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Hello everybody,
actually Im a big fan of HTC-Devices and Sense. Everything startet with a HTC Blackstone and Windows-Mobile. Currently Im using a HTC Legend and Desire (private & work).
Meanwhile Im bored of the Design of HTC. To thick to "normal".
So now the Xperia Arc comes in. Wundervoll design, thin and compare to the measures small. Disadvantage for me is the USB-Port on the side for the dockingstation (New trend?) and the missing front camera.
But mybe there are other advantages than the design that I missed.
Actually what I want to ask is, why did you buy the ARC?
grossermanitu said:
Actually what I want to ask is, why did you buy the ARC?
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I have also used many models of HTCphone, I have changed to SE Arc for 3 months.
With Arc I'm happy because it has a lot of things better than HTC phones such as Arc has good radio, clear sound, its screen looks like Bravia TV. With Arc's camera I can have a lot of very beautiful pictures on days or night especially with added software Arc can take nice panorama picture and more...
I'm a SE-fanboy, liking the Arc and my X10 started to reboot often so I got it.
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I like Sony Mobile Bravia Engine, the Reality Display and the arc shape.
reasons why i bought the Arc:
- I'm a big SE fan, had a X10 but was missing 'some things'(vague, i know)
- Big 4.2" screen (with the bravia engine it looks great)
- Really good camera quality in day & night(and it takes a picture fast)
- The design: just look at the thing man! (let's be honnest all phone in the xperia range look very good)
Most SE designs look like they are made to my taste. Or you can also say others make phones that look ugly to my taste .
But I wish SE can improve the build quality of their phones to feel more solid and use more metal. I find HTC phones to have much better build quality than SE phones but somehow their phone designs don't interest me.
Samsung is a joke. They just copy everyone. To me, their best looking phone is Captivate and it looks somewhat like X10.
I have a desire. It's nice but not as nice as the arc. The pictures, audio quality and radio on the desire is appalling.
After playing with an arc in a store the camera is excellent, the audio quality is superb the radio works and the screen is beautifull.....but why SE why have such crap build quality?
I am looking forward to the RAY and that may be my next phone.
Xperia ray is beautiful but smaller. For me... Arc is suitable. Smaller than Dell streak and bigger than ray.
Gunawan - GN Multimedia - Xperia Arc
Killingly cool design
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1. design 2. camera 3. interface design. After using an atrix i decided a dualcore wasn't worth it for what i needed to do and would rather trade it for the "curvaceous" arc. Brother has a SGS2 and it is awesome, but the stock samsung ROM really leaves a lot to be desired design wise. Have a look at their stock dialer. blegh.
edit: oh yea, cant forget about the screen. Perfect size and looks great.
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1. design 2. camera 3. interface design. After using an atrix i decided a dualcore wasn't worth it for what i needed to do and would rather trade it for the "curvaceous" arc. Brother has a SGS2 and it is awesome, but the stock samsung ROM really leaves a lot to be desired design wise. Have a look at their stock dialer. blegh.
edit: oh yea, cant forget about the screen. Perfect size and looks great.
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Exactly my first thoughts. Dont know what happened to HTC. But hey a good chance to see sth. different.
Ps:I just bought my Arc on Amazon Warehousedeals 304,-€
i saw it and wanted it
looks good
good camera
and i dont need a front camera
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Xperia ray is beautiful but smaller. For me... Arc is suitable. Smaller than Dell streak and bigger than ray.
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I actually enjoyed the fact that Ray is small, but still packs almost the same features of Arc, sometimes i fell the x10 is already too big and Arc is even bigger. But i'll wait a little longer until buying a new device, my old x10 still serves me well and there's a lot of cool stuff being released, i'm not even sure if my next phone will be a SE but i do like their designs a lot.
a friend took me to sony store
hold the arc, dummy set even (high quality ofcos) and fall in love, feels great in my hand, desire hd looks outdated
ditch my HTC desire HD for arc design, camera, better speaker, love the home button for turning on the screen rather then power button way up the top, and it feels great in my pocket, but usually protected in my waist pouch 95% of the time
if you wan speed and nothing else, sgs2 with dual core and 1gb of ram will be your choice
My main reason for buying it was for 100% live view compatibility...
how disappointed was I!!
