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Razr M vs S3

I'm due for an upgrade in a month, is the Razr M still a good choice? Or should I spend the extra cash for the S3.

I'm very happy with the RAZR M and this is my fourth Motorola Droid. I like the smaller size phone, build quality is very good. I've read some complaints about the 4G signal not being as good as with other phones. In my experience I do notice it on 3G often but really don't pay much attention unless I'm using it as a hotspot. This is one of the best Android phones I've had.
I haven't tried the S3. My last experience with a Samsung phone wasn't good, it was a while ago so I really can't comment on the S3.
What's important to you? What are you using your phone to do? I don't watch movies, sometimes listen to music. Don't really play games on it either. I mostly use it for work calls, text, email, todo list and keeping track of where I'm spending my work time. Some browsing and navigation too.

It comes down to what you want. The S3 is large. The RAZR M is compact. Both have root exploits and all that, but the S3 does have more development so far. I love my M. I was on an S3 kick not too long ago but steered away when I saw some battery usage. I like going a full day with plenty juice to laugh. I'm sure it's achievable with an S3, but with my usage, it wasn't at that time. Both are great devices, and it's nice to have such a dilemma.
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Apples and oranges. S3 is a big ole phone (too big IMO) with a zillion added layers and features. For me there is no comparison. The S3 is big and gaudy in form and function, the M is sleek and simple in form and function. You may like the added features and if top notch camera performance is top priority you might prefer the S3 but the M has no significant flaws that stand out or would give me phone envy to anything out now. The M is built like a tank compared to the S3 as well.

Thanks for your input everyone. I plan to soon join you all in the RAZR M community
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This thread hasn't been active lately but just wanted to put it out there that I recently switched from the S3 to the Razr M and haven't looked back!
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If your are looking for something with more functionality and support , get the S3 . If small and compact with nothing special , get the RAZR M . Note that the RAZR M is a lot heavier than the S3 .
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I had an S3 and a Razr M at the same time....and I had to go with the Razr M, just for size purposes. I just could not get used to a larger phone like the S3 (after using it for about a week). Don't get me wrong, it was nice in practically all other aspects....but damn that is a large phone.

ChuckLezz said:
I had an S3 and a Razr M at the same time....and I had to go with the Razr M, just for size purposes. I just could not get used to a larger phone like the S3 (after using it for about a week). Don't get me wrong, it was nice in practically all other aspects....but damn that is a large phone.
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This thread is very helpful. I'm trying to decide between an S3 and the M. In some ways very much the same and in others they are very different.
Both have huge processing power and are fast. Same processors I thought but S3 has 1GB more ram. My guess would be that S3 will get more overall support from manufacturer and the ROM community since its a flagship phone.
The M being close to vanilla android though without hacking is nice. They did seam to give it Jelly Bean pretty quick. Quicker than most other phones...so maybe it will have a longer shelf life with Motorola.
The size is where we go in 2 different directions. I think after following the trend of going after bigger screens which is great for viewing purposes...I think I'm tired of my pocket being stuffed with a big phone. So the size might be whats influencing me to get an M.

My brother kept asking me what phone to get on an upgrade. He was a Blackberry user and given his history for having a phone work and last him for days, I told him to go to Razr Max. No other device I know has the battery life of this device.
I got to use and see the device in action. Very basic, despite it's carrier loaded apps. But what impressed me was the battery life. I'm still on GS2 gets the job done more development, but the battery of Razr Max can't be matched. I was impressed.

I've been loving mine. I went from a Galaxy Nexus, which I found to have pretty terrible battery life to this.
I found myself going into a VZW store one day and noticing the phone. I didn't like the narrowing edges of the previous RAZRs, but this one was different. Even after trying out the iPhone 5, the Rezound, and a few others, I found myself back in the next couple of days to check it out again. Within a week later, I bought the phone.
I'm having that phone itch again now, but I keep finding myself trying to find a device with great battery life. I've settled on a Note 2 for my phone-itch, but the $700 price tag on VZW is holding me back.

pez910 said:
I've been loving mine. I went from a Galaxy Nexus, which I found to have pretty terrible battery life to this.
I found myself going into a VZW store one day and noticing the phone. I didn't like the narrowing edges of the previous RAZRs, but this one was different. Even after trying out the iPhone 5, the Rezound, and a few others, I found myself back in the next couple of days to check it out again. Within a week later, I bought the phone.
I'm having that phone itch again now, but I keep finding myself trying to find a device with great battery life. I've settled on a Note 2 for my phone-itch, but the $700 price tag on VZW is holding me back.
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The RAZR M really stood out for me (Note 2 is a little too big).
More than anything, I was surprised to how well the on screen buttons blend into the bezels. The deep blacks are astounding.
Although, kevlar is a nice addition
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Leraeniesh said:
The RAZR M really stood out for me (Note 2 is a little too big).
More than anything, I was surprised to how well the on screen buttons blend into the bezels. The deep blacks are astounding.
Although, kevlar is a nice addition
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Exactly my thoughts. I secretly despise Samsung for their button placement and functions (the front three) .

