Hey folks, I'm a prior Inspire and Atrix 2 owner moving soon to the ion. My Atrix 2 caused me no end of troubles and AT&T offered to give me a new phone. Most people think I'm insane for not choosing the One x or the Atrix HD, but I have plenty of reasons to choose the ion. Is there anything I should know or be wary of before I jump in? It'll be about a week before my phone shows up. I already know that the bootloader is locked and the root is difficult and the ICS is supposedly on the way in a few weeks to a month or so, I'm really not super worried about any of that. I also have heard that the capacitive buttons are a pain.
I'm glad to be here!
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Hey folks, I'm a prior Inspire and Atrix 2 owner moving soon to the ion. My Atrix 2 caused me no end of troubles and AT&T offered to give me a new phone. Most people think I'm insane for not choosing the One x or the Atrix HD, but I have plenty of reasons to choose the ion. Is there anything I should know or be wary of before I jump in? It'll be about a week before my phone shows up. I already know that the bootloader is locked and the root is difficult and the ICS is supposedly on the way in a few weeks to a month or so, I'm really not super worried about any of that. I also have heard that the capacitive buttons are a pain.
I'm glad to be here!
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None of that's true imo. Root is pretty easy, we have ics via hk firmware, we have init.d support and a working cwm. The capacitive buttons are not a pain, just different.
I like the state of things on the ion, not one-click easy, but not expert level either. It's enough to get to learn my phone.
The only thing we're missing at this point is custom dev work, but it's coming.
Sent from Rooted LT28at with ICS.
Well, that makes me feel even better! I suppose that was just the impression I got from briefly picking through the forums here. Either way, I can't wait to get my ion.
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Hey folks, I'm a prior Inspire and Atrix 2 owner moving soon to the ion. My Atrix 2 caused me no end of troubles and AT&T offered to give me a new phone. Most people think I'm insane for not choosing the One x or the Atrix HD, but I have plenty of reasons to choose the ion. Is there anything I should know or be wary of before I jump in? It'll be about a week before my phone shows up. I already know that the bootloader is locked and the root is difficult and the ICS is supposedly on the way in a few weeks to a month or so, I'm really not super worried about any of that. I also have heard that the capacitive buttons are a pain.
I'm glad to be here!
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all you MAY or MAY NOT worry about are the call volume, speaker, battery life, and bootloader
call volume and speaker are acceptable to me and many, but some people complaint about it
short battery life is due to the LTE network, if you shut data down then it should last much longer. with LTE on, the battery should not last more than 24 hours
you don't need to worry about root or ICS but probably the bootloader
capacitive buttons are definitely not a pain. you should slide up on the icons to activate the functions. it's just a way sony prevents misclick, so blame sony for not pointing that out.
I don't think there's an LTE tower within 60 miles of here (and that's assuming Philly has LTE, if not...200 miles? Lol). As long as LTE doesn't affect battery life when you're not connected to an LTE tower, I ought to be fine. The battery is much bigger than my Atrix 2s and that had LTE as well.
I actually read about the sliding up. If that works as well as it sounds, it might actually be a nice feature.
I am quite happy with mine. ICS works quite well and the device has quite a bit of options built in. Cant really find allot of things I would change on it really. As for battery life I have not had any issue. I tend to stay on my wifi and we dont have LTE here but with heavy use I tend to see 13 hours fairly easy. With normal use I can go 24 hours or so. You should be pleased.
That's pretty impressive! Getting ICS on this device on my own right now is a bit daunting to me, but I'm sure it will come on its own in due time. What sort of "options" are you referring to? I quite enjoy the personalization of these devices, its the primary reason I chose Android in the first place.
Its not really as hard as it seems once you get adb setup properly. Just a guess but I highly doubt we will see a stock ATT ICS until after the new Sony device is released on ATT. With the Ion going to free so quickly it really does seem like it was test unit for the device that's coming as they are both quite similar in hardware.
As for options there are quite a few things you can change compared to some other devices. The themes are nice, ringer profiles, geo tagging has some neat features to view where you or friends have taken a photo, can add backgrounds to the lock screen, etc etc. Nothing really ground breaking but I find it to be a fun device.
One thing to note is battery use in my screen shots was with out using battery saving mode. The only app I have used that may contribute to my up time is Booster. Its a nice little app for keeping programs from staying on and has a time threshold for when it should kill apps. Fairly simple to set up and has a few other nice options.
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Just a guess but I highly doubt we will see a stock ATT ICS until after the new Sony device is released on ATT.
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You WILL see ICS before any new Sony device comes to AT&T.
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Welcome to the forums. I'm a former Atrix 2 owner myself. I find the Ion to be a more fluid and capable device. Sony did a fine job with this phone. ICS will be awesome I'm sure. I did run the Atrix 2 on ICS and it improved 10x. Sony did a better job with Gingerbread IMO. It's just an all around better platform in terms of hardware and dev support for the future as well. Read the Sony blogs for details. Great community here too! Almost everybody here is very positive, friendly and helpful. Congratulations on your new phone.