For me, it's the design. Big screen with BE and of course, the caméra.
I always liked the design of SE phones and will like for their future designes.
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the price mainly
The brand
The camera
The screen size
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- Nice design, really sexy
- good camera for both picture and video
- stable performance.
- good brand
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Brand
Camera
UI
Screen
Design
Weight
* Looks
* Camera
* Screen
* Thinness (makes the phone pocketable despite the large screen)
* Rootable, Unlockable bootloader
The brand was actually a huge negative for me - i loathe and distrust sony. I only bought after i managed to convince myself that SE are an entirely separate company.
Hi
I want to change my phone, and I simply cannot decide.
At Vodafone RO, the Arc would cost me 235eur and the Sensation 290eur.
What I want from a phone: decent battery life (I want it to last a day with web browsing); great display: I want a big and high-quality display; good looks and high quality build; decent performance: smooth web browsing, smooth UI but I don't care about gaming performance or 1080p video shooting/playback.
I played with both phones, but never had one for a few days. I noticed that the Sensation is not so fast, actually in some circumstances it's pretty slow; something bugging me at Sensation: closed all running apps and the remaining RAM was still 150mb; tried it with 3 different devices and read about this in a review. Plus, I saw that the web-browsing battery life is lower than Arc's.
What bothers me most about the Arc: the 320mb internal memory; as I know from my P500 (~150mb internal), the memory fills pretty fast...
So my question is: is the not-so-fast Sensation worth over the single-core wonderful-looking Arc? I really want objective opinions and I want to know how's the Arc in real-life, please
Hi There,
I have the Arc, when i bought i also looked at the Sensation and S2..
I use the Arc a fair bit for web browsing and instant messaging and I have to be honest and say i would struggle to get the day out of it. I usually find myself topping it up at my PC during the day. I would only imaging the Sensation is worse though. I had a HTC Desire before the Arc and it drained a lot quicker than the Arc and ran a lot hotter. A few niggles I find with the Arc -
1) Keyboard entry - for some reason its not always 100% accurate.. this improves if i clean the screen so could be down to the screen protector thats factory fitted to the Arc
2) Reboot times - no consistency with my Arc - could be 30 seconds could be 2 minutes
3) I have seem some slowdowns screen redraws slowly etc but nothing that would be put me off using the phone.
Anyway they are my negatives - there are plenty of positives but im sure you are aware of those already
Cheers,
Mick
I also looked at the sensation and desire s but after using my stepdads desire s and my brothers sensation I settled for the arc, I use it heavily for web browsing and some gaming during the day and mine lasts from about 8am til around 11pm the screen is very sharp and clear as im sure youve noticed
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One advantage of Xperia arc is that it is recently rooted and you will witness everything from the first succesful rom (CM7) which is coming soon to many custom roms. Basically you will witness xperia arc's developer timeline
I bought an arc in June, and afterwards I had the chance to fiddle a bit with a friend's Sensation. I have to say, I was not that impressed with the latter.
The display is not that great and the overall build quality seems much poorer than other non-HTC phones.
For example, after barely one month of use, my friend's Sensation had the colour faded on the housing at the corners, so it have off a really cheap plastic feeling. He also managed to drop it once to the floor from ~1m and it had a nice dent on the edge...
Whereas my arc still looks brand new! I also dropped it a few times but no visible marks were left.
The only thing I'm a bit disappointed in is the screen. Sony Ericsson say it's scratch resistant, but it's not Gorilla glass. A little extra care is required. Or a screen protector, for that matter.
Overall, I'm glad I got an arc. Rooted, OC'd to 1.6GHz and with v6Supercharger script running, it's lightning fast and smooth, it doesn't lag (and I'm quite a heavy multitasker) and even after ~150 uptime hours, I still have around 150MB of free RAM.
So if you're happy with a single-core, I definitely recommend the arc. If you want dual, the Galaxy S II is the best choice, in my opinion.
Hello,
You said good display, I definately reccomend Arc, I was today comparing display with Optimus 2x ( I know it's not Sensation) and image at arc got crispness and it shows ALOT better darker colours image is brighter(or got more contrast)-i dont know.