I switched from a SGS3 to a Razr M recently. I think the Razr M is better.
Build quality - The SGS3 is entirely plastic and feels very cheap. Pulling off the back to get to the battery / sd card / sim literally makes my cringe every time, the back is a cheap piece of plastic. The physical buttons vary in quality between phones (I had THREE SGS3's due to manufacturing / software defects) but feel very cheap all around. Surprisingly the M is heavier despite being smaller than the SGS3, probably due to it's superior build quality. The frame of the M appears to be metal, and they power/volume buttons on the side feel very nice.
Form Factory - Although the screen of the M is only .5" smaller, the feel of the size of theses phones is like night and day. The S3 feels HUGE (to me) and the M feels iPhone 4 sized (which to me, is a huge plus).
Signal/Voice - My SGS3 would frequently drop 4g, even after two replacements. Much better reception / call quality on the M.
Camera / Mics - The microphone on the M is better, hands down. Pretty close to the mic quality of the iPhone 4, which was amazing. The SGS3 has a slightly better camera (12 MP vs 8MP iirc) and it does show. But for facebook / instagram pictures the M camera is just fine, and the stock camera software on the M is superior in my opinion.
OS Feel - Touchwiz on the SGS3 is bad and you know it. The stock rom on the M just feels faster then the stock on the SGS3.
Screen - The SGS3 (obviously) has a bigger and better screen. The M screen definitely seems lower density but unless you're reading small, small print, you won't notice. I've heard reports that the M screen is brighter, but I think they're about equal.
Modding - Any SGS3, even on verizon, can get a bootloader unlock. I don't think the American non-dev M's can. There is also a HUGE homebrew rom community for the SGS3 compared to the M. However, that being said - the stock rom on the M is not bad at all. I'm personally a stickler for using unmolested android roms, but the M's stock rom fits me nicely. The M does have a root exploit, so you can strip out crap you don't want (which for me, was 4 or 5 apps).
Battery Life - I can't comment on the battery life of the M since I haven't had it long. The SGS3 certainly does not live up to it's alleged battery life in my opinion. I unplug every day at 7 AM for work, and by the time I am home at 5PM, and some days I don't even use the phone the entire workday. The phone has around 50% battery left if I don't even use it during that time.
Overall, if you want a larger screen and a bigger modding community, go with the SGS3 if you can deal with the cheap plastic build. If a smaller screen device is what you want and only a minor mod community is ok, then the M is definitely a better choice because of it's quality.
That's my two cents.

Trying to compare these two phones is like compairing a Lexus with a Chevy Cobalt . Of course the S3 would be the Lexus . We have several of both phones on family plan . If you take a lot of photos or videos , you would want the S3 . You will get a hour or so more from the battery on the M , however , its a small phone . My wife has the smallest hands I've ever seen and she actually prefers the S3 . Its lighter and thinner which offsets the overall feel of the S3.
My signal is better on the S3 in terms of call quality and signal strength . And for some reason lte appears faster as well .
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huedawg said:
Trying to compare these two phones is like compairing a Lexus with a Chevy Cobalt . Of course the S3 would be the Lexus
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Not really seeing that analogy given the Ms superior build quality, like processing power and performance. I see it as more of a minimally optioned BMW 135 vs a loaded BMW 535. Sure the 535 is larger, with more gadgets, roomy and luxurious but the 135 has the same engine under the hood, is small and nimble and the driving purist would take more pleasure in owning the 135. Oh for some reason this particular 535 is built quite flimsy compared to thee 135 for some reason :silly: The M is certainly not inferior to an S3 as a cobalt compared to a lexus would suggest, its just minimalistic..

stanlalee said:
Not really seeing that analogy given the Ms superior build quality, like processing power and performance. I see it as more of a minimally optioned BMW 135 vs a loaded BMW 535. Sure the 535 is larger, with more gadgets, roomy and luxurious but the 135 has the same engine under the hood, is small and nimble and the driving purist would take more pleasure in owning the 135. Oh for some reason this particular 535 is built quite flimsy compared to thee 135 for some reason :silly: The M is certainly not inferior to an S3 as a cobalt compared to a lexus would suggest, its just minimalistic..
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I agree to a small extent , I mean , it is a decent little budget phone that is far from high end . To each their own .
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Nice phone
Leraeniesh said:
The RAZR M really stood out for me (Note 2 is a little too big).
More than anything, I was surprised to how well the on screen buttons blend into the bezels. The deep blacks are astounding.
Although, kevlar is a nice addition
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I agree about the buttons. It took a few seconds of looking at it in the store for me to realize those button were on the screen.
The high screen size/phone size ratio is one of the things that sold me.
This is my very first smartphone, and while I like the idea of being able to to watch videos, the idea of carrying around something "phablet" sized was unappealing. I'm used to a very small phone.
I've only had it since the weekend, and so far, no buyers remorse.