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I'm with you Silas, I've been using Samsung phones just got the Ion, it resembles my playstation 3 in the way it's designed. My Ion is still stock, Samsung phones seem impossible to brick. I want to root this Ion, but since I'm new to Sony I'm reading over every thing at least twice.
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Thanks folks! Yes, I'm expecting this phone to be a nice improvement overall. Lots of people are still amazed that I didn't go with the One X or the Galaxy S3, but I'm glad with my decision. Gingerbread on this phone does seem like a nice change from others. And I'm banking on that ICS sooner than later, Spectre!
I read some article at the Ion's release time saying that the capacitive buttons were hellish, and I've had exactly one issue with them responding since I got the phone on release date, and that was due to the phone freezing for 5 seconds (which, coincidentally, has also happened exactly once). As for flashing ICS, it's not at all difficult for someone of beginner or novice computer skill levels to figure it out in under an hour. In truth, it seems more daunting a task than the reality. You shouldn't have any problems with it, but if you do, there are more than a few kind members of the Ion board that would be more than happy to help you with even the simplest of questions, provided you ask in a polite manner. Congratulations on your new phone, and welcome to the community.
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I'm with you Silas, I've been using Samsung phones just got the Ion, it resembles my playstation 3 in the way it's designed. My Ion is still stock, Samsung phones seem impossible to brick. I want to root this Ion, but since I'm new to Sony I'm reading over every thing at least twice.
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I think I'll be reading over everything 10 times before I try it on this phone, lol. The root process on my Inspire was a bear, but the ion looks like defusing a bomb... lots of steps, one wrong move and you're toast.
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I think I'll be reading over everything 10 times before I try it on this phone, lol. The root process on my Inspire was a bear, but the ion looks like defusing a bomb... lots of steps, one wrong move and you're toast.
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It's one of those things that after you do it, you kind of look at yourself silly because you thought it was going to be so hard. The main problem people have (I know I did) is with making sure that the drivers are installed. Also make sure you're using the correct tools for the OS you're using.
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All I read in the forums are complaints about the Evo. I personally don't have a single issue with the phone aside from the awesomeness overdrive. Obviously, people will post/complain more about their issues than those who are completely happy with their phone. But it does skew the image of the Evo for those who happen to stumble on to XDA in hopes of researching the phone for future use. So here's a poll.
bump. i really want to know.
btw. how the frak do i change my signature?
if you can tell, its so damn old!
love it! and no issues!
Best phone I have ever owned or even used for that matter. Few issues but I think most will be solved within a month of release. Pretty damn impressive if u ask me.
Now if HTC would just release the source code we would be in heaven!!!
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love it! and no issues!
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Same here. If there were, I don't notice it and it doesn't bother me at all for me to completely disown this phone.
It's amazing in many ways and there's still plenty of room for improvements. The roms will certainly help this phone get there.
From the HTC Evo!!
How do I feel about the Evo..
Hmmm... EVO-lution. I was one of the very first in line at sprint and I have not put the damn thing down since. Even loosing sleep over it the phone is that awesome!
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How do I feel about the Evo..
Hmmm... EVO-lution. I was one of the very first in line at sprint and I have not put the damn thing down since. Even loosing sleep over it the phone is that awesome!
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Glad I'm not the only one. I find myself laying in bed at night doing stuff only to realize the sun is coming up....
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How do I feel about the Evo..
Hmmm... EVO-lution. I was one of the very first in line at sprint and I have not put the damn thing down since. Even loosing sleep over it the phone is that awesome!
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Ha! And my wife calls me a nerd and tells me to put it up. At least I'm not the only one.
Well, I haven't touched my laptop since Tuesday...I love it.
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Having this phone is really starting to mess with my circadian rhythm.
I don't feel anything....but there's alot I THINK about it.
I love it. It's the phone I wish I had years ago when the first iPhone came out. I had a Hero before, and I still liked my wifes 3GS, now with the larger screen of the EVO, I don't have that screen-envy anymore. The iPhone just looks tiny and awkward now.
What are the problems people in the poll are talking about? I don't have any issues with mine.
The people that come to this site repent one half of pone half of one percent of evo owners. The people you see here are either either true hackers, heard about how awesome rooting is and want to do it without reading directions, or find us by way of common search term for a specific issue they are having.
The point is, we may hear slot of complaining here, but its because we're part of a vocal and participatory minority.
I have an ipad for work, I had the pre and before that an htc touch pro before a myriad of other phones dating back to the nokia 101. The evo and android are the closest I have ever seen to fulfilling the promise of mobile technology and convenience.
The future is here, and many of the people reading these forums are holding it right now.
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My 2 Cents
I really like the EVO even though it has some issues like the Camera/Video quality for instance but most are mainly Network related so it would be a better experience had it been on T-Mobile...now the Dream/G1 A.K.A Valeria, (I named her that LOL) that's my baby, I love the **** out of that phone and still have it and probably would never get rid of it...many reasons why, it' the 1st Android phone, (so the Mother of all Androids) it's the White version (had it as soon as it was available) it was my first Smartphone and hacked phone from which I learned a little bit of Linux and it was given to me as a present on my Birthday by the love of my life...yea it's official, I'm never getting rid of that phone! Sorry, most of that had nothing to do with the EVO
I love it but my main gripes are the Android Market. Hopefully more devs make more apps or port some over. The app store isn't really organize and I would like to see some spotlighted apps or recommendations based on what apps you have installed.
