Title says it all. If I root my S3, it heats up to uncomfortable temperatures. If it's on stock, it runs nice and cool. Battery doesn't seem to be affected by this new heat. And I've tried a lot of kernels and ROMs. Why does my S3 get hot when it's rooted? And I'm not talking like gaming, I'm talking about basic use.
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Hm maybe try underclocking a little bit?
Clock speed is same as stock. Shouldn't be the problem.
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Have you done anything to the CPU controls?
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Title says it all. If I root my S3, it heats up to uncomfortable temperatures. If it's on stock, it runs nice and cool. Battery doesn't seem to be affected by this new heat. And I've tried a lot of kernels and ROMs. Why does my S3 get hot when it's rooted? And I'm not talking like gaming, I'm talking about basic use.
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My friends S3 used to get really hot and he wasn't rooted. I turned off his location service and no more heat. I presume the heat is coming from something that's running in the background. What rooting method are you using? Also you said you've tried ROMs and kernels. Is the heat coming from rooted stock or only when you switch to another ROM and/or kernel?
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My friends S3 used to get really hot and he wasn't rooted. I turned off his location service and no more heat. I presume the heat is coming from something that's running in the background. What rooting method are you using? Also you said you've tried ROMs and kernels. Is the heat coming from rooted stock or only when you switch to another ROM and/or kernel?
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Location services off. Battery stats say screen takes up most of battery(normal for s3.) I used teamwin root from recovery. Anything other than full stock. Includes rooted stock and custom ROMs/kernels.
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Rooting would not cause any extra heating to occur lol
Give these a try. Better Battery Stats will determine if there's a wakelock not letting your phone truly sleep. And CPU Spy will let you know if your phone is getting stuck at any mhz or if it's sleeping.
Better Battery Stats https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.asksven.betterbatterystats
CPU Spy https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bvalosek.cpuspy
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Give these a try. Better Battery Stats will determine if there's a wakelock not letting your phone truly sleep. And CPU Spy will let you know if your phone is getting stuck at any mhz or if it's sleeping.
Better Battery Stats https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.asksven.betterbatterystats
CPU Spy https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bvalosek.cpuspy
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Alright will post my findings today. Im sure that my phone gets the deep sleep it needs. It gets really hot during use.
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Which stats from BBS do you want? There are many sections.
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Which stats from BBS do you want? There are many sections.
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I believe (don't quote me) it the wakelocks and partial wakelocks. Show's what making you phone not stay i deep sleep
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I believe (don't quote me) it the wakelocks and partial wakelocks. Show's what making you phone not stay i deep sleep
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My phone deep sleeps just fine.. It gets extremely hot during use...
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My phone deep sleeps just fine.. It gets extremely hot during use...
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If it's during use then CPU states. It might be running at higher mhz during use causing the heat problem.
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Alright will share CPU stats by end of the day. I'm pretty sure that's the problem.
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Ya I think my phone always runs at high frequencies. I used performance control to get this. Whenever I touch the screen or do anything, the clock speed jumps up to 1.5Ghz. My governer is interactive.
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Ya I think my phone always runs at high frequencies. I used performance control to get this. Whenever I touch the screen or do anything, the clock speed jumps up to 1.5Ghz. My governer is interactive.
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that's what it's supposed to do. part of the "project butter" tweaks for jelly bean included this type of CPU jump when performing a task. that instant jolt to the maximum device GHz helps make doing everything on the phone more fluid/fast.
to get better battery on your device and troubleshoot whether this feature is hurting you specifically more than helping, feel free to adjust your max speed. start low, at say 1GHz, then bump it up a hundred at a time to find out where your phone is the most comfortable.
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that's what it's supposed to do. part of the "project butter" tweaks for jelly bean included this type of CPU jump when performing a task. that instant jolt to the maximum device GHz helps make doing everything on the phone more fluid/fast.
to get better battery on your device and troubleshoot whether this feature is hurting you specifically more than helping, feel free to adjust your max speed. start low, at say 1GHz, then bump it up a hundred at a time to find out where your phone is the most comfortable.
