Is there a difference and if so, what is the difference?
each has changelogs afaik , im using aokp and love it. cant speak for cm yet and unless im mistaken arent they all kangs right now ?
Flash them both, and have a look. It takes all of 5 minutes to flash a ROM. I used the CM9 builds on my Desire, not much of the CM9 extras are working, I'm not sure if that's the same for the Prime.
AOKP has extensive working tweaks, that much I do know.
aokp
difference is its features. cm9 is still in the works so a lot of the options you find in CM7 devices arent present yet.
On zephiK's recommendation I installed AOKP and don't see myself changing. It's a solid ROM.
hondaboi20002 said:
Is there a difference and if so, what is the difference?
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There will be. There will be.
But for starters, AOPK is like Cyanogenmod, in the sense that both are based in AOSP. Neither are finished, at their current stages.
Im going from CM9 Kang to AOKP right now. CM9 was getting a little laggy for me (when moving around homescreens). And im sold by the AOKP tweaks
Reading the op of both rom threads can answer this
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Uhm okay I was going to post a topic similar to this but ill save some room on the forums by asking it here:
What is AOSP and AOKP? What do they mean and what are they? Which one is better and what are the differences? Is it a specific ROM or is it like a category?
azn android said:
Uhm okay I was going to post a topic similar to this but ill save some room on the forums by asking it here:
What is AOSP and AOKP? What do they mean and what are they? Which one is better and what are the differences? Is it a specific ROM or is it like a category?
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AOSP is Android Open Source Project, Android before manufacturers get their hands on it and install Sense or Touch Wiz. Essentially the Nexus Primes OS. AOKP is Android Open Kang Project a modified AOSP ROM made by Team Kang, with more bells and whistles than the stock Nexus ROM. Hope this helps.
azn android said:
Uhm okay I was going to post a topic similar to this but ill save some room on the forums by asking it here:
What is AOSP and AOKP? What do they mean and what are they? Which one is better and what are the differences? Is it a specific ROM or is it like a category?
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AOSP - Android Open Source Project. Simply put, this is Android straight from Google, with no modifications. This is what you have on your phone. All of the ROMs here are built on AOSP - most, like AOKP, add modifications, while some don't.
AOKP - Android Open Kang Project. A ROM by Romanbb and his friends, built on AOSP, that adds many modifications and tweaks that aim to improve the end-user experience.
Yes it does thank you! So basically AOSP and AOKP are categories of the type of ROM a ROM is? Are there any other projects or are these the only two ones? Which one offers more stability and fluidness in the OS?
azn android said:
Yes it does thank you! So basically AOSP and AOKP are categories of the type of ROM a ROM is? Are there any other projects or are these the only two ones? Which one offers more stability and fluidness in the OS?
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Almost.
AOSP is the version of Android that comes straight from Google. Manufacturers (such as Samsung, HTC, Motorola, etc) usually like to take AOSP ROMs and add their own modifications to it - and that's how we got Samsung's Touchwiz, HTC's Sense, Motorola's MotoBlur, etc.
However, Google partners up each year with a manufacturer to release a Nexus device. These devices are special in that they always come with AOSP, and because of that, they are always the first to receive updates to the Android OS, and are for the most part the devices with the most developer support on forums such as XDA.
AOKP isn't a type of ROM in itself - it is just a name given to a specific ROM. Like AOKP, you have for example CyanogenMod, which is yet a different ROM. Because we have a Nexus device, all of the ROMs you'll see in our development section are all built straight on AOSP. There are many ROMs out there, all unique in their own way, and the best way to find out which one is right for you is simply to try them all out. It may be scary at first, but after your 1st or 2nd flash, you'll become addicted for a few weeks
Thanks! Do you have a ROM that you recommend? Also, if all of the nexus ROM's are built off of AOSP, why is CM9 built off of Kang?
azn android said:
Thanks! Do you have a ROM that you recommend? Also, if all of the nexus ROM's are built off of AOSP, why is CM9 built off of Kang?
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It's not, where did you read that? CM9 will be built from the ground up using the AOSP released by Google back in November.