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I really like the EVO even though it has some issues like the Camera/Video quality for instance but most are mainly Network related so it would be a better experience had it been on T-Mobile...now the Dream/G1 A.K.A Valeria, (I named her that LOL) that's my baby, I love the **** out of that phone and still have it and probably would never get rid of it...many reasons why, it' the 1st Android phone, (so the Mother of all Androids) it's the White version (had it as soon as it was available) it was my first Smartphone and hacked phone from which I learned a little bit of Linux and it was given to me as a present on my Birthday by the love of my life...yea it's official, I'm never getting rid of that phone! Sorry, most of that had nothing to do with the EVO
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I had the g1 too. Learned stuff with that. I had to sell mine to help me pay for this phone. I miss it, but I love the Evo.
From the HTC Evo!!
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I love it but my main gripes are the Android Market. Hopefully more devs make more apps or port some over. The app store isn't really organize and I would like to see some spotlighted apps or recommendations based on what apps you have installed.
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Yeah. The market needs to go through a major makeover. Some apps are crappy. Needs for categories.. etc. I don't even bother browsing through it. I just search and go.
From the HTC Evo!!
I love my phone....I been hoping to run into someone who has a iPhone so I can say ...hhhhhhaaaaaaa hhhhaaaaa!!!
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I mean, common, with all the people asking if they should get an iphone or this, or what's better, this or the nexus, or all that other crap, am I the only one who realizes the absolute potential of this phone and how it pwns (excuse the crude terminology xD) basicly every other device out there including the crackberries and isucks, like just today I got about two hours total talk time, bout 5 hours online, wifi on for about 4 hours, bout 5 hours music through bluetooth and bout two through 3.5mm (damn thing lasted longer then my s10-HD), Data/gps and bluetooth on all day and going on 15hours uptime with 22% left on battery.
It performs extremely quick, compatible with basicly everything droid and ahead of the current market including the new nexus in specs, what's to question? The fact that carriers are being slow to release an update?
We already know that itl be comming fully touchcrapped out, and most people on this forums definitely aren't experienced enough to lay their hands on a system file let alone build a rom and will have to wait till someone releases a AOSP style build, with that being said, we don't need the carriers, only the drivers, then we can port what we need, so, why all the complaining, I say simply, if if you question the purchase, go for the alternitave, you probably couldn't handle the device properly anyways.
Opinions? And keep it clean, believe it or not, I'm actually going for a "healthy" discussion xD
I choose this one.
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Ya... i had this phone since early november. Everthing u said i agree and most of us already knows..Whats new? I dont get the point of this thread.
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I do + characters n ****
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This phones awesome in every sense (obviously personal opinion)
I don't know how anyone could question it you can do so much with it its incredibly user friendly and poweful, easy as hell to flash, (although that counter sucks...),
Good lineup of cases, amazing screen and perfect resolution, I even like some* (very little) of TW,
I still say if you have to ask yourself, take the iphone xD
@anomy13
Just a little speal or rant about, well, wverything in my first post..
Suxs.....OP, not phone
Are u aware of the lines and blobs problem?
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I LOVE this phone, it's a monster!
I can close to literally do anything and EVERYTHING with it.
A side note is that this is Android, and if you're not too bright then you're just wasting your phones potential and would be better off with an iPhone.
Idk why so many ppl worry about these lines and blobs, you obviously have to look for them in order for them to get annoying... Either that or I don't have them as bad and atrocious as others say they are.
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Are u aware of the lines and blobs problem?
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Sure am and sad for the few that have it, mine didn't, first one didn't either
@audscot
Lmfao ur a moron what u one of the n00bs I've shut up b4 and back winin or sumthin?
@above
Ye lol I like the processor and gig of ram part with my 16gb sdcard xD
Even compressing large zips are a breeze on it, and even with apps like android hexeditors and droidedit (notepad++ for droid with awesome features basicly) you don't even need a pc really xD you can basicly do what you need right from it,
haven't turned on my pc in about 3 days, on fibre optics and 802.11n router, I burnt through 400gb on my bandwidth last month xD)
I love this phone no doubt despite the lines problem i notice sometimes. But you actually get used to it.
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tdizzle404 said:
I choose this one.
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Least you got a white obe xD telus didn't have any when I exchangex my first one, which they didn't have any then... and probably don't now...
Love the phone, I get bored pretty easily but have had this phone for a while now. Maybe it's the wait to see what ROMs come out of it (knowing Eugene is working on cm7 is great). Maybe it's just that there really isn't anything better at the moment for me.
Also as far as I know, Telus never got the white SII X
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I love this phone, even with touchcrap and lack of ICS/CM (for now) its great. I'm excited to see CM 7 better supported soon and eventually CM9, that will be a great day for me lol.