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Can we maybe explain it as having a device that just run's hot ? It was my first inclination.
OP, maybe I glanced over it at first but you stated you have used many rom's and kernels and got the exact same response on all the ones you used ?
Did you you try going back to stock rooted and seeing how it was from there ? A completely clean slate might be your best idea. The only way a device will get hot is is more power is being used to keep the processor at higher temperatures. There really isn't any other way or than faulty hardware issue.
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that's what it's supposed to do. part of the "project butter" tweaks for jelly bean included this type of CPU jump when performing a task. that instant jolt to the maximum device GHz helps make doing everything on the phone more fluid/fast.
to get better battery on your device and troubleshoot whether this feature is hurting you specifically more than helping, feel free to adjust your max speed. start low, at say 1GHz, then bump it up a hundred at a time to find out where your phone is the most comfortable.
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Guess project butter has a high pricetag. Are there any governers that don't do this? Or is this unpreventable?
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Guess project butter has a high pricetag. Are there any governers that don't do this? Or is this unpreventable?
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its not a price tag. its a script set to take advantage and make the most of the hardware on your phone. as soon as the task has begun, the CPU speed drops immediately.
see above post by hednik. i lean towards his thinking on this
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Guess project butter has a high pricetag. Are there any governers that don't do this? Or is this unpreventable?
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I almost always use ondemand governor. In my humble opinion nearly all the other ones are inefficient or just placebo's. My phone runs streaming radio 4-5 hours a days on LTE and it never gets hot. Stays at around 918mhz at the highest. There a few bugs in 4.1.1 like the media server scanning where it will constantly scan your media because of a bad file.
Odin stock rooted 4.1.1 and then see how it goes. Factory reset it and erase /data or move to to pc or ex sd card. Won't take long and if it still does it I can't see what it would be.
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So I'm currently running Juggs 5.0 and using the Darkside kernel. First day was rocky but relished it and love how smooth it is. Now am just testing the battery life. Here are much questions... 1) I was using cpu tune for my Faux kernel and used different profiles for it. Since I have Gideons script can I still do that? 2) Do you recommend it since I have this script? 3) I want my phone to not use hardly any battery when at rest or sleep, what's the best way to do this with the info I have given? Also I am using juice defender. Thanks in advance fellas !!
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So I'm currently running Juggs 5.0 and using the Darkside kernel. First day was rocky but relished it and love how smooth it is. Now am just testing the battery life. Here are much questions... 1) I was using cpu tune for my Faux kernel and used different profiles for it. Since I have Gideons script can I still do that? 2) Do you recommend it since I have this script? 3) I want my phone to not use hardly any battery when at rest or sleep, what's the best way to do this with the info I have given? Also I am using juice defender. Thanks in advance fellas !!
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1) Yes but I wouldn't recommend it, its equivalent to having two CPU apps, they'll conflict, so pick one
2) See point one
3) Make sure your phone is deep sleeping, by using CPU spy and betterbatterystats to avoid app wake locks, which keep your phone from entering deep sleep and draining more battery.
For better performance all around (including deep sleep) i recommend undervolting with either faux clock or system tuner. Gideon script can also be modified to undervolt more if you read up on it a little.
As a side note, the general consensus among power users is that juice defender sucks. It drains more than it saves
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1) Yes but I wouldn't recommend it, its equivalent to having two CPU apps, they'll conflict, so pick one
2) See point one
3) Make sure your phone is deep sleeping, by using CPU spy and betterbatterystats to avoid app wake locks, which keep your phone from entering deep sleep and draining more battery.
For better performance all around (including deep sleep) i recommend undervolting with either faux clock or system tuner. Gideon script can also be modified to undervolt more if you read up on it a little.
As a side note, the general consensus among power users is that juice defender sucks. It drains more than it saves
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1) thanks. I think I will delete this app for this particular app
2)got it
3)I downloaded them and will need to learn more about wakelocks.
