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[Q] Arc or Neo

Hi All !
I'm just about to get new phone and decided it to be SE. I love Arc but also like Neo cuz is smaler and fit better in pocket but i have few concerns.
Image quality - is it same as Arc's ?
Speed - is it as fast as Arc ?
and because smaler screen will battery life be better ?
Regards
Marek

Read here:
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=200485&start=420
Pics quality AFAIK is a bit worse than Arc.
Personally I would take Arc.

Both handsets use exactly the same camera module, so the quality of the photos they take should be broadly similar.
Obviously every individual handset will vary slightly, not every Arc will perform exactly the same but there's no reason why the Neo should be any worse than the Arc.
Same goes for speed, both handsets use the same CPU/SoC and have the same amount of RAM.
As for battery life, I doubt there'll be much difference.
Yes the Neo has a smaller screen and that's an advantage but it's not a colossal size difference.

What's the difference between Neo and Ray?

The Ray has a smaller screen and an aluminium body.
All three (Arc, Neo and Ray) use basically the same hardware.

I would choose Ray over Neo because Ray looks stunning.

ray will be available in August and i like neo.
Q: why Neo screen is not as good as Arc's ? apart from size what specs are different ?

mareq78 said:
Q: why Neo screen is not as good as Arc's ? apart from size what specs are different ?
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Who says it's not as good?
It's the same tech, just a smaller panel - which means it has a better pixel density.

I was reading few reviews and apparently Neo screen is not as bright as Arc screen.

I don't know what reviews you've been reading but GSMArena's measurements of the two screens have the Neo's display as brighter than the Arc's.

for me, Arc is the best one. I'm still don't know with Neo...

Get the arc... It's beautiful and has a premium look . I am very happy with it. Great headphone quality too . You will love it for sure
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Arc for it's looks and only that...other same sized AND priced phones out there that have twice the ram and double the cores.
Neo for size, front facing camera, and hdmi out (that looks terrible on big screen)
Ray for front facing camera and portability with power. Ray gets my vote!

i got Neo and i very happy with it ! lovely phone !

[Q] Xperia PLAY vs Xperia ARC !!!

Hello!
Please tell me which games are there which I can't play on ARC while I can on PLAY?
Please name such games if you can.
I am about to buy any one of these tommorrow, and don't know which to prefer; here is a little comparison, please correct me if I am wrong and also mention something I might have missed;
ARC :
Great body design
Great body material
Great Camera
Poor sound
No gaming Pad
Larger Screen
Not so good Web experience
Not so good Touch Interface
Radio
PLAY :
Average body design
Poor body material
Average Camera
Great sound
Gaming Pad
Average Screen
Great Web Experience
Great Touch experience
No Radio
Also tell me is there any difference between them as far as the user experience is concerned, I mean any application or function or anything that ARC has and Play don't or vice versa?
How much do they differ as far as the browsing experience is concerned?
So far Arc is winning, I guess, but now it all depends upon the games. That's is why I am contacting you all. I mean I am interested in Star Battalion and Asphalt (which from what I know can be played on ARC), and not much interested in Crash Bandicot.
Please reply soon.
Thanks in advance.

Kinda answered your own question personally think the play is only good for gamers so if it doesnt intrest you better off with the arc play dev is moving along slowly right now but hopefully pick up soon
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Why is the web experience and touch experience not so good on the arc and good on the play? I don't think they are different because you don't slide the pad for web and it all comes down to screen. If any the arc should be better because it has a bigger screen, unless I'm missing something.
I wouldn't call the screen on the play average, more like large and larger for the arc.
Personally I'd trade my Play for an Arc today because I like more the camera than playing games and yet I find myself playing a lot more than before (when I didn't have a gamepad).
I think you should divide pros/cons for each device so it'll be easier to weight it. After all I believe between those 2 it comes down to: better camera - better gaming experience.

You didn't take weight into account ? I went from a Galaxy S to a Xperia Play and that is the major downside I experienced. Otherwise, I like the Play.