Although O2x got higher illuminated screen. And I dont think that S-LCD is better than just LCD.
About battery in Sensation I've read that HTC set battery to charge to 80% (it will show 100%) for security reasons, and more lifetime. It's possible to fix it.
Ive tried both and they both have the pros and cons but i still love the arc for what its worth. HTC just includes alot of widgets and animation. I think that is why alot of people like there phones.
Well, the fact is that I don't really want to mod my next phone. I want to buy a phone that's good as it is.
The only reason I modded my P500 is becuase it's crappy with the stock ROM.
About Sense UI: it's something I really like (although many people say it's just visual crap), we have 2 sense ROMs ported to P500 but sadly GSM doesn't work (those were the ROMs I was looking most forward to). The Arc's UI is pretty elegant but I don't like the fact that it's pretty poor in colors (I like colourful icons on black backgrounds). And I really hate the fact that it's missing smart dialling, that's a feature I use all the time. But there's no perfect device.
@crimilde: I don't want the SGS2; in my opinion, an expensive phone must have a high quality housing to justify its money and the SGS2 is made out of crappy plastic. For me the build quality is very important and I don't want to spend 1600RON on a crappy-plastic toy.
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Well I used to have a Desire and rooted and installed numerous custom roms.
My 2 penneth... with the Sensation there will soon be numerous roms and you will be able to sort out any battery issues. The screen isn't as good as the Arc BUT when app devs start to take advantage of dual core you'll see the benefits.
I ultimately went for the Arc as the screen is fantastic, battery life is pretty good (of course you should use auto screen brightness as well as oother power tweaks to get more than 1 days usage - I can get more than I could with my desire)
For those talking about keyboard accuracy, just install the gingerbread keyboard from the market and your accuracy probs will be sorted.
Ultimately my advice, go for the Arc, looks great, is fast enough and the screen is brilliant (oh and audio is good too)
Hope this helps!
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Hi There,
I have the Arc, when i bought i also looked at the Sensation and S2..
I use the Arc a fair bit for web browsing and instant messaging and I have to be honest and say i would struggle to get the day out of it. I usually find myself topping it up at my PC during the day. I would only imaging the Sensation is worse though. I had a HTC Desire before the Arc and it drained a lot quicker than the Arc and ran a lot hotter. A few niggles I find with the Arc -
1) Keyboard entry - for some reason its not always 100% accurate.. this improves if i clean the screen so could be down to the screen protector thats factory fitted to the Arc
2) Reboot times - no consistency with my Arc - could be 30 seconds could be 2 minutes
3) I have seem some slowdowns screen redraws slowly etc but nothing that would be put me off using the phone.
Anyway they are my negatives - there are plenty of positives but im sure you are aware of those already
Cheers,
Mick
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keyboard entry was a problem from x10, i think they have fixed it for the arc(x12). so far it seems to be fine. try update to the latest fw.
i apply another screen protection on top of the factory default screen protector. it doesn't bother me with the input at all.
i recommend to put another screen protection, couse the factory default screen protector is a little bit tricky to replace.
about batery life, it improves a lot after around 10 full-cycle charges. when i first bought it, it rarely past 24 hour. updated to the latest fw, deleted unwanted bloadware, and optimize batery setting (brightness, timeout time, etc) and now :
it can past 48 hours with normal use (texting, little gaming and wifi)
it can past 24 hours with moderate use (fare gaming and wifi)
it can past 12 hours with heavy use (lots of gaming and wifi)
ps. i use live wallpaper all the time, couse static wallpaper is boring
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Well, the fact is that I don't really want to mod my next phone. I want to buy a phone that's good as it is.
The only reason I modded my P500 is becuase it's crappy with the stock ROM.
@crimilde: I don't want the SGS2; in my opinion, an expensive phone must have a high quality housing to justify its money and the SGS2 is made out of crappy plastic. For me the build quality is very important and I don't want to spend 1600RON on a crappy-plastic toy.
Thanks for your help, my 5 thanks per day limit kicked in on this thread )
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well, i still haven't mod my arc, still impressed with the oficial fw updates by SE
yeah, i've tried arc and S2, playing around with them before finally diceded arc is better suited for me.
reasons :
- the scroling animation seems to be faster, and it was still with 2.3.2 fw.
