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Hello guys,
I am very new to HTC phone and i managed to root my htc desire
using this guide nimbu.amorvi.com/2010/05/how-to-root-your-htc-desire
after root you can see in the picture i have App2sd enabled in pictures but my internal phone memory is still going lower. I have couple of gameloft games installed Ashphat 5, RealFootball, Gangster,heavy gunner and hawx and apps like astro, act1, documents to go.
I tried installing Darktremor A2SD version 2.7 but phone kept on restarting after htc logo so i rooted the phone again with nimbu.amorvi.com/2010/05/how-to-root-your-htc-desire guide.
My phone is on orange contract uk. I don't want to brick this phone.
please guide me to the right direction to install right rom with apps2sd+ or apps2sd so that every thing gets installed on sd card instead of phone memory. I have been reading this forum and Modaco forum for couple of days now. I can't get apps2sd to work properly so i can have loads of phone memory.
I have 16gb Sd card class 2 during apps2sd process i made Goldcard with sd card 4gb which came with the phone.
I don't want to brick my phone. what is the safe method?
Please guide me in right direction so i can enjoy desire more.
Sorry if i asked question which were asked before.
Thanks
I'm facing the exact same problem as yours. All the tests shows that app2sd and app2sd+ is working.
But, the internal memory still decreases. Till now, I have no idea how to solve this.
Apparently it's related to the /data/data/ folder still filling, I don't know much more past this point.
There must be another rom which has app2sd+ where application gets installed in to sd card.
I am not sure about if i should boot to some awesome roms posted here. Will try when someone who was in same situaution as me gives me thumb up to install new rom and apps2sd which works
ronaldo9_r9 said:
There must be another rom which has app2sd+ where application gets installed in to sd card.
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As has been previously said, the application does get installed to the SD card. However, any "data" in /data/data is left in internal memory.
I have Copilot installed on my Desire. It takes up 18.50mb in total - 11.23mb for the application and 7.27mb for data. If I used Apps2SD, I should regain the 11.23mb, but the 7.27mb data is still in internal memory.
Regards,
Dave
I understand that some data gets installed on internal phone memory. I also read in these forum people are downloading google earth and co pilot big application and they still have over 100mb data left in internal memory. I haven't installed apps2sd+ i only have apps2sd normal when i followed this guide nimbu.amorvi.com/2010/05/how-to-root-your-htc-desire.
I wanted to know is there any other rom which has apps2sd+ which store majority data in sd but not internal rom.
Which rom do you think is better for newbie like me. Modaco customer R3 which has app2sd+ custom build or any other free rom in htc Desire Android Development thread?
I am just flash with SuperNOVA and i would like to move some apps to my internal memory to reduce lag.
The main one is the GO Launcher EX.
I really want to move it into my internal memory. If i have a terminal emulator, what should I type in to do so?
Using this ROM
http://supernova.droidzone.in/?page_id=24
Thanks
When using A2SD, you can't. If you are using DATA2SD apps are always on internal memory.
Terepin said:
When using A2SD, you can't. If you are using DATA2SD apps are always on internal memory.
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No.
data2sd is like a2sd, but instead of moving all the apps, it moves the entire data partition to SD so everything is on SD (although it shows as internal).
@ OP, cant be done.
rootSU said:
No.
data2sd is like a2sd, but instead of moving all the apps, it moves the entire data partition to SD so everything is on SD (although it shows as internal).
@ OP, cant be done.
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Thanks a lot. I catch what you mean.
However, is it possible to temporarily change the installation location to Internal and restore to sd-ext after rebooting? I am just wonder that would happen
No because SD-EXT IS internal. "internal" means /data/app/ which is actually now /sd-ext/data/app (or however it is structured).
With data2sd:
Internal = /sd-ext/data/app
External = /sdcard/.android_secure (as it always has = )
Thanks. Now, I would like to know the whether there is a need to GPART my SD card for superNOVA?
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
Moving to Q&A
rootSU said:
No.
data2sd is like a2sd, but instead of moving all the apps, it moves the entire data partition to SD so everything is on SD (although it shows as internal).
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Wait, DATA2SD moves both apps and data to SD card?
Yep, whole partition
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Oh, but there is a solution if you need the app in nand though..create a folder in /system/data, then make a symlink in/data/app to it..
TouchPal-d from my Desire running Starburst Classic Rom - 450 apps and counting. .
rootSU said:
Yep, whole partition
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Now I know why DATA2SD has so ****ty performance.
