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Stock vs Overclocked

Is it worth rooting my phone and overclocking it?
Is overclocking it really noticable in performance to say approx 1.5GHz? And is it going to kill battery? Thanks
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Simmo3D said:
Is it worth rooting my phone and overclocking it?
Is overclocking it really noticable in performance to say approx 1.5GHz? And is it going to kill battery? Thanks
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Yes and Yes to both of your questions. There is a noticeable diffrence in performance when overclocking. But it will obviously use more battery

cant say ive noticed 1.5ghz killing my battery.. might be used a bit faster.. but u can easily offset this by lowering your clockspeed and voltage for your sleep state in addition to minimising the required voltage that 1.5ghz requires, id say my battery life is probably better overall, and i run 1.5ghz 24/7.
of course your mileage may vary depending on usage and various settings.

How hard is it to overclock it? My phone is rooted but I have no experience with overclocking.
I'm guessing it wouldn't be a wise idea?

Yeah this seems a little over my head.. thinking of buying another Xperia Play just to mod the crap out of.
Dont really wanna mess with the overlocking now I think about it incase I fry the chips and kill the phone.

At 1.4 and 1.5ghz its quite safe.
To chill out the battery put some screen off underclocking like at Real low with but not the least
1. 4 ghz scaling interactiveX I get 252/282 MS, thats pretty fast with nitro lag Nullifier too
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i currently overclocking my play to 1.6ghz and it runs fine.. games and apps run a lot more quicker

i'm quite interested in overclocking.. been thinking about it for the last months..
but i don't know, 1GHz is quite enough for me.. im not experiencing any slow down..

Well with 1.5Ghz then, you'll be amazed!

PsychoShaft said:
i currently overclocking my play to 1.6ghz and it runs fine.. games and apps run a lot more quicker
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Uaed same but not recommended, when you see problems cool it
I used the XDA App to post this, what did you use?

Using phone now but mostly use the pc
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Hot phone after rooting

I rooted my epic touch via oden, and after the root my phone start get hot all the time it gets hot while, charging ,talking on the phone , while on the internet no matter what I do...Please help my ear can't take much more of this heat...lol
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My phone started doing this lately and I restored/unrooted my phone and it doesnt get hot anymore. I've had my phone for 3 weeks and I rooted it on day 1 using zedomax's overclocked rom. Had no L.O.S issues at all but all of a sudden it started getting hot. Im gonna root again when he releases the next update....I miss my rooted phone already :'(

I use midnights rom without the Zedomaz OC kernal and use Z's stock kernal because I was having problems with receiving calls and texts.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1284092
Phone seems cool, BUT when I got my phone stock, it only ran hot with WIFI on and charging.

My phone also gets hot when I use it. What are your guys settings? Like brightness setting, or if it's OC& UV. The
I have my brightness lowered to the lowest setting and then changed he file again to lower it even more thanks to other devs and users.
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Do anyone have a sugestion for the over heating
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I suggest flashing StarBurst 1.6. I had overheating problems on stock doing basic things too (web, call, light gaming.) Ever since being rooted for about a week, no overheating since. Highest now is floating around 43 degrees celsius, and idle is 24-30.
I think the overheating has to do with the Android OS bug from what I've been experiencing on my phone. SB1.6 got rid of some background process that may help to lower AOS and overall heat output. Good luck.

ApocNarok said:
I suggest flashing StarBurst 1.6. I had overheating problems on stock doing basic things too (web, call, light gaming.) Ever since being rooted for about a week, no overheating since. Highest now is floating around 43 degrees celsius, and idle is 24-30.
I think the overheating has to do with the Android OS bug from what I've been experiencing on my phone. SB1.6 got rid of some background process that may help to lower AOS and overall heat output. Good luck.
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My phone gets hot in a similar fashion and I am stock.
I think you may be correct. I experience the AOS bug as well.

Do you have a link to the starburst rom
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Hard587 said:
Do you have a link to the starburst rom
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Hard587 said:
Do you have a link to the starburst rom
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Let us know if it makes a difference for you if you can
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What battery temp is normal and abnormal?

