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First time flashing rom, used cyanogen7 very happy

Switch to cyanogen7 rom. Like it alot, one question thou, is there any way to get a better camera like stock one? If not no biggie.
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If you mean the sense stock camera then no its not possible. You could try one of the cameras in the android market though, Vignette being my favorite. Its a great camera replacement with so many features, I find it to be way better than cm7 stock camera. (It's a paid app btw) Good luck!
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Yeah I just got that paid app, I'm likeing it alot thanks
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Vignette is good. Camera Zoom FX is pretty good too, although I like Vignette better. What don't you like about the stock camera? It seems to work fine. I liked the sense camera the best, but, of course, not running sense now.

[Q] Which ROM?

Alright guys I feel like I've flashed like ten different senseless roms by now with no dice... I'm looking for a Rom that has the gingerbread look and feel of OMFGB, salvage mod, or cm 7 but that still incorporates sense features. The sense features I really want are the contact list with Facebook sync and the camera apk..... with the sense camera a user can tap the screen where they want it to focus.... this is a big deal to me and all gingerbread roms so far can't do these things.... the closest thing I've found to my liking is skyraider Athena but unfortunately Athena is froyo...... I want gingerbread. Any help?
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Check out Skyraider 4.0 - It has everything your are wanting

patsfan1130 said:
Check out Skyraider 4.0 - It has everything your are wanting
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I agree, if you're still wanting sense but with a couple cm7 features then skyraider fits the bill.
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The above statements are factual.... Skyraider 4.0 is the way to go

Alright....so Skyraider is a bit too sense-y for my liking....I didn't want full sense but rather sense apps....BUT I actually forgot posted this thread til just now and hadn't seen any replys..I actually ended up flashing Skyraider 4.0 before I even saw recommendations....let me just say this is the best Rom in the world. I didn't like sense because it was laggy but the way that sense is incorporated in this build is beautiful. I flashed chads 12/23 kernel on it and the combination is awesome...and it runs seamlessly while underclocked to 844! Plus my battery life is just beautiful compared to other roms....and no overheating problems! I have found my phones god send lol.thank you guys for the help and to anyone reading this thread that hasn't tried SR 4.0 I really recommend you give it a shot. Thanks guys
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Not sure if you have tried it yet but you might want to check out Lou's #8 kernel for your SkyRaider. I had really good results using it, but you millage may vary.

Lous kernels confuse me....I don't understand all the multi touch hocus pocus
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Multitouch is just the ability for the phone to recognize 3-10 separate touch points simultaneously. Only use I know of is for gaming with emulators where you have your controls on screen.
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Its older but a good senseless rom is skyraider athena. Get it on rom manager.
Edit: I'm dumb.
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Recommend me a ROM

Having used Fresh 4.0.0.4 and CM7 in the past, I'm looking for a ROM with the following:
Stability - no random reboots, crashes, FCs
Speed - doesn't have to blow me away performance-wise but would be nice not to have lag when swiping between screens
Functionality - everything works, 4g, bluetooth, camera, etc
Good Camera/Camcorder - I'm sick of the crappy audio in the stock camcorder (AMR 8000Hz mono 12kbps) and I've used CM7 in the past with much better audio in the camcorder (AAC 16000Hz mono 96kbps)
Smart Dialer - Whenever I use an AOSP ROM I miss the Sense-based smart dialer way way way too much. The GO! launcher and other workarounds never suffice.
I'm open to any/all suggestions, TIA.

Tommy tomatoes classic rom. U won't be let down at all by it
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Classic v0.1.0
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29687441
Digitalkarmas v7.77
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29681441
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I asked about the audio on that thread and while it's still not clear I suspect that the stock camcorder is all they've got which means crappy audio.
And by crappy, I mean Nintendo-like quality of AMR 8000Hz mono 12kbps.
If you've never heard the EVO actually record good audio then do yourself a favor and download Tape-a-Talk and up the settings to max quality to see how good the EVO can record versus what we get in the stock camcorder.

I use Deck's CM7 ROM as my stable backup ROM. Everything just works! Battery life is excellent as well.

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I use Deck's CM7 ROM as my stable backup ROM. Everything just works! Battery life is excellent as well.
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I agree Decks is the most stable AOSP ROM.

sasquatchotragavaca said:
Digitalkarmas v7.77
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29681441
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Digitalkarmas v7.77 is my favorite of the GB roms. everything works and its quick and stable. Not sure about the audio issue, I dont record video with my evo much.
I'm running ParanoidAndroid for 3-4 days now and really happy with it - makes the phone into a tablet and its ICS. No 4g though, and probably a couple of other missing components because its ICS (they are all missing things.)

mikg or digitalkarma are both great
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I highly recommend Digitalkarmas v7.77. I will swear by that ROM

Thanks for the suggestions. I ended up going with Classic for now and using Igcamera instead of the stock camcorder. Gets me high-quality audio with my recordings and Classic looks like a perky little ROM. Only one random reboot so far but that was on force roam in a bad service area so I'm not blaming the ROM for that one.