I switched over to the M in December, after I got fed up with my T-Mobile Galaxy S II for the last time! To be honest, I was so pissed at my TMobile/Samsung, that I just marched into the Verizon store without doing much research on phones, and the RAZR M just caught my eye. Before that, I had my GS2 and GS4G, so I was very used to Samsung and their Touchwiz, which was basically the only form of Android I really knew.
I must say that I'm still very impressed with the RAZR M. Took me a while to get used to the smaller screen and size, but now I really prefer it to the other gigantic phones out there. And the speed and power seem to be on par with any other phone I've tried. I loooove Moto's version of Android, seems to be as close to vanilla android as you can get. I dont miss anything about Touchwiz at all!
And the battery lasts all day an then some. I usually have about 50-60% left when I go to bed at night. Very impressed!

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I switched over to the M in December, after I got fed up with my T-Mobile Galaxy S II for the last time! To be honest, I was so pissed at my TMobile/Samsung, that I just marched into the Verizon store without doing much research on phones, and the RAZR M just caught my eye. Before that, I had my GS2 and GS4G, so I was very used to Samsung and their Touchwiz, which was basically the only form of Android I really knew.
I must say that I'm still very impressed with the RAZR M. Took me a while to get used to the smaller screen and size, but now I really prefer it to the other gigantic phones out there. And the speed and power seem to be on par with any other phone I've tried. I loooove Moto's version of Android, seems to be as close to vanilla android as you can get. I dont miss anything about Touchwiz at all!
And the battery lasts all day an then some. I usually have about 50-60% left when I go to bed at night. Very impressed!
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i never used any samsung phone for ugly design and plastic material and feels very cheap .
but i see samsung tuchwize is realy absurd .
i hope buy faster new razr m - i - hd or atrix hd

reviews&opinions about htc 8s

hey i'm toby,
i was considering to buy this phone because of the beats audio feature and the simplicity of the OS....
i really like the colors it comes in and i wanna stop worrying if my phone gets a custom firmware, i want to become a simple user again who doesn't care about bootloaders and hacks also i wouldn't mind if there were any.
now it comes down to your opinions, doyou think its a good phone? are you happy with it?
please consider to describe me the pro's and con's of the htc 8s and if you like about the wp8 pro's and con's too.
currently i'm using a lg l5
thanks
regards toby

i've had a desire x and 2 days ago i've trade my dx for a htc 8s and i simply love it ! The screen is great for it's price, speakers are good, it's fast and responsive. I've been a android user for 3 years now and this is my first wp device and i think wp is better (but not for gaming) . So if you want something new/fresh buy this phone. You wont be sorry. The only thing i don't like is the small keyboard when you type in landscape mode.

KillMoves said:
i've had a desire x and 2 days ago i've trade my dx for a htc 8s and i simply love it ! The screen is great for it's price, speakers are good, it's fast and responsive. I've been a android user for 3 years now and this is my first wp device and i think wp is better (but not for gaming) . So if you want something new/fresh buy this phone. You wont be sorry. The only thing i don't like is the small keyboard when you type in landscape mode.
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the phone speakers are not so important i'll use my pair of sennheiser 485hd, what do think about the beats audio feature? and how about holding the phone? mine is really large and i have to hold it almost with to hands. using it with one hand is a thumb excercise for me before my first android, i had a nokia 5800 for 2 years on a customfirmware... i loved it, and somwhere in between i had a iphone 3g which i'm still using from time to time... which color do you have?

toby913 said:
the phone speakers are not so important i'll use my pair of sennheiser 485hd, what do think about the beats audio feature? and how about holding the phone? mine is really large and i have to hold it almost with to hands. using it with one hand is a thumb excercise for me before my first android, i had a nokia 5800 for 2 years on a customfirmware... i loved it, and somwhere in between i had a iphone 3g which i'm still using from time to time... which color do you have?
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Hi toby,
I have bought it on Friday to my son and I can tell you, that the phone is amazing value for the money (approx. 300 USD). The size and weight are great and the phone fits just right to the hand. I have myself HTC HD7, and compared it to 8S I just realized how much my phone is ancient...
I love the feeling of the material of which the 8S is build, the lightness and the quality of the display. Also the speed and smoothness is incredible.
Son also bought 32GB SD card and copied almost all of his music to it. The Beast Audio sound is great with my Bose headphones and we both love it.
The only drawback I see is lack of HTC apps if you compare it to Nokia. Especially I am missing HTCs DLNA app to play music over the air on our Pioneer Receiver.
Hope this helps