The battery is surprisingly heavy
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The battery is surprisingly heavy
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At 1500mAh it's gonna be heavy compared to the batteries in a lot of other phones.
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I have never played with the Arc, and I always liked slim phones (Samsung) over the bulky ones (Nokia), however I just migrated from Samsung Jet to Xperia Play... and wow... is a big step up...in weight (and pretty much every other aspect), anyway you get used to it pretty soon, now everytime I get a hold of a slimmer phone (Galaxy S, LG Black, Galaxy Ace) I feel kind of girly... (no offense intended).
Me - Xperia PLAY - Man phone
My GF - LG 970 Black (white) - Girl Phone
They actually make a cute phone couple hehehe

I traded my arc for a play and i couldnt be happier , the arc continually rebooted even when doing normal tasks like texting !!
The battery is rubbish , the screen is pretty good but not as good as i expected
but at the end of the day i like gaming so the play is always going to be better in my eyes

The screen is reallly good on the arc
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Xperia Arc or Sensation? Help me decide...

Hi
I want to change my phone, and I simply cannot decide.
At Vodafone RO, the Arc would cost me 235eur and the Sensation 290eur.
What I want from a phone: decent battery life (I want it to last a day with web browsing); great display: I want a big and high-quality display; good looks and high quality build; decent performance: smooth web browsing, smooth UI but I don't care about gaming performance or 1080p video shooting/playback.
I played with both phones, but never had one for a few days. I noticed that the Sensation is not so fast, actually in some circumstances it's pretty slow; something bugging me at Sensation: closed all running apps and the remaining RAM was still 150mb; tried it with 3 different devices and read about this in a review. Plus, I saw that the web-browsing battery life is lower than Arc's.
What bothers me most about the Arc: the 320mb internal memory; as I know from my P500 (~150mb internal), the memory fills pretty fast...
So my question is: is the not-so-fast Sensation worth over the single-core wonderful-looking Arc? I really want objective opinions and I want to know how's the Arc in real-life, please

Hi There,
I have the Arc, when i bought i also looked at the Sensation and S2..
I use the Arc a fair bit for web browsing and instant messaging and I have to be honest and say i would struggle to get the day out of it. I usually find myself topping it up at my PC during the day. I would only imaging the Sensation is worse though. I had a HTC Desire before the Arc and it drained a lot quicker than the Arc and ran a lot hotter. A few niggles I find with the Arc -
1) Keyboard entry - for some reason its not always 100% accurate.. this improves if i clean the screen so could be down to the screen protector thats factory fitted to the Arc
2) Reboot times - no consistency with my Arc - could be 30 seconds could be 2 minutes
3) I have seem some slowdowns screen redraws slowly etc but nothing that would be put me off using the phone.
Anyway they are my negatives - there are plenty of positives but im sure you are aware of those already
Cheers,
Mick

I also looked at the sensation and desire s but after using my stepdads desire s and my brothers sensation I settled for the arc, I use it heavily for web browsing and some gaming during the day and mine lasts from about 8am til around 11pm the screen is very sharp and clear as im sure youve noticed
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One advantage of Xperia arc is that it is recently rooted and you will witness everything from the first succesful rom (CM7) which is coming soon to many custom roms. Basically you will witness xperia arc's developer timeline

I bought an arc in June, and afterwards I had the chance to fiddle a bit with a friend's Sensation. I have to say, I was not that impressed with the latter.
The display is not that great and the overall build quality seems much poorer than other non-HTC phones.
For example, after barely one month of use, my friend's Sensation had the colour faded on the housing at the corners, so it have off a really cheap plastic feeling. He also managed to drop it once to the floor from ~1m and it had a nice dent on the edge...
Whereas my arc still looks brand new! I also dropped it a few times but no visible marks were left.
The only thing I'm a bit disappointed in is the screen. Sony Ericsson say it's scratch resistant, but it's not Gorilla glass. A little extra care is required. Or a screen protector, for that matter.
Overall, I'm glad I got an arc. Rooted, OC'd to 1.6GHz and with v6Supercharger script running, it's lightning fast and smooth, it doesn't lag (and I'm quite a heavy multitasker) and even after ~150 uptime hours, I still have around 150MB of free RAM.
So if you're happy with a single-core, I definitely recommend the arc. If you want dual, the Galaxy S II is the best choice, in my opinion.

