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HTC Desire overheating

My HTC Desire has a serious issue with battery life. Although I shut down most programs and connections, the battery lasts about 3 hours only. Also I have noticed that the phone gets quite hot on the back by the micro SD card. Do you think that my phone is faulty?
I posted the same question on,
http://www.htcdesireforum.com/htc-desire-troubleshooting/desire-overheating/
but not many inputs, does anyone else got the same issue?

mmmm 3 hours? i think its faultly.. my one last more or less a day with normal usage. gets warm when i use it a lot.

checkout the thread on excessive battery usage before you deem it as faulty.

ardsar said:
checkout the thread on excessive battery usage before you deem it as faulty.
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can you please point me to the right thread? thanks.

coolfx35 said:
can you please point me to the right thread? thanks.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=666404
There are many tips in this thread and how to identify which application is using the most battery, and which are causing the device not to sleep correctly. Its a long thread, but worth the read.

If it is only lasting three hours no matter what you do, and it's getting THAT hot, then yeah... I would say there is an issue. Maybe it is shorting out somewhere. I would take it back if I were you. It can have poor battery life under VERY heavy use, but that's still pretty extreme... and I have never seen my battery get above 39c.

I had this last night, but only while I was charging the phone. I pulled the battery & it was around the microSD that was hottest. Took it out & replaced n rebooted...haven't had any problems since.
Doub't the microSD caused the problem but might be worth a try. Either that or when I rebooted I didn't start the app that caused the overheating.
Does it overheat if you just do nothing with it when u reboot?

cbanbury said:
I had this last night, but only while I was charging the phone. I pulled the battery & it was around the microSD that was hottest. Took it out & replaced n rebooted...haven't had any problems since.
Doub't the microSD caused the problem but might be worth a try. Either that or when I rebooted I didn't start the app that caused the overheating.
Does it overheat if you just do nothing with it when u reboot?
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So far it doesn't happen, I will keep you guys posted.
thanks for the help.

Hot Battery
I received my HTC on Tues night and within half an hour the palm of my hand was burning inside and yet still not healed (Thurs AM). P10 of the safety guide says this is nonionizng radiation (sounds unhealthy). I believe that the aerial is just beside the SIM and card slot and holding this next to your palm is warned against in the manual. Bit strange since that is how you would hold a PDA. However, I informed my service provider (Three) and they said it must be a fault so are replacing (with new apparently). Slighlty concerning however I will reserve the option to refund until I see the new handset. I might add that I have HTC's XDA Guide for bus. and that battery also gets very hot, but not as quick! Why put an aerial next to a battery, the combination of the two, I beleive is casuing heat issues.

my phone gets extremely hot ! sometimes up to 56 degree C !! and suddenly it reboots!

StrongOneX said:
my phone gets extremely hot ! sometimes up to 56 degree C !! and suddenly it reboots!
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56c?! That's probably the highest I've heard of? What are you doing when it gets that hot, charging?
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GANJDROID said:
56c?! That's probably the highest I've heard of? What are you doing when it gets that hot, charging?
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My phone was charging, WiFi was ON and I was browsering the internet, then i watched a movie. suddenly it started to smell like pommes frites. The phone was lying on a sleeping bag ( which is air tight and works like a heat shield ) and seriously it almost went flame on! lol

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My phone was charging, WiFi was ON and I was browsering the internet, then i watched a movie. suddenly it started to smell like pommes frites. The phone was lying on a sleeping bag ( which is air tight and works like a heat shield ) and seriously it almost went flame on! lol
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I would seriously reconsider your usage when charging. The highest mine has gotten was 40c. Just take into account that the bottom of your screen will also get near that temp, so be very careful
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reached today 49,5 °C by simply navigating and charging via my car-charger at the same time... battery-status showed status "overheated"
is this normal?!
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b

berre said:
reached today 49,5 °C by simply navigating and charging via my car-charger at the same time... battery-status showed status "overheated"
is this normal?!
cheers
b
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Erm, no.
I'd consider mine overheated if it gets over 35c.