homer.web said:
Hi toby,
I have bought it on Friday to my son and I can tell you, that the phone is amazing value for the money (approx. 300 USD). The size and weight are great and the phone fits just right to the hand. I have myself HTC HD7, and compared it to 8S I just realized how much my phone is ancient...
I love the feeling of the material of which the 8S is build, the lightness and the quality of the display. Also the speed and smoothness is incredible.
Son also bought 32GB SD card and copied almost all of his music to it. The Beast Audio sound is great with my Bose headphones and we both love it.
The only drawback I see is lack of HTC apps if you compare it to Nokia. Especially I am missing HTCs DLNA app to play music over the air on our Pioneer Receiver.
Hope this helps
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that's great news i am in europe so it costs around 260€
is there anything else i should know about ?

Beats audio is awesome as always. The phone fits perfect in my hand and i love the build quality (it doesn't feel like cheap plastic like samsung) you can easily do everything with one hand. Like i said it's a great phone but i'm a little dissapointed about games and apps from the windows market. The good ones aren't free :/ (if someone know how to get free paid apps pls tell). And i have the domino one (black and white) . The yellow one looks awesome but you can't get it in my country -.-

I think the only minus for this phone is just the small internal memory. That's it.

roxin.phoenix said:
I think the only minus for this phone is just the small internal memory. That's it.
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Yep, the small internal memory is the weakest point of the phone (besides the bad camera photos). But if MS decides to let you install apps on SD Card this won't be the issue. Overall your getting a lot for your money, simple and elegant and most of all fast

I think one problem with apps on SD cards is the performance of these apps...
There are a lot of bad and slow SD cards out there... this would decrease the performance of these apps a lot...
There should be a least a option for navigation programs and similar apps to store maps and content on the SD card....

[Q] Z1 compact or s5 mini? Please read!

Hi
I'm aware there is already a similar thread but I wanted some answers more specific to my needs and to current prices. I recently had my uninsured S5 stolen and I'm stuck in a contract so I need to buy a mid-range phone which is going to last me another 16 months or so without feeling too outdated. I want a smaller handset as I was getting sick of the larger phones. My budget stretches to about £270 for which both the S5 mini and the Z1 compact are currently priced. Unfortunately I can't stretch to the z3 compact price. I want to know which phone has the better camera, as this is one of the main selling points for me. I know that neither will match up to the s5 camera. On paper the z1 compact has the best camera, but I've seen a few posts saying it is actually disappointing and often freezes. The S5 minis camera seems to get fairly positive reviews despite being only 8MP. I'm no pro photographer so will I even be able to tell the difference?!
I don't care about the samsungs gimmicks (heart rate sensor, fingerprint scanner etc.) and also don't mind touchwhiz too much. I do like the fact it has a removable battery as I often carry a spare, but maybe the sony battery is miles better anyway?
I'm also wary about changing to Sony. I've had Samsungs for years and they've never broken, apart from when I dropped them. Samsung quickly replaced them for me free of charge after some persuasion it wasn't my fault! I've seen a lot of posts questioning the z1 compacts reliability, and a few more claiming sony aren't too good at dealing with replacements etc. Also slightly wary about the glass back cracking? Though I admit the Sony looks better.
I've never rooted or flashed custom ROMs or anything so I'm probably in the wrong forum (sorry!) but this seems to be the most active phone forum I could find. I'm not completely opposed to rooting etc if it would be really beneficial, though again, I'm wary!
Should point out that I don't game much on mobile, I just like a smooth, reliable experience for browsing internet, watching youtube, using facebook, whatsapp, reddit etc, and a good reliable camera.
So basically, do I play it safe and stick with Samsung, better screen, decent camera, pics may even look better on the better screen, though the phone may be slightly slower? Or do I go for the z1 despite my reliability concerns?! Is rooting going to change the decision between the two??
Thanks, and sorry for the long post! Appreciate your answers, if I get any! :good:

Anyone?!