Hello,
You said good display, I definately reccomend Arc, I was today comparing display with Optimus 2x ( I know it's not Sensation) and image at arc got crispness and it shows ALOT better darker colours image is brighter(or got more contrast)-i dont know.
Although O2x got higher illuminated screen. And I dont think that S-LCD is better than just LCD.
About battery in Sensation I've read that HTC set battery to charge to 80% (it will show 100%) for security reasons, and more lifetime. It's possible to fix it.

Ive tried both and they both have the pros and cons but i still love the arc for what its worth. HTC just includes alot of widgets and animation. I think that is why alot of people like there phones.

Well, the fact is that I don't really want to mod my next phone. I want to buy a phone that's good as it is.
The only reason I modded my P500 is becuase it's crappy with the stock ROM.
About Sense UI: it's something I really like (although many people say it's just visual crap), we have 2 sense ROMs ported to P500 but sadly GSM doesn't work (those were the ROMs I was looking most forward to). The Arc's UI is pretty elegant but I don't like the fact that it's pretty poor in colors (I like colourful icons on black backgrounds). And I really hate the fact that it's missing smart dialling, that's a feature I use all the time. But there's no perfect device.
@crimilde: I don't want the SGS2; in my opinion, an expensive phone must have a high quality housing to justify its money and the SGS2 is made out of crappy plastic. For me the build quality is very important and I don't want to spend 1600RON on a crappy-plastic toy.
Thanks for your help, my 5 thanks per day limit kicked in on this thread )

Well I used to have a Desire and rooted and installed numerous custom roms.
My 2 penneth... with the Sensation there will soon be numerous roms and you will be able to sort out any battery issues. The screen isn't as good as the Arc BUT when app devs start to take advantage of dual core you'll see the benefits.
I ultimately went for the Arc as the screen is fantastic, battery life is pretty good (of course you should use auto screen brightness as well as oother power tweaks to get more than 1 days usage - I can get more than I could with my desire)
For those talking about keyboard accuracy, just install the gingerbread keyboard from the market and your accuracy probs will be sorted.
Ultimately my advice, go for the Arc, looks great, is fast enough and the screen is brilliant (oh and audio is good too)
Hope this helps!
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micks_address said:
Hi There,
I have the Arc, when i bought i also looked at the Sensation and S2..
I use the Arc a fair bit for web browsing and instant messaging and I have to be honest and say i would struggle to get the day out of it. I usually find myself topping it up at my PC during the day. I would only imaging the Sensation is worse though. I had a HTC Desire before the Arc and it drained a lot quicker than the Arc and ran a lot hotter. A few niggles I find with the Arc -
1) Keyboard entry - for some reason its not always 100% accurate.. this improves if i clean the screen so could be down to the screen protector thats factory fitted to the Arc
2) Reboot times - no consistency with my Arc - could be 30 seconds could be 2 minutes
3) I have seem some slowdowns screen redraws slowly etc but nothing that would be put me off using the phone.
Anyway they are my negatives - there are plenty of positives but im sure you are aware of those already
Cheers,
Mick
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keyboard entry was a problem from x10, i think they have fixed it for the arc(x12). so far it seems to be fine. try update to the latest fw.
i apply another screen protection on top of the factory default screen protector. it doesn't bother me with the input at all.
i recommend to put another screen protection, couse the factory default screen protector is a little bit tricky to replace.
about batery life, it improves a lot after around 10 full-cycle charges. when i first bought it, it rarely past 24 hour. updated to the latest fw, deleted unwanted bloadware, and optimize batery setting (brightness, timeout time, etc) and now :
it can past 48 hours with normal use (texting, little gaming and wifi)
it can past 24 hours with moderate use (fare gaming and wifi)
it can past 12 hours with heavy use (lots of gaming and wifi)
ps. i use live wallpaper all the time, couse static wallpaper is boring
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Well, the fact is that I don't really want to mod my next phone. I want to buy a phone that's good as it is.
The only reason I modded my P500 is becuase it's crappy with the stock ROM.
@crimilde: I don't want the SGS2; in my opinion, an expensive phone must have a high quality housing to justify its money and the SGS2 is made out of crappy plastic. For me the build quality is very important and I don't want to spend 1600RON on a crappy-plastic toy.
Thanks for your help, my 5 thanks per day limit kicked in on this thread )
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well, i still haven't mod my arc, still impressed with the oficial fw updates by SE
yeah, i've tried arc and S2, playing around with them before finally diceded arc is better suited for me.
reasons :
- the scroling animation seems to be faster, and it was still with 2.3.2 fw.
- the design.. arc owns s2. s2 is big, fat, and box like. arc is more sexy
- it's a sony, they have good camera reputation, i previously own a k750i