- the design.. arc owns s2. s2 is big, fat, and box like. arc is more sexy
- it's a sony, they have good camera reputation, i previously own a k750i
Also id like to add.
The first batch of xperia Arcs are not so great build quality.
I had one, since April, the back made noises, and the buttons got stuck. Camera button was really stiff.
Now that could just of been a one off.
But i recently got a replacement and i have to say this handset feels alot better.
All the problems are gone which i had before.
I actually really enjoy this phone.
It's really nice to hold. I find it fast for my needs.
Which is mostly, emailing, calls, texts and Internet.
A few games which all run smoothly.
Even the more top end games like galaxy on fire 2 runs fine.
I use SwiftKey, which I don't think I could live without now.
It's a amazing keyboard.
I used to like sense, had it on my htc hero.
Looking back at it now, it looks and feels bad.
I used to love it.
They are so much more home screen replacements that do things better.
I don't use the default sonyericsson home.. Why,,, well I don't like it.
What I'm saying is if there is something that you don't like. I'm sure they are a replacement in the market to fill your needs.
I also think htc phones all look the same, boring design in my eyes.
As for battery life all depends on screen brightness, down to how much you use it.
Mine lasts easy a whole day at work.
Also have to hand it to sonyericsson they have keep the updates coming for this device. It's a real treat to receive so many improvements.
You should choose the ARC. With the latest 2.3.3 FW (Generic UK) the phone is fastest, battery life is the best. After about 5 charges (my phone) with moderate use battery lasts abour 40 hours; Heavy use - 10-12 hours; constant use - I managed to get about 5 hours with Wi-Fi, BT, GPS, Auto-Sync on at 75% Brightness. As for internal memory... there is included app2sd with the phone. Any phone has bloatware, things you don't want, you don't need... so root is not actualy modding. I'm also from Romania, Bucharest, I have an Arc and i'm very happy with my choice. Hope you will be with yours. Cheers
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Well, the fact is that I don't really want to mod my next phone. I want to buy a phone that's good as it is.
The only reason I modded my P500 is becuase it's crappy with the stock ROM.
About Sense UI: it's something I really like (although many people say it's just visual crap), we have 2 sense ROMs ported to P500 but sadly GSM doesn't work (those were the ROMs I was looking most forward to). The Arc's UI is pretty elegant but I don't like the fact that it's pretty poor in colors (I like colourful icons on black backgrounds). And I really hate the fact that it's missing smart dialling, that's a feature I use all the time. But there's no perfect device.
@crimilde: I don't want the SGS2; in my opinion, an expensive phone must have a high quality housing to justify its money and the SGS2 is made out of crappy plastic. For me the build quality is very important and I don't want to spend 1600RON on a crappy-plastic toy.
Thanks for your help, my 5 thanks per day limit kicked in on this thread )
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What and the Arc's plastic is high quality, the crack problem would seem to put that in doubt. Speaking as an Arc owner I do not expect the front fascia to crack after only about three months, especially for the money paid. The GS2 plastic is pretty darn tough & at least I haven't read reports of it cracking.
I think I'll buy the Sensation afterall. I'm gonna get a bigger contract because I need more traffic and I'll get the Sensation for 210eur. Or I'll change my mind again, I can never know )
Thanks very much for your help
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I hope you are prepared for this kind of problems in HTC Sensation
but i think if you are going to get HTC Sensation XE, these problems are fixed
Goodluck!
The Xperia Arc is definitely better than the sensation in my opinion..
the sensation has a dualcore yeah and the arc just a single-core, but there is no OS out there that supports dualcore yet. so i would go for the xperia arc when it comes to user experience!
Well I got the Sensation afterall
About the display issue: a friend has the Sensation and he has but problems, phones in shop displays don't have problems, in fact I never met anybody with display issues. If it happens to me, well, tough luck
The deathgrip issues don't bother me, I never hold my phone that way.
Yes, I know that for now there's no real support for dual-core phones, but there will be starting with ICS and I bought this phone to keep it for at least 1 year and dual-core is the future. I was afraid that single core phones will soon be left behind...