As for the lines and blobs...after flashing newer kernels with updated skyrocket drivers it is reduced quite a bit.
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I love this phone, even with touchcrap and lack of ICS/CM (for now) its great. I'm excited to see CM 7 better supported soon and eventually CM9, that will be a great day for me lol.
As for the lines and blobs...after flashing newer kernels with updated skyrocket drivers it is reduced quite a bit.
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Ye I love the lil things in crapwizz like turning of auto brightness and holding the status bar to adjust, and other **** like that, the GUI is to big in my opinion, icons are huge, fun to theme though, got CS5 so pngs are really fun
CM9 will definitely please a lot of people that's for sure, I just want drivers its pretty bad when I can build ICS for my old ass 3g lg (fun times.. good old days..) and I can dev all I want but its useless without proper sources xD
Those with like first edition s2x are probably having the blobs worse, samsung being cheap again, (look at the nexus..)
Find an excuse to RMA, that aughta do it
@christ1119
Ye it sucks... they look ballin woulda looked weird in a ballistics case though I guess..
I, too, love this phone. There's not a phone on the market I would rather being using.
It's got the best hardware of any current phone (except the Skyrocket, and that's the same phone for all intents and purposes since I'm not on AT&T).
Only thing I miss from it is AOSP ROMs, but that's just software, and those will come in time.
Nice to see some positiveness on this forum.
I was just about to order a galaxy nexus and this thread is holding me off for a bit.lol
I effin love this phone as stated in this thread it does everything i need it to and more. The fact that it is a qualcomm does not bother me it is more then capable of tearing anything u throw at it up. And as far as the lines go i dont see them even on low setting nor do i care to look for them. I think this phone hulk smashs every phone out there and can only imagine how much fasrer it will be when we do get ics and use the processor to its full potential coupled with true hw accelaration. I cant wait
Couple screenies....i think this is my new setup for awhile
Heres lockscreen and home screen
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if ur on tmobil, this device gives you the best overall performance/network experience.
the original sgs2 has.better hardware but cant do dual band hspa+ 42mbps.
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I agree with everything in the OP, to be honest, I had issues with GB and bugs on my other devices like my G2x (major issues on that, didn't wanna root it cause the dual core was pretty awesome but still did because of the ****ty stock rom). But ever since I switched to my SGS2, although being different from the original, no update to ICS in sight anytime soon, I'm least bothered by it, this is probably the most complete and bugless stock rom I've had on any device, I don't mind touch wiz one bit, know others don't like it but it's cool by me, there is a few things I wish I could change on it but ey it works, it's smooth and all the neat little features are actually pretty sweet. I actually use the default apps for just about everything, the response and performance is awesome compared to my previous phones (G2x response was pretty nice too btw just crappy bugs), only thing I had an issue with is my gps signal being lost at times or taking a while to lock on, but I kinda figured out why since it only happens in certain areas where I live, other than that, I'm pleased and loving my phone, not in much of a hurry for ICS since I can do everything I need to on the current system software and data speeds are awesome and the camera takes beautiful pics, what more could I ask for?
(Wish we had a little more support on accessories though, like cases and stuff like iPhones do, I have about 10 cases to choose from, most being plain, they have a bloody wall full of 'em in all designs and patterns you could think of, unfair much? Lol)
So I have never considered the S3 before, but I have two weeks left to replace my One X (Second One X with dodgy compass) and I am wondering whether to just give up and ask for a S3 instead.
First of all let me say that I LOVE the One X, and the better screen and sleeker looks are more than enough for me to pick it over the S3 with it's otherwise stronger specs - were it not for the faults with the device.
Build quality is iffy, and I have had two HOXes now, both of which have had dodgy gps which just don't work (they show me spinning around on the spot and moving around rapidly on the map when I am standing still). But perhaps getting another replacement would fix that.
But that isn't all. The fact that wi-fi turns off when the phone goes into stand-by is a huuge inconvenience, as I have to keep on interacting with the phone whenever I am down/uploading a large file, so it doesn't stop half way through. I shouldn't have to do this.
Also, the multi-tasking is pretty awful and doesn't seem to have been coded well at all.
Now my question is, do you guys foresee these problems being sorted out in the not-too-distant future, or are you considering switching over to the S3 as well? Also, do you expect the S3 to have similar problems when it comes out?
I just want to reiterate that I love this phone and really don't want to slag it off, but the combined problems are really getting me down, and I don't think an expensive top-end mobile should should be so flawed.
TY for any thoughts and opinions in advance.
EDIT: Ok well. Two of the biggest problems I had with the One X seem to have been solved already.
First of all, the 1.29.0.11 (??) patch has apparently fixed multi-tasking.
Also, some genius has managed to show me a fix for the wi-fi turning off when the phone is in standby.
Crabitpig said:
There's an app on the market (power saver settings by Derek r Randall)that let's you into the hidden HTC power settings from there untick the WiFi auto disconect and also keep never sleep selected from the advanced WiFi menu.hit thanks if this helps
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I tried this out, and my phone's wifi now stays connected even when the screen is turned off!! Woop!!!!