Also id like to add.
The first batch of xperia Arcs are not so great build quality.
I had one, since April, the back made noises, and the buttons got stuck. Camera button was really stiff.
Now that could just of been a one off.
But i recently got a replacement and i have to say this handset feels alot better.
All the problems are gone which i had before.
I actually really enjoy this phone.
It's really nice to hold. I find it fast for my needs.
Which is mostly, emailing, calls, texts and Internet.
A few games which all run smoothly.
Even the more top end games like galaxy on fire 2 runs fine.
I use SwiftKey, which I don't think I could live without now.
It's a amazing keyboard.
I used to like sense, had it on my htc hero.
Looking back at it now, it looks and feels bad.
I used to love it.
They are so much more home screen replacements that do things better.
I don't use the default sonyericsson home.. Why,,, well I don't like it.
What I'm saying is if there is something that you don't like. I'm sure they are a replacement in the market to fill your needs.
I also think htc phones all look the same, boring design in my eyes.
As for battery life all depends on screen brightness, down to how much you use it.
Mine lasts easy a whole day at work.
Also have to hand it to sonyericsson they have keep the updates coming for this device. It's a real treat to receive so many improvements.

You should choose the ARC. With the latest 2.3.3 FW (Generic UK) the phone is fastest, battery life is the best. After about 5 charges (my phone) with moderate use battery lasts abour 40 hours; Heavy use - 10-12 hours; constant use - I managed to get about 5 hours with Wi-Fi, BT, GPS, Auto-Sync on at 75% Brightness. As for internal memory... there is included app2sd with the phone. Any phone has bloatware, things you don't want, you don't need... so root is not actualy modding. I'm also from Romania, Bucharest, I have an Arc and i'm very happy with my choice. Hope you will be with yours. Cheers

22VIN said:
Well, the fact is that I don't really want to mod my next phone. I want to buy a phone that's good as it is.
The only reason I modded my P500 is becuase it's crappy with the stock ROM.
About Sense UI: it's something I really like (although many people say it's just visual crap), we have 2 sense ROMs ported to P500 but sadly GSM doesn't work (those were the ROMs I was looking most forward to). The Arc's UI is pretty elegant but I don't like the fact that it's pretty poor in colors (I like colourful icons on black backgrounds). And I really hate the fact that it's missing smart dialling, that's a feature I use all the time. But there's no perfect device.
@crimilde: I don't want the SGS2; in my opinion, an expensive phone must have a high quality housing to justify its money and the SGS2 is made out of crappy plastic. For me the build quality is very important and I don't want to spend 1600RON on a crappy-plastic toy.
Thanks for your help, my 5 thanks per day limit kicked in on this thread )
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What and the Arc's plastic is high quality, the crack problem would seem to put that in doubt. Speaking as an Arc owner I do not expect the front fascia to crack after only about three months, especially for the money paid. The GS2 plastic is pretty darn tough & at least I haven't read reports of it cracking.