I have tried countless roms, and kernels over the past 6 months. It has become my new addiction since I stopped smoking! Haha. I'm running samurai 1.4 and my battery is hitting 100 degress F. Mind you, this is on the charger. Anyone know what's good and when to be concerned?
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If you use your phone and have it overclocked while its charging its gonna get hot. (I assume ur overclocked since u have that kernel)
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Yeah, its overclocked but nothing crazy. Usually keep it at 1100 since I use it so much. I suppose this was a pointless post. If its gonna get hot,then its gonna get hot. Thanks for the reply.
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System panel is a great app to check out...you can monitor CPU as well as battery temperature. If your pushing your CPU, its gonna get hot, like previously stated...but maybe if you monitor some things you may be able to cut down on app usuage to help the CPU out...good luck
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its still a tortoize :'(

hey guys m a noob i have in this roooting process for like just a few months and have changed around dozen roms.i currently on cm7.2 latest verison and my fone crashes around 5-6 times a day.i am using cm7 performance tuning as cpu 729-729(performance) compcache 26% vm heap is 64.in order to speed up the device i have installed sd speed increase on 3072kb but no results.my fone has around 60apps of which 55 are on internal memory while 5 on sd card i used mtd partion and partions were as system 130mb,cache 20mb,and internal 315mb.my fone lags like anything i was using adw launcher the other time but it crashed every 5times
now i am using go launcher and it is atleast not crashing now but it is very using as if i m using 512mhz processor.the games are also very slow ninjump is very annoying on the device.i surfed the internet for qvga temple run but it force closed and so with other games like nfs shift(not responding) and gangstar west cost (unresponsive)
did i rooted it wrong should i root over again?
also i flashed ruu and then also flashed cm7 but still its laging.
using the stock kernel of cm7
please help ASAP

Dissemble your phone ,cut your processor into 4 pieces and you will have a quad core.It will then become super fast like a leopard.
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This is nothing to do with rooting. You should know that wildfire doesnt have a gpu in it so the games dont run as they are suppose to be running. So overclocking doesnt do any significant good to its performance.
I see that you are running it at 729/729 which according to me is too much because the device heats up quite a lot with these settings and also leading to craches. Try atleast lowering the lower value. I personally use 691/352 with smarassv2 and it doesnt give me much lags with the scripts I use. Mind you I use adw launcher with all the animations enabled.
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bartoloandre98 said:
Dissemble your phone ,cut your processor into 4 pieces and you will have a quad core.It will then become super fast like a leopard.
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Haha. But still quadcore without gpu
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This is nothing to do with rooting. You should know that wildfire doesnt have a gpu i
i know wildfire doesnt comes with a gpu but ninjump should work flawless with overclocked processore my fone doesnt gets heated even on 729 if i use if for more than 6hours in straight and by temple run and gangsta i meant those games were mend to be compatible for a arm v6 processor still they arnt working even if i try everything with chainfire 3d

Yes they are compatible with armv6 processor thats why you are able to run them. But mind you games need graphic processing. Slow processor without gpu (graphic processing unit) can not do all the processing by itself.
Still there are many scripts available here on xda which can improve the performance of our device. You can try those and see if they help you.

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Just because you can't feel the heat doesn't mean it's not there before the phone gives in, every cpu has a different tolerance level.
Drop your cpu speed and it should stop the rebooting, I've heard of people that can't go above 691 before too.
As for the games its been said before many times, no gpu=no good graphical games, this cpu can't handle it. If you want a good phone that can don't buy bottom of range phones that have been out for years.
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I have searched a lot but only wat I could do was to increase performance a little and that too unstable if you can be so kind to give me links of the scripts you are talking about I would be thanful to you.also you said games are compatible for arm v6 but temple run v6 verison doesn't opens in my fone it just force closes everytime I try to open it while I have seen many galaxy y users run temple run.I am not complaining about the performance(no gpu) but atleast they run do you have a solution?
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Scratch0805 said:
Just because you can't feel the heat doesn't mean it's not there before the phone gives in, every cpu has a different tolerance level.
Drop your cpu speed and it should stop the rebooting, I've heard of people that can't go above 691 before too.
As for the games its been said before many times, no gpu=no good graphical games, this cpu can't handle it. If you want a good phone that can don't buy bottom of range phones that have been out for years.
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if you dont want to help its ok but dont unnessarily demotivate people who want to make something of their phone or who want to learn something.if wildfire is an outdated fone i am amazed why there was an unofficial cm9 port for it or an muni v4 port.for some people the fones do matter :/

saadislam said:
Yes they are compatible with armv6 processor thats why you are able to run them. But mind you games need graphic processing. Slow processor without gpu (graphic processing unit) can not do all the processing by itself.
Still there are many scripts available here on xda which can improve the performance of our device. You can try those and see if they help you.
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Can you please share more info about these scripts?
Thanks.....