Get the sony they beat samsung hands down

If u ar a samsung fan then go for s5 mini
But from the spec s5 mini is no where compared to z1c

Thanks for the replies. Think I'm leaning towards the Sony, think I'm just wary that its more likely to break.... quite fancy a change from the samsung though

creme_egg said:
Thanks for the replies. Think I'm leaning towards the Sony, think I'm just wary that its more likely to break.... quite fancy a change from the samsung though
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If you don't really need a very fast CPU/GPU and the 512MB more memory. Actually, I would recommend you to stick with Samsung.
S5 Mini got 0.2" larger screen with physical key so actually it's about 0.35" larger, the battery is 200mah smaller capacity on S5 mini but battery switchable. The image quality is better on Z1c but focus is bad, so it is a 50/50. The S800 CPU on Z1c is like 2x ~ 3x raw performance plus there are 512MB ram more, it really depends if you are going to run some big 3D games or heavily multi-tasking then you need it. The phone design is also more pretty on Z1c and there are more mods(like 4K video) and custom roms for Z1c but you'll need to root.
If you just run some basic apps and normal gaming, then I think S5 mini with larger screen and spare battery is more better for you.

creme_egg said:
Hi
I'm aware there is already a similar thread but I wanted some answers more specific to my needs and to current prices. I recently had my uninsured S5 stolen and I'm stuck in a contract so I need to buy a mid-range phone which is going to last me another 16 months or so without feeling too outdated. I want a smaller handset as I was getting sick of the larger phones. My budget stretches to about £270 for which both the S5 mini and the Z1 compact are currently priced. Unfortunately I can't stretch to the z3 compact price. I want to know which phone has the better camera, as this is one of the main selling points for me. I know that neither will match up to the s5 camera. On paper the z1 compact has the best camera, but I've seen a few posts saying it is actually disappointing and often freezes. The S5 minis camera seems to get fairly positive reviews despite being only 8MP. I'm no pro photographer so will I even be able to tell the difference?!
I don't care about the samsungs gimmicks (heart rate sensor, fingerprint scanner etc.) and also don't mind touchwhiz too much. I do like the fact it has a removable battery as I often carry a spare, but maybe the sony battery is miles better anyway?
I'm also wary about changing to Sony. I've had Samsungs for years and they've never broken, apart from when I dropped them. Samsung quickly replaced them for me free of charge after some persuasion it wasn't my fault! I've seen a lot of posts questioning the z1 compacts reliability, and a few more claiming sony aren't too good at dealing with replacements etc. Also slightly wary about the glass back cracking? Though I admit the Sony looks better.
I've never rooted or flashed custom ROMs or anything so I'm probably in the wrong forum (sorry!) but this seems to be the most active phone forum I could find. I'm not completely opposed to rooting etc if it would be really beneficial, though again, I'm wary!
Should point out that I don't game much on mobile, I just like a smooth, reliable experience for browsing internet, watching youtube, using facebook, whatsapp, reddit etc, and a good reliable camera.
So basically, do I play it safe and stick with Samsung, better screen, decent camera, pics may even look better on the better screen, though the phone may be slightly slower? Or do I go for the z1 despite my reliability concerns?! Is rooting going to change the decision between the two??
Thanks, and sorry for the long post! Appreciate your answers, if I get any! :good:
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Disclaimer: You are asking this on the Z1 Compact sub-forum, of course you will get biased answers here but I will try to stay objective.
First up the S5 Mini comes with either an Exynos 3 processor or a Snapdragon 400, if you get the Exynos variant there will be very little to no community support for it, meaning once Samsung drops support for it you won't be able to get community updates through CyanogenMod or such for it, you'll be stuck with whatever version of Android Samsung leaves you with, as opposed to the Z1 Compact which I'm expecting to live for a long time provided it physically holds together.
Z1 Compact back is plastic, not glass. I can't really say about drops and screen cracks, but I have been told this is one of the areas the Z3 Compact improves on, I've dropped mine a few times and it's fine so far.
The camera is fine, it isn't the best, but it's certainly not bad. On Sony ROMs it produces very good pictures. On non-Sony ROMs the pictures are not as good, but still ok.
As far as performance goes there's no comparison, the Z1 Compact thrashes both variants of the S5 Mini. I haven't used the S5 Mini myself, so I can't comment on its battery, but I can tell you for sure that the Z1 Compact will without a doubt last you at the very least one full day of quite heavy usage. If you're not a heavy user as you claim, then it will most likely last you 2 full days, perhaps requiring you to activate stamina mode on day 2. This will improve even more with Lollipop.
If you've been using Samsungs for a while then yes, colours will look dull at first on the Sony since Samsung over-saturates their screens providing very vivid (but unnatural) colours, but I can guarantee you that the Sony screen is not bad, in fact, it is really very good, which you'll see once you've gotten used to non-Samsung screens.
I have owned iPhones (original, 3GS, 4S), HTCs (3 or 4 over the years, last one was the One X, loved it, but when the screen broke I got the S3 LTE...), Samsung (S3 LTE, hated its guts, I don't know how you can stand TouchWiz), Motorola and a few Sonys. Performance and features aside, the Z1 Compact is the best phone I have owned hands down. It's the right size for me, it's not too heavy and not too light either, battery life is excellent even for a heavy user like myself, usually at about 40-50% at the end of the day.
Oh and don't forget the Z1 Compact is waterproof as well, very useful feature!
...Sorry for the long reply hehe.