Still leaves the factor of a dodgy GPS, but I am more than happy to get a replacement HOX as the other main problems have been alleviated
Same question for me. I got 2nd one atm and still got probs with it. Like the GPS like you, gap on the side, WiFi turnin off....... I like this thing and I want it workin but now I'm in the role that I could change to another device on Vodafone Germany because its getting the 3rd replacement. I don't know what to do too... Greetz
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I am !
does the wifi go off when the screen is off whether u r downloading or not?
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does the wifi go off when the screen is off whether u r downloading or not?
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I own a sensation but when I'm not dling, the WiFi goes off when screen is off.
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does the wifi go off when the screen is off whether u r downloading or not?
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Yes.
But even if it stayed on until the download was finished, that wouldn't be OK in my opinion.
I am for at least 12 months. As much as the lack of s-off is annoying it isn't the deal breaker so long as HTC are releasing pretty regular updates for the bugs found. As far as my devices build quality is concerned I have no problems. Just not worth using htcdev until half way through my contract risking the loss of warranty.
The device itself should entertain me as is for 12 months. Hunting S-OFF is a side attraction until then post that date root via htcdev will see me the latter half of the contract by keeping me interested.
Sticking with One X for now unless something real enticing comes. SGS3 was a disappointment IMO. Maybe the Sony GX or the next Nexus I'll upgrade. Maybe even iPhone 5
SGS3 has multitasking problems also according to a reviewer/user if we're talking about the same problem.
Wi-Fi should be fixed, One S had it fixed I believe.
I personally haven't run into wi-fi problems recently. For a a little while when running a new build of ARHD, I all of a sudden got the wi-fi problems ppl were talking about. Didn't have the problems before that. Switched over to LeeDroid and haven't run into the wi-fi problem since.
You can set a longer screen off time when downloading, also I'm sorry to say I don't have the same problems :/
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as much as i hate to say this i am undecided as well..now if my carrier comes back to me and they say i can replace my handset then i will go for the s3. now do not get me wrong i love my one x. but at the same time with all the issues going on kinda puts me off. hence how do i know i will not get another dodgy one..if they say they can only repair it then i will hold off sending it as it is still fully functional and were i have the creaking i stuck a case over it and it has stopped for now..so it goes like this
replace it for me then i am going for the s3
if they say no then one x it is and still a great device and i have recommended it to a few of my friends and hoping they get a good batch
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Sticking with One X for now unless something real enticing comes. SGS3 was a disappointment IMO. Maybe the Sony GX or the next Nexus I'll upgrade. Maybe even iPhone 5
SGS3 has multitasking problems also according to a reviewer/user if we're talking about the same problem.
Wi-Fi should be fixed, One S had it fixed I believe.
I personally haven't run into wi-fi problems recently. For a a little while when running a new build of ARHD, I all of a sudden got the wi-fi problems ppl were talking about. Didn't have the problems before that. Switched over to LeeDroid and haven't run into the wi-fi problem since.
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you aren't serious about the iPhone, aren't you ?
im selling mine when i borrow a camera for pics. i made a mistake leaving Samsung. i might get the nexus though. Google wallet might actually work. i have never seen so many duplicate threads, clueless users, and mods choosing when to enforce rules and when not to.
I'm selling mine as soon as it comes back from HTC, should be a brand new one. I won't open it and will sell it straight away and buy a S3.
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Are you guys really sure the Samsung will not have bugs ?
I will stay with my OneX ... i am sure it will be better and better ... and i dnt want such a ugly phone in my pocket lol
muamers said:
Are you guys really sure the Samsung will not have bugs ?
I will stay with my OneX ... i am sure it will be better and better ... and i dnt want such a ugly phone in my pocket lol
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Yeah it is pretty nasty looking isn't it! I also don't like the idea of having 16gb base memory even if it is expandable. I much prefer the 32gb internal memory of the One X over Micro SD as it is so much quicker - and I dont need to fork out even more money for an SD card.
Hmmmm..... This is really annoying. Why couldnt you just get the phone right HTC!!??
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you aren't serious about the iPhone, aren't you ?
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Depends if its actually good. I have an upgrade with att. Will probably use it either way and if it doesn't look good ill just sell it off.
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The question is no different than asking "which should I buy, a M-B E Class or BMW 5 Series?" Both have strengths and weaknesses and neither is immune from issues.
The same applies to the One X vs. SGS3 comparison.
Here's a list of reasons why not to get a One X over a SGS3.
1) You like SAMOLED displays.
2) You need better battery life than the 1800mAh non-removable battery in the One X can provide.
3) You want removable storage.
4) You don't like the One X design or are partial to the SGS3's.
5) You like TouchWiz better than Sense.
6) HTC's new warranty policy for flashing third-party ROMs either scares you or pisses you off.
7) You fancy some of the s/w features like Direct Talk, S-Voice, and Smart Stay.
8) You use $300 plus headphones or have several thousands of dollars’ worth of home A/V equipment and the Wolfson DAC's important.