tanmay.sharma said:
if you dont want to help its ok but dont unnessarily demotivate people who want to make something of their phone or who want to learn something.if wildfire is an outdated fone i am amazed why there was an unofficial cm9 port for it or an muni v4 port.for some people the fones do matter :/
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First of all read my post correctly, I gave you advice on how to stop the random reboots? How is that not being helpful?
Secondly it doesn't matter if they are compatible with armv6 they use a more advanced graphics engine which will just not work for us. I'm also guessing that a galaxy y has a gpu?? (correct me if I'm wrong).
As for your your other comment, the sun is shining today and I'm in a good mood so I won't bite!
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huston8 said:
Can you please share more info about these scripts?
Thanks.....
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1353903
You can try this if you want. I am using half of the included scripts to be honest.

Scratch0805 said:
First of all read my post correctly, I gave you advice on how to stop the random reboots? How is that not being helpful?
Secondly it doesn't matter if they are compatible with armv6 they use a more advanced graphics engine which will just not work for us. I'm also guessing that a galaxy y has a gpu?? (correct me if I'm wrong).
As for your your other comment, the sun is shining today and I'm in a good mood so I won't bite!
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I didn't read that u also had a wildfire m bad. so arnt there any good timepass games else than yo ninja uno etc? Also can I use the sense rosie launcher or tuochwiz launcher on my device.m currently running cm 7.2?if I can please provide me with the link. Thanks in advance
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saadislam said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1353903
You can try this if you want. I am using half of the included scripts to be honest.
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Man..that page is awesome like the one that has all update about the wildfire's roms,kernels,firmware ruu etc. But m stuck iib a thought why half why not full?
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Some were causing errors which I noticed in the logcat. It also contains a script to disable logcat so I removed it too.. You can say that I customized it to my style.
Ps. Dont ask me to make a zip for you as I dont have a working laptop.
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saadislam said:
Some were causing errors which I noticed in the logcat. It also contains a script to disable logcat so I removed it too.. You can say that I customized it to my style.
Ps. Dont ask me to make a zip for you as I dont have a working laptop.
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Lol I wont but still u can atleast tell me which scripts are not working for I don't want my wildfire to lag :what
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Dont worry it wont lag. I will give you a list of mine but not now. In a couple of hours maybe.
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First of all drop ur processor frequency because it is not supercomputer.use scratch post value,they r best for wildfire...
For games its just like running mass effect 3 on Pentium 3 with no nvidia or amd....
Thirdly don't be rude to other members because u r noob and scratch is a senior member and bro scratch helped me alot while I was rooting....
What u had done to your phone,I can only pray for it,even HTC will also not accept it,they will donate to nokia....
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saadislam said:
Dont worry it wont lag. I will give you a list of mine but not now. In a couple of hours maybe.
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I have all the time in the world I ll wait no prob. Ijust want the results nothing else
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Hot and rooted

Title says it all. If I root my S3, it heats up to uncomfortable temperatures. If it's on stock, it runs nice and cool. Battery doesn't seem to be affected by this new heat. And I've tried a lot of kernels and ROMs. Why does my S3 get hot when it's rooted? And I'm not talking like gaming, I'm talking about basic use.
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Hm maybe try underclocking a little bit?

Clock speed is same as stock. Shouldn't be the problem.
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Have you done anything to the CPU controls?
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dima470 said:
Title says it all. If I root my S3, it heats up to uncomfortable temperatures. If it's on stock, it runs nice and cool. Battery doesn't seem to be affected by this new heat. And I've tried a lot of kernels and ROMs. Why does my S3 get hot when it's rooted? And I'm not talking like gaming, I'm talking about basic use.
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My friends S3 used to get really hot and he wasn't rooted. I turned off his location service and no more heat. I presume the heat is coming from something that's running in the background. What rooting method are you using? Also you said you've tried ROMs and kernels. Is the heat coming from rooted stock or only when you switch to another ROM and/or kernel?
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drock212 said:
My friends S3 used to get really hot and he wasn't rooted. I turned off his location service and no more heat. I presume the heat is coming from something that's running in the background. What rooting method are you using? Also you said you've tried ROMs and kernels. Is the heat coming from rooted stock or only when you switch to another ROM and/or kernel?
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Location services off. Battery stats say screen takes up most of battery(normal for s3.) I used teamwin root from recovery. Anything other than full stock. Includes rooted stock and custom ROMs/kernels.
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Rooting would not cause any extra heating to occur lol