StrongOneX said:
my phone gets extremely hot ! sometimes up to 56 degree C !! and suddenly it reboots!
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Wow, thats hot. Farrr too hot

berre said:
reached today 49,5 °C by simply navigating and charging via my car-charger at the same time... battery-status showed status "overheated"
is this normal?!
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b
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highest I've seen is 38°C, I believe above 45 is extremely hot

I've had to send mine back to HTC for "stress testing" as mine can't even get past 33°C without going into a reboot loop . It gets that hot just with some light use of GPS + Maps or Mobile Internet + Browsing.
Hopefully they at least replace the MoBo or possibly even the whole phone doubtful though...

hehe, my active holder in the car is in such a place I aim the vent/blower at the back of the Desire. No overheating while navigating with the airco on!
But I guess having something this fast (1ghz) in such a small package which uses quite some power as well means it's going to be hot real fast.
Although I don't find the Desire -that- much warmer/hotter than some of the other phones I've owned.
I guess when your Desire gets really hot (over 40C-45C or something) you can always give HTC or the warranty service a call. Perhaps when some parts don't sit properly on the cpu (something like a cooling frame or whatever), temperatures will rise a lot. And might even cause the phone to reboot.

Hi, I had similar problems that is very evident when i started playing games. I sent back to HTC 3 times before they finally replaced my mobo. I suggest you guys do the same

[Q] Battery pull once a week?

I have been having some issues with my DHD of late (lag, repeating letters on the keyboard, dropping 3g etc) and called my carrier (TELUS) who told me that I had to pull the battery from the phone at least once a week as part of regular maintainance, BECAUSE it is running android.
I find this very hard to believe, and though I am a big believer of having to "power cycle" electronic devices every so often (I think the ones and zeros start having a party in the memory and need to be told to get out of the lounge and go back to work), trying to get that battery out of the case once a week is just a plain pain in the backside! It really doesn't take that long but it seems a bit of an overkill!
Has anyone else here been told that they have to pull the battery once a week as part of the regular 'maintainence' of their phone?
Next thing you know they will be telling me I have to factory reset the phone once every two weeks!

Never heard of this recommendation before. I try to do a battery cycle once a fortnight as well and power it off very occasionally for a few hours. But I don't take the battery out unless I have a stuff up in ROM. This seems really weird. Rebooting once a week is probably what they mean?

A regular reboot will have the same effect as pulling the battery, so you could just do that.
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Are you sure? Sometimes when I've been using it heavily for a while I disassemble the phone to let the battery cool off quicker. (Take out sim, SD, battery, doors.) Does my method help at all do you think?
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Well when my phone gets very hot (especially when it's in the phone cradle in my car on a sunny day), I just hold it in front of the air conditioner for sometime till it cools down. But this is due to external heat. During usage I don't think the phone will exceed any temperature limits and become dangerous. I think that disassembling the phone completely including SD card is overkill. It's not necessary to do that much. I do think that heat can degrade battery performance and cause it to discharge faster or expand in size, but I don't know the veracity of my information. Maybe someone with knowledge about batteries will see this and enlighten us. But the max I'd do if my phone becomes very hot is to just switch it off an let it cool for sometime. It cools pretty quickly when it's off. You don't need to disassemble it. Try that next time.
Regarding laggy performance of the phone and the suggested battery pull as regular maintenance, I don't see how removing and reinserting the battery is any different to just restarting the phone. I mean, you don't remove the battery on your laptop when Windows starts lagging on you right? You just restart the OS to flush RAM and other stuff. Removing the battery seems redundant and extra work.
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http://sixpacktech.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/techsupport.jpg

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very true.

