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Hi all.
Can anyone explain the advantages of the 3 modes listed? I currently use A2SD+.
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omfg this has been explained so many times, and each have a separate thread on here somewhere, so it should not be that hard to do some searching yourself.
But the latter too moves the data partition to the ext-partition or if you use some other filesystem, a2whatever can let you use that partition on the sd-card. This gives you the possibility to have almost unlimited space for data and apps, but the sd-card is quite a lot slower than the flash memory, so it is easy to see the slowdowns in everyday use if you ask me.
a2sd is when you only move /data/app and possibly /data/app-private to the ext-partition. This doesn't slow the system down as much as a2sd+ or d2sd, because all the important files are kept internally, whereas on a2sd+ dalvik cache is moved as well.
Ok, so maybe I should have been a bit more clear. I have read the threads and I understand the general principles. I was more interested in knowing the practical aspects. With A2SD + for instance of you don't format the extended partition you have all your applications there after installing the ROM. But you loose configuration. Do any of the others preserve all data and apps? As in, after an installation of a new ROM, all is ready to work?
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You would most likely get bootloops. When you flash a new rom, it is advisable to wipe everything. Each rom that has a2sd or what ever has different scripts.
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Meaple said:
You would most likely get bootloops. When you flash a new rom, it is advisable to wipe everything. Each rom that has a2sd or what ever has different scripts.
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Thanks. Based on this I think I'll be moving over to an a2sd rom soon.
Don't use a2sd+ , at least from my experience (at using and flashing all possible roms..Sense roms that is) D2SD (aka D2ext) is by far the best and most stable/fastest depending on your SD card It actually (kinda) adds the ext partition to your internal mem,so you don't have to have an app to check the status and info of your ext/a2sd parition
aca85 said:
Don't use a2sd+ , at least from my experience (at using and flashing all possible roms..Sense roms that is) D2SD (aka D2ext) is by far the best and most stable/fastest depending on your SD card It actually (kinda) adds the ext partition to your internal mem,so you don't have to have an app to check the status and info of your ext/a2sd parition
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Hummmm... sounds interesting.
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Currently running iNsertCoinHD Data++ and that's quite fantastic
Really smooth experience...
cgmorris89 said:
Currently running iNsertCoinHD Data++ and that's quite fantastic
Really smooth experience...
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But would you say it's faster than A2SD?
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Yeah I'd say so...can't be certain though, its all quite relative isn't it?
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I have tried both oxygen and cm7 aosp roms and after installing I am always left with around 50mb of internal memory, however when I install a sense rom like incertcoin I am left with well over 100mb despite those roms been much larger. Help!
Chilldesire said:
I have tried both oxygen and cm7 aosp roms and after installing I am always left with around 50mb of internal memory, however when I install a sense rom like incertcoin I am left with well over 100mb despite those roms been much larger. Help!
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Do the sense roms you are installing have a2sd or all that stuff enabled?
This may be the reason for seeing more "internal" memory.
I recommend aosp plus s-off and the correct hboot. This gives me close to 300mb free internal with all my apps installed to internal.
You have made partition on your memory card with in Sense 2.1 rom (like InsertCoin or RCMix S) so you have more memory
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Use a data2sd Rom like StarBurst and you can have as high as 2gb of internal memory
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My question essentially is Im curious just HOW MUCH usable INTERNAL MEMORY will you get in total if you root and install a custom rom with A2SD+ I saw and heard someone saying you can get 1gb internal memory for all of your apps? of course due to having partitioning your SD card, how many apps can you install and run ?
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My question essentially is Im curious just HOW MUCH usable INTERNAL MEMORY will you get in total if you root and install a custom rom with A2SD+ I saw and heard someone saying you can get 1gb internal memory for all of your apps? of course due to having partitioning your SD card, how many apps can you install and run ?
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105 with 20MB internal left, so I'd say it is about that. Stock hboot.
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105 with 20MB internal left, so I'd say it is about that. Stock hboot.
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Wow I'm seriously considering it! There isn't even 100 apps I'd want but the more memory the better woot!
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That doesn't mean you can go crazy on games and Google Earth either. I have 105 which are apps that are used to improve functionality, not for boasting.
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That doesn't mean you can go crazy on games and Google Earth either. I have 105 which are apps that are used to improve functionality, not for boasting.
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Thanks for the advice. I know what you mean I only get useful stuff. 100 apps to improve function?! Wow name a few and their use
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cha0seng said:
Thanks for the advice. I know what you mean I only get useful stuff. 100 apps to improve function?! Wow name a few and their use
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Droidzone on his Supernova ROM with my data2sd has installed over 450 and still has a lot of space left
Check it out
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whats the difference between data2sd and a2sd+ which one is best to allow you to have the most amount of internal memory to install apps possible? my friend has got a htc desire with a miui rom and has installed over 300 apps ? how? i wanna know which is the best way to get most amount of memory ?
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whats the difference between data2sd and a2sd+ which one is best to allow you to have the most amount of internal memory to install apps possible? my friend has got a htc desire with a miui rom and has installed over 300 apps ? how? i wanna know which is the best way to get most amount of memory ?