Give these a try. Better Battery Stats will determine if there's a wakelock not letting your phone truly sleep. And CPU Spy will let you know if your phone is getting stuck at any mhz or if it's sleeping.
Better Battery Stats https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.asksven.betterbatterystats
CPU Spy https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bvalosek.cpuspy
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drock212 said:
Give these a try. Better Battery Stats will determine if there's a wakelock not letting your phone truly sleep. And CPU Spy will let you know if your phone is getting stuck at any mhz or if it's sleeping.
Better Battery Stats https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.asksven.betterbatterystats
CPU Spy https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bvalosek.cpuspy
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Alright will post my findings today. Im sure that my phone gets the deep sleep it needs. It gets really hot during use.
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Which stats from BBS do you want? There are many sections.
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dima470 said:
Which stats from BBS do you want? There are many sections.
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I believe (don't quote me) it the wakelocks and partial wakelocks. Show's what making you phone not stay i deep sleep

hednik said:
I believe (don't quote me) it the wakelocks and partial wakelocks. Show's what making you phone not stay i deep sleep
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My phone deep sleeps just fine.. It gets extremely hot during use...
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dima470 said:
My phone deep sleeps just fine.. It gets extremely hot during use...
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If it's during use then CPU states. It might be running at higher mhz during use causing the heat problem.
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Alright will share CPU stats by end of the day. I'm pretty sure that's the problem.
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Ya I think my phone always runs at high frequencies. I used performance control to get this. Whenever I touch the screen or do anything, the clock speed jumps up to 1.5Ghz. My governer is interactive.
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dima470 said:
Ya I think my phone always runs at high frequencies. I used performance control to get this. Whenever I touch the screen or do anything, the clock speed jumps up to 1.5Ghz. My governer is interactive.
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that's what it's supposed to do. part of the "project butter" tweaks for jelly bean included this type of CPU jump when performing a task. that instant jolt to the maximum device GHz helps make doing everything on the phone more fluid/fast.
to get better battery on your device and troubleshoot whether this feature is hurting you specifically more than helping, feel free to adjust your max speed. start low, at say 1GHz, then bump it up a hundred at a time to find out where your phone is the most comfortable.

xBeerdroiDx said:
that's what it's supposed to do. part of the "project butter" tweaks for jelly bean included this type of CPU jump when performing a task. that instant jolt to the maximum device GHz helps make doing everything on the phone more fluid/fast.
to get better battery on your device and troubleshoot whether this feature is hurting you specifically more than helping, feel free to adjust your max speed. start low, at say 1GHz, then bump it up a hundred at a time to find out where your phone is the most comfortable.
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Can we maybe explain it as having a device that just run's hot ? It was my first inclination.
OP, maybe I glanced over it at first but you stated you have used many rom's and kernels and got the exact same response on all the ones you used ?
Did you you try going back to stock rooted and seeing how it was from there ? A completely clean slate might be your best idea. The only way a device will get hot is is more power is being used to keep the processor at higher temperatures. There really isn't any other way or than faulty hardware issue.

xBeerdroiDx said:
that's what it's supposed to do. part of the "project butter" tweaks for jelly bean included this type of CPU jump when performing a task. that instant jolt to the maximum device GHz helps make doing everything on the phone more fluid/fast.
to get better battery on your device and troubleshoot whether this feature is hurting you specifically more than helping, feel free to adjust your max speed. start low, at say 1GHz, then bump it up a hundred at a time to find out where your phone is the most comfortable.
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Guess project butter has a high pricetag. Are there any governers that don't do this? Or is this unpreventable?
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dima470 said:
Guess project butter has a high pricetag. Are there any governers that don't do this? Or is this unpreventable?
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its not a price tag. its a script set to take advantage and make the most of the hardware on your phone. as soon as the task has begun, the CPU speed drops immediately.
see above post by hednik. i lean towards his thinking on this

dima470 said:
Guess project butter has a high pricetag. Are there any governers that don't do this? Or is this unpreventable?
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I almost always use ondemand governor. In my humble opinion nearly all the other ones are inefficient or just placebo's. My phone runs streaming radio 4-5 hours a days on LTE and it never gets hot. Stays at around 918mhz at the highest. There a few bugs in 4.1.1 like the media server scanning where it will constantly scan your media because of a bad file.
Odin stock rooted 4.1.1 and then see how it goes. Factory reset it and erase /data or move to to pc or ex sd card. Won't take long and if it still does it I can't see what it would be.