Battery pulls are unheard of for android phones. Blackberrys yes androids no. Are you running a stock ROM?
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uros0104 said:
http://sixpacktech.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/techsupport.jpg
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LOL... if battery pulls were required then my phone must be in really bad shape since the only times I've pulled the battery in 18 months is if I flash something bad and my phone locks up during boot, which is very rare.
I think the comic you linked to says it all.

Phone lags, gets warm, drains battery.

Hey guys, my DHD hasn't been all good to me lately...
Whenever I turn on 3G network, the battery drains quick, and I mean quick. The phone gets all warm in the bottom, and it loses about 1% battery for each minute that goes by.
With WiFi turned on, that doesn't really happen, even though the battery drains quite fast.
For this reason, I need to keep 3G/WiFi off the whole day, except when I need to use it. Which means I can't get notified of new emails etc. Pretty annoying.
The other thing is the LAG. Normally the phone does not lag in the desktop interface and such, though sometimes it could get pretty laggy even there. But in games (e.g. Temple Run), it's almost impossible to play at times. Lag occurs even in the most basic games like Snake '97.
Apart from that, the volume button has fallen off, and the proximity sensor does not work. I've rooted my phone so there's no warranty.
Anybody who knows what this is all about? Appreciate all help here.
Desire HD running IceColdSandwich 7.2

sirstroto said:
Hey guys, my DHD hasn't been all good to me lately...
Whenever I turn on 3G network, the battery drains quick, and I mean quick. The phone gets all warm in the bottom, and it loses about 1% battery for each minute that goes by.
With WiFi turned on, that doesn't really happen, even though the battery drains quite fast.
For this reason, I need to keep 3G/WiFi off the whole day, except when I need to use it. Which means I can't get notified of new emails etc. Pretty annoying.
The other thing is the LAG. Normally the phone does not lag in the desktop interface and such, though sometimes it could get pretty laggy even there. But in games (e.g. Temple Run), it's almost impossible to play at times. Lag occurs even in the most basic games like Snake '97.
Apart from that, the volume button has fallen off, and the proximity sensor does not work. I've rooted my phone so there's no warranty.
Anybody who knows what this is all about? Appreciate all help here.
Desire HD running IceColdSandwich 7.2
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Its ROM and Kernel related mostly. Try reflashing. Try some other ROM like Dekky's MIUI and see if you still hv the problem.

Yes it's most likely an issue with your ROM and kernel. Do a full wipe and reflash again. Use the latest kernel that Lord Clockan has uploaded for IceColdSandwich. Are you using version 7.4 of the ROM?
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which radio u are using? when you say the drain is more with 3g on it can be that the radio isn´t much compatible to your network-region. different regions different radios are better than others

found.pra said:
Its ROM and Kernel related mostly. Try reflashing. Try some other ROM like Dekky's MIUI and see if you still hv the problem.
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I had the same problems with MIUI too...
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Yes it's most likely an issue with your ROM and kernel. Do a full wipe and reflash again. Use the latest kernel that Lord Clockan has uploaded for IceColdSandwich. Are you using version 7.4 of the ROM?
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Again, it's not the rom, since I experienced the same problems on MIUI.
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which radio u are using? when you say the drain is more with 3g on it can be that the radio isn´t much compatible to your network-region. different regions different radios are better than others
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Baseband version: 12.28b.60.140eU_26.03.02.26_M
I am situated in Iceland. Should I find another radio? Which one? Thought myself that it could be a radio problem...

I'd suggest first to take a look at the contact springs on the slide cover antennae. Clean them with alcohol and check if they firmly connect to the slide cover. (btw how many bars do you have when logged into a 3G network?), later i actually mounted small rubber strips under the springs to help the connection to be stable.
Regarding the proximity sensor, once stopped working for me at all. I bought a compressed air can and blew into the right hand corner of the metal mesh near the proximity sensor. It helped for a month. Permanent solution was to remove the phone from the metal case and clean with compressed air parts near the sensor. There was a lot of dust. Now works perfecly.
Lags- try different ROM, but this time copy the entire SD card content to the PC and format it.
Volume button- got one off ebay, had to replace as well