In a way I regret the Arc, it's an awesome phone and a classy device but in another way I don't, for now I love this phone. And if I don't like it I can always exchange it with another phone, this is a pretty expensive device, so I have many options.
Thanks again very much for all your help!
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You might wanna wait for Sensation XE with Beats Audio the death grip issues are resolved in that model .. It has much better audio performance and speed,
Edit: Oops you already got it. Congrats Mate.
I think the latest Android Revolution HD ROM has all the features from the new Sensation including "overclock" to 1.5GHz.
Sensation's CPU is a 1.5GHz dualcore but HTC downclocked it to 1.2GHz from what I've heart.
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I think the latest Android Revolution HD ROM has all the features from the new Sensation including "overclock" to 1.5GHz.
Sensation's CPU is a 1.5GHz dualcore but HTC downclocked it to 1.2GHz from what I've heart.
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Yep, that's true, it's underclocked. But HTC will release an update which brings 1.5ghz. Btw, I played a YouTube 1080p clip and it worked very nice (after the 2.3.4 update and flash player update).
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Currently owner of Sony Ericsson Live with Walkman, however I feel the phone is too small for me with its 3.2 inch screen.
I went to look for a phone with bigger screen, not in a way-too-high price class. Xperia Arc S got my attention there. It's performance is a bit better with the processor, firmware is the same(4.0.4) as my LWW etc.
Xperia S was also an idea, but the price is also a lot higher. Xperia U has really limited storage. And I really would prefer Android.
How is the screen in sunlight? Quality of the screen and sound(headphones and loudspeaker)? The actual performance? Camera quality(dark, light)? Battery life on stock firmware? Are there any known bugs/problems with the phone/firmware?
My question is - Would you recommend Arc S or are there any other phones in this price class, that are better?
If Arc S, then which color suits the best for it?
EDIT: Also, forgot to mention, that the shop where I am going to buy a new phone from, has quite limited selection, so post more ideas for other phones, incase it is needed.
First...what is the price of the arc s at ur country? At my country it cost about ~RM1100, which is around ~USD320
If its kinda this price, i recomend looking for a phone with 1gb of ram with the almost near price...
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First...what is the price of the arc s at ur country? At my country it cost about ~RM1100, which is around ~USD320
If its kinda this price, i recomend looking for a phone with 1gb of ram with the almost near price...
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329 euros, Estonia.
I didn't notice any phones with 1GB RAM in that price class.
screen under sunlight is good..if u have some screen guard on then only u might face lil problem..but for me its good visibility under the Mighty Sun
Screen is sharp and with lil sound enhancement pack, audio quality will be damn good on earphones.
Camera quality of our arc s is just awesome ..i have SGS2 and i can say it is better than that
Arc s price has dropped alot and at this price i think it is a very good deal..only problem is the RAM
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screen under sunlight is good..if u have some screen guard on then only u might face lil problem..but for me its good visibility under the Mighty Sun
Screen is sharp and with lil sound enhancement pack, audio quality will be damn good on earphones.
Camera quality of our arc s is just awesome ..i have SGS2 and i can say it is better than that
Arc s price has dropped alot and at this price i think it is a very good deal..only problem is the RAM
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My LWW has currently also 512MB of RAM, multitasking was not very good, however with the newest 4.0.4 update, that I recently got, it is not that bad and feels fine for my regular usage.
I have rooted my phone's stock firmware and threw out some unneeded stuff, so that firmware would be running clean. I do not think, that the difference between these 2 phones' firmware would be too high.
How is the audio quality via loudspeaker? My LWW has 2 loudspeakers, quality is great and volume is just loud, phone and it's screen is a bit too small, probably gonna miss these speakers
audio output is good...well not as good as walkman..but it is very good..it doesnt shout with high volume which results in high pitch sound..all i can say is it is good ..
u need to hear it out urself only..we cant describe it
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audio output is good...well not as good as walkman..but it is very good..it doesnt shout with high volume which results in high pitch sound..all i can say is it is good ..
u need to hear it out urself only..we cant describe it
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I will go to a nearby shop when I have time, just to try out the Arc S, how big it really feels etc.
