[Q] Battery pull once a week? - Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have been having some issues with my DHD of late (lag, repeating letters on the keyboard, dropping 3g etc) and called my carrier (TELUS) who told me that I had to pull the battery from the phone at least once a week as part of regular maintainance, BECAUSE it is running android.
I find this very hard to believe, and though I am a big believer of having to "power cycle" electronic devices every so often (I think the ones and zeros start having a party in the memory and need to be told to get out of the lounge and go back to work), trying to get that battery out of the case once a week is just a plain pain in the backside! It really doesn't take that long but it seems a bit of an overkill!
Has anyone else here been told that they have to pull the battery once a week as part of the regular 'maintainence' of their phone?
Next thing you know they will be telling me I have to factory reset the phone once every two weeks!

Never heard of this recommendation before. I try to do a battery cycle once a fortnight as well and power it off very occasionally for a few hours. But I don't take the battery out unless I have a stuff up in ROM. This seems really weird. Rebooting once a week is probably what they mean?

A regular reboot will have the same effect as pulling the battery, so you could just do that.
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Are you sure? Sometimes when I've been using it heavily for a while I disassemble the phone to let the battery cool off quicker. (Take out sim, SD, battery, doors.) Does my method help at all do you think?
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Well when my phone gets very hot (especially when it's in the phone cradle in my car on a sunny day), I just hold it in front of the air conditioner for sometime till it cools down. But this is due to external heat. During usage I don't think the phone will exceed any temperature limits and become dangerous. I think that disassembling the phone completely including SD card is overkill. It's not necessary to do that much. I do think that heat can degrade battery performance and cause it to discharge faster or expand in size, but I don't know the veracity of my information. Maybe someone with knowledge about batteries will see this and enlighten us. But the max I'd do if my phone becomes very hot is to just switch it off an let it cool for sometime. It cools pretty quickly when it's off. You don't need to disassemble it. Try that next time.
Regarding laggy performance of the phone and the suggested battery pull as regular maintenance, I don't see how removing and reinserting the battery is any different to just restarting the phone. I mean, you don't remove the battery on your laptop when Windows starts lagging on you right? You just restart the OS to flush RAM and other stuff. Removing the battery seems redundant and extra work.
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very true.

Battery pulls are unheard of for android phones. Blackberrys yes androids no. Are you running a stock ROM?
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LOL... if battery pulls were required then my phone must be in really bad shape since the only times I've pulled the battery in 18 months is if I flash something bad and my phone locks up during boot, which is very rare.
I think the comic you linked to says it all.

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HTC Desire overheating

My HTC Desire has a serious issue with battery life. Although I shut down most programs and connections, the battery lasts about 3 hours only. Also I have noticed that the phone gets quite hot on the back by the micro SD card. Do you think that my phone is faulty?
I posted the same question on,
http://www.htcdesireforum.com/htc-desire-troubleshooting/desire-overheating/
but not many inputs, does anyone else got the same issue?
mmmm 3 hours? i think its faultly.. my one last more or less a day with normal usage. gets warm when i use it a lot.
checkout the thread on excessive battery usage before you deem it as faulty.
ardsar said:
checkout the thread on excessive battery usage before you deem it as faulty.
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can you please point me to the right thread? thanks.
coolfx35 said:
can you please point me to the right thread? thanks.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=666404
There are many tips in this thread and how to identify which application is using the most battery, and which are causing the device not to sleep correctly. Its a long thread, but worth the read.
If it is only lasting three hours no matter what you do, and it's getting THAT hot, then yeah... I would say there is an issue. Maybe it is shorting out somewhere. I would take it back if I were you. It can have poor battery life under VERY heavy use, but that's still pretty extreme... and I have never seen my battery get above 39c.
I had this last night, but only while I was charging the phone. I pulled the battery & it was around the microSD that was hottest. Took it out & replaced n rebooted...haven't had any problems since.
Doub't the microSD caused the problem but might be worth a try. Either that or when I rebooted I didn't start the app that caused the overheating.