I think I'll buy the Sensation afterall. I'm gonna get a bigger contract because I need more traffic and I'll get the Sensation for 210eur. Or I'll change my mind again, I can never know )
Thanks very much for your help
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I hope you are prepared for this kind of problems in HTC Sensation
but i think if you are going to get HTC Sensation XE, these problems are fixed
Goodluck!

The Xperia Arc is definitely better than the sensation in my opinion..
the sensation has a dualcore yeah and the arc just a single-core, but there is no OS out there that supports dualcore yet. so i would go for the xperia arc when it comes to user experience!

Well I got the Sensation afterall
About the display issue: a friend has the Sensation and he has but problems, phones in shop displays don't have problems, in fact I never met anybody with display issues. If it happens to me, well, tough luck
The deathgrip issues don't bother me, I never hold my phone that way.
Yes, I know that for now there's no real support for dual-core phones, but there will be starting with ICS and I bought this phone to keep it for at least 1 year and dual-core is the future. I was afraid that single core phones will soon be left behind...
In a way I regret the Arc, it's an awesome phone and a classy device but in another way I don't, for now I love this phone. And if I don't like it I can always exchange it with another phone, this is a pretty expensive device, so I have many options.
Thanks again very much for all your help!
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You might wanna wait for Sensation XE with Beats Audio the death grip issues are resolved in that model .. It has much better audio performance and speed,
Edit: Oops you already got it. Congrats Mate.

I think the latest Android Revolution HD ROM has all the features from the new Sensation including "overclock" to 1.5GHz.
Sensation's CPU is a 1.5GHz dualcore but HTC downclocked it to 1.2GHz from what I've heart.
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I think the latest Android Revolution HD ROM has all the features from the new Sensation including "overclock" to 1.5GHz.
Sensation's CPU is a 1.5GHz dualcore but HTC downclocked it to 1.2GHz from what I've heart.
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Yep, that's true, it's underclocked. But HTC will release an update which brings 1.5ghz. Btw, I played a YouTube 1080p clip and it worked very nice (after the 2.3.4 update and flash player update).
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[Q] To buy or not - Xperia Arc S

Currently owner of Sony Ericsson Live with Walkman, however I feel the phone is too small for me with its 3.2 inch screen.
I went to look for a phone with bigger screen, not in a way-too-high price class. Xperia Arc S got my attention there. It's performance is a bit better with the processor, firmware is the same(4.0.4) as my LWW etc.
Xperia S was also an idea, but the price is also a lot higher. Xperia U has really limited storage. And I really would prefer Android.
How is the screen in sunlight? Quality of the screen and sound(headphones and loudspeaker)? The actual performance? Camera quality(dark, light)? Battery life on stock firmware? Are there any known bugs/problems with the phone/firmware?
My question is - Would you recommend Arc S or are there any other phones in this price class, that are better?
If Arc S, then which color suits the best for it?
EDIT: Also, forgot to mention, that the shop where I am going to buy a new phone from, has quite limited selection, so post more ideas for other phones, incase it is needed.

First...what is the price of the arc s at ur country? At my country it cost about ~RM1100, which is around ~USD320
If its kinda this price, i recomend looking for a phone with 1gb of ram with the almost near price...
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maliceomalice said:
First...what is the price of the arc s at ur country? At my country it cost about ~RM1100, which is around ~USD320
If its kinda this price, i recomend looking for a phone with 1gb of ram with the almost near price...
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329 euros, Estonia.
I didn't notice any phones with 1GB RAM in that price class.