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I'd suggest first to take a look at the contact springs on the slide cover antennae. Clean them with alcohol and check if they firmly connect to the slide cover. (btw how many bars do you have when logged into a 3G network?), later i actually mounted small rubber strips under the springs to help the connection to be stable.
Regarding the proximity sensor, once stopped working for me at all. I bought a compressed air can and blew into the right hand corner of the metal mesh near the proximity sensor. It helped for a month. Permanent solution was to remove the phone from the metal case and clean with compressed air parts near the sensor. There was a lot of dust. Now works perfecly.
Lags- try different ROM, but this time copy the entire SD card content to the PC and format it.
Volume button- got one off ebay, had to replace as well
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Wow, thanks alot! I'll go through this during the weekend, when I get some spare time.

I just updated my radio to the latest (26.14) and it works perfectly! The DHD doesn't get overheated anymore, and I can finally use my phone with 3G on, without my battery dying directly.
I'll be ordering a volume rocker from amazon with tools to open my DHD. Will have a look at the proximity sensor when it arrives.
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Galaxy Nexus Powering Off

Hey guys, I have the problem indicated in the video below, where basically a sudden shock to the back of the phone near the camera can cause it to power down completely (happens wehn resting the phone on a table, in pocket etc).
I've found reports of other people having this problem but no solution. My question is does anyone with the Samsung extended battery (GSM/HSPA+ version btw) with battery door experience this problem as well? I'm wondering if the extra space (I'm assuming) will sort of buffer the area and alleviate the problem?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdTVYnCEb7Y

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Hey guys, I have the problem indicated in the video below, where basically a sudden shock to the back of the phone near the camera can cause it to power down completely (happens wehn resting the phone on a table, in pocket etc).
I've found reports of other people having this problem but no solution. My question is does anyone with the Samsung extended battery (GSM/HSPA+ version btw) with battery door experience this problem as well? I'm wondering if the extra space (I'm assuming) will sort of buffer the area and alleviate the problem?
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I've use both standard and official extended batteries. Never had this issue occur, then again, I usually don't go tapping the back of my phone often either. In fact, I'm usually quite gentle with multi-hundred dollar devices. Still, definitely looks like the battery / battery pins are loose. If it were my phone, I'd try being extra careful with it and seeing if a small piece of paper/cardboard/etc can be used to stabilize the battery connection. If not, and you have warranty/insurance I'd talk to warranty/insurance about repair/replacement. If you're extra handy you might try seeing if you can make the connection more stable yourself.

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I've use both standard and official extended batteries. Never had this issue occur, then again, I usually don't go tapping the back of my phone often either. In fact, I'm usually quite gentle with multi-hundred dollar devices. Still, definitely looks like the battery / battery pins are loose.
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Yeah I thought it was loose too. I tried chucking both the battery and the little plastic rectangle part with the contacts with a piece of paper and it still turned off in my pocket though :-(

checkmeout said:
Yeah I thought it was loose too. I tried chucking both the battery and the little plastic rectangle part with the contacts with a piece of paper and it still turned off in my pocket though :-(
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Just to add a bit, I tried reproducing this issue (still gently), and was unable to do so with either my standard or extended battery.