Kang are using the Cyanogen GitHub to compile a CM9 beta ROM, as as far as I know, CM haven't released any betas (do they even release beta ROMs?) As far as I know they just go for a final build which is as stable as stable can be, people can't wait for the final builds and build ROMs using their work so we can try them as they are developed by the CM team.
That's my understanding of it anyways.
Oh my bad. I jumped to conclusions when I read the title to this post haha.
azn android said:
Thanks! Do you have a ROM that you recommend? Also, if all of the nexus ROM's are built off of AOSP, why is CM9 built off of Kang?
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CM is not built off of Kang. Kang is simply a term used to denote a compiled build of a ROM by someone other than that ROM's team or "authorized dealer". For example, User A compiles CM, changed a few lines in the code, and then publishes it here as his own work. That is a kang, and its highly frowned upon.
The reason the CM thread is labeled a "kang" is because there are no official builds of CM9 coming straight from CM yet - they're just experimental builds as of now. The reason why its allowed, is because recognized members of the CM team are releasing them.
I unfortunately don't even have my Nexus yet, but its coming in two days and I'm getting my feet wet. However, from what I've been exposed to, one of the more popular combinations around here seem to be AOKP with Franco's kernel.
I strongly advise you not to flash anything yet, though. You seem motivated to be here, which is good - but you also seem to not know too much about the world of Android yet.
Please, take the time to read through the following links:
Basic Android Terminology
Galaxy Nexus Frequently Asked Questions
Different Guides and Tutorials for the Galaxy Nexus
After you've finished, you'll be a little more familiar with Android and how stuff works. If you have questions, I strongly advise you to search Google and XDA first - I can almost guarantee your question has already been answered before
If you searched, but couldn't find an answer, please post in the Q&A sub-forum - there are many members like myself who love to help new users who are willing to take the time to learn themselves, without expecting others to do their work for them.
Finally, as a general rule, don't post stuff in the development sub-forum that aren't specifically development related. Yes, if you'll go through them, you'll probably see a bunch of posts that aren't tied in directly to development - but two wrongs don't make a right if you have a question about a specific ROM, usually the answer is right in that ROM's thread - if it isn't, most ROMs have IRC chatrooms set up, and if they don't - consider making a thread in the Q&A sub-forum.
Hi All
Is it possible to create rom based on CM9 but with HTC Sense 4.0 ?
I'm impressed by Cyanogen performance but I love Sense too, partly becouse of it I had buy HOX...
If I'm right Sense is just a launcher plus widgets so why don't cook it with great CM9 base ?
Thanks for replies
not sure this is possible due to different source code
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If I'm right Sense is just a launcher plus widgets so why don't cook it with great CM9 base ?
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You are not right. Sense is not just launcher. Its integrated into the system.
And threads like these are many I believe.
And I doubt this would be allowed by HTC or licensing. Also it defeats the purpose of CM9.
Rather then this go the other way.
What do you like on CM9 thats purely on CM9? If its some widgets get someone to port them out if its not already done.
I think its possible like current miui bases they are based on sense this means sense framework is included and can run sense applications and with miui frameworks and other files status bar lock screen themes and others from miui.
jackolus said:
Hi All
Is it possible to create rom based on CM9 but with HTC Sense 4.0 ?
I'm impressed by Cyanogen performance but I love Sense too, partly becouse of it I had buy HOX...
If I'm right Sense is just a launcher plus widgets so why don't cook it with great CM9 base ?
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Awesome idea!
Toga! Toga!
so basically your asking for ICS "pure" with a sense launcher?
instead of the stock ICS with a sense launcher?
it would defeat the purpose of CM since the idea is a more "pure" google experience, adding a sense launcher effectively turns it into a sense rom and any benefit is then lost, we already have many of these roms available now.
It's a bit like saying can i have a fat free piece of cheesecake please im on a diet oooh and can have a gallon of ice cream to go with it.
I'm asking for ultra-performance sense rom.
All bases from HTC are slow and inperfect, CM9 with some linaro particles is just sick fast.
This all "purity" of CM is logical , why they should create own launcher - it require tons of logical and visual development (read. Money).
Sense is most advanced enviroment for android which HTC is creating for some 7years ? (including win-mo)
Why don't combine two best android experiances
CM performance and Sense visual quality.