screen under sunlight is good..if u have some screen guard on then only u might face lil problem..but for me its good visibility under the Mighty Sun
Screen is sharp and with lil sound enhancement pack, audio quality will be damn good on earphones.
Camera quality of our arc s is just awesome ..i have SGS2 and i can say it is better than that
Arc s price has dropped alot and at this price i think it is a very good deal..only problem is the RAM

arpith.fbi said:
screen under sunlight is good..if u have some screen guard on then only u might face lil problem..but for me its good visibility under the Mighty Sun
Screen is sharp and with lil sound enhancement pack, audio quality will be damn good on earphones.
Camera quality of our arc s is just awesome ..i have SGS2 and i can say it is better than that
Arc s price has dropped alot and at this price i think it is a very good deal..only problem is the RAM
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My LWW has currently also 512MB of RAM, multitasking was not very good, however with the newest 4.0.4 update, that I recently got, it is not that bad and feels fine for my regular usage.
I have rooted my phone's stock firmware and threw out some unneeded stuff, so that firmware would be running clean. I do not think, that the difference between these 2 phones' firmware would be too high.
How is the audio quality via loudspeaker? My LWW has 2 loudspeakers, quality is great and volume is just loud, phone and it's screen is a bit too small, probably gonna miss these speakers

audio output is good...well not as good as walkman..but it is very good..it doesnt shout with high volume which results in high pitch sound..all i can say is it is good ..
u need to hear it out urself only..we cant describe it

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audio output is good...well not as good as walkman..but it is very good..it doesnt shout with high volume which results in high pitch sound..all i can say is it is good ..
u need to hear it out urself only..we cant describe it
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I will go to a nearby shop when I have time, just to try out the Arc S, how big it really feels etc.
I also saw quite a nice selection of custom stuff for it
Oh, and battery life, how long can you make with regular usage? Any of you using extended batteries?

Someguyfromhell said:
I will go to a nearby shop when I have time, just to try out the Arc S, how big it really feels etc.
I also saw quite a nice selection of custom stuff for it
Oh, and battery life, how long can you make with regular usage? Any of you using extended batteries?
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It's difficult to answer your question about battery life. It depends on ROM/Kernel/Baseband...
As for me, battery life of Arc S is awesome!

thuanngotau said:
It's difficult to answer your question about battery life. It depends on ROM/Kernel/Baseband...
As for me, battery life of Arc S is awesome!
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Which ROM/kernel/BB are you using and how long you get?

i get 3 days easily with normal usage with Arconium ICS.. normal usage means texting,few calls and lil 3G data thats all..i am sure with lil more usage you may get atleast 40 hrs

That's a lot better than my Live with Walkman, it has 1200 mAh, but with my usage I can barely get 1,5 days from it. Maximum with no usage was for me 2 days.
Seems like Arc S is a great choice so far, neither could I find any other phones from the shop website, either less phones on the website than in shop or really not so much to choose from. Need to sell my Live with Walkman now first.

u can also consider xperia P as the price of xperia p and arc s is almost same..xperia P has 1Gb of RAM..well screen is lil small but manageable

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u can also consider xperia P as the price of xperia p and arc s is almost same..xperia P has 1Gb of RAM..well screen is lil small but manageable
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0.2 inch difference with screen isn't that bad.
Xperia P seems great, however the battery is quite weak.

Try reading in the xperia s forum regarding xperia p. I read that the battery is not bad..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1656649
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maliceomalice said:
Try reading in the xperia s forum regarding xperia p. I read that the battery is not bad..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1656649
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I see quite a lot of different answers and opinions about battery, some say with heavy usage it is in 2 hours empty, others say they can get 1,5 days with it with normal usage.
Some say, that they can't get more than 12 hours out of it, some say they can get same as Arc...
If I only could try it myself for some time...