[Q] R800i Battery & heat issue

Hello,
I've browsed the xda forums and few others extensively for solution of my issue, though to no help at all.
For the starters some numbers and general info:
Phone: R800i Xperia Play, 2.6.32.9-DooMKernel, Xperia NXT v.1.3.
Only default stuff running in the background.
For testing and possible solution, apps I've installed:
Advanced Task Manager,
No-Frills CPU (min. 134 MHz, max 1.114 GHz, smartass, sio),
Battery Defender (Temp 32C, voltage: 3.0V, changed from 4.0V).
I always keep Data, WiFi, Bluetooth, GPS off, unless I need them. Brightness is about 30% most of the time, no auto-brightness control.
For solution purpose I've got manual network selection for 2G, usually it is 2G/3G auto search - never got issues with this.
I've got two batteries, stock one and a Tell Me one, both 1500 MAh, both never had any issues.
Today morning (7AM), as usual, I've disconnected fully charged phone from the charger. I haven't noticed a thing that could be off about the phone.
I've went to the work, and around 11 AM I've messaged a little, and then I've noticed a weird thing - phone was very hot and the battery info said that it is on around 30%. Of course, first I've tried was to reboot the device, and lower the maximum frequency of the CPU.
Unfortunately it wasn't a bug or a mistake - phone really had around 30% charge left. I've got a usb cable from a co-worker to keep the phone from dying.
In the meantime, I've tried resetting the phone to factory defaults, tried flight mode, setting everything to off - nothing helped. Also, what's more weird - phone was charging incredibly slow (that might be because of charging from PC USB) when turned off and it still was hot.
I've realized that phone is getting really hot only in one area - near top right corner (place where light sensor is), on the backside, after you extend the phone (there is a little screw there, under 'sticker').
After getting back to home, I've tried charging the first battery to 100% - it completed, using stock charger, but it took quite longer than expected. Discharging is quite fast - 1% per 4-5 minutes. In ~50 minutes I've got 90%. This gives roughly 7 hours of work on battery. In flight mode, with everything turned off, with CPU on 134 MHz.
On a second battery, which I have in right now, I am steadily progressing from 93% to the 0% at the speed of 1% per 3 minutes.
Phone is +2 years old, not on warranty.
Any advice could be really appreciated.

Is it a stock battery or an aftermarket? I had an aftermarket battery once. It had a similar response in my phone. Bought another battery. OEM and solved it.
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Maybe it's battery fault.
One of my battery did the same thing (it even got even bigger due gasses inside it). Replaced it and it's working fine.
If it happends on both batteries, maybe it's hatdware issue. In worste case, something inside phone is shortcutted and drainibg current, causing heating. Maybe opening phone and cleaning parts inside could help.
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Wouldn't hurt to open it up and using an eraser clean the battery contacts inside phone and on battery itself. Then use a can of compressed air to blast that bad boy.
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I've got two different batteries, stock one that came with phone, and a second aftermarket one, which was rarely used - only on long trips when I wanted to play. Both of them couldn't be damaged like that.
Phone never fell on the floor, is always in protective rubber-like 'case' and of course it never even touched water.
Right now heat is strong enough to be a bit painful if you slide the phone out and touch the light sensor area on the backside. I will try to get some torx screwdrivers and open up this part, but I doubt I will find anything. I was wondering if switching back to stock rom could help.
I'm really at loss here since I don't wanna buy new one, though they're cheap right now (about 150$ in my area with 24 month warranty, without any contract), since I've got some holiday plans and wanted to have some more funds. I can go by with the 4-5 hour discharge time if I have a cable on me since I'm working at the office with computers. I can always charge the phone, but knowing that usually I never even fell under 80% after 8 hours at work is kind of bothering.

Have you reformatted the phone via flashing a ftf file... see if that fixes the issue.

Maybe try to use it without battery. Connect charger, remove battery while still powered on, and wait 15minutes (as i recall, it will not turn off). If phone is still hot, then it's not battery related problem.
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Bakisha said:
Maybe try to use it without battery. Connect charger, remove battery while still powered on, and wait 15minutes (as i recall, it will not turn off). If phone is still hot, then it's not battery related problem.
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Actually I've tried this and I've got some results. Phone turns off when it stays this way in OS for a while, so I did that in Boot manager, which I thought won't be affected by OS itself, and I was right - phone stays on, with screen on. Unfortunately, it is very hot in the 'usual' place. So we can root out the possibility that this is a battery issue.I am not quite sure, but also this is certainly not antenna, since it is off in the boot manager, as well as WiFi, BT and GPS.
So could it be that the kernel itself, which must have some module responsible for power management, went crazy? That is just my wild (hopeful) guess, and I wish that flashing will help. Any ROMs that you can advice?