Does it overheat if you just do nothing with it when u reboot?
cbanbury said:
I had this last night, but only while I was charging the phone. I pulled the battery & it was around the microSD that was hottest. Took it out & replaced n rebooted...haven't had any problems since.
Doub't the microSD caused the problem but might be worth a try. Either that or when I rebooted I didn't start the app that caused the overheating.
Does it overheat if you just do nothing with it when u reboot?
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So far it doesn't happen, I will keep you guys posted.
thanks for the help.
Hot Battery
I received my HTC on Tues night and within half an hour the palm of my hand was burning inside and yet still not healed (Thurs AM). P10 of the safety guide says this is nonionizng radiation (sounds unhealthy). I believe that the aerial is just beside the SIM and card slot and holding this next to your palm is warned against in the manual. Bit strange since that is how you would hold a PDA. However, I informed my service provider (Three) and they said it must be a fault so are replacing (with new apparently). Slighlty concerning however I will reserve the option to refund until I see the new handset. I might add that I have HTC's XDA Guide for bus. and that battery also gets very hot, but not as quick! Why put an aerial next to a battery, the combination of the two, I beleive is casuing heat issues.
my phone gets extremely hot ! sometimes up to 56 degree C !! and suddenly it reboots!
StrongOneX said:
my phone gets extremely hot ! sometimes up to 56 degree C !! and suddenly it reboots!
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56c?! That's probably the highest I've heard of? What are you doing when it gets that hot, charging?
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GANJDROID said:
56c?! That's probably the highest I've heard of? What are you doing when it gets that hot, charging?
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My phone was charging, WiFi was ON and I was browsering the internet, then i watched a movie. suddenly it started to smell like pommes frites. The phone was lying on a sleeping bag ( which is air tight and works like a heat shield ) and seriously it almost went flame on! lol
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My phone was charging, WiFi was ON and I was browsering the internet, then i watched a movie. suddenly it started to smell like pommes frites. The phone was lying on a sleeping bag ( which is air tight and works like a heat shield ) and seriously it almost went flame on! lol
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I would seriously reconsider your usage when charging. The highest mine has gotten was 40c. Just take into account that the bottom of your screen will also get near that temp, so be very careful
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reached today 49,5 °C by simply navigating and charging via my car-charger at the same time... battery-status showed status "overheated"
is this normal?!
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b
berre said:
reached today 49,5 °C by simply navigating and charging via my car-charger at the same time... battery-status showed status "overheated"
is this normal?!
cheers
b
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Erm, no.
I'd consider mine overheated if it gets over 35c.
StrongOneX said:
my phone gets extremely hot ! sometimes up to 56 degree C !! and suddenly it reboots!
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Wow, thats hot. Farrr too hot
berre said:
reached today 49,5 °C by simply navigating and charging via my car-charger at the same time... battery-status showed status "overheated"
is this normal?!
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b
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highest I've seen is 38°C, I believe above 45 is extremely hot
I've had to send mine back to HTC for "stress testing" as mine can't even get past 33°C without going into a reboot loop . It gets that hot just with some light use of GPS + Maps or Mobile Internet + Browsing.
Hopefully they at least replace the MoBo or possibly even the whole phone doubtful though...
hehe, my active holder in the car is in such a place I aim the vent/blower at the back of the Desire. No overheating while navigating with the airco on!
But I guess having something this fast (1ghz) in such a small package which uses quite some power as well means it's going to be hot real fast.
Although I don't find the Desire -that- much warmer/hotter than some of the other phones I've owned.
I guess when your Desire gets really hot (over 40C-45C or something) you can always give HTC or the warranty service a call. Perhaps when some parts don't sit properly on the cpu (something like a cooling frame or whatever), temperatures will rise a lot. And might even cause the phone to reboot.
Hi, I had similar problems that is very evident when i started playing games. I sent back to HTC 3 times before they finally replaced my mobo. I suggest you guys do the same

Overheating, random reboots.. out of warrenty

Hi, I have a HTC desire, its nice but it gets hot latley when playing games like angry birds for a bit when the battery drops to 20% or so, and I plug in in.. it starts doing reboot cycle.. I think it only happens until the phone cools down.