Have never heard if this.
Here are my stats.
384 mhz 33%
1080 mhz 13%
Total state time 4:30.30
Deepsleep 47%
Ill try a tune to see which is best for undervolting . Thanks for your assistance
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Ok partial wakelocks unplugged had juicedefender at 11 mins and 4.1%. Partial since charged JD is 29 mins 3.8% and activity manager launcher .8%.... This is what I got. So is JD really draining more than it saves? Just curious.
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Ok partial wakelocks unplugged had juicedefender at 11 mins and 4.1%. Partial since charged JD is 29 mins 3.8% and activity manager launcher .8%.... This is what I got. So is JD really draining more than it saves? Just curious.
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yup, it causes all those wake locks ur reading about. No point having an app the reportedly saves battery life but really just prevents deep sleep?? kinda useless in my opinion lol
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yup, it causes all those wake locks ur reading about. No point having an app the reportedly saves battery life but really just prevents deep sleep?? kinda useless in my opinion lol
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Got it. So my kernel will kill the radio and etc that JD already does and save me battery? Because that is what JD is for right? Also I can't find faux clock on the market.
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Actually I found it another way. I remember reading something at one time about undervolting and I may be wrong, but should I try at -25mv increments??
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Got it. So my kernel will kill the radio and etc that JD already does and save me battery? Because that is what JD is for right? Also I can't find faux clock on the market.
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No, a kernel won't kill the radio. Jd sucks, and it eats up more battery than it saves. Having your radios shut off makes a smartphone dumb. Run gideons script and call it a day.
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OK so here is my current stats.
Deepsleep 73%
384MHz 14%
1188MHz 8%
Battery stats say it's been unplugged for 10h 4m with 50% left.
My question is why isn't my phone using the higher 1188 and using the lower number? So does this.mean my phone is moving at a slow rate? Thanks again!
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Oh on my darkside kernel using Gideon's script -50v setting and I went ahead and did my own-50v as well. Any tips??
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OK so here is my current stats.
Deepsleep 73%
384MHz 14%
1188MHz 8%
Battery stats say it's been unplugged for 10h 4m with 50% left.
My question is why isn't my phone using the higher 1188 and using the lower number? So does this.mean my phone is moving at a slow rate? Thanks again!
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Did you read what the script does? It underclocks your cpu and undervolts it
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Did you read what the script does? It underclocks your cpu and undervolts it
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Yeah I know that but I still don't know a lot about it still. I have to read here and there and processing time for me may not be as quick as some of y'all But what I thought underclocking was is it is going below the standard speed that my phone typically does like 1242. So it would run at 1080 or whatever rate I chose. So I guess I'm wondering is when does it decide to run at whatever MHz it runs at? So the numbers I showed, is that about right or good? Again thanks
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Yeah I know that but I still don't know a lot about it still. I have to read here and there and processing time for me may not be as quick as some of y'all But what I thought underclocking was is it is going below the standard speed that my phone typically does like 1242. So it would run at 1080 or whatever rate I chose. So I guess I'm wondering is when does it decide to run at whatever MHz it runs at? So the numbers I showed, is that about right or good? Again thanks
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It scales up depending on CPU load, and the governor used
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It scales up depending on CPU load, and the governor used
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Thanks for your patients dude. I'm assuming mine is running the way it's supposed to be. No lags that I can notice even with me undervolting a little more.
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Thanks for your patients dude. I'm assuming mine is running the way it's supposed to be. No lags that I can notice even with me undervolting a little more.
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Sounds like it's doing just fine to me! Don't be afraid to push the thanks button, lol
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Sounds like it's doing just fine to me! Don't be afraid to push the thanks button, lol
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Oh yeah, my bad LOL!
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This is unbelievable, this phone gets faster BY the minute
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Hows your cpu set up and governors ro achieve thatscore
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Hows your cpu set up and governors ro achieve thatscore
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It's more based on how the rom works, and the kernel yes helps with CPU and GPU scores but I noticed his GPU scores are lower than mine, one of the nation reasons I'm still stock. Because it's probably persues kernel and has issues with FPS in real world and quadrant performance.