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With a2sd+ internal memory still decreases because not all app data is moved to sd-card, some ramains in the internal memory.
data2sd moves entire data folder to ext3/4 partition on sdcard so nothing in internal memory get decreased (maybe something related to dalvik cache?).
That partition can be very big (I have 512GB - not much but I'm too lazy to repartition/reinstall). I saw some users are having as big as 2GB. I guess it can go more.
I'm runnning droidzone's Supernova 2.0.2.0 and I'm having 150 apps there and still 40 MB of free space. ROM is stable, fast and comes with data2sd metioned above.
i really appreciate you clearing that up sounds great i was curious if you know or if anyone knows for that matter wether there is any sense 3.0 or sense 3.5 roms with the data 2 sd script in it ? if not what are the best data2sd running roms for the htc desire?
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i really appreciate you clearing that up sounds great i was curious if you know or if anyone knows for that matter wether there is any sense 3.0 or sense 3.5 roms with the data 2 sd script in it ? if not what are the best data2sd running roms for the htc desire?
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Cool3D AceS v3 has a data2ext version.
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data2sd is better imho. It is constantly being developed by Sibere here and still well supported. Not to mention it was first.
I am unsure why sibere's work gets so overlooked all the time.
Im using CM7.1 ROM and it supports A2SD. Partitioned my SD card thru recovery using clockwork and installed S2ext. Set one of the extesions to 512 mb. Already Installed 43 user apps and (126 apps including system apps), but still i have 111 mb free memory. A totally great boast to my Desire as compared before on a stock whereas doing a hard reset every two weeks due to low memory issues.
is data2ext the same as data2sd? and is there a clear step to step guide on how to get the Cool3D AceS v3 ?
rootSU - Tell me the reason WHY you say data2sd is best?
it depends from the size of the apps, if you have root, then try to put the dalvik cache to ext3, too
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and is there a clear step to step guide on how to get the Cool3D AceS v3 ?
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1st post from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1040121
Flash the data2ext hboot, then alignment, rom and weather pack.
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1st post from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1040121
Flash the data2ext hboot, then alignment, rom and weather pack.
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If I understood correctly I should first flash Data2ext Hboot and then Cool3D AceS v3 DATA2EXT or?
You got it right.
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djsynth said:
is data2ext the same as data2sd? and is there a clear step to step guide on how to get the Cool3D AceS v3 ?
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No, they are a bit different. Look at their core code to see the differences.
i use cm7 with dalvic cache on sd;
total apps installed: 234
and 42mb free
desire rooted with s-off,I have changed the rom on my desire several times I am now on Cynogen 7, can any one help, I have approx 9g of my sd free but am continually getting can't upload system full. If I wipe my system data and cache, will I still be able to install rom from my sd card. Or is there a better way to do it?
What HBOOT are you on? If you /system partition is full then use a hboot with a larger /system partition.
Cheers forthe reply. My hboot is 256 how can I enlarge it.
By going S-OFF and flashing a hboot which gives you more space on /data.
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desire rooted with s-off,I have changed the rom on my desire several times I am now on Cynogen 7, can any one help, I have approx 9g of my sd free but am continually getting can't upload system full. If I wipe my system data and cache, will I still be able to install rom from my sd card. Or is there a better way to do it?
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first of all - what exactly are you trying to do??
when do you get this error??
and - when you switch roms you should do complete wipe - system, data, cache, ext - i guess you know that already
but 9gb sd space has nothing to do with system partition
and what rom are you trying to install?
i dont think most roms give problem with stock hboot
Flash a different HBoot mate , use cm7r2
Or you could just try Supernova and get 2 GB free
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Or you could just try Supernova and get 2 GB free
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ha ha
Best option so far
Runnymede with Aroma intaller
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Runnymede with Aroma intaller
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?? Whats that got to do with memory?
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Maybe the OP wants to know how to set up a2sd?
1) Make an ext4 partition using gparted (and only gparted!)
2) Choose any of the a2sd scripts you like (use search to find them) and set them up according to the instructions in the corresponding thread
3) Enjoy plenty of space.
hi everyone, a friend of mine has a desire (stock rom) and always the problem that the internal capacity is full. now we are looming for a stable rom which basicly has sd card limit for apps and is not restricted to the intetnal one.
ive read quite a lot here and lokked at some roms and have some favorites, but i would like to get some input from actual desire users what rom they use and how the situation is with the app storage space.
so what rom do you use?
and hows the app storage situation with the rom?
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so what rom do you use?
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you're going to get confusing answers from this question in my opinion, though you could try here. if you want stability at the moment stick with GB roms.
best bet would be to browse through a few in the development section, see what your friend wants, rather than what other people tell you is the BEST ROM EVER
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and hows the app storage situation with the rom?
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virtually all of them will have raised the limit on app storage using various scripts, which is one of the main reasons of custom roms on desire in the first place
each rom will have their own requirements, but generally need an sd-ext partition (use 4ext recovery or gparted) and/or a hboot partition table.
i've always found this guide useful in understanding root/memory stuff.