I know the only real fix for this is a new mainboard, but I am not under warrenty..
any suggestions on how to live with it, or work with it.. someone told me a bad sim card or sd card might do this to the phone... I have already put 2.3 on it and factory reset and such...
thanks
How old is it? In the eu the warranty is 2 years.
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Wow, good to see im not the only one. I have the same problems, and depending on the rom they get worse or better. im running CM7 now and i have little problems, but when i was running the ICS beta it happend a lot, both on and of the charger and in my pants pocket or out.
If its overheated and i take out the battery i can smell a sort of molten plastic / overheated electronics smell.
for me it was the same - main problem is motherboard.
in the end service center exchanged for me motherboard and now this problem is gone.
but before this exchange i did following:
* decreased max cpu speed to 576-768MHz (via SetCPU)
* in one of old kernels I was able to manipulate with CPU voltage level, so i was decreasing it for all freq. which was used by me.
* charging only via PC usb ports - when it was able to be fully charged and not overheat
but the proper way would be only to bring your device into service center...
I would also suggest decreasing the max speed
might be that sleep mode doesn't work entirely as it should in some roms, not making the CPU frequency drop enough when the screen is off.
And your device might be getting old and wear is starting to show.
If it's actually damaged, replacing parts may be the only solution
This is a known problem for the first devices. The solution is to change the motherboard, of course at the service center.
mephoneisjunk said:
Hi, I have a HTC desire, its nice but it gets hot latley when playing games like angry birds for a bit when the battery drops to 20% or so, and I plug in in.. it starts doing reboot cycle.. I think it only happens until the phone cools down.
I know the only real fix for this is a new mainboard, but I am not under warrenty..
any suggestions on how to live with it, or work with it.. someone told me a bad sim card or sd card might do this to the phone... I have already put 2.3 on it and factory reset and such...
thanks
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You need to pick a good firmware I worth Runnymede AIO V 5.0.1 Special Edition-> Base Runnymede 1.22.461.2 Official Sensation sense 3.5 Android 2.3.5 [CM7/r2] [STOCK] [AD2SDX] [A2SD] [BEATS] [RCTWEAKS] [Aroma Touch Installer]
no problems found! the same problems arise Earlier.
How did you void your warranty? Rooting or installing custom does not void hardware warranty. At least I got my pvt1 motherboard replaced even when I had rooted and used superglue to fix some broken plastic under back cover.
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Ya, the phone is just out of warrenty, it really is only 1 year in Canada.. no ifs ands or butts...
But the phone only seems to do the reboot loop when I play angry birds when the battery is low and or when I play angry birds when the phone is charging ..
I think it happend once in google street view...
in other words intense apps... that make the phone warm up and then the sensor tells the phone to restart to protect the processor from overheating, but when the phone reboots the thing is still hot so it keeps rebooting.. only solution is to take the phone battery out and let it cool..
I guess this problem could get worse but it doesn't happen with normal web browsing at this point. I might have to live with it until I find someone to replace the mainboard cheaper than HTC wants.. otherwise not worth it.
I guess lowering the CPU max might be great so it doesn't overheat in the 1st place, I will try that.
I don't really understand rom, I have 2.3 gingerbread, is there something else I can change to perhaps get a better radio signal on this puppy ?
THanks GUys
I have this problem, although until recently it only when trying to use it as satnav.
I'm glad to hear it's a known problem though.
I contacted my provider and they said perhaps the battery is getting tired and causing it to reboot due to lack of power. I pointed out that it was the other components near the sim & sd card slots that were getting hot, not the battery, so they sent me another one. I did buy another battery too and that has made no difference either. As soon as I rooted the replacement phone it started getting warm too. I'm also pretty sure that the "replacement" was a refurbed one, since the optical joystick doesn't always respond and when typing msgs sometimes the vibe feedback stops working mid-word.
It's very frustrating not being able to use it for navigation any more (although it works happily with My Tracks for recording routes).
However since I've rooted it, I don't think I'd get away with requesting another replacement phone. I've tried installing other rom's that might run cooler, but when I do they always lock at the HTC splashscreen and I have to restore nandroid backup.