Thoughts and opinions on Sony Xperia Z5 Premium

Hello,
Im considering buying the new Sony phone. Any thoughts on it? Is it worth buying over other premium/flagship phones?

I plan on buying it as ive found the best phones for my self to have are Nexus, LG or sony
I find that its a worthy upgrade to my Z2 and has that typical sony quality, although i had some problems with my Z2 its still an awesome device and i'd be happy to take a Z5 Premium over a LG V10 (my alternative choice)
Benefits over most phones:
4K Screen
Typically decent battery life
Decent camera (i dont care about megapixels)
Nice design and shape
(not sure about fingerprint sensor)
I REALLY like the demo units ive used

I have the V10 and Z5p. Since this is my first Sony phone I am completely loving the Z5p. I got the Black version. The Nexus 6p was never a choice after seeing the disturbing bend video on YouTube. I'm running the Z5p naked but the cases and glass screen protectors are coming in next week.
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psygnosi said:
I have the V10 and Z5p. Since this is my first Sony phone I am completely loving the Z5p. I got the Black version. The Nexus 6p was never a choice after seeing the disturbing bend video on YouTube. I'm running the Z5p naked but the cases and glass screen protectors are coming in next week.
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How would you compare the V10 and Z5p? Which one is better?

I like them both. Z5p is my main. V10 is my backup.
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Hi please would you tell me how you find speaker phone of Sony z5 premium ? Also while calling someone.....is it clear and high volume in earphone and speakers volume on songs Rgrds

psygnosi said:
I like them both. Z5p is my main. V10 is my backup.
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My choice is probably between these two phones and then also waiting for the samsung galaxy s7 or rumored Lg g4 pro. Any thoughts on what would be the better choice?
If you where to choose between the V10 and Z5p what would you choose?

Having owned all top end phones in the last 3 years I'm must say z5 premium sits quite well amongst the current top phones 6s Plus, Nexus 6p, S6 Edge plus, M9 plus, moto x style, Blackberry Priv. I will provide very brief reasons why i think so
Where Z5 is par or performs better the other top end phones:
4k screen(obvious) - bright and vibrant
speakers - loud crisp and clear
Design - Sold with glass back
Build quality - sturdy and waterproof
Camera
Battery life - good
UI - smooth and very little lag (only BB, Moto is better due to being closest to stock android)
SD Card
Cons
PRICE (s/be priced around £500 max)
Won't get good development support, very little

riz157 said:
Having owned all top end phones in the last 3 years I'm must say z5 premium sits quite well amongst the current top phones 6s Plus, Nexus 6p, S6 Edge plus, M9 plus, moto x style, Blackberry Priv. I will provide very brief reasons why i think so
Where Z5 is par or performs better the other top end phones:
4k screen(obvious) - bright and vibrant
speakers - loud crisp and clear
Design - Sold with glass back
Build quality - sturdy and waterproof
Camera
Battery life - good
UI - smooth and very little lag (only BB, Moto is better due to being closest to stock android)
SD Card
Cons
PRICE (s/be priced around £500 max)
Won't get good development support, very little
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Thanks for the great help. So would you recommend this phone over any other atm? Or is lg v10 or waiting for samsung s7 or lg g4 pro still a good option?

Xabuk said:
Thanks for the great help. So would you recommend this phone over any other atm? Or is lg v10 or waiting for samsung s7 or lg g4 pro still a good option?
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If you don't mind LG lag and ugly UI then LG is a very good choice but for me I detest it more then Samsung UI. This of course is personal preference and not necessarily objective.
As for S7 i think it's going to be worth the wait since it will probably have 4k screen and premium build, better camera and better processor. Hopefully UI would have been revamped closer to stock android. Then again there will be news leaking of other top end phones like Iphone, HTC and Sony, Motorola etc so you could find yourself waiting even longer.
As long we keeping buying they will keep churning out phones month after month, week after week. How sad!

riz157 said:
If you don't mind LG lag and ugly UI then LG is a very good choice but for me I detest it more then Samsung UI. This of course is personal preference and not necessarily objective.
As for S7 i think it's going to be worth the wait since it will probably have 4k screen and premium build, better camera and better processor. Hopefully UI would have been revamped closer to stock android. Then again there will be news leaking of other top end phones like Iphone, HTC and Sony, Motorola etc so you could find yourself waiting even longer.
As long we keeping buying they will keep churning out phones month after month, week after week. How sad!
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Any official leaks about the s7?