I hope some dev will read this thread and when soon CM will out of nighty we can all enjoy best rom ever.
I have a major doubt about CM9 here. Why are there so many CM9's in the development section? When i had my nexus s there was only 1 cm9 thread started by the official maintainer of the device!
Furthermore which among the various CM threads is the actual one from the CM team with the official maintainer?
Or hasn't CM officially supported our device? I read that the SGS3 got official CM9 nightly builds.. Do we also have official nightly builds?
After using AOKP since its beginning i'm curious, I don't like sense, it's too bloated and slow/bugged.
BUT I read Team Venom has made an amazing work.
I'm missing this "original feeling" you have on an offical rom (like evrything is working as it should, not written for it to work somehow)
What would you say ? AOKP or Venom ?
Please, if you have tested both, try to give a pro/con's list, which I'm going to maintain the best I can
AOKP :
Pro's :
- Lord ClockaN
- Pure ICS/Google feeling
- Probably soon updated to JellyBean
- Fast, efficient
Con's :
- Mediocre camer software (IMO)
- Some things still not fully working (some isues with the touchscreen
Venom :
Pro's :
- Fully working, no custom drivers or fixings
- Based on Sense, so with HTC's blessing ^^
- Camera Software with Touchsense
Con's :
- Sense Bloat
- Sense Bloat
- No AOKP Settings
- Sense Bloat
I'd appreciate any info : batterstats, GPS fix time etc...
To be as impartial and informative as possible, I will only add information when I have it for both rom's Thanks !
I prefer tbalden's CM9. I have yet to try out the AOKP roms, but I do prefer the nonSensical nature of CM9.
You can't really compare AOSP and Sense. Both are completely different in each area.
Have you tried this > http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1589949
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You can't really compare AOSP and Sense. Both are completely different in each area.
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That's why I want to compare them, to find the best and worst in both worlds =)
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ferreinf said:
Have you tried this > http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1589949
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^^ Use this after installing ViperX to de-Sense it to your liking. You'll still get Venom Tweaks.
or
You could use a ROM like Renovate or Exodized Evolution which are based on HTC ROMs (2.05 base) but virtually de-Sensed and ICS-themed while keeping the good stuff like Camera, Dialer/Contacts, and Settings. On Exodized, you can even use ICS Settings app (which is buggier than stock Settings), ICS Dialer, Contacts and Calendar apps.
I have been a long time PA user but support for the T999 has disappeared. There is no stable version available.
The reason I use PA is because of per-app dpi switching. A few apps like browser, gmail, sms, I drop from 320 to 250 for more efficiency, which frankly is the only way to use it. Most others I leave as default of course. All I need is any decently supported ROM which has some sort of better DPI setting - what other ROM works somewhat like paranoidandroid in this regard?
Alternatively, can someone please upload a stable version of PA? I don't care what build, as long as it's JB. The last five million builds of PA for the T999 have been worse than beta - maybe one or two that generally have no hiccups for reliable use - where are these versions? Can we have consideration from developers, that we actually want to use the ROMs and not just watch betas of ports of betas being perpetually developed? Why keep moving to the next android version when there isn't a stable build of any existing one? Slow and steady wins the race.
Both Slim Bean and Liquidsmooth support switching. Pac Rom probably does but I did not try it.
PAC = PA +AOKP +CM
I know AOKP does too.
Hi,
Hope this is the right forum subsection to post...
Right now I'm on CM11 that I've just compiled and flashed on my GNex.
Before switching to 4.4 I ran Rasbeanjelly+Trinity. That Rom had in it's 4.2 relases (IIRC) a customization of buttons, fonts
colors, keyboard colors etc.
I'd like to try a customization of my CM11, and give it the same Rasbeanjelly blue (cyano?) theme.
So my noob question is: Where those customization have place? I suppose in the Kernel but I could be wrong.
Decompile and edit apks you want.
You might wanna wait for ParanoidAndroid to go out of beta, its HybridProperties is still under development (work on KitKat compatibility), but back in the days of JellyBean it was powerful enough to do all the features you mentioned, thus it got forked into many custom ROMs (maybe rasbeanjelly uses it also? I don't know).
Sent from Google Nexus 4 @ CM11