Hello,
i'm new to XDA developers. Should i buy this phone? I'm thinking about it these days but i'm not sure if it is worth. Thanks for your answers.
The same Problem on my Phone! While charging i can not use my Phone.
My solution: Don't touch while charging. :-(
I think I have same problem...my Desire in regular use get worm at 35% and at 38% burns my hand...and what is wors,for 15/20 min. regular use(not havy or gaming) temp. rise from 28% to 37% but something confuse me...last night I play 3d games for an 1 hour and at 20 min. I put it on charger and continue to play games and 40 min. later temp. is 40% and stil no reboot but butom side of phone(not battery...front side (buttons and screen) and back side) is so hot that I can burn my hand on it. I put statistic that battery indicator show(time,%,temp.). So is it like that to you guys? Is your phone have that heat thing for 15 min. of regular use?
Its pic of last night 3D gaming and its all statistic of temp./ % / time...
setCPU sorted this issue for me
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setCPU sorted this issue for me
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Ok, sounds promising. Can you elaborate on that a little bit please? What settings did you use etc?
Ahhhhh.... My gf phone having this issue.. and i think the problem is the sdcard, class 2 and use it for a2sd..
But, i tried to unroot the problems still happen, even without sdcard, the best way for me is leave this phone.. :-(
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If still in warranty, call HTC.
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timwb said:
Ok, sounds promising. Can you elaborate on that a little bit please? What settings did you use etc?
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simply installed it, and it had it run at lowest speed on idle so it could remain cooler
(you can check the settings on it to see what it runs on idle and modify to your needs anyway)
I have similar problem like yours. I suspect the problem is come from SIM because there is no this kind issue happened IF turn to flight mode or tool out the SIM.
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Hot swapping batteries

I noticed that the GN works with the charger plugged in and the battery out, unlike other Androids I've owned. The OS freezes after anywhere from 1-60 seconds, but it does work. So then after another reboot I tried plugging in the charger and quickly replacing the 54% charged battery with a fully charged one. Took out the charger again - no freezes at all. But the battery meter still "remembers" the charge state of the old battery.
So is this behaviour by design - Google and Samsung decided it's time to let this happen? - or is it merely an oversight since it confuses the OS?
If I'm in a situation where I'd like to use this trick to hot swap a depleted battery without shutting down, would there be any potential harm? I'm guessing it could bork the battery calibration.
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It wouldn't effect Android, it would effect the battery itself. Battery calibration only happens on the battery itself, Android "battery calibration" that everyone talks about is just the battery stats page that tells you what apps are using what. The battery has a little chip on it that tells it when there isn't enough power/voltage to run.
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That's a good question. I rarely do this and I think because of clearing out the phone often while swapping software I don't get any potential side effects.
Read the user manual, it specifically states not to do this.
Like all things, no one can stop you from doing it, doesn't mean that it isn't a silly idea.
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Read the user manual, it specifically states not to do this.
Like all things, no one can stop you from doing it, doesn't mean that it isn't a silly idea.
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That leads me to a good question - where is the full user manual for the GSM version, not just the quick start guide? Google doesn't even have it available on their site. Nor does Samsung Canada.
But I did catch the language you were referring to: "Do not remove the battery before removing the
travel adapter. Doing this may cause damage to the device."
Heh okay, oops
I'd say it's a terrible idea to even try to do this.
If your device writes to the internal flash memory just when the power runs out you may end up with a broken file system or even damaged flash cells.
Don't do it.
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I'd say it's a terrible idea to even try to do this.
If your device writes to the internal flash memory just when the power runs out you may end up with a broken file system or even damaged flash cells.
Don't do it.
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But isn't that no worse than doing an occasionally necessary battery pull?
In any case I wasn't describing the power running out at all - this is changing batteries while the phone is on AC power. Laptops have been able to do this safely since forever... Old dumb phones were often able to do it too. This is my first Android on which this actually works - but, true, the manual does advise against.
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I guess I'm just going to avoid the unnecessary risk. I don't think a 3 minute restart is worth the inconvenience of replacing a phone. Or worse, it running buggy and not knowing why.