Xabuk said:
Any official leaks about the s7?
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I currently own the Nexus 6P, and had the S6 Edge (sold it).
The Sony Z5 Premium is better than every other phone out there right now....the 6P is great but I think it's just slightly out of my comfort zone of 5.5 inches. Plus the Z5P just looks absolutely fantastic....I ordered the chrome version and should have it by the end of the week.
For those comparing it to the S6 or a possible S7, don't...S7 is no where near ready for a release date....the S6 is still considered new....but just as all other Samsung phones, Touchwiz still sucks and still hurts the S6 in the end...and the software builds from Samsung are still laggy to this day! My S6 Edge always started to lag considerably after I loaded it with a good 30-50 apps...the Nexus 6P works fantastic and very smoothly regardless of what you throw at it...the Sony Z5P is the same...user experience on the Z5P is probably the best of all other phones and from the few people who I know have it say there is no slowdowns or loss of performance...I'm guessing that has a lot to do with the fact that Sony hasn't gone too far from stock Android...if you Google Sony Z5P camera pictures, you will see it is very superior.
There are a lot of people talking about CPU degradation on the S6 which is happening within months of owning it...I think this really may be true or Samsung just has a lot of bad Exynos CPUs in production....my S6 Edge was a very big letdown overall except for the camera and screen which were absolutely fantastic....the Z5P looks to excel in every aspect of a smartphone with no real negatives.

gparmar76 said:
I currently own the Nexus 6P, and had the S6 Edge (sold it).
The Sony Z5 Premium is better than every other phone out there right now....the 6P is great but I think it's just slightly out of my comfort zone of 5.5 inches. Plus the Z5P just looks absolutely fantastic....I ordered the chrome version and should have it by the end of the week.
For those comparing it to the S6 or a possible S7, don't...S7 is no where near ready for a release date....the S6 is still considered new....but just as all other Samsung phones, Touchwiz still sucks and still hurts the S6 in the end...and the software builds from Samsung are still laggy to this day! My S6 Edge always started to lag considerably after I loaded it with a good 30-50 apps...the Nexus 6P works fantastic and very smoothly regardless of what you throw at it...the Sony Z5P is the same...user experience on the Z5P is probably the best of all other phones and from the few people who I know have it say there is no slowdowns or loss of performance...I'm guessing that has a lot to do with the fact that Sony hasn't gone too far from stock Android...if you Google Sony Z5P camera pictures, you will see it is very superior.
There are a lot of people talking about CPU degradation on the S6 which is happening within months of owning it...I think this really may be true or Samsung just has a lot of bad Exynos CPUs in production....my S6 Edge was a very big letdown overall except for the camera and screen which were absolutely fantastic....the Z5P looks to excel in every aspect of a smartphone with no real negatives.
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The thing that worries me is that although I am paying for a 4k display I only get to use it 10% of the time. The rest of the time the screen is in normal full hd.

Xabuk said:
The thing that worries me is that although I am paying for a 4k display I only get to use it 10% of the time. The rest of the time the screen is in normal full hd.
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That is the biggest dowside.

riz157 said:
That is the biggest dowside.
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Does it makes the 4k worthless and therefore not worth spending that extra money. I have also read that you cant see a difference between full hd and 4k on this sony phone.

You can easily change the DPI on the phone to full 4k full time without root...it can be done a few different ways...but honestly, wouldn't you prefer using 1080p when just browsing the web and mundane tasks? It automatically uses 4k anytime your using the camera or watching videos...what else could you possibly need 4k for? And remember, if it bothers you, just change the DPI and it can stay 4k permanently
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Does it makes the 4k worthless and therefore not worth spending that extra money. I have also read that you cant see a difference between full hd and 4k on this sony phone.
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You won't see the difference between 2k and 1080p either...its not the resolution that matters...it's the quality of the display panel that matters...there are 2k screens on many phones yet some look sharper and crisper than others...the Sony Z5P has a superior panel that looks fantastic regardless of the resolution... That's what matters.

Hand on heart, this looks sharper at 1080p than the S6 edge at 2k.
At 4k this thing looks amazing
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It does look sharp even with 1080p due to 4k screen, everything seems upscale.
I must say I can't tell the difference between this and other QHD screens.
Other 1080 screens don't look as sharp.

For me my dual Sim z5 premium have a bad battery ever seen..... Also biggest problem is the high heat beside the camera in the middle point..... Also delay when calling 2 to 3 sec..... I think this device the last one on Sony brand.... I think it's a very bad choice.... Believe me I swear....

