phone has been tampered with, it can be really frustrating!
Nwys, forum rules come before that! So.....

HTC One X G-sensors not working all of a sudden!

Hey guys... My friend bought an HTC One X second hand. It is rooted with what seems to be stock 4.0.3 Sense 4.0. The phone is also S-OFF and everything.. I will post pictures of it.
So here's the deal:
My friend was watching a movie but suddenly he felt as if the screen wasn't rotating... Now (According to AndroSensor App) the magnetic field, orientation, gyroscope, accelerometer etc... In short.. All of the GRAVITY SENSORS and the orientation sensors aren't working.. They are DETECTED by the app but say "Waiting for event"
tried hard resetting and everything. I have put many Custom ROMs in phones before. So i can flash ROMs etc if i have to
I have attached the pictures about everything and need help.. Alot appreciated thanks.
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I noticed i forgot to upload all the attachments.. I also have noticed that people have this problem on Sense 5. This one is sense 4 o.o
Can anyone help me in this. Also the phone has its bootloader LOCKED. I have to unlock it now?
Sent from my Nexus
WasifSal said:
View attachment 2362068I noticed i forgot to upload all the attachments.. I also have noticed that people have this problem on Sense 5. This one is sense 4 o.o
Can anyone help me in this. Also the phone has its bootloader LOCKED. I have to unlock it now?
Sent from my Nexus
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take it to the shop, it is under warranty till may 2014
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take it to the shop, it is under warranty till may 2014
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Since i bought it second hand he told me "i gave you the phone when it was working. Even you checked it here in the shop. Not my fault.".... Thats the last time i ever buy a 2nd hand phone -.-
And he ain't wrong himself either... Anyways a helpful suggestion will be alot appreciated...
My question is that "CAN I FLASH A SENSE 5 (4.2.2) ROM ON THIS BAD BOY BY JUST FLASHING VIA RECOVERY?"
I'll then check the other powering off and stuff i read till i get my hands on my frnd's HOX. Cuz im a bit busy waiting for the Nexus 5 launch o.o
WasifSal said:
Since i bought it second hand he told me "i gave you the phone when it was working. Even you checked it here in the shop. Not my fault.".... Thats the last time i ever buy a 2nd hand phone -.-
And he ain't wrong himself either... Anyways a helpful suggestion will be alot appreciated...
My question is that "CAN I FLASH A SENSE 5 (4.2.2) ROM ON THIS BAD BOY BY JUST FLASHING VIA RECOVERY?"
I'll then check the other powering off and stuff i read till i get my hands on my frnd's HOX. Cuz im a bit busy waiting for the Nexus 5 launch o.o
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you should update it first, that is a very old version, you should have updates available. as it is s-off you can flash anything you want but I think you will need to update the hboot first, once that is done you have a lot of options available to you
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you should update it first, that is a very old version, you should have updates available. as it is s-off you can flash anything you want but I think you will need to update the hboot first, once that is done you have a lot of options available to you
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Ermm... So i just update it via OTA? or flash a ROM of Sense 5 or. Something?
WasifSal said:
Ermm... So i just update it via OTA? or flash a ROM of Sense 5 or. Something?
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well with such a low version there must be quite a few OTA's waiting
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well with such a low version there must be quite a few OTA's waiting
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Yeah you might be right... So what you are suggesting is I do a ROM flashing? Seeing the phone is already s-offed and everything
Anyways can you please list me a step by step procedure? Seeing this is my friend's phone so not doing this on my own :x
Bump?
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Go to settings and check for an update. What we all recommend is that you send it to HTC, all untampered One Xs should still be in warranty, so send it to them, if it can't be fixed they'll send you a One X or a One X+, or sometimes they could send a HTC One if you're lucky :/
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humzaahmed155 said:
Go to settings and check for an update. What we all recommend is that you send it to HTC, all untampered One Xs should still be in warranty, so send it to them, if it can't be fixed they'll send you a One X or a One X+, or sometimes they could send a HTC One if you're lucky :/
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Nay i live in Pakistan :/ if this was in warranty even they wouldn't have accepted it :/ or requested a cost for it... Either way thanks for your reply... So doing an OTA update won't create problems on an S-OFFed device right?
WasifSal said:
Nay i live in Pakistan :/ if this was in warranty even they wouldn't have accepted it :/ or requested a cost for it... Either way thanks for your reply... So doing an OTA update won't create problems on an S-OFFed device right?