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Btw, I have a surge protector with battery back up (Tampa thunderstorms can be a *****) and usually run my laptop battery less. It's better for the battery life but if I didn't have the back up battery, it could cause some headaches if the power blacks out.
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Depends, I guess. If the phone has crashed and is in some endless loop doing nothing really, there should be no additional harm from the battery pull.
If only the UI froze but the "core" OS is still working in the background and updating the file system just in the moment you pull the battery .. well, that's really bad luck. :-/
Why don't we have external batteries like on cordless drills? Well Palm Pre and some others have it...
Probably a hack here somewhere to manually set the battery level and avoid that risk of getting a crucial customer call in that 3min reboot, no?
cmstlist said:
But isn't that no worse than doing an occasionally necessary battery pull?
In any case I wasn't describing the power running out at all - this is changing batteries while the phone is on AC power. Laptops have been able to do this safely since forever... Old dumb phones were often able to do it too. This is my first Android on which this actually works - but, true, the manual does advise against.
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You answered your question, the battery pull for the freezing is unavoidable. You need to pull the battery.
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[Q] [Help] Phone keeps rebooting, black holes in battery stats

My phone has, inconveniently, decided to start turning itself off. I take it out of my pocket, press screen on, and the phone boots fresh from the HTC logo.
Furthermore, when it finishes booting, it often incorrectly reports the battery (2% when it should be 50%). I tried looking at the battery usage (from default ICS settings) but was just presented with missing chunks in the graph.
I've been using Virtuous Quattro since it came out, and have been finding it stable. I've wiped all data and caches and reflashed, but the problem persists, so I don't think its the ROM.
I also checked the EMMC serial but its not the reportedly problematic one.
Since I now never know if my phone is even on, how much battery it has, or if I'm actually getting any calls since it probably won't ring if its not on, this is all extremely problematic and I would really appreciate any suggestions you can offer.
Cheers
It looks like system freeze and baterry leak. I have same problem on quattro RC3 (and from time to time on pre-RC4 "leak"), ie. 50% over night...
If you use power saving (auto data/wifi off, etc) then disable it.
Try also flashing RC4: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22020394&postcount=1617
or try another good working ICS ROM like Andromadus Audacity b1 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1349864
I don't think there is any other (than flashing) cure for your problem...
Cheers, I'll try that and cross my fingers. I tried another ROM before re-flashing Quatro, so I'd ruled ROM issues out when it also kept restarting, but I guess it may have just been unstable!
Also, this is a symptom of the battery failing. Our batteries might be getting to that point for heavy users.
The battery resistance increases at lower voltages within the normal operating range dramatically if enough lithium has plated from charge cycles/heat. So even tho the battery still has a sufficient voltage, it can't output enough current and the phone powers off. This might explain the low battery reading after reboot.
Luckily batteries are cheapish, if that is the problem.
Take your battery out and see if it bulges out slightly in the middle. That would confirm it.
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I was about to start a thread on the same thing!! Except I poured ice tea on my g2 yesterday. Everything seems fine... but it shuts off by itself in my pocket. Hasn't happened other than my pocket. Like 5-10 times today :-/
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Sounds fairly identical besides the iced tea. Thanks for the explanation, =JKT=
Its the battery. I had an identical back up. Popped it in, no reboots yet
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I had a similar thing on a number of ics roms. Try upping the min sleep frequency on the cpu by one 'notch'. I also had a reboot issue during wake and increased the min cpu by a couple steps. Seems to have solved the issue. For me anyway.
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Well, tried upping the min CPU, and got a new battery, problem persists.
Glad to see some success stories here, but please don't hold back if you have any further suggestions!
Maybe the points of contact from the phone to the battery are weak? I can't think of any other kind of explanation :S, this is a head-scratcher for me because i thought that everything you've done so far would have fixed the issue.

[Q] R800i Battery & heat issue

Hello,
I've browsed the xda forums and few others extensively for solution of my issue, though to no help at all.
For the starters some numbers and general info:
Phone: R800i Xperia Play, 2.6.32.9-DooMKernel, Xperia NXT v.1.3.