He probably ran it 1600/1600 on performance or something on those lines
Edit: this is mine stock rooted GPU much better than his, until persues can match this without overclocking the GPU just to get the same performance I do on stock I'm not switching.
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Overclocked at 1.9ghz and gpu to 640 mhz with specific undervolting. Redpill kernel...
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Whats your battery life like? 1.9 is amazing
Lol see if that thing isn't a brick after a week of use.
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Lmao this guy^^^^^ op dont let him scare you. Talk when it has actually happend if so care to share the story?
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Lmao this guy^^^^^ op dont let him scare you. Talk when it has actually happend if so care to share the story?
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Maybe you should consider that you're not the brightest, most experienced person in this thread before talking smack.
Exposing a component to more heat means you are shortening its life, there is no doubt about that. Those with overclocked desktop CPUs often have elaborate setups with overclocking in mind. You can't add a better heatsink, or a fan to your phone. Mobile CPUs, especially, are designed to be efficient at a certain range of clock frequencies. Moving it too far from the norm means you eventually see diminishing returns.
I've fried everything from my first Commodore 64 to my current box, and everything in between. If you think the phone can function at that level for an extended period of time without failure, best of luck to you.
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Lol see if that thing isn't a brick after a week of use.
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Dude it was part of the whole meaning of rooting and tweaking. Checking different settings for a little bit, testing them and then reverting back to defaults. I will never leave overclocked/ undervolted or vice-versa settings for a whole day... its just part of the fun of tweaking and experimenting with our devices...
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I am all for overclocking, modding, tweaking, hacking, etc. Breaking **** is the best way to learn. But that doesn't mean you should push your hardware past the point of exponentially diminishing returns, and increased risk of burning your chips out. That is, unless, you have no problem with the very real possibility that you'll need to buy a new phone.
That being said, kudos on "going plaid" with your Quadrant score
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I am all for overclocking, modding, tweaking, hacking, etc. Breaking **** is the best way to learn. But that doesn't mean you should push your hardware past the point of exponentially diminishing returns, and increased risk of burning your chips out. That is, unless, you have no problem with the very real possibility that you'll need to buy a new phone.
That being said, kudos on "going plaid" with your Quadrant score
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Im with you 100% thus my paranoia about leaving the tweaked cpu/gpu settings for more than an hour or so... Too "paranoid android"
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redpill?
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Overclocked at 1.9ghz and gpu to 640 mhz with specific undervolting. Redpill kernel...
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How is the kernel treating ya? Which one did you flash?
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It's more based on how the rom works, and the kernel yes helps with CPU and GPU scores but I noticed his GPU scores are lower than mine, one of the nation reasons I'm still stock. Because it's probably persues kernel and has issues with FPS in real world and quadrant performance.
He probably ran it 1600/1600 on performance or something on those lines
Edit: this is mine stock rooted GPU much better than his, until persues can match this without overclocking the GPU just to get the same performance I do on stock I'm not switching.
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I'm stock rooted for this very reason.
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How is the kernel treating ya? Which one did you flash?
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Its the Redpill v1.42... I prefer it compared to all the others i used ( stock, perseus, n.e.a.k., note2core). Those results were with stock rom but redpill kernel. Im a fan of omega but today i discovered another Rom (Hawkish extreme series Rom for N7100). I may try Perseus with that rom and see how it treats it...
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So my phone keeping getting hot after 10 mins of use why? I am currently running liquid smooth aosp jelly bean 4.2.1 beta 2. Is it the ROM or what?
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So my phone keeping getting hot after 10 mins of use why? I am currently running liquid smooth aosp jelly bean 4.2.1 beta 2. Is it the ROM or what?
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Is something driving up your CPU usage? The fastest way to check that might be to see what's draining your phone's battery using the usual methods.
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So my phone keeping getting hot after 10 mins of use why? I am currently running liquid smooth aosp jelly bean 4.2.1 beta 2. Is it the ROM or what?
