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I think the only reason to use Sense is for the Rosie.
I like the keyboard. Widgets are cool. Sense camera app takes better pictures too.
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For the camera, I use Pro Paint Camera. It's a free app in the market and takes great pics
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I think the only reason to use Sense is for the Rosie.
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For some reason, with all the added bloat and all, the Sense 4 ROM namely UKB runs smoother than the AOSP ROMs in my opinion. The AOSP ROMs are smooth at the beginning, but they start getting sluggish soon. Sense 4 gets sluggish too, but I find it manageable. Plus it doesn't have a few bugs that annoy me on ICS ROMs.
In my opinion the Sense camera and the beautiful widgets are the only advantages.
AOSP is so much faster and more responsive...period. And many things about Sense are illogical and frustrating.
I guess you could say I like AOSP more because it makes more...sense
Sense is icky
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Sense is icky
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Except for sense 4
Sense vs AOSP is all about personal preference. The only way you'll figure out which you prefer is to try a couple of each and see what makes you happy.
AOSP. End of Discussion for me.
With how well designed ics and jb are sense just looks gaudy
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Aosp is way better. Sense IMHO is killing htc
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Weres MIUI in all this? It's pretty big
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Miui is aosp.
Sense - srz or gtfo
Aosp - aeros 05/30 cm9 kang ftw
Sense it just too frilly and too much eye candy for me. (Sense 3.5-). I love stock 4.x
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HTC Sense is good for camera. I found No autofocus without HTC sense.
Anybody know good ROM with autofocus without HTC sense .
A while ago, I would've said that Sense is more responsive in the keyboard department. But with the latest Sense ROMs I've used (UKB, IC Tazz, ArcticIcsed, EclipticSense, etc.), I find that the Sense ROMs don't feel as responsive as AOSP ROMs when the keyboard is concerned. Plus, Sense focuses too much on eye candy and is too flashy for me.
So the only benefit Sense has that's better than AOSP is the camera since the features and quality excels compared to AOSP.
If only HTC removed a lot of the bloat save for the essential ones and made the rest downloadable at the Play Store or HTC Hub.
But still, I think the devs are truly awesome for making the awesome ROMs I've tried and used.
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I think that sense 4 looks great. However it uses a lot of RAM, and can be slow on lower end devices.
But ICS/JB looks even better compaired to vanilla gingerbread. And its always very responsive (Even after it starts to slow down).
If the sense 3.6 ICS OTA can give me at least 250mb of RAM. Then ill go with that. (If the OTA can get 250mbs of RAM, I know that we could get 100% functional sense 4 that has at least 200mbs of RAM.)
Anything else ill use CM 10.
This is all depending on if we get ICS.
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I actually hated the stock rom with my Dinc2 and that was the only reason I rooted my phone and just not a fan of the sense roms. Since rooting my phone I have tried CM 7.2, CM 9, and I am currently using Paranoid Android 1.98. I liked ICS but after using the Hybrid JB I am hooked. Granted there are a few bugs with the JB but as far as looks and smoothness I just can't move away from it. I have yet to try a Miui rom...I hear they are great too.
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I think that sense 4 looks great. However it uses a lot of RAM, and can be slow on lower end devices.
But ICS/JB looks even better compaired to vanilla gingerbread. And its always very responsive (Even after it starts to slow down).
If the sense 3.6 ICS OTA can give me at least 250mb of RAM. Then ill go with that. (If the OTA can get 250mbs of RAM, I know that we could get 100% functional sense 4 that has at least 200mbs of RAM.)
Anything else ill use CM 10.
This is all depending on if we get ICS.
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I think this speaks for itself when it comes to sense4.
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Yeah, using RAM usage as a metric of system performance seems a tad naive. I experienced sluggishness on both Sense and AOSP even with loads of free RAM. On the other side, I also observe that while Sense 4 may use more RAM to keep all their fancy graphics/textures and stuff in memory, I also experienced a much more snappy response on Rosie. I do feel that Rosie is a far better launcher than the ones bundled with AOSP ROMs... After loading a lot of widgets, those launchers start to stutter a bit too often, but the stuttering is infrequent with Rosie. However, I am high on Sense4 of late and I am possibly a bit biased. But, isn't that expected in a thread asking a question of personal preference? As far as the standard bloat is concerned, as noted above I too manage to run the Sense 4 ROM with an average of 200-250 MB of free RAM. I do remember AOSP taking about as much. My only criticism of Sense 4 is the poor Email app, but that is readily rectified using the stock Email app from ICS. My gripe with AOSP is the lack of an inbuilt timer (I use it often), the lack of a FM app (I rarely use it but as a matter of principle, I frown upon Google and the whole AOSP front for not being able to make a working FM app... the one in CM7 is just way too buggy that and there isn't one useful app on the market either)...