Terepin said:
Now I know why DATA2SD has so ****ty performance.
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It depends on the card to an extent but Ive never had good performance.
Is there any way 2 put cm7 in karbonn a1,...
After all it is a zte product, & hard ware also same 2 zts blade.....
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Now I know why DATA2SD has so ****ty performance.
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Oh really? Maybe you have a crappy card, and tried it on a crappy ROM. And don't tell me it's of a good class. That has nothing to do with it. To each his own..
If the speed of the card in random read write of small chunks of data is good, Data2sd should perform well. The basic criteria is that the speed of card should match nand. But making a very vague statement that Data2sd as such is laggy, is like a blind man holding the elephant's tail and saying the elephant's a small animal.
TouchPal-d from my Desire running Starburst Classic Rom - 450 apps and counting. .
For me Supernova is one of the best ROMs out there, and despite occasional lag and hanging apps I haven't found anything that combines a fully working Sense ROM without Sense 3.0 crap that never works well, and so much space for apps.
One question though. All day it seems to work well, I have a class 10 Transcend card 8 GB. Lags usually occur when the phone is locked and I try to move out of the lockscreen, it seems like it never actually "wakes up" and everything is laggy, the lockscreen itself hangs and doesn't respond, and when I finally unlock it I get messages for HTC Sense hanging etc. This happened for example this morning when I got out of bed and tried to answer a call after leaving the phone on all night. (I missed the call btw, since the Telephone app was stuck as well and I could not answer it )
Any ideas?
Are you on 2.1 ROM. Flash the older ROM
TouchPal-d from my Desire running Starburst Classic Rom - 450 apps and counting. .
Droidzone said:
Are you on 2.1 ROM. Flash the older ROM
TouchPal-d from my Desire running Starburst Classic Rom - 450 apps and counting. .
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No, I downloaded it yesterday so it was the 2.0.2.0 version. I also tried Gingerburst today with similar problems. Probably it's the SD card's fault after all
Probably. We have had limited success with class 10 cards..I'd try a class 6 transcend if I were you.
TouchPal-d from my Desire running Starburst Classic Rom - 450 apps and counting. .
Hey everyone ! First I swear I don't post this because I'm too lazy to make a proper search, I've been trying to solve my problems for two days...
Ok, I'll try to sum it up. Sorry if my english goes wrong at some point, I'm french.
Having problems with my micro SD in my Desire, I bought a new one, a kingston 8go, class 10.
My desire was under CM7, was S-OFF with a modified HBOOT. And except from bugs due to my SD (sometimes it would not be recognized), everything was working.
After installing the new micro SD, i did some manipulations: wipe, reinstallation, change of radio/RIL/kernel, and unfortunately ended up with no recovery and others bugs. So I decided (at one point I did stupid stuff) to reinstall RUU aaaand as I was S-OFF with a modified HBOOT, I bricked my phone. BUt after some hours and thanks to the forum, I managed to put back a RUU.
Then I did everything properly: ROOT/S-OFF with revolutionary, wipe, micro SD partition, and CM7 installation.
THen it was hell: I tried everything from regular install to legacy2ext and SimplytoExt etc every time it's really unstable. First the all thing is slow, then I can't flash the google apps, no matter what I try. If I install an app from the market, sometimes it works, sometimes it makes the phone reboot from the boot animation, sometimes it can't install etc.. Google maps was especially unstable.
THen, 10 or 20 manipulations, formatting, reinstallations later, I decided to check other rome, like Oxygen or milwild.
On my last Milwild install, everything is fluid but I can't install a single app (it's just stay on "installation" forever) and I can't wake up the screen after the phone goes to sleep.
Last but not least, my usb charger seems to have transfer problems. It's way to slow and the speed is not constant. During large transfers, comes files go corrupted. Am I usb bricked or something? I tried with another micro SD and it's the same problem;
So here I am, I really don't know what to do more? Any help?
Thanks a lot for your eventual answers!
Seems that installing a RUU solve all the problems for now, I wonder what in the process of putting a custom ROM could have caused so many differents and random problems. I'am doing the all process again to see if I can do it properly.
And again, I installed a custom ROM with CM7 hbott: impossible to download any app and the camera crashed. Any idea?
1. Don't use any D2EXT scripts with Cm7, obviously that's what caused the issue. If you NEED more space (even with cm7 hboot) try using DarkTremor's A2SD.