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Download ktoonz kernel then undervolt
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CaLLm3LAzY- said:
So my phone keeping getting hot after 10 mins of use why? I am currently running liquid smooth aosp jelly bean 4.2.1 beta 2. Is it the ROM or what?
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I had same problem. For me the fix was getting LeanKernel 2.0.
4 hrs screen on time! Its the best for my phone. Since all kernels are device specific it might not be best for you.
To get it go to T-Mobile gs3 go to original dev and download lean kernel 2.0. Make sure its 2.0.
T-Mobile and AT&T work the same. If you use one of the other 4.2 ROMs on here I think Liquid smooth it comes with Lean kernel pre installed.
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Is something driving up your CPU usage? The fastest way to check that might be to see what's draining your phone's battery using the usual methods.
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My CPU is set normal at 1.5 and no I close all my apps all I just do is check my gmail or go on the web and then it just get hot.
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I had same problem. For me the fix was getting LeanKernel 2.0.
4 hrs screen on time! Its the best for my phone. Since all kernels are device specific it might not be best for you.
To get it go to T-Mobile gs3 go to original dev and download lean kernel 2.0. Make sure its 2.0.
T-Mobile and AT&T work the same. If you use one of the other 4.2 ROMs on here I think Liquid smooth it comes with Lean kernel pre installed.
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Yes it dose, it comes with lean kernel 2.0 rc8 somthing like that. any other suggestions?
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Yes it dose, it comes with lean kernel 2.0 rc8 somthing like that. any other suggestions?
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I would suggest to update to his latest version. It no longer RC.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1845836
If that kernel doesnt work for you, you can always try Ktoonsez kernel here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1756776
But for me personally, his kernel and the stock kernel that comes with Task's ROM always make my phone hot and battery drains faster. But many people report those kernels work great for them.
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I would suggest to update to his latest version. It no longer RC.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1845836
If that kernel doesnt work for you, you can always try Ktoonsez kernel here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1756776
But for me personally, his kernel and the stock kernel that comes with Task's ROM always make my phone hot and battery drains faster. But many people report those kernels work great for them.
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Thanks and buy the way Is when i open the link on leans kernel do click latest kernel? So this wont damage my phone or anything ? i don't really know a lot about kernels sorry. And thanks for helping me out.
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Keep checking your processor settings, on my phone, it kept over clocking and under clocking randomly. Even without me touching the settings. Or get a widget to help you keep an eye on your ghz.
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Keep checking your processor settings, on my phone, it kept over clocking and under clocking randomly. Even without me touching the settings. Or get a widget to help you keep an eye on your ghz.
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My CPU is at 1512 maximum and 384 minimum and when I touch like an app or play with the phone it clocks at 1.5 and when its just sitting there it clocks at 0.3 is that what your talking about.
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My CPU is at 1512 maximum and 384 minimum and when I touch like an app or play with the phone it clocks at 1.5 and when its just sitting there it clocks at 0.3 is that what your talking about.
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No no. Like it would randomly change the setting to 1.9/1.8 ghz max. Sometimes it would set the max to 1.1 ghz. I donno, it was weird. Maybe that's your problem, maybe not. Every phone is different.
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No no. Like it would randomly change the setting to 1.9/1.8 ghz max. Sometimes it would set the max to 1.1 ghz. I donno, it was weird. Maybe that's your problem, maybe not. Every phone is different.
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Oh OK no my CPU doesn't do that It just gets hot for no reason.
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The same thing happens to me. It's not really hot, it's just kind of warm. It only happens when I'm using the phone, when it's locked it sleeps just fine and keeps cool. Otherwise it heats up and drains my battery in the process. CPU Spy shows my clock speed switches between 384Mhz and 1.5 Ghz depending on what I'm doing. My CPU usage isn't consistently high, even if its at 10% it still does it, seems quite normal. I can turn off data, wifi, bluetooth, and location services, doesn't help at all. I've tried resetting my battery stats, where I charged to 100%, cleared stats, depleted fully, then charged too 100% fully. No different. The heat comes from the bottom of the phone, maybe closer to the right side about an inch from the bottom, it is not coming from the battery. My battery usage shows high usage on the Media process or the Android System process. Ending either of them does not help, so I'm assuming they aren't actually using the battery like it says they are.