Here's a list of things that are going to be the same.
1) Initial build quality issues.
2) Initial s/w problems.
3) Variations from display-to-display.
4) Durability and longevity.
5) Excellent development support.
Voice calls, e-mail, MMS, social, and web browsing make up 70% of what people do with smartphones. In those areas it would be hard to tell the two phones apart. Happy decision making.
P.S. – For those on their 9th exchange, now hate HTC for whatever reason, or have expectations no phone ever produced could meet; there’s no need to re-post what you’ve most likely already posted a dozen times. I, and I’m sure others get it; the One X has some launch issues and because of that your life is forever altered.
sticking with it.. does everything I need and it's the sexiest phone on the market right now. so why would I need to move? Plus I'm on a 2 year contract so doesn't justify me breaking my contract or selling my phone for less than its actual worth.
@BarryH I think that's a little unfair. I wasn't trying to run through faults that have already been covered at great length elsewhere on the forum. Nor was I asking for a basic tally of pros and cons of S3 versus the One X.
My aim was to gauge the community's loyalty towards the One X given the faults and flaws that the device shipped with, and whether many would be making the switch over to the S3.
Also, the majority of the problems with the One X are not examples of people being overly picky or entitled - they are cases of the phone simply not doing what it was designed to do. Now I have no idea if or how long it will take HTC to fix them, but that is why I asked what peoples' thoughts about that where in the original post.
Thanks for responding
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@BarryH I think that's a little unfair.
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I wasn't faulting your original question. Sorry if it came across that way. The One X vs. SGS3 comparison/debate will be ongoing for most of the year. I was just trying to provide a check list for people on the fence. I'd guess most people leaving the One X would be going to the SGS3 anyway. I never did answer your original question. I'm getting a SGS3 and using it for a week or two before deciding which phone to keep. And not because I think there's anything wrong with the One X.
Hey guys I'm from the Xperia X8 forums (yeah, reeeeeaaallly long way from home). I'm getting a One X in less than 2 weeks and I was wondering if you guys can tell me if this phone is worth it ? I actually like this phone more than the S3, which I've been told by many to get over the One X. So I was wondering, could you guys tell me if it's worth getting, what are the pros and cons and do you regret getting it and if you do, what would be a better alternative ? I have read and read TONS of reviews online and all I can say is that the reviews are mixed, but quite positive. Besides, if it's one thing i trust its the opinions and advice of XDA Members Hope to hear some good news
- RohinZaraki (probably your future newbie)
I dont regret buying the hox, it has a strong shell which in fact still looks like new in my case. It is very fast, especially with custom roms! If you had to pay the extra money for the s3, i would ast it I'd not worth it. (in The Netherlands the s3 is more expensive) With the ongoing rom support, and the development of better and faster roms every week! there is a lot of fun flashing to come! I especially look out for the finished versions of Cyanogenmod 10/ Jellybean roms!
Hope this helps a little bit..
Thanks for that what I'm worried tho is about the many reports of faulty One X's which go bust within a week of use
I had an xperia x8 before the hox and my god how did I live with such a tiny screen lol, I do miss the 4 - 5 battery life
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This phone is definitely worth it, speaking from a person who.upgraded their gs2 after about 3 months usage I won't be upgrading this for a long time. My brother owns a gs3 and there isn't much difference even in battery life. You can't go wrong with whichever one you buy.
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Depending on when you need your new phone, you could wait for the One X+. However, both the S3 and One X are great devices, I just prefer the build quality, design and screen (especially in the sun!) of the One X.
sensation lover said:
This phone is definitely worth it, speaking from a person who.upgraded their gs2 after about 3 months usage I won't be upgrading this for a long time. My brother owns a gs3 and there isn't much difference even in battery life. You can't go wrong with whichever one you buy.
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So your saying that batter life is the same? funny because i see s3 users always end up here boosting how they can easily get 5 + hours batter life ect. ect.
As a HOX owner, I'll tell you that the One X isn't worth it. Don't get me wrong, it's the prettiest phone available right now. But as someone with a membership here, you have to know that the device support is crappy as well as, at least in my case, the device itself. How many phones on here have a bugs poll at launch[1]? Now here's the thing though, while I think there's a bunch of faults with the HOX, I can't actually recommend an alternative. All I can say is that the phone will give you headaches as it has a ton of issues and a minimal amount of devs.
[1] http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1592430
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As a HOX owner, I'll tell you that the One X isn't worth it. Don't get me wrong, it's the prettiest phone available right now. But as someone with a membership here, you have to know that the device support is crappy as well as, at least in my case, the device itself. How many phones on here have a bugs poll at launch[1]? Now here's the thing though, while I think there's a bunch of faults with the HOX, I can't actually recommend an alternative. All I can say is that the phone will give you headaches as it has a ton of issues and a minimal amount of devs.
[1] http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1592430
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Remember a much higher number of people complain than praise, that poll is not at all fair it's just a small poll on a small number of XDA members.