The smart dialer feature was added to CM 7.2 and works pretty well. I missed the smart dialer when I started using Cyanogenmod and was glad to see it finally incorporated into 7.2.
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sasquatchotragavaca said:
Classic v0.1.0
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29687441
Digitalkarmas v7.77
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29681441
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+1
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I just had to stop in here and give my two sense. I was in love with Digital Karma's Jackpot Deluxe Rom, it was so sweet and one of the fastest I had ever came across
Good luck. Try them all out. I did, about 20 times.

MokeeShark is my favorite aosp rom
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you can use the link in my status for a good one. everything works, and Im about to adds speed tweaks, and if you want ill make the camera and camcorder better.

Close, there's really no point in these kind of threads, try some roms for yourself and see what you like.

HTC Sense vs. AOSP

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I think the only reason to use Sense is for the Rosie.

I like the keyboard. Widgets are cool. Sense camera app takes better pictures too.
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For the camera, I use Pro Paint Camera. It's a free app in the market and takes great pics
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I think the only reason to use Sense is for the Rosie.
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For some reason, with all the added bloat and all, the Sense 4 ROM namely UKB runs smoother than the AOSP ROMs in my opinion. The AOSP ROMs are smooth at the beginning, but they start getting sluggish soon. Sense 4 gets sluggish too, but I find it manageable. Plus it doesn't have a few bugs that annoy me on ICS ROMs.

In my opinion the Sense camera and the beautiful widgets are the only advantages.
AOSP is so much faster and more responsive...period. And many things about Sense are illogical and frustrating.
I guess you could say I like AOSP more because it makes more...sense

Sense is icky
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Sense is icky
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Except for sense 4

Sense vs AOSP is all about personal preference. The only way you'll figure out which you prefer is to try a couple of each and see what makes you happy.

AOSP. End of Discussion for me.

With how well designed ics and jb are sense just looks gaudy
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Aosp is way better. Sense IMHO is killing htc
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Weres MIUI in all this? It's pretty big
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Miui is aosp.
Sense - srz or gtfo
Aosp - aeros 05/30 cm9 kang ftw

Sense it just too frilly and too much eye candy for me. (Sense 3.5-). I love stock 4.x
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HTC Sense is good for camera. I found No autofocus without HTC sense.
Anybody know good ROM with autofocus without HTC sense .

A while ago, I would've said that Sense is more responsive in the keyboard department. But with the latest Sense ROMs I've used (UKB, IC Tazz, ArcticIcsed, EclipticSense, etc.), I find that the Sense ROMs don't feel as responsive as AOSP ROMs when the keyboard is concerned. Plus, Sense focuses too much on eye candy and is too flashy for me.
So the only benefit Sense has that's better than AOSP is the camera since the features and quality excels compared to AOSP.
If only HTC removed a lot of the bloat save for the essential ones and made the rest downloadable at the Play Store or HTC Hub.
But still, I think the devs are truly awesome for making the awesome ROMs I've tried and used.
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I think that sense 4 looks great. However it uses a lot of RAM, and can be slow on lower end devices.
But ICS/JB looks even better compaired to vanilla gingerbread. And its always very responsive (Even after it starts to slow down).
If the sense 3.6 ICS OTA can give me at least 250mb of RAM. Then ill go with that. (If the OTA can get 250mbs of RAM, I know that we could get 100% functional sense 4 that has at least 200mbs of RAM.)
Anything else ill use CM 10.
This is all depending on if we get ICS.
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I actually hated the stock rom with my Dinc2 and that was the only reason I rooted my phone and just not a fan of the sense roms. Since rooting my phone I have tried CM 7.2, CM 9, and I am currently using Paranoid Android 1.98. I liked ICS but after using the Hybrid JB I am hooked. Granted there are a few bugs with the JB but as far as looks and smoothness I just can't move away from it. I have yet to try a Miui rom...I hear they are great too.