I'm running Liquid Smooth 4.2 beta 2, same as OP, with leankernel 2.2. It does the same thing with KT kernel, I've tried undervolting but it persists. I've also had this issue running slimbean, Liquidsmooth RC8, and RC9. My battery was pretty good when I used to run stock, and it was absolutely amazing when I ran LiquidSmooth RC3 and RC5.
Hi All,
There are modifications for the thermald.conf, which controls your CPU and GPU after a certain temperature.
I've modified the file to fit different profiles that'll work for people. So without further ado, here are the profiles.
Remember to backup before flashing, and not responsible for bricks and blah an blah, but if you do happen to
here's the guide on soft-bricking Guide
Stock
This is the stock file with no change.
Stock Therma
Optimized Stock
This is a slightly optimized stock that deals with the overheating and throttles the CPU and GPU properly.
Optimized Stock
Gaming
This prioritizes the GPU for gaming over any other feature
Gaming Therma
Gaming (Plus Battery Saver)
This prioritizes gaming; however, also throttles your CPU to help save battery.
Gaming Therma + Battery Saver
Better CPU
This is probably the best battery saver; however, it drastically throttles the GPU.
Better CPU
Full Power
Ignores any throttling rules, but battery drain will happen. And phone will overheat quicker. However, you'll experience the fastest speeds.
Full Power
Best Battery and Overheating
This sacrifices performance to optimize battery and subdue the heating issues.
Best Battery
Sweet, thank you
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How does this differ from Eco-Mode in terms of cpu throttling? Or is this strictly throttling for the GPU, and has nothing to do with the CPU?
Carrick1973 said:
How does this differ from Eco-Mode in terms of CPU throttling? Or is this strictly throttling for the GPU, and has nothing to do with the CPU?
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Eco-mode utilizes two cores rather than all four.
This mod is based on temperature, and throttles according to the devices temperature. Currently, throttling already happens when the phone reaches a certain temp; however, this mod alters the throttling to either enforce stricter rules, or ignore the throttling completely.
AdriVelazquez said:
Eco-mode utilizes two cores rather than all four.
This mod is based on temperature, and throttles according to the devices temperature. Currently, throttling already happens when the phone reaches a certain temp; however, this mod alters the throttling to either enforce stricter rules, or ignore the throttling completely.
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Will it help with the heating problem everyone has?
cthedogg said:
Will it help with the heating problem everyone has?
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It can; however, you'll be sacrificing performance.
AdriVelazquez said:
It can; however, you'll be sacrificing performance.
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Good enough for me.
cthedogg said:
Good enough for me.
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how could i reverse it if I don't like it?
angelpenny48 said:
how could i reverse it if I don't like it?
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Flash the stock zip.
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I add an optimized stock that scales the throttling more optimally.
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Question. Will it affect that stupid bug that they keep on this phone that as soon as the phone is a tiny bit hot the brightness lowers and will not let you make it higher until it cools off even though the phones not really that hot?and what is this heating problem everyone has? My phone never gets hot!! Never! 90° and screen brightness lowers... Is that what post meant? Cuz ya I just mentioned that but real heat.. .never
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Crwolv said:
Question. Will it affect that stupid bug that they keep on this phone that as soon as the phone is a tiny bit hot the brightness lowers and will not let you make it higher until it cools off even though the phones not really that hot?and what is this heating problem everyone has? My phone never gets hot!! Never! 90° and screen brightness lowers... Is that what post meant? Cuz ya I just mentioned that but real heat.. .never
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Yes, this can deal with that; however, I still enforced the rule to lower brightness if the phone reaches a certain temperature.