I'll be back with more gripes later. Peace.
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Currently running myn's warm two point two rls4. I love the screen transitions/animations and it's incredibly stable. There just seems to be a lack of customization available on it. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. I may just be looking in the wrong place.
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Maybe one of the Sense(less) roms??? with Cyanogen stuff baked into it?? Cyanogen has a billion options
I'm running Skyraider 3.5 and I love it, I wish I could get my buttons to work with MM but w.e I've never had an issue with Skyraider unless it was one I created lol.
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Try uber. That's one of the new z sense roms - dramatically more features than old sense roms, heavily customizable too. Also much faster than old sense roms.
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Skyraider is by far the best ROM I've found. I've got both Sense and Athena on my SD card and switch between them depending on my mood. My preference is definitely for Athena (Sense-less) and it's even better with LaunchPad Pro Plus. It's way faster than the stock ROM, LOTS of customization and excellent support.
I've been running myn's warm two point two rls5 for a while now and really like it. I'm looking to try CM7 soon, but MW has been VERY stable (no FC's), very smooth feeling and I've been able to customize by battery meter (speedometer type?). I use launcher pro to keep my desktop clean (just sense clock and smooth calendar).
If you're looking for tons of customizations check out Chingy's Incredibly Reengineered he has a ton of stuff you can change. Tons of different rosies, batteries, etc. Plus, its supposed to be super fast
(haven't tried it personally).
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If you're looking for tons of customizations check out Chingy's Incredibly Reengineered he has a ton of stuff you can change. Tons of different rosies, batteries, etc. Plus, its supposed to be super fast
(haven't tried it personally).
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Its a great rom, been using it about a week. Tons of mods, im running the senseless re_engineered with lpp pro and its fast in every aspect
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Its a great rom, been using it about a week. Tons of mods, im running the senseless re_engineered with lpp pro and its fast in every aspect
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Just switched to it myself and I have to agree, its a great overall rom. Might switch to Chad's kernel though
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Check out Incredibly Re-Engineered, it's a nice sense rom and it's fast.
If you ever decide to move away from sense roms my two favorites are MIUI and Cyanogen 7
Alright guys I feel like I've flashed like ten different senseless roms by now with no dice... I'm looking for a Rom that has the gingerbread look and feel of OMFGB, salvage mod, or cm 7 but that still incorporates sense features. The sense features I really want are the contact list with Facebook sync and the camera apk..... with the sense camera a user can tap the screen where they want it to focus.... this is a big deal to me and all gingerbread roms so far can't do these things.... the closest thing I've found to my liking is skyraider Athena but unfortunately Athena is froyo...... I want gingerbread. Any help?
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Check out Skyraider 4.0 - It has everything your are wanting
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Check out Skyraider 4.0 - It has everything your are wanting
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I agree, if you're still wanting sense but with a couple cm7 features then skyraider fits the bill.
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The above statements are factual.... Skyraider 4.0 is the way to go
Alright....so Skyraider is a bit too sense-y for my liking....I didn't want full sense but rather sense apps....BUT I actually forgot posted this thread til just now and hadn't seen any replys..I actually ended up flashing Skyraider 4.0 before I even saw recommendations....let me just say this is the best Rom in the world. I didn't like sense because it was laggy but the way that sense is incorporated in this build is beautiful. I flashed chads 12/23 kernel on it and the combination is awesome...and it runs seamlessly while underclocked to 844! Plus my battery life is just beautiful compared to other roms....and no overheating problems! I have found my phones god send lol.thank you guys for the help and to anyone reading this thread that hasn't tried SR 4.0 I really recommend you give it a shot. Thanks guys
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Not sure if you have tried it yet but you might want to check out Lou's #8 kernel for your SkyRaider. I had really good results using it, but you millage may vary.
Lous kernels confuse me....I don't understand all the multi touch hocus pocus
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Multitouch is just the ability for the phone to recognize 3-10 separate touch points simultaneously. Only use I know of is for gaming with emulators where you have your controls on screen.
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Its older but a good senseless rom is skyraider athena. Get it on rom manager.
Edit: I'm dumb.
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I'm looking to get a custom sense launcher on cm7. I don't have time to port it or see how possible it it. I don't want a theme for lpp. I want the sense launcher. Here is a thread on the one I want.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1148978
If its not possible ok, but ppl on a sense Rom test it too please. I think it will work for you. But I would love to have this with a cm7 Rom.