In the real world, there are more perfect than defect devices, I myself got a HOX 2 days after release and it is perfect no issues at all.
the only issues and headaches i have had are ones i have caused myself.
and it's not the number of devs that is important but the quality of work they do.
One X is excellent piece of kit but like anything else everything comes with an issue. Early fails should now be rectified in newer batches. But if I was you I'd wait for the One X+ only around the corner. Possibly 64gb, LTE, slightly faster whilst keeping the best of the One X. Only if price isn't an issue it should make the current One X cheaper.
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Remember a much higher number of people complain than praise, that poll is not at all fair it's just a small poll on a small number of XDA members.
In the real world, there are more perfect than defect devices, I myself got a HOX 2 days after release and it is perfect no issues at all.
the only issues and headaches i have had are ones i have caused myself.
and it's not the number of devs that is important but the quality of work they do.
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You're right in that the quality of the devs is more important than the number, after all, my previous phone was a HTC Incredible S, we basically had one CM dev, but that dev kept the device super stable, even in terms of nightlies. However when CM9 and now CM10 have come out, it's an almost forgotten device. You also look at the HOX with CM9, Interepresentation started but never finished. Look at TGasgoine's AOSP, started but on a break. These things matter when it comes to maintaining a device, there needs to be enough of a developer ecosystem to see others pick up the work. It especially matters with our device being a Tegra 3 as so much of the work is fresh ground.
You're also right that more people complain, however that doesn't negate the complaints. It seems to be a lottery over getting a good device. Hilarious since HTC are being so staunch about repairing/replacing locked bootloaders.
Oh and it should also be mentioned that there's no S-OFF for this device, even on the horizon and the only bootloader unlocker available is via the official HTCDEV.com and it's important to remember that htcdev only partially unlocks the bootloader. So things like overclocking and undervolting aren't possible right now.
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You're right in that the quality of the devs is more important than the number, after all, my previous phone was a HTC Incredible S, we basically had one CM dev, but that dev kept the device super stable, even in terms of nightlies. However when CM9 and now CM10 have come out, it's an almost forgotten device. You also look at the HOX with CM9, Interepresentation started but never finished. Look at TGasgoine's AOSP, started but on a break. These things matter when it comes to maintaining a device, there needs to be enough of a developer ecosystem to see others pick up the work. It especially matters with our device being a Tegra 3 as so much of the work is fresh ground.
You're also right that more people complain, however that doesn't negate the complaints. It seems to be a lottery over getting a good device. Hilarious since HTC are being so staunch about repairing/replacing locked bootloaders.
Oh and it should also be mentioned that there's no S-OFF for this device, even on the horizon and the only bootloader unlocker available is via the official HTCDEV.com and it's important to remember that htcdev only partially unlocks the bootloader. So things like overclocking and undervolting aren't possible right now.
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Sorry but you can already undervolt if you have unlocked your bootloader, just use a custom kernel.
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nikzDHD said:
Sorry but you can already undervolt if you have unlocked your bootloader, just use a custom kernel.
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Are you sure? Undervolting, just like overclocking should reset at reboot.
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Are you sure? Undervolting, just like overclocking should reset at reboot.
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Only if you don't use any "set on boot options"
I always make sure my oc/uv are not set on boot just in case.
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Sorry to bump this thread but I felt I had to. It's been nearly a month since I got my OX and I have to say I regret nothing thank you all.
I have a HOX and its the best phone I've ever owned, and I've had many android phones and rooted them and put custom roms on them all. But this doesn't need, Imo. My wife and father inlaw both have S3s and they both have many problems like overheating, random reboots, and bad battery. The both got the jellybean update and things seem to be ok for them now. But when we get ours it will make a great phone even greater. Htc all the way.
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Got one for my wife yesterday and its superb. The camera and build quality is great and really why I got it for her. Folders on home screens are an essential for her. Not seen what battery life's like but if its bad JB update will improve it probably. Love how when I slide my finger across the screen at the edge its seamless and glides off the edge. Its things like that, that HTC have done really well. Its the easiest android phone and anyone can pick it up and easily use it but I can't say that for some of the others.
I really want one but 32gb is not enough. I have a SGS2 and like that I have an SD card.
I did consider one x + but they are just trying to shift more before their new phones come out and I won't buy into that. HTC butterfly for me
I purchased hers from amazon warehouse used but from amazon directly so I knew if I had issues I could replace it easy. No issues yet. Joy to use.
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I see post about laggy and blah blah I mean this phone isn't perfect but with some adjustments it's a bad ass phone I love it I mean I would love root but it's not a reason to return the phone or anything.. Just saying this phone is really good imho
I agree. It's just that the shortcomings are detrimental for the user experience depending on the issue.
I can see battery life being one if you're a busy person.
Touch screen will drive anyone absolutely bananas
All depends on the batch I guess
Im loving the phone, prob best I've had. Not having root is a small problem but I'll live with that. I've not had touch screen issues or over heating problems.