Despite the fact the phone doesn't feel hot, the temperature my very well be on the rise.
I would recommend that you use the optimized stock. This version would scale the phone better, and never really overheat this never causing the brightness to go down.
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Most of the links say server offline. Is that normal at times?
bowhunt2005 said:
Most of the links say server offline. Is that normal at times?
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it's just goo.im doing site maintenance. It looks like it's a ll back up. .
Will these still work on zvb?
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AOKPBrownNoser said:
Will these still work on zvb?
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Probably stick with this thread, posted under general, for now:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2173118
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How to prevent it?
How to stop it?
(stock rom +stock kernel)
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When does the overheating start? playing games? just randomly?
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When does the overheating start? playing games? just randomly?
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Yeah when I play games or when I have the screen on for like more than 10 minutes
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Gaming make sense if its one of those hardcore games...but just regular times doesn't. You may have a defective battery. You have any battery laying around to test this theory?
mgbotoe said:
Gaming make sense if its one of those hardcore games...but just regular times doesn't. You may have a defective battery. You have any battery laying around to test this theory?
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It's bloons td battle, it's that game
And yeah I have a extra battery
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kevinrubio1 said:
It's bloons td battle, it's that game
And yeah I have a extra battery
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Thats a relatively hardcore game xD especially at the major levels
elesbb said:
Thats a relatively hardcore game xD especially at the major levels
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Haha it gets pretty intense when the big balloons come in! But yeah maybe it's just the game
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It also over heats when I'm on the charger
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Could be voltage or thermal settings too, I have Ktoonsez kernel with Infamous S4 Rom, and I undervolt the voltage for everything and my phone doesn't get all that warm anymore.
kevinrubio1 said:
How to prevent it?
How to stop it?
(stock rom +stock kernel)
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You can find other roms for your phone that can prevent overheating...
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JJalowiec said:
Could be voltage or thermal settings too, I have Ktoonsez kernel with Infamous S4 Rom, and I undervolt the voltage for everything and my phone doesn't get all that warm anymore.
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I'm on stock everything
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JJalowiec said:
Could be voltage or thermal settings too, I have Ktoonsez kernel with Infamous S4 Rom, and I undervolt the voltage for everything and my phone doesn't get all that warm anymore.
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I'm on stock kernel!
bryanchan727 said:
You can find other roms for your phone that can prevent overheating...
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I don't like custom roms
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JJalowiec said:
Could be voltage or thermal settings too, I have Ktoonsez kernel with Infamous S4 Rom, and I undervolt the voltage for everything and my phone doesn't get all that warm anymore.
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Hi,
Can you tell me exactly what you did and what I need to to do undervolt my S4 because I have a case on it and it gets really hot
Thanks
Iam in original stock rom not rooted phone, but I note its heat when I see movies on my phone.. any idea please?
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futbolista169 said:
Hi,
Can you tell me exactly what you did and what I need to to do undervolt my S4 because I have a case on it and it gets really hot
Thanks
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I use SetCpu to maintain kernel settings, I keep max speed to 1.3 ghz and min to 162mhz, and under it there is a spot to undervolt, I do -50 on that... thats pretty much it, governor is "ondemand" and scheduler is "cfq"
It's natural for this phone to get hot. It's only overheating when its shutting itself off or acting strange once it gets hot.
It's normal for the cpu temps to go to the 70C range when doing heavy applications.
I would recommend a custom ROM, with KT's Kernel. The Custom ROMS normally offer a much debloated solution with some minor optimizations which does reduce background tasks on the phone allowing the CPU to run at lower frequencies which helps maintain a cooler temperature.
KT's Kernel also has several options such as undervolting, lowering max frequencies, governors, and tweaks that also will help keep the CPU running cooler. Altogether you get extra battery life, a cooler phone, less garbage that you have just sitting on your device.
If you want to stay stock, that's fine, but it's normal to get hot to the touch.
As Monkz said, is completely normal. If you're playing an online game or
one that has good graphics, it's bound to be hot.