2. Before you flash a new ROM, do a FULL wipe (either from fastboot or recovery) - erase boot, system, userdata, cache, sd-ext (make sure you have an EXT-n partition on your sd-card, best program to use is gparted)
Desire is designed for class 4 SD card. Although some class 10's will perform at class 10 levels, many do not because of this. Kingston Class 10 being one example (I have one).
My kingston class 10, in Android, performs at class 6 speeds. Which would be ideal, but my class 10 Kingston was slower with data2sd than my class 4 sandisk.
Thanks for your answers:
Desire is designed for class 4 SD card. Although some class 10's will perform at class 10 levels, many do not because of this. Kingston Class 10 being one example (I have one).
My kingston class 10, in Android, performs at class 6 speeds. Which would be ideal, but my class 10 Kingston was slower with data2sd than my class 4 sandisk.
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Ok, I might send it back and change for another model then. But still it can't explain the problems I have
1. Don't use any D2EXT scripts with Cm7, obviously that's what caused the issue. If you NEED more space (even with cm7 hboot) try using DarkTremor's A2SD.
2. Before you flash a new ROM, do a FULL wipe (either from fastboot or recovery) - erase boot, system, userdata, cache, sd-ext (make sure you have an EXT-n partition on your sd-card, best program to use is gparted)
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I only was using this script to put the apps on the ext partition and I removed it. It's obviously not the problem since they stayed after a clean install.
I always fo a full wipe, I even formated all the partitions and my EXT partition is there and well aligned.
Here I am: I managed to "stabilise" with a gingerbread RUU, rooted and S-OFF with revolutionary.
I used RM recovery (with USB brick fix) and it seemed to help. I don't have any USB transfer problem any more.
The RUU works like a charm.
Then I tried again to install two customs romq, without any script or modification:
-on Milwild, I have still this "deep sleep" problem. I can use the camera, but I can't install any app from the market. It's stays on "installation" forever.
-On CM7 (I put the CM7r2 HBOOT with it) it starts well: I can install google maps. But then I try to open it and it freezes. Then I try to mount the FAT32 partition on my computer and it doesn't work. The cellphone also freezes when I try to reboot (there is the wheel, turning and turning, but nothing happens). SO I forced reboot, and then, google maps had just ... disappeard. I think my phone is haunted...
Isn't it strange that my cellphone is perfectly normal under RUU but can't bear any custom ROM???
I think I'm gonna go back to the RUU and try to use another SD card but I'm sceptical. If someone has a miraculous idea to share, I'll take it!!!
Thanks again
Well, rootSU, it seemed that you found the answer. I put another class 2 sd card and it seems to work again! I just spent hours on this for nothing... The strangest is that the class 10 card work perfectly when out of my phone...
Any advice about a good class 6/8/10 that could improve the performances without crashing like this?
EDIT: last question, I used the app2sd script you introduced, but I can't install any app with it, it says that I've got unsuficiant stockage space Oo.
I use.my class 10 Kingston and it works perfectly as a class 6. Plus its pretty future proof. Just no.good for data2sd.
Should work fine for everything else though
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Well, mine didn't worked at all, except the RUUs...strange! I have fully configured my class 2 SD card with simple2ext (only app on the ext partition, not data) and it works.
As I'm tireless, I'll try to put all this via nandroid on my class 10. If it could work like a class 6...
What did you use to partition the Kingston?
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I partitioned it several time, with gparted and recoveries. I'm a bit worried about some part of the hardware managing the connection with the SD card that could be partly broken. I decided to change my first SD card when I first saw a "you need to put an SD card" when I try to take a picture. I had problems with files disappearing from the SD and reappearing. Also I lost some applications that I couldn't appear. I figured the card was dying.
Then I put a new SD card, faster and with larger capacity and everything goes wrong;
Then I put the old one back and... for now, everything works.
Hi there!
I've got a problem with my HTC Desire sd card partition.
Every rom works fine, sd card also but it starts to force closing, freezing and randomly rebooting when I push apps to sd card using any of the A2SD scripts (except stock one). I mean, when I use roms which just need SD-EXT (such as MIUI or SpazeDog ICS) nothing seems to work uncorrectly but when I move apps all problems start. I tried many roms (MIUI, InsertCoin Sense, SpazeDog) and diffrent moving scripts (A2SD+ ; D2EXT ; and others which names i forgot) and it always caused reboots, FCs and frezzes when I pushed my apps. Can you guys tell me how to fix this problem, or is it just my SD card broken? I always partitioned card by 4EXT recovery, tried EXT3 and EXT4 file system, never made partition bigger than 1GB. My SD card is a Sandisk 16GB class 4.