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This would be an interesting mod indeed. Also the linked thread is pretty neat what he managed to do. I think something to that effect would have to be done to make this work.
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this wouldnt work the frame work on sense is completely different than aosp roms and cm7. you could install a theme to make it look like sense such as launcher 7 and fancy widgets, but simply taking the sense launcher apk and installing it on cm7 will not work.
The kernel needs to be configured for sense...hence why there are kernels marked aosp only and sense only. Though, if I'm not mistaken, aosp can work with a sense kernel under certain conditions. Also, apparently other sense devices have roms which are true sense roms merged with aosp to offer all the customization while maintaining the sense experience. It should be only a matter of time before we get one of those.
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The kernel needs to be configured for sense...hence why there are kernels marked aosp only and sense only. Though, if I'm not mistaken, aosp can work with a sense kernel under certain conditions. Also, apparently other sense devices have roms which are true sense roms merged with aosp to offer all the customization while maintaining the sense experience. It should be only a matter of time before we get one of those.
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Ok and yea I don't want a theme. If this works on sense ill use sense
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Has anyone tried it on Stock or Rooted Sense!??
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Seems dumb to me if you want sense use sense the whole point of aosp is the vanilla ui
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Seems dumb to me if you want sense use sense the whole point of aosp is the vanilla ui
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I said if it works on sense I would use it. So how about test it and not call it a dumb idea.
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My bad I didn't see the link that would be nice to port over .
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I loved miui. The speed, the look, the feel. But i hate the audio issues. The Mic would often not work and the music also didn't work sometimes. Also every other camera besides the sense camera sucks. Basically i use my phone to take pictures, listen to music and make phonecalls. Since I could not do any of those things perfectly I had no choice but to switch to sense 3.0 BAMF . No camera can compare to the speed and quality of the sense camera. Plus the video works perfectly. And there was no stupid half green preveiw after you take a picture. The music works perfectly. With dolby srs. And so does the Mic. The only thing that sucks is how slow sense is. If quadrant is any factor- 2565 in sense 4190 in miui. But with everything working in sense you really can't compare the two.
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And battery life is better in sense
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quadrant means next to nothing. Personally I am running gingerbang sense and it seems quite fast. Not aosp fast but obviously no sense rom is as lightweight as an aosp rom. Check out gingerbang though its definately my favorite sense rom right now.
edit: by the way the title of this thread made me smile, I thought maybe you were looking for some support because your girl dumped you lol
Up the picture quality to 8mb and the half green preview disappears.
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I agree Miui is awesome but that damn audio issue is killing me. No matter what kernel I try it still sucks...I feel your pain...;-(
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quadrant means next to nothing. Personally I am running gingerbang sense and it seems quite fast. Not aosp fast but obviously no sense rom is as lightweight as an aosp rom. Check out gingerbang though its definately my favorite sense rom right now.
edit: by the way the title of this thread made me smile, I thought maybe you were looking for some support because your girl dumped you lol
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I'm loving this Rom. Thank you.
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I loved miui. The speed, the look, the feel. But i hate the audio issues. The Mic would often not work and the music also didn't work sometimes. Also every other camera besides the sense camera sucks. Basically i use my phone to take pictures, listen to music and make phonecalls. Since I could not do any of those things perfectly I had no choice but to switch to sense 3.0 BAMF . No camera can compare to the speed and quality of the sense camera. Plus the video works perfectly. And there was no stupid half green preveiw after you take a picture. The music works perfectly. With dolby srs. And so does the Mic. The only thing that sucks is how slow sense is. If quadrant is any factor- 2565 in sense 4190 in miui. But with everything working in sense you really can't compare the two.
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Lol. Love your header.
Sense speeds up if you turn off animations. Try it. You may be surprised.
I love AOSP - but on the original Incredible. This phone can handle Sense well.
And Quadrant means poo. My tablet scores a 6800 on Antuntu - who cares. lol.
I have seen videos on YouTube with JB.but I have yet to see a video using sense.launcher with it as smooth as pax launcher was even before JB,so anyone who has update is it butter smooth with sense
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo4E4saUQ_I&feature=youtube_gdata_player
If you look at this video pax us so smooth
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Also love how pax has short cuts on main screen to other screens wish sense did this
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Apex launcher is extremely smooth indeed. Phone gets laggy if you don't restart it every few days, apparently.
For me, Sense launcher is amazingly smooth on ICS and will be even better on JB.
I use ARHD 16.0 and its sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much better than ICS or even the stock ROM of SGS3 (also JB)
It works so much better than AOSP (Clean/CM/AOKP/PA), and I've tried lots of them.
If you can upgrade to JB, you really should.