Only default stuff running in the background.
For testing and possible solution, apps I've installed:
Advanced Task Manager,
No-Frills CPU (min. 134 MHz, max 1.114 GHz, smartass, sio),
Battery Defender (Temp 32C, voltage: 3.0V, changed from 4.0V).
I always keep Data, WiFi, Bluetooth, GPS off, unless I need them. Brightness is about 30% most of the time, no auto-brightness control.
For solution purpose I've got manual network selection for 2G, usually it is 2G/3G auto search - never got issues with this.
I've got two batteries, stock one and a Tell Me one, both 1500 MAh, both never had any issues.
Today morning (7AM), as usual, I've disconnected fully charged phone from the charger. I haven't noticed a thing that could be off about the phone.
I've went to the work, and around 11 AM I've messaged a little, and then I've noticed a weird thing - phone was very hot and the battery info said that it is on around 30%. Of course, first I've tried was to reboot the device, and lower the maximum frequency of the CPU.
Unfortunately it wasn't a bug or a mistake - phone really had around 30% charge left. I've got a usb cable from a co-worker to keep the phone from dying.
In the meantime, I've tried resetting the phone to factory defaults, tried flight mode, setting everything to off - nothing helped. Also, what's more weird - phone was charging incredibly slow (that might be because of charging from PC USB) when turned off and it still was hot.
I've realized that phone is getting really hot only in one area - near top right corner (place where light sensor is), on the backside, after you extend the phone (there is a little screw there, under 'sticker').
After getting back to home, I've tried charging the first battery to 100% - it completed, using stock charger, but it took quite longer than expected. Discharging is quite fast - 1% per 4-5 minutes. In ~50 minutes I've got 90%. This gives roughly 7 hours of work on battery. In flight mode, with everything turned off, with CPU on 134 MHz.
On a second battery, which I have in right now, I am steadily progressing from 93% to the 0% at the speed of 1% per 3 minutes.
Phone is +2 years old, not on warranty.
Any advice could be really appreciated.
Is it a stock battery or an aftermarket? I had an aftermarket battery once. It had a similar response in my phone. Bought another battery. OEM and solved it.
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Maybe it's battery fault.
One of my battery did the same thing (it even got even bigger due gasses inside it). Replaced it and it's working fine.
If it happends on both batteries, maybe it's hatdware issue. In worste case, something inside phone is shortcutted and drainibg current, causing heating. Maybe opening phone and cleaning parts inside could help.
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Wouldn't hurt to open it up and using an eraser clean the battery contacts inside phone and on battery itself. Then use a can of compressed air to blast that bad boy.
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I've got two different batteries, stock one that came with phone, and a second aftermarket one, which was rarely used - only on long trips when I wanted to play. Both of them couldn't be damaged like that.
Phone never fell on the floor, is always in protective rubber-like 'case' and of course it never even touched water.
Right now heat is strong enough to be a bit painful if you slide the phone out and touch the light sensor area on the backside. I will try to get some torx screwdrivers and open up this part, but I doubt I will find anything. I was wondering if switching back to stock rom could help.
I'm really at loss here since I don't wanna buy new one, though they're cheap right now (about 150$ in my area with 24 month warranty, without any contract), since I've got some holiday plans and wanted to have some more funds. I can go by with the 4-5 hour discharge time if I have a cable on me since I'm working at the office with computers. I can always charge the phone, but knowing that usually I never even fell under 80% after 8 hours at work is kind of bothering.
Have you reformatted the phone via flashing a ftf file... see if that fixes the issue.
Maybe try to use it without battery. Connect charger, remove battery while still powered on, and wait 15minutes (as i recall, it will not turn off). If phone is still hot, then it's not battery related problem.
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Maybe try to use it without battery. Connect charger, remove battery while still powered on, and wait 15minutes (as i recall, it will not turn off). If phone is still hot, then it's not battery related problem.
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Actually I've tried this and I've got some results. Phone turns off when it stays this way in OS for a while, so I did that in Boot manager, which I thought won't be affected by OS itself, and I was right - phone stays on, with screen on. Unfortunately, it is very hot in the 'usual' place. So we can root out the possibility that this is a battery issue.I am not quite sure, but also this is certainly not antenna, since it is off in the boot manager, as well as WiFi, BT and GPS.