Sorry for my bad english, Szotaa
An important thing is the method younused to partition your sd (a tool you used).
Also, it wouldn't be bad to buy faster sd card (class 6 or 10).
So, the solution for the problem would be using another partitioning tool? Is gpared a good choice?
Now I saw you used 4ext recovery, and it's the best tool. Gparted is the second best, but I think u need a new sd.
One more question, is your phone s-off? Some scripts need it to work properly.
Yes, my phone is s-off. So its a sd card issue. At the end could u tell me is supernova rom going to work properly, even on my sd card? Because i heard it is the stabliest d2ext ever made.
szotaa said:
Yes, my phone is s-off. So its a sd card issue. At the end could u tell me is supernova rom going to work properly, even on my sd card? Because i heard it is the stabliest d2ext ever made.
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Supernova recommend a certain brand of sd card to work with the rom. I cant remember it off the bat but it's stated on Droidzone's website/forum.
stankyou said:
Supernova recommend a certain brand of sd card to work with the rom. I cant remember it off the bat but it's stated on Droidzone's website/forum.
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Based on user feedback, we recommend a Transcend Class 6 for D2SD roms.
Kind of newbie question, but it is not. Some time ago I asked help here because the wildfire s internal memory is not that large (150mb) and S2E was not helping.
The problem-- Internal memory cannot deal with all the apps I do use. But, if i put all the /data on sd card, this would slow down android too much.
First try-- I tried "int2ext+" that leaves /data/data on internal for speed: at first it seemed to work, but in a while the same problems occurred.
Secondo try-- So I tried the other version, "int2ext", that transfers /data/data too, but... sleepy times for my phone.
Right now, I am confused. I wonder how do you people handle this problem... Apart from buying a new phone...
May someone helps me?
Ok...
redlo905 said:
Kind of newbie question, but it is not. Some time ago I asked help here because the wildfire s internal memory is not that large (150mb) and S2E was not helping.
The problem-- Internal memory cannot deal with all the apps I do use. But, if i put all the /data on sd card, this would slow down android too much.
First try-- I tried "int2ext+" that leaves /data/data on internal for speed: at first it seemed to work, but in a while the same problems occurred.
Secondo try-- So I tried the other version, "int2ext", that transfers /data/data too, but... sleepy times for my phone.
Right now, I am confused. I wonder how do you people handle this problem... Apart from buying a new phone...
May someone helps me?
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Well instead of int2ext(which F***ed my rom) flash data2sd.zip after u made the partision in CWM recovery (link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39695479#post39695479) Hope it helps
Good Luck
James
P.S: DONT FORGET TO CREATE THE PARTISION BEFORE FLASHING IT!!!
Thank you, James, I'll give a try with data2sd!
In the meantime, I'd like to understand what is occupying so much space in /data/data .
I believe All the Google Apps and other preinstalled apps that have to be fast (for example phone app, message app and so on)
I remember that MIUI HC 3.2, found on this website, was fast enough. Maybe, as tech grows, apps sets bigger data in /data/data. Anyway, I'm wondering how do you guys handle this problem. Therefore, I suppose I'm doing something wrong myself.
Anyway, this week I'm sadly free. So, I'll give a try.
Try upgrading your sd card to class 10, this will help solve your problem
Maybe is just your SD Card, I've int2ext installed (with cyanogen mod) and a class 6 card. It's a bit slow but I can use the phone with problems. Check your SD card, if there isn't any number printed on it probably you have a class2 o lower...
A good hint. My sd card is class 4, I'll try upgrading anyway. I'll let you know, guys.
Success!
I've bought a samsung SD card 8 giga and class 10. Wiped everything, partitioning, flashing rom with int2ext and... one day after, it seems it's really working: the phone is faster, more responsive.
Even thought, next time i'm buying such a mobile phone, i'll seriously care the internal memory to be larger than 2 giga.
Thank you all, guys!
redlo905 said:
Success!
I've bought a samsung SD card 8 giga and class 10. Wiped everything, partitioning, flashing rom with int2ext and... one day after, it seems it's really working: the phone is faster, more responsive.
Even thought, next time i'm buying such a mobile phone, i'll seriously care the internal memory to be larger than 2 giga.
Thank you all, guys!
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Cool good to hear from you