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OTA need relocked or locked device , stock recovery and stock ROM
and if you still have a problem with your g-sensor , check my signature , there is an alternative way to fix it
HTC Venom said:
OTA need relocked or locked device , stock recovery and stock ROM
and if you still have a problem with your g-sensor , check my signature , there is an alternative way to fix it
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bootloader doesn't need to be locked or relocked for ota, only stock rom, stock boot.img and stock recovery
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bootloader doesn't need to be locked or relocked for ota, only stock rom, stock boot.img and stock recovery
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Oh alright! Btw if i flash a recovery via fastboot, then i am able to flash (say) a custom ROM Sense 5, 4.2.2 right? Just asking for it i will update it by OTA (provided there isnt a custom recovery... Since i didnt check that) :/
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OTA need relocked or locked device , stock recovery and stock ROM
and if you still have a problem with your g-sensor , check my signature , there is an alternative way to fix it
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Oh i'll get right on it when i get my hands on the device can i request you to stay put to this thread? Cuz i will report back here
if you flash a custom recovery you can do anything you want, ie flash a rom, sense or no sense, or flash back to stock and because you are s-off you can even change your cid to install an update from a different region.
this can go on and on and people are starting to repeat themselves and you have had all the information you need to move forward. so what you need to do, as you say you cannot fix under warranty, is :- let the phone update via ota, this will update everything including the rom, the version of sense and the hboot. then once it is finished with all ota's available you can install a custom recovery( I recommend philz touch recovery or the latest twrp) and then you can flash all the rom's or mods you like.
and if you find you still have a problem with sensors check @HTC Venom signature for a possible solution
nogotaclue said:
if you flash a custom recovery you can do anything you want, ie flash a rom, sense or no sense, or flash back to stock and because you are s-off you can even change your cid to install an update from a different region.
this can go on and on and people are starting to repeat themselves and you have had all the information you need to move forward. so what you need to do, as you say you cannot fix under warranty, is :- let the phone update via ota, this will update everything including the rom, the version of sense and the hboot. then once it is finished with all ota's available you can install a custom recovery( I recommend philz touch recovery or the latest twrp) and then you can flash all the rom's or mods you like.
and if you find you still have a problem with sensors check @HTC Venom signature for a possible solution
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Woah thanks for that reply man! Keep in touch bro i'll update it with the details when my friend lends me his One X once again thanks!
same issue
WasifSal said:
Since i bought it second hand he told me "i gave you the phone when it was working. Even you checked it here in the shop. Not my fault.".... Thats the last time i ever buy a 2nd hand phone -.-
And he ain't wrong himself either... Anyways a helpful suggestion will be alot appreciated...
same thing happened to my one x also, bought it from olx, and it was new (somewhat)...g sensor not working...i did hard reset...and it started working, but again after few days its not working, and now i have done even factory reset, but not working
what should i do
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WasifSal said:
Since i bought it second hand he told me "i gave you the phone when it was working. Even you checked it here in the shop. Not my fault.".... Thats the last time i ever buy a 2nd hand phone -.-
And he ain't wrong himself either... Anyways a helpful suggestion will be alot appreciated...
same thing happened to my one x also, bought it from olx, and it was new (somewhat)...g sensor not working...i did hard reset...and it started working, but again after few days its not working, and now i have done even factory reset, but not working
what should i do
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Try to do the hard reset after couple of days. Once you feel your device is warm enough. Chances to get them back gets better with time
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i got them back except for temperature sensor....althought i did this thing several times, but once it worked out...i restarted the phone by long pressing the power button, even after the TURN OFF menu appears...on the start screen pressed volume down button to go in safe mode, all sensors started working, then i restarted mobile to come in normal mode.
working fine uptil now, i dont have restarted or powered off after that. so dont know if they will keep working after restart or again same problem will occur
all the people having same problem, just keep on trying restarts, safe mode, factory reset etc etc most probably they will start working. its just hit and trial

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