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I think that sense 4 looks great. However it uses a lot of RAM, and can be slow on lower end devices.
But ICS/JB looks even better compaired to vanilla gingerbread. And its always very responsive (Even after it starts to slow down).
If the sense 3.6 ICS OTA can give me at least 250mb of RAM. Then ill go with that. (If the OTA can get 250mbs of RAM, I know that we could get 100% functional sense 4 that has at least 200mbs of RAM.)
Anything else ill use CM 10.
This is all depending on if we get ICS.
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I think this speaks for itself when it comes to sense4.
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Yeah, using RAM usage as a metric of system performance seems a tad naive. I experienced sluggishness on both Sense and AOSP even with loads of free RAM. On the other side, I also observe that while Sense 4 may use more RAM to keep all their fancy graphics/textures and stuff in memory, I also experienced a much more snappy response on Rosie. I do feel that Rosie is a far better launcher than the ones bundled with AOSP ROMs... After loading a lot of widgets, those launchers start to stutter a bit too often, but the stuttering is infrequent with Rosie. However, I am high on Sense4 of late and I am possibly a bit biased. But, isn't that expected in a thread asking a question of personal preference? As far as the standard bloat is concerned, as noted above I too manage to run the Sense 4 ROM with an average of 200-250 MB of free RAM. I do remember AOSP taking about as much. My only criticism of Sense 4 is the poor Email app, but that is readily rectified using the stock Email app from ICS. My gripe with AOSP is the lack of an inbuilt timer (I use it often), the lack of a FM app (I rarely use it but as a matter of principle, I frown upon Google and the whole AOSP front for not being able to make a working FM app... the one in CM7 is just way too buggy that and there isn't one useful app on the market either)...
I'll be back with more gripes later. Peace.

[Q] Best camera app other than stock?

I am running cm10 nightlies on my sgs3 and was wondering what app is a good replacement to aosp camera app? It doesn't take as good of photos as the touchwiz camera on stock, the light balance is too dark and flash gives it a weird hue. I love cm10 but need a better camera app and from what I gather, touchwiz camera apk only works with touchwiz ROMs. Suggestions?
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ccole22653 said:
I am running cm10 nightlies on my sgs3 and was wondering what app is a good replacement to aosp camera app? It doesn't take as good of photos as the touchwiz camera on stock, the light balance is too dark and flash gives it a weird hue. I love cm10 but need a better camera app and from what I gather, touchwiz camera apk only works with touchwiz ROMs. Suggestions?
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Yes, the AOSP camera sucks big time and the interface is super, extra, ugly and outdated.
you can try lgcamera

eortizr said:
Yes, the AOSP camera sucks big time and the interface is super, extra, ugly and outdated.
you can try lgcamera
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For the majority of people, myself included, the stock Camera is just fine for PointAndShoot. I've even purchased CameraZoom when it was on sale, but prefer the simplicity of the default camera. "Best Shot", "Smile Shot", and the other TouchWiz gimmicks are almost never used.

Well I actually don't use any of the gimmick features of the stock touch with camera app, the thing that I liked about it was how it handled low light situations and getting the true color. I will try LG camera.
* I also purchased camera zoom on sale and am currently trying it out.
Any more suggestions? I don't need gimmicks and I don't need photo editing, I just need a very good basic photo taking ability
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ccole22653 said:
I am running cm10 nightlies on my sgs3 and was wondering what app is a good replacement to aosp camera app? It doesn't take as good of photos as the touchwiz camera on stock, the light balance is too dark and flash gives it a weird hue. I love cm10 but need a better camera app and from what I gather, touchwiz camera apk only works with touchwiz ROMs. Suggestions?
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The best one I've used (and I've tried a bunch!) is the camera app that was included with the Serenity rom....which i think is just the ported Note II app. If you can get your hands on that, try it!

When I was on CM10 I used ProCapture. It lacks HDR which is a big deal for me, but it's pretty good apart from that. The TouchWiz camera is one of the main reasons I switched back.

i have cm10 and i use camera zoom fx it work just fine for me

Yeah...back to touchwiz myself... I am sorry but cyanogen mod just can't equal the picture quality of stock camera... I love aosp...but I have found a good compromise... use a touchwiz rom, use a good aosp launcher and keyboard, and messaging and gallery.... and you get to keep your good camera! Though on another note I am somewhat disappointed with the aosp keyboard now....the Swype is cool but just isn't add accurate as I would like... actual Swype I never have to correct... stock 4.2 keyboard is always getting my words wrong...
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eortizr said:
Yes, the AOSP camera sucks big time and the interface is super, extra, ugly and outdated.
you can try lgcamera
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wow.
I find the AOSP camera interface great.
are you suggesting the tw camera app is more modern and less ugly interface, because it doesnt look that way here.
For the past week I had aokp on my phone, I was trying to make it work, and had used the camera a dozen or so times to take photos of the weather. I was pretty happy with it initially.
But then yesterday the camera started crashing and not working, a reboot made it work for exactly one photo so not good enough, so I switched back to neatrom (TW). Now by comparison this camera seems a lot worse in functionality. Is probably 70% configurable options missing, seems slower, so the menu responds slower and the focus is pretty bad in comparison it takes a while to focus and then doesnt stay in focus. On top of this I see can only have limited shortcuts at once meaning all the options are never accessible at same time, have to choose which shortcuts. I think the s3 TW camera app is poor, and am currently looking for AOSP camera to put on TW (but seems noone has bothered except chaos?) but would AOSP camera app still be unstable on a TW rom.

I like camera JB+... It does have a similar UI to the aosp camera though (I think I'm one of the few people who love the aosp camera UI).
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