Its not you, people who are happy dont *****. You only hear the complainers, and there are always going to be people who expect manufactured products to be flawless with no exception or fail rate. Just not realistic. The phone is really nice, has great picture and a great camera.. I have owned several different brands and recently an S6. THere is nothing wrong with this phone. I do feel that at this current rate we may never see root, but i also find this being the first phone that would not be and end all problem for me. If you are happy with the phone, what else matters?
I love it. I do wish tap to wake and the knock code worked better, but they'll be fixed someday. They do seem to work better after rebooting, so I reboot occasionally throughout the day when I'm putting my phone away.
Once we get root and custom roms this phone will be awesome.
Be sure to block the OTA updates so the carriers can't prevent you from getting root!
The G4 is a very well balanced product. Like anything though it has its flaws and it won't please everyone, namely as we all have different likes but most important expectations.
I never expect for my phone's purchased to act like a time travelling device (although beam me up scotty that would be cool ?).
What i do expect is functionality and the G4 meets that for me. Just one thing that Google needs desperately is better optimisation between software & hardware.
Android M who knows may be the answer to our prayers.
But overall hell yeah the G4 is good ?
I think the phone is perfect in most all ways. Software can be buggy and lag at times but that will all get cleared up soon enough!
I upgraded from a Galaxy S5 and even though it isn't a huge leap in terms of performance and battery life (battery life quite the opposite, unfortunately) I enjoy my phone very much.
And as I have an international H815 I rooted it the first day I could unlock the BL. 10A was silky smooth and my only "regret" is that I actually flashed 10C. It's a bit less smooth, a bit laggier now and then. Could be an app too, though. So. all things considered I'm very happy. I don't understand why the leather back doesn't have Qi but that's a different beef ..
Great phone, great UI (though I hate having to use an app like ROM Toolbox to change font and the korean crap themes from LG are absolutely horrible).
Regarding all the threads about problems and issues .. Well, that's what XDA is mostly about. You don't need to discuss how great a phone works, you need to discuss and solve problems..
And since no one's, as far as I can understand it, developing custom roms/CM-builds for it yet all you could discuss are problems.
Does it seem like G4s have lots of issues? Not really. Considering the volumes of manufactured phones you will always have broken phones that slipped through quality control. Firmwares are tested but it's impossible to soak test/lab test a phone's software with every app in the App Store..
Not to mention issues with carriers like the retarded US carriers that disable features and sideload their own generic crapware apps and push updates like there's no tomorrow...
All the forums of all the phones I've had since I started reading XDA have looked exactly the same: Early adopters with, sometimes, premature software/firmware ***** and moan, after a while custom roms/root happen and people cheer like madmen, then ***** and moan about premature custom roms.
And the circlejerk is complete.
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I love it. I do wish tap to wake and the knock code worked better, but they'll be fixed someday.
Once we get root and custom roms this phone will be awesome.
Be sure to block the OTA updates so the carriers can't prevent you from getting root!
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Do you know how to find out if you have a 1 or 0 bootloader
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Do you know how to find out if you have a 1 or 0 bootloader
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Autoprime discusses it here and seems to be updating the post as new information comes out.
I have the H815 rooted with TWRP and I couldn't be happier with this phone. I don't have touch screen issues, or lag issues, or camera issues, etc. Coupled with the battery and sdcard promos, it was a win/win/win for me when I bought this phone.
i love the responses why do you say we may never see root i love this device lol i need adaway!
OP: is this your first smartphone? Did you have a flip phone before?
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I love my phone and have had absolutely zero issues with it
People who enjoy the phone tend to stay quiet. People who have problems post comments wondering others are experiencing the same. Its pretty much for all phones and gadgets.
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I have actually been LOVING my G4. My old daily driver was the Galaxy Note Edge but then I stumbled on this fella (my first in the G-Series and second LG device) and kind of fell in love with it right off the bat.
So I ended up picking up one for a new daily driver. Right after that though I found out about the no-root issue so then I went out and picked up a couple more of them (I figure I might as well do my part as far as root goes and that will probably end with me bricking one or two of them, so better safe than sorry).
TL;DR -- Yes, I love the hell out of this phone.
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I see post about laggy and blah blah I mean this phone isn't perfect but with some adjustments it's a bad ass phone I love it I mean I would love root but it's not a reason to return the phone or anything.. Just saying this phone is really good imho
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I love it
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I gave up my S6 Edge for this phone. Best move I have ever made on a cell phone. Absolutely love it. I had one in a good batch though. Sort of sucks that you have to get lucky to like a phone.
Same with me
Z3ldaFan88 said:
I have actually been LOVING my G4. My old daily driver was the Galaxy Note Edge but then I stumbled on this fella (my first in the G-Series and second LG device) and kind of fell in love with it right off the bat.
So I ended up picking up one for a new daily driver. Right after that though I found out about the no-root issue so then I went out and picked up a couple more of them (I figure I might as well do my part as far as root goes and that will probably end with me bricking one or two of them, so better safe than sorry).
TL;DR -- Yes, I love the hell out of this phone.
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What I came from a note edge as well at first I was worried I made a mistake but his phone is better I just missing having the edge but not a reason to go back
I love my G4! The only annoyance is the slow charging when the screen is on..