So could it be that the kernel itself, which must have some module responsible for power management, went crazy? That is just my wild (hopeful) guess, and I wish that flashing will help. Any ROMs that you can advice?
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Actually I've tried this and I've got some results. Phone turns off when it stays this way in OS for a while, so I did that in Boot manager, which I thought won't be affected by OS itself, and I was right - phone stays on, with screen on. Unfortunately, it is very hot in the 'usual' place. So we can root out the possibility that this is a battery issue.I am not quite sure, but also this is certainly not antenna, since it is off in the boot manager, as well as WiFi, BT and GPS.
So could it be that the kernel itself, which must have some module responsible for power management, went crazy? That is just my wild (hopeful) guess, and I wish that flashing will help. Any ROMs that you can advice?
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Well, to test if everything is working properly, flash stock firmware with flashtool (even kernel). Test all functions of phone with apps (wifi, BT, gps, 3g, flashlight, tear-front camera). If all works, maybe some chip is overheating.
In that case, if you don't know how to open phone, maybe it's best to take it to service.
If you do know how to open it, first start cleaning enterier. If that don't help, try to power it while dissasembled, and see what chip is overheating and google for it's model to see what it is.
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Bakisha said:
Well, to test if everything is working properly, flash stock firmware with flashtool (even kernel). Test all functions of phone with apps (wifi, BT, gps, 3g, flashlight, tear-front camera). If all works, maybe some chip is overheating.
In that case, if you don't know how to open phone, maybe it's best to take it to service.
If you do know how to open it, first start cleaning enterier. If that don't help, try to power it while dissasembled, and see what chip is overheating and google for it's model to see what it is.
Sent from my R800i using xda app-developers app
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Thanks for advice. I will flash the phone completely to stock and test it. Actually, if it is turned off, it is not heating up but starts to when I try to charge the battery.
I'm working at IT company, but my knowledge ends at the desktop computers actually, certainly I am not into electronics - I can tell when capacitors on motherboard are starting to go bad, but that's it. Starting from laptops, some parts are to small and prone to damage to be just opening and looking around.
I suppose if the stock kernel won't help, I will seek assistance of some service since they always give some kind of warranty for repairs. Of course, I will keep this topic updated, since there might be same kind of lost soul with the same problem.
FouLu said:
Thanks for advice. I will flash the phone completely to stock and test it. Actually, if it is turned off, it is not heating up but starts to when I try to charge the battery.
I'm working at IT company, but my knowledge ends at the desktop computers actually, certainly I am not into electronics - I can tell when capacitors on motherboard are starting to go bad, but that's it. Starting from laptops, some parts are to small and prone to damage to be just opening and looking around.
I suppose if the stock kernel won't help, I will seek assistance of some service since they always give some kind of warranty for repairs. Of course, I will keep this topic updated, since there might be same kind of lost soul with the same problem.
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When you are on stock kernel, test offline charging too (phone turned off, but charging). So heating problem is only limited to battery-charging electronics-kernel).
Post your results when/if it's fixed, no matter what they are. Good luck
Bakisha said:
When you are on stock kernel, test offline charging too (phone turned off, but charging). So heating problem is only limited to battery-charging electronics-kernel).
Post your results when/if it's fixed, no matter what they are. Good luck
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Unfortunately, after flashing to stock R800i_4.0.2.A.0.79.ftf I still have this weird overheating issue and the battery is draining really fast. Seems like this is hardware problem, not a software one, since I tested it in many different ways to no help at all.
I will not let go off my XPlay, as I will visit service and try to repair The Best Gaming Phone to Date, though I will buy a new phone, which will be Xperia S, since I've got my eyes on it ever since I played on my friend's one - Final Fantasy 7 with OpenGL plugin in fpse looked really great, and the controls were fine for my tastes.
When I get the XPlay fixed, I will update this thread, since I like this phone and would like to have it back and running.
Thanks for all the help, I really appreciate it

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