Samsung galaxy s advance got better specs than arc s but with 5 MP camera but rest are pretty cool and its same price as arc s maybe less cheaper

I reckon you can get a better phone for the price right now, perhaps a second hand SGS2 would be good for you. Arc S is really starting to get laggy except if you flash an AOKP/CM9 ROM ( My opinion ) and the specs in terms of processor + ram is outdated
However, beautiful design, really nice in the hand, really nice screen (amazing what sony did with it). Fairly large and a great camera

better go for xperia P man...i know it is fat..but it is faster..our sexy arc is still sexy but had become old

dinesh690 said:
I reckon you can get a better phone for the price right now, perhaps a second hand SGS2 would be good for you. Arc S is really starting to get laggy except if you flash an AOKP/CM9 ROM ( My opinion ) and the specs in terms of processor + ram is outdated
However, beautiful design, really nice in the hand, really nice screen (amazing what sony did with it). Fairly large and a great camera
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The thing is, that I am able to get a phone a lot cheaper from a certain shop, that is the only reason why I want to get one with bigger screen.
arpith.fbi said:
better go for xperia P man...i know it is fat..but it is faster..our sexy arc is still sexy but had become old
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Will take a look, if it is really available in the shop and if it inside the max price I am able to pay. It is great phone indeed.

One advantage of sony smartphones is the well structured GUI. It looks simple and clear but I think a Galaxy S II/III/Nexus is better in user experience.
My arc (overclocked to 1.6 GHz, CM9 ICS) is slow and gets overextended in e.g. multi-tasking. every time i have to wait several seconds (or minutes ) until it finished loading. maybe you think "i don't care" but after several times you just go crazy. Furthermore, the internal storage isn't so large. Just install some no-app2sd-apps and you'll have a problem...
However, go to your next electrical retailer and "play" with some smartphones. Take a closer look on multitasking performance, smoothness of the GUI and loading time when you start a game (I recommend to test: Galaxy S II/III/Nexus, Xperia S/P). you'll know if you find your smartphone .

Xperia z vs Xperia ZL..A close comparison

Ok had a play with ZL and XZ in a local store..I am surprised by these things:
As we know most things about the XZ i wont go onto those points..rather ZL.
1. ZL is more brighter and better contrast than XZ..And no the values of calibration were set to 0 on ZL..i put up sony live wallpaper [purple] on both and ZL was visibly more brighter and vibrant!I Wonder what was sony thinking not giving its flagship that same screen? :/
2. Sound through headphones and speakers both were better on ZL..Dont know why? i can understand speakers bcoz of water proofing.
3. Easier to use due to small size and withe same size screen is a plus.
And alas i am confused :/ Dont wanna loose the build quality of XZ but want a brighter screen too!

Have any pictures that you can post for us?

randy_c said:
Have any pictures that you can post for us?
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I will be posing pictures and videos of mine in a few hours! Damn fedex didnt say it would had came yesterday doesnt even show on the tracking but they left a stupid note.

Does the little door on the back for the sim/micro sd make the phone look cheap cause you can see it and it doesn't 100% look flush? I'm on the fence because I haven't seen the phone and it might make it look/feel cheap because of this.

tenshi888 said:
Does the little door on the back for the sim/micro sd make the phone look cheap cause you can see it and it doesn't 100% look flush? I'm on the fence because I haven't seen the phone and it might make it look/feel cheap because of this.
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Nah, its perfect fit on mine (one needs to press the flap firmly to make it fit flush). And it only looks elegant to me (i like it better than glass back on XZ), not to mention the better (more comfortable) grip it provides esp. for single hand use wrt XZ. I would suggest you to go n have a look at it in person. Also, i find the overall build quality of XZL better than my Xperia S and far better than my Note 2 :good:!
P.S: I compared the ZL screen with two XZs and found that it (ZL) screen had better contrast/vibrance than one XZ but no discernible difference with another one. The internal speakers on ZL are louder than Z. Then there are other apparent differences (size, placement of front & back camera etc.). One thing that i'm really enjoying on ZL is the notification LED at the bottom, pretty awesome n unique imo :victory:!