I also saw quite a nice selection of custom stuff for it
Oh, and battery life, how long can you make with regular usage? Any of you using extended batteries?
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I will go to a nearby shop when I have time, just to try out the Arc S, how big it really feels etc.
I also saw quite a nice selection of custom stuff for it
Oh, and battery life, how long can you make with regular usage? Any of you using extended batteries?
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It's difficult to answer your question about battery life. It depends on ROM/Kernel/Baseband...
As for me, battery life of Arc S is awesome!
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It's difficult to answer your question about battery life. It depends on ROM/Kernel/Baseband...
As for me, battery life of Arc S is awesome!
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Which ROM/kernel/BB are you using and how long you get?
i get 3 days easily with normal usage with Arconium ICS.. normal usage means texting,few calls and lil 3G data thats all..i am sure with lil more usage you may get atleast 40 hrs
That's a lot better than my Live with Walkman, it has 1200 mAh, but with my usage I can barely get 1,5 days from it. Maximum with no usage was for me 2 days.
Seems like Arc S is a great choice so far, neither could I find any other phones from the shop website, either less phones on the website than in shop or really not so much to choose from. Need to sell my Live with Walkman now first.
u can also consider xperia P as the price of xperia p and arc s is almost same..xperia P has 1Gb of RAM..well screen is lil small but manageable
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u can also consider xperia P as the price of xperia p and arc s is almost same..xperia P has 1Gb of RAM..well screen is lil small but manageable
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0.2 inch difference with screen isn't that bad.
Xperia P seems great, however the battery is quite weak.
Try reading in the xperia s forum regarding xperia p. I read that the battery is not bad..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1656649
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Try reading in the xperia s forum regarding xperia p. I read that the battery is not bad..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1656649
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I see quite a lot of different answers and opinions about battery, some say with heavy usage it is in 2 hours empty, others say they can get 1,5 days with it with normal usage.
Some say, that they can't get more than 12 hours out of it, some say they can get same as Arc...
If I only could try it myself for some time...
Samsung galaxy s advance got better specs than arc s but with 5 MP camera but rest are pretty cool and its same price as arc s maybe less cheaper
I reckon you can get a better phone for the price right now, perhaps a second hand SGS2 would be good for you. Arc S is really starting to get laggy except if you flash an AOKP/CM9 ROM ( My opinion ) and the specs in terms of processor + ram is outdated
However, beautiful design, really nice in the hand, really nice screen (amazing what sony did with it). Fairly large and a great camera
better go for xperia P man...i know it is fat..but it is faster..our sexy arc is still sexy but had become old
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I reckon you can get a better phone for the price right now, perhaps a second hand SGS2 would be good for you. Arc S is really starting to get laggy except if you flash an AOKP/CM9 ROM ( My opinion ) and the specs in terms of processor + ram is outdated
However, beautiful design, really nice in the hand, really nice screen (amazing what sony did with it). Fairly large and a great camera
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The thing is, that I am able to get a phone a lot cheaper from a certain shop, that is the only reason why I want to get one with bigger screen.
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better go for xperia P man...i know it is fat..but it is faster..our sexy arc is still sexy but had become old
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Will take a look, if it is really available in the shop and if it inside the max price I am able to pay. It is great phone indeed.
One advantage of sony smartphones is the well structured GUI. It looks simple and clear but I think a Galaxy S II/III/Nexus is better in user experience.
My arc (overclocked to 1.6 GHz, CM9 ICS) is slow and gets overextended in e.g. multi-tasking. every time i have to wait several seconds (or minutes ) until it finished loading. maybe you think "i don't care" but after several times you just go crazy. Furthermore, the internal storage isn't so large. Just install some no-app2sd-apps and you'll have a problem...
However, go to your next electrical retailer and "play" with some smartphones. Take a closer look on multitasking performance, smoothness of the GUI and loading time when you start a game (I recommend to test: Galaxy S II/III/Nexus, Xperia S/P). you'll know if you find your smartphone .