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For me my dual Sim z5 premium have a bad battery ever seen..... Also biggest problem is the high heat beside the camera in the middle point..... Also delay when calling 2 to 3 sec..... I think this device the last one on Sony brand.... I think it's a very bad choice.... Believe me I swear....
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I've had my z5p since monday. I have not had any issues with battery, call quality, screen, or speakers. I like the z5p a lot, its not as huge of an upgrade over my note 3 that I would have liked. But in all there is nothing wrong with getting the z5p. I suppose a small argument could be made about the 4k screen utilization. I think a lot of people realize that it takes a lot to push 4k and it should not surprise you the phone doesn't do 4k all the time. Be smart with your money, if the price difference between the regular z5 and the z5p is too much, then cool go with what you want.

Xperia L1 is a phenomenal device and you should buy it

Ok, I have got myself an L1 - didnt have money for a premium device as I always tend to buy top phone, so I went with the reviews to buy a budget phone with a big screen and not a single review was in favor of L1
That is completely shi*. As soon as I entered the store, I realized L1 is 3x better than other similar phones. The biggest problem reviews are saying with L1 is that it doesnt have fingerprint sensor, compared to Motorola G5 and other similar price-range phones, completely disregarding the fact that this phone is miles, years and eons in front of all other manufacturers when it comes to design and quality. Something HTC had back in the day, premium build quality
First of all - If finger print sensor is so god-damn important than you are a girl with nude selfies. I had several Huawei devices with best finger-print make and not once did I activate that stuff, I dont even lock my phone so I dont get what the big fuss is
L1 >
- superb screen. (who ever says they see individual pixels at 267 PPI should get punched in the face)
- Better camera quality compared to ANY mid-range price device.
- Phenomenal build you would find in only premium phones, excluding the slightly thicker body.
- one of the best plastic finishes on plastic-body phones, ever
- guaranteed harder body than 99.9% phones ever made (if there is one phone you will hope survived 3 floors fall, it's this one)
- has Mediatek MT6737T which is really OK chipset, slightly slower CPU than Snapdragon 801, sligthly stronger GPU (snapdragon 801 is stronger than J7 2017 exynos SoC, for example)
- Sony has really tried on this one, to tone down the big chin-forehead bezel on it's design (74% screen to body ratio)
- exactly due to 720p and MTK chipset, 2620 Maph battery holds really really good, charges fast even though stock charger is 1A (I didnt even try the quick charge with 2A)
- a really simple solution to make phone not-slippery: make plastic rough but somehow matte so it looks great
- USB C on such a device, looking forward
Downsides:
- no earbuds ? seriously Sony ? you are the earbud people, japanese people, and you dont putt even those stock-shi* earphones ?
- no screen protector out-of-the-box, just that lame transparent thin shi* that falls off immediately
- my device needs force to plug-in USB-C, nothing big but noticeable
- poor choice of accessories compared to beaten-to-death HTC who makes those fancy cover-thingies with holes n' shi* even for budget phones , you need to up your game Sony
In my opinion, in this price range, there is no better device than L1. I dont care about fingerprint, my points of interest are phenomenal big screen, sturdy and quality build and lack of stupid design stuff on the phone you are surely gonna damage (like those frames with thin lines and glossy finish on Samsungs you are destined to chip, break, or damage) - this phone is great and you should buy it

Samsung stereo headset works 100%.
You can use screen protector for LG G4 even it looks weird.
I prefer type C because it has OTG support out of the box.
Other than the case, I can use all accessories on hand with no problem.

i got earbuds with mine, they are not great but not terrible but it hurts ears if you use it for a while.

My issue with the L1 is that too many apps wont transfer to my SD and of the ones that do there a too many that wont update while they're on the SD

Hay I'm planning to buy this phone
What can you tell me about speakers?
Is voice noisy or disorted?
Can you post some photos of your cameras?
Thank you

This device uses MEDIATEK chip. Can we use MTK Tool with it?

Igoritza said:
- superb screen. (who ever says they see individual pixels at 267 PPI should get punched in the face)
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Thanks for that you just made my day :laugh: :laugh:
I 100% Agree :good:
The entire Range of Sony/MediaTek devices M5, C4, C5, XA, XA1, L1, E5 and variants of are/were Awesome value for money and If I had the cash I would buy them all !!
Build quality is fantastic through out the range and you get Sony aftercare at the price of a obscure china import phone It's a no brainer to me.
The mediatek naysayer's/haters here on xda are usually noob's who never built anything ever and read old topics from ten years ago then spout the same old garbage (so annoying )
Igoritza said:
this phone is great and you should buy it
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Along with the XA XA1 they're a steal too :good:
Just looking at the L1 now Manufacturer Refurbished with 12 months Warranty "A1" condition and Sim Free £69
Similar deals on the XA and XA1 too but I really want the XA1 Ultra