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Actually I've tried this and I've got some results. Phone turns off when it stays this way in OS for a while, so I did that in Boot manager, which I thought won't be affected by OS itself, and I was right - phone stays on, with screen on. Unfortunately, it is very hot in the 'usual' place. So we can root out the possibility that this is a battery issue.I am not quite sure, but also this is certainly not antenna, since it is off in the boot manager, as well as WiFi, BT and GPS.
So could it be that the kernel itself, which must have some module responsible for power management, went crazy? That is just my wild (hopeful) guess, and I wish that flashing will help. Any ROMs that you can advice?
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Well, to test if everything is working properly, flash stock firmware with flashtool (even kernel). Test all functions of phone with apps (wifi, BT, gps, 3g, flashlight, tear-front camera). If all works, maybe some chip is overheating.
In that case, if you don't know how to open phone, maybe it's best to take it to service.
If you do know how to open it, first start cleaning enterier. If that don't help, try to power it while dissasembled, and see what chip is overheating and google for it's model to see what it is.
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Bakisha said:
Well, to test if everything is working properly, flash stock firmware with flashtool (even kernel). Test all functions of phone with apps (wifi, BT, gps, 3g, flashlight, tear-front camera). If all works, maybe some chip is overheating.
In that case, if you don't know how to open phone, maybe it's best to take it to service.
If you do know how to open it, first start cleaning enterier. If that don't help, try to power it while dissasembled, and see what chip is overheating and google for it's model to see what it is.
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Thanks for advice. I will flash the phone completely to stock and test it. Actually, if it is turned off, it is not heating up but starts to when I try to charge the battery.
I'm working at IT company, but my knowledge ends at the desktop computers actually, certainly I am not into electronics - I can tell when capacitors on motherboard are starting to go bad, but that's it. Starting from laptops, some parts are to small and prone to damage to be just opening and looking around.
I suppose if the stock kernel won't help, I will seek assistance of some service since they always give some kind of warranty for repairs. Of course, I will keep this topic updated, since there might be same kind of lost soul with the same problem.

FouLu said:
Thanks for advice. I will flash the phone completely to stock and test it. Actually, if it is turned off, it is not heating up but starts to when I try to charge the battery.
I'm working at IT company, but my knowledge ends at the desktop computers actually, certainly I am not into electronics - I can tell when capacitors on motherboard are starting to go bad, but that's it. Starting from laptops, some parts are to small and prone to damage to be just opening and looking around.
I suppose if the stock kernel won't help, I will seek assistance of some service since they always give some kind of warranty for repairs. Of course, I will keep this topic updated, since there might be same kind of lost soul with the same problem.
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When you are on stock kernel, test offline charging too (phone turned off, but charging). So heating problem is only limited to battery-charging electronics-kernel).
Post your results when/if it's fixed, no matter what they are. Good luck

Bakisha said:
When you are on stock kernel, test offline charging too (phone turned off, but charging). So heating problem is only limited to battery-charging electronics-kernel).
Post your results when/if it's fixed, no matter what they are. Good luck
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Unfortunately, after flashing to stock R800i_4.0.2.A.0.79.ftf I still have this weird overheating issue and the battery is draining really fast. Seems like this is hardware problem, not a software one, since I tested it in many different ways to no help at all.
I will not let go off my XPlay, as I will visit service and try to repair The Best Gaming Phone to Date, though I will buy a new phone, which will be Xperia S, since I've got my eyes on it ever since I played on my friend's one - Final Fantasy 7 with OpenGL plugin in fpse looked really great, and the controls were fine for my tastes.
When I get the XPlay fixed, I will update this thread, since I like this phone and would like to have it back and running.
Thanks for all the help, I really appreciate it