Hey guys, I recently posted a link where the Carphonewharehouse were offering the P6 for £239.95 which is a steal! it was on sale for no longer then 2 weeks and it went up too £309.95, to me this seems like a lot of money for a phone that is in a mid range market, you can get the Galaxy S3 for £290 brand new
I know its made out of aluminum and its thin and beautiful, but it doesnt compete with the likes of the Galaxy S3 in benchmarks ( I do prefer the P6 though, due to its smooth UI and thin body )
I then noticed you can get some of todays top flagship phones for around the same price
HTC One - £290-£360 depending on condition
Xperia Z £265 - £300 depending on condition
Galaxy S4 - £300 - £360 depending on conditon
What do you guys think? There processors, Displays and build quality are all better and are this years specs where as the P6's are last years.
Im debating weather or not to get the Xperia Z or HTC One over the P6 just because they have 1080p displays and better processors, but then the P6 calls to me because of the smooth UI and thinness
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JackHanAnLG said:
Hey guys, I recently posted a link where the Carphonewharehouse were offering the P6 for £239.95 which is a steal! it was on sale for no longer then 2 weeks and it went up too £309.95, to me this seems like a lot of money for a phone that is in a mid range market, you can get the Galaxy S3 for £290 brand new
I know its made out of aluminum and its thin and beautiful, but it doesnt compete with the likes of the Galaxy S3 in benchmarks ( I do prefer the P6 though, due to its smooth UI and thin body )
I then noticed you can get some of todays top flagship phones for around the same price
HTC One - £290-£360 depending on condition
Xperia Z £265 - £300 depending on condition
Galaxy S4 - £300 - £360 depending on conditon
What do you guys think? There processors, Displays and build quality are all better and are this years specs where as the P6's are last years.
Im debating weather or not to get the Xperia Z or HTC One over the P6 just because they have 1080p displays and better processors, but then the P6 calls to me because of the smooth UI and thinness
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From personal experience Ascend P6 > Xperia Z, except if you want the LTE and the water-restance on your phone.
purplexed9 said:
From personal experience Ascend P6 > Xperia Z, except if you want the LTE and the water-restance on your phone.
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The xperia z definitely got better specs, but its huge! p6 is more one hand and pocket friendly
I have my P6 since 2 weeks, before I had a galaxy s2. After the P6, my old Galaxy S2 feels so cheap.
At first I want a HTC one, but the feeling of it wasnt so nice as the P6.
Personally I think benchmark are not representative about the Perfomence of the Device. I choose the P6 because I dont play huge games like Real Racing or Modern Combat, I play games like Temple Run or Hill Climp Racing. The P6 runs very smooth, and the Battery life is awesome.
I had the same debate before buying. But i wasn't into S3 which my dad uses and i simply don't like Samsung UI anymore, nor the size. And i don't like the Xperia Z either in terms of size. My contender was with the Xperia ZR. But for several personal reasons i didn't go for it :
1) although i found it for lesser price in many online shops, yet on the ground market in my place, it was way higher by 140$. So not really an immediate buy.
2) The phone doesn't feel or look as great or premium as the p6
3) I got no use with those bravia engines or gaming performance because i don't really watch movies or play powerful games on the mobile. (there is talk that gaming problems are because of optimization and can be fixed)
4) I have used the Sony interface on other mobiles and also my brothers new xperia z ultra and to me it was like the same old empty-ish Sony interface with some very minute changes, hence i felt i would be quickly bored by it. While the P6 instead has a difference experience with plenty of simple but smart features, at least for me.
At the end of the day, it all depends upon what exactly would you use your phone most for. Both has it pros and cons and you'd have to make the choice depending on what cons you would be able to tolerate.
warea said:
I had the same debate before buying. But i wasn't into S3 which my dad uses and i simply don't like Samsung UI anymore, nor the size. And i don't like the Xperia Z either in terms of size. My contender was with the Xperia ZR. But for several personal reasons i didn't go for it :
1) although i found it for lesser price in many online shops, yet on the ground market in my place, it was way higher by 140$. So not really an immediate buy.
2) The phone doesn't feel or look as great or premium as the p6
3) I got no use with those bravia engines or gaming performance because i don't really watch movies or play powerful games on the mobile. (there is talk that gaming problems are because of optimization and can be fixed)
4) I have used the Sony interface on other mobiles and also my brothers new xperia z ultra and to me it was like the same old empty-ish Sony interface with some very minute changes, hence i felt i would be quickly bored by it. While the P6 instead has a difference experience with plenty of simple but smart features, at least for me.