Dpk1 said:
Nah, its perfect fit on mine (one needs to press the flap firmly to make it fit flush). And it only looks elegant to me (i like it better than glass back on XZ), not to mention the better (more comfortable) grip it provides esp. for single hand use wrt XZ. I would suggest you to go n have a look at it in person. Also, i find the overall build quality of XZL better than my Xperia S and far better than my Note 2 :good:!
P.S: I compared the ZL screen with two XZs and found that it (ZL) screen had better contrast/vibrance than one XZ but no discernible difference with another one. The internal speakers on ZL are louder than Z. Then there are other apparent differences (size, placement of front & back camera etc.). One thing that i'm really enjoying on ZL is the notification LED at the bottom, pretty awesome n unique imo :victory:!
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Thanks for the information, i do love the ZL at least on paper. How's the shutter key, is there a long delay in opening the camera app after pressing it? Finally, does the phone feel thick at 9.8? Thanks again!

tenshi888 said:
Thanks for the information, i do love the ZL at least on paper. How's the shutter key, is there a long delay in opening the camera app after pressing it? Finally, does the phone feel thick at 9.8? Thanks again!
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Shutter key is good (actually better than my Xperia S). It launches the camera app in 1-1.5 sceonds from sleep (i.e no delay imo). Once camera app is ready, pressing the shutter key zaps the image with no delay/lag. And no, the phone actually doesn't feel thick to me, maybe because of the curved back. My note2 felt thicker (at 9.4mm). XZ is slimmer but not as much as one would think compared to ZL (given 7.9mm vs 9.8mm).

tenshi888 said:
Does the little door on the back for the sim/micro sd make the phone look cheap cause you can see it and it doesn't 100% look flush? I'm on the fence because I haven't seen the phone and it might make it look/feel cheap because of this.
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yes it does look cheap as u can clearly see the gap as much as u push it in..it looks like an after jod..they shud have put it on the sides like the XZ.
And as far as looks and feel go u cant compare it to XZ..XZ just looks way more premium than ZL..ZL's front is great but the back looks cheap,,just holding the XZ makes u wanna take it home

ethan3686 said:
yes it does look cheap as u can clearly see the gap as much as u push it in..it looks like an after jod..they shud have put it on the sides like the XZ.
And as far as looks and feel go u cant compare it to XZ..XZ just looks way more premium than ZL..ZL's front is great but the back looks cheap,,just holding the XZ makes u wanna take it home
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Lol.. certainly not! The sim/sd card slot door/flap fits snugly and doesn't look odd as you state. To prefer matte or glossy back is personal choice but i don't think anything with nice matte finish could be considered cheap! XZ is a beautiful phone, but i'm not a big fan of glossy back as it gets dirty easily (and then really looks cheap ), not to mention the odd / uncomfortable grip while holding an edged flat slab. And i think the front of ZL has killer looks, much better than XZ especially with the screen on & superb LED at bottom (due to same 5" screen fit onto much smaller bezel.. go figure)!
About the premium look or feel, I feel both XZ & ZL possess the premium looks but ZL has better feel in hand, its again personal preference! Currently don't have my camera, so can't post some nice pics of my ZL now. But i managed these from web (see attachments).

ethan3686 said:
yes it does look cheap as u can clearly see the gap as much as u push it in..it looks like an after jod..they shud have put it on the sides like the XZ.
And as far as looks and feel go u cant compare it to XZ..XZ just looks way more premium than ZL..ZL's front is great but the back looks cheap,,just holding the XZ makes u wanna take it home
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I agree that Sony should have put the SD and SIM slots on the sides. The assflap design choice makes no sense to me. However, that said, the ZL feels as 'premium' as the Z does. Now I am not saying this just because I have the ZL. I could have as well bought the Z, but it gets really uncomfortable to hold with to flat surfaces. Play with both for some time and you'll see

If there's a brightness difference between them, there's probably a water/dust related coating on the Z screen that isn't on the ZL.

ok just a correction..What i had seen was a demo unit which [i dont know why] has less brightness and contrast..Saw a retail Xperia Z and its very bright and there is no difference in Z AND ZL...Sorry for my not having researched!

Hmmm great comparison you have! Anyway I really like the waterproofing feature from the Xperia ZL!

AndroidDude11 said:
Hmmm great comparison you have! Anyway I really like the waterproofing feature from the Xperia ZL!
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