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hi everyone, a friend of mine has a desire (stock rom) and always the problem that the internal capacity is full. now we are looming for a stable rom which basicly has sd card limit for apps and is not restricted to the intetnal one.
ive read quite a lot here and lokked at some roms and have some favorites, but i would like to get some input from actual desire users what rom they use and how the situation is with the app storage space.
so what rom do you use?
and hows the app storage situation with the rom?
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Supernova,by Droidzone, just do a 2gig ext4 partition and you will have 2gig of internal memory.
This Rom is base on stock 2.3 and is tweak for the better. Super smooth and your low memory days are over. Don' t take my word try it yourself
my HTC Desire runs actually BCM cyanogenmod9 with a data++ hboot
Anyway, you could get free space without changing rom and avoid using sd card ext (which might introduce some lags), by flashing the bravo Sense hboot (saving 70MB and keeping HTC Desire's stock rom).
That's my point, but it depends on your friend's rom preferences
thanks all for the feedback, actually i looked yesterday at some roms and supernova was one of the roms i considered since its aosp based, the other would be mildwild which is cm7 based, i guess i will just add my friend what suits her better and then go with that.
any bugs or other issues i should be aware with theae roms?
oh and i think the device has 5.11....radio i think. will that cause problems?
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I just converted to mildwild 4.1.9 and can vouch for it being very impressive. I have setcpu app on it and now have 75% battery at the end of the day. I have a 16GB SD card and loads of storage so far, but I must say I am more disciplined with what I install now, as I used to gum it up with anything and everything! Mine is a desire GSM btw.
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supernova was one of the roms i considered since its aosp based
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It's not AOSP. But Stock HTC Sense with scripts and some mods.
i noticed and im not to impressed by it but mildwild 5 got bootloops. gona try 4.9 or a pure cm rom in the coming days
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i noticed and im not to impressed by it but mildwild 5 got bootloops. gona try 4.9 or a pure cm rom in the coming days
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Oxygen rom is worth a look. AOSP rom that is closest to stock Gingerbread that you'll gonna get for desire. Just use the custom hboot for it found in http://alpharev.nl. (s-off required) and EXT partition on the sd card and it should give you one of the most stable rom with decent space for your apps.
check http://oxygen.im to get the rom.
iv been using mildwild oxygen the past week and got no complaints, i used runnymede aio as my "stock" rom and always went back to it lol but i honestly cant see myself going back this time
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thnaks a lot for the feedback,
we tried mildwild oxygene but after one day and 5 self reboots its clear this is not stable at all.
now i have an other question, i flashed cm 7.2 with full wipe but the device always booted/rebooted into recovery... what can be the cause of that? mithg we have some partitioning problem here?
or something else thats wrong?
i partitioned the sd card with the cwm (1gb ext, 32mb swap) that gets installed with rom manager (5.0.2 or so i think).
if this is the problem, would be awesome to get a link to what we need to make cm 7.2 work. thanks.
lol mildwild oxygen not stable? probably 1 of the top 3 most stable roms iv used. using it now, not 1 single problem.
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lol mildwild oxygen not stable? probably 1 of the top 3 most stable roms iv used. using it now, not 1 single problem.
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well thats nice for you, but my friend got lots of reboots so i dont consider this stable at all and we need to try somethig else.
i guess its like oc/uc nor everything works for every device.
that is nice for me. also could have something to do with that rom manager and partitioning ur sdcard with that crap cwm
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that is nice for me. also could have something to do with that rom manager and partitioning ur sdcard with that crap cwm
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maybe you could mention something better instead of just calling cwm crap?
well maybe if u wasnt so cheeky i would of. cwm is known to make bad partitions so maybe try 4ext recovery or gparted to partition. i use 1gb ext4 and rest fat32 (no swap) with mildwild oxygen and iv had no problems so maybe try 4ext recovery
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thanks for the information, i will check the partitions today with gparted and probably reformat. i created a 32m swap partition and i dont know if cwm created a ext3 or ext4 partition so that might be the problem...
i did not intend to be "cheeky" (and not sure if i understand it correctly, sometimes im getting a bit upset when people post something like: " it works for me." and do not think about adding some info what could be different:O
if ur gona use mildwild oxygen i dont think u will need a swap size when u partition sdcard, just do a 1gb ext4 or 1.5gb max and the rest fat32
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Hi
new ICS 4.0.4 by sandvold is very smooth and you can have alot of internal memory.
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you're going to get confusing answers from this question in my opinion, though you could try here. if you want stability at the moment stick with GB roms.
best bet would be to browse through a few in the development section, see what your friend wants, rather than what other people tell you is the BEST ROM EVER
virtually all of them will have raised the limit on app storage using various scripts, which is one of the main reasons of custom roms on desire in the first place
each rom will have their own requirements, but generally need an sd-ext partition (use 4ext recovery or gparted) and/or a hboot partition table.
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I am using MW based on Oxygen v4 with a SD-EXT partition of 1GB and set-up with APPS+DATA to SD-EXT. Don't think I am close to running out of space. I have 104 apps installed including the big ones like Google+/Skype/etc.
Check out this thread with practically links to every ROM available for desire. I usually scour this link to check for updates.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328
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