At the end of the day, it all depends upon what exactly would you use your phone most for. Both has it pros and cons and you'd have to make the choice depending on what cons you would be able to tolerate.
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I still have to go with the P6, Ive watched so many videos of the smooth and customizable UI, it just has everything that my Galaxy S3 doesnt, especially the build quality, metal over plastic anyday for me.
I just cant get over the price £309.95 when it was £239.95, you could argue and get a Nexus 4 with change to spare. I might just have to buy a pre owned P6 just to get over that price tag
p6 all the way .. that thickness.. mmm very slim .. can be smartphone be even slimmer?
GalaxySIIII said:
p6 all the way .. that thickness.. mmm very slim .. can be smartphone be even slimmer?
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Huawei said that they could have made it thinner but the 3.5mm headphone jack is a industry standard and thats why that cant make it thinner, although they could make a 2.55mm headphone jack and make specific earphones that are included to have a smaller pin?
Or make an adapter thats smaller ?
to be fair i like how slim it is now, i wouldnt want it any slimmer
JackHanAnLG said:
Huawei said that they could have made it thinner but the 3.5mm headphone jack is a industry standard and thats why that cant make it thinner, although they could make a 2.55mm headphone jack and make specific earphones that are included to have a smaller pin?
Or make an adapter thats smaller ?
to be fair i like how slim it is now, i wouldnt want it any slimmer
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aah alright .. i think android requires that 3.5 yes .. there are jacks even smaller yes but android industry prob wont allow that..
there are even bigger audio jacks for 2.5 , 3.5 and 6.36 for guitars or guitar speakers etc.. theoretically they COULD use 2.5 mm jack hmm .. we could find out..
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I had (still have) a Sony Xperia Z, but didn't much care for it. No specific reason, it just failed to inspire me. The P6 I think is superb. Best 'phone I've had since my HTC HD Mini.
Long before the HD Mini, I had a Samsung XGH-X820, then classed as the world's thinnest 'phone (there is a theme here) being only 6.9mm at it's narrowest and it had a long connector for the headphones that might have doubled for the charging socket. I presume Samsung fitted this to enable them to make the 'phone thinner. Of course, to use anything other than the supplied headphones, you needed an adaptor. As the 'phone only had around 80Mb of memory and getting media on and off was a nightmare, this never became much of a problem.
Hi, it's been some time I own this beauty, but since it bends hardly and the battery shut down a lot, I would like to change. But I can't decide myself
I was looking for XPerf or XZ, but they don't look really awesome..
5'5" is a nice size, 16Mpx min for good pic's, a Micro SD slot (200Gb) and a decent battery needed.
I'm also searching for the best music system, I really love the HighRes music (combined with a vinyl reader PS-HX500 it's so useful), so if all the Sony enhancement could be ported that'd be great
Any ideas ? f*ck budget soon it's Christmas
The V20?
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thats a tough one!
if i were you! i would have tried ONEPLUS 3 , or waited for ONEPLUS4
I agree with LG V20, they also have good DAC.. but 5.7" display is too big for me..
Moto Z force also interesting, but I dont know about the music..
After sell my Z5P, i tried Samsung Galaxy S7 and LG G5 before buy HTC 10.
I can recommend it to everyone who needs stability, superb sound, +++ build quality, nice display and pocket friendliness/ergonomics.
LG brand f.u.c.k.e.d because have not custom and root amd recovery
I have g5 and ......oh ****
I've been on the Z's family for years
I bought my first z1 on a trip in NY, then the Z2... the z3 for my wife and then z5p for my wife too. I switched back to HTC. Now I'm on htc 10, its a great hard, great dev. and is more difficult to scratch/break.
I still have the Z2, I changed the screen 2 times and the back panel like 8 or 9 times, now, I just glued all with silicone and I have a nice transparent cellphone that will no break
Anyway. HTC its great.
Thanks everybody!
I bought.... A Xperia.... Z.... 5..... Premium
Haha! So you didn't change?
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