Hey everyone ! First I swear I don't post this because I'm too lazy to make a proper search, I've been trying to solve my problems for two days...
Ok, I'll try to sum it up. Sorry if my english goes wrong at some point, I'm french.
Having problems with my micro SD in my Desire, I bought a new one, a kingston 8go, class 10.
My desire was under CM7, was S-OFF with a modified HBOOT. And except from bugs due to my SD (sometimes it would not be recognized), everything was working.
After installing the new micro SD, i did some manipulations: wipe, reinstallation, change of radio/RIL/kernel, and unfortunately ended up with no recovery and others bugs. So I decided (at one point I did stupid stuff) to reinstall RUU aaaand as I was S-OFF with a modified HBOOT, I bricked my phone. BUt after some hours and thanks to the forum, I managed to put back a RUU.
Then I did everything properly: ROOT/S-OFF with revolutionary, wipe, micro SD partition, and CM7 installation.
THen it was hell: I tried everything from regular install to legacy2ext and SimplytoExt etc every time it's really unstable. First the all thing is slow, then I can't flash the google apps, no matter what I try. If I install an app from the market, sometimes it works, sometimes it makes the phone reboot from the boot animation, sometimes it can't install etc.. Google maps was especially unstable.
THen, 10 or 20 manipulations, formatting, reinstallations later, I decided to check other rome, like Oxygen or milwild.
On my last Milwild install, everything is fluid but I can't install a single app (it's just stay on "installation" forever) and I can't wake up the screen after the phone goes to sleep.
Last but not least, my usb charger seems to have transfer problems. It's way to slow and the speed is not constant. During large transfers, comes files go corrupted. Am I usb bricked or something? I tried with another micro SD and it's the same problem;
So here I am, I really don't know what to do more? Any help?
Thanks a lot for your eventual answers!
Seems that installing a RUU solve all the problems for now, I wonder what in the process of putting a custom ROM could have caused so many differents and random problems. I'am doing the all process again to see if I can do it properly.
And again, I installed a custom ROM with CM7 hbott: impossible to download any app and the camera crashed. Any idea?
1. Don't use any D2EXT scripts with Cm7, obviously that's what caused the issue. If you NEED more space (even with cm7 hboot) try using DarkTremor's A2SD.
2. Before you flash a new ROM, do a FULL wipe (either from fastboot or recovery) - erase boot, system, userdata, cache, sd-ext (make sure you have an EXT-n partition on your sd-card, best program to use is gparted)
Desire is designed for class 4 SD card. Although some class 10's will perform at class 10 levels, many do not because of this. Kingston Class 10 being one example (I have one).
My kingston class 10, in Android, performs at class 6 speeds. Which would be ideal, but my class 10 Kingston was slower with data2sd than my class 4 sandisk.
Thanks for your answers:
Desire is designed for class 4 SD card. Although some class 10's will perform at class 10 levels, many do not because of this. Kingston Class 10 being one example (I have one).
My kingston class 10, in Android, performs at class 6 speeds. Which would be ideal, but my class 10 Kingston was slower with data2sd than my class 4 sandisk.
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Ok, I might send it back and change for another model then. But still it can't explain the problems I have
1. Don't use any D2EXT scripts with Cm7, obviously that's what caused the issue. If you NEED more space (even with cm7 hboot) try using DarkTremor's A2SD.
2. Before you flash a new ROM, do a FULL wipe (either from fastboot or recovery) - erase boot, system, userdata, cache, sd-ext (make sure you have an EXT-n partition on your sd-card, best program to use is gparted)
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I only was using this script to put the apps on the ext partition and I removed it. It's obviously not the problem since they stayed after a clean install.
I always fo a full wipe, I even formated all the partitions and my EXT partition is there and well aligned.
Here I am: I managed to "stabilise" with a gingerbread RUU, rooted and S-OFF with revolutionary.
I used RM recovery (with USB brick fix) and it seemed to help. I don't have any USB transfer problem any more.
The RUU works like a charm.
Then I tried again to install two customs romq, without any script or modification:
-on Milwild, I have still this "deep sleep" problem. I can use the camera, but I can't install any app from the market. It's stays on "installation" forever.
-On CM7 (I put the CM7r2 HBOOT with it) it starts well: I can install google maps. But then I try to open it and it freezes. Then I try to mount the FAT32 partition on my computer and it doesn't work. The cellphone also freezes when I try to reboot (there is the wheel, turning and turning, but nothing happens). SO I forced reboot, and then, google maps had just ... disappeard. I think my phone is haunted...
Isn't it strange that my cellphone is perfectly normal under RUU but can't bear any custom ROM???
I think I'm gonna go back to the RUU and try to use another SD card but I'm sceptical. If someone has a miraculous idea to share, I'll take it!!!
Thanks again
Well, rootSU, it seemed that you found the answer. I put another class 2 sd card and it seems to work again! I just spent hours on this for nothing... The strangest is that the class 10 card work perfectly when out of my phone...
Any advice about a good class 6/8/10 that could improve the performances without crashing like this?
EDIT: last question, I used the app2sd script you introduced, but I can't install any app with it, it says that I've got unsuficiant stockage space Oo.
I use.my class 10 Kingston and it works perfectly as a class 6. Plus its pretty future proof. Just no.good for data2sd.
Should work fine for everything else though
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Well, mine didn't worked at all, except the RUUs...strange! I have fully configured my class 2 SD card with simple2ext (only app on the ext partition, not data) and it works.
As I'm tireless, I'll try to put all this via nandroid on my class 10. If it could work like a class 6...
What did you use to partition the Kingston?
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I partitioned it several time, with gparted and recoveries. I'm a bit worried about some part of the hardware managing the connection with the SD card that could be partly broken. I decided to change my first SD card when I first saw a "you need to put an SD card" when I try to take a picture. I had problems with files disappearing from the SD and reappearing. Also I lost some applications that I couldn't appear. I figured the card was dying.
Then I put a new SD card, faster and with larger capacity and everything goes wrong;
Then I put the old one back and... for now, everything works.
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This is an ongoing problem for me and it's definitely not ROM related, but it makes flashing ROM's difficult, in fact downright awkward!
When installing apps from TB it will get through a couple then reboot, at which point nothing will install until I repair my ext partition (Thank God for AmonRA!). Then it will do the same thing again. It will do the same thing with installing apps from the market too, but it's not so pronounced as I don't tend to install loads of apps at once especially as I've got TB.
I found that TB worked fine with CM7 as it didn't install to the ext partition until I flashed DarkTremors aps2sd, and that worked fine as a way round the problem.
None of this happened until I upgraded my 8Gb to 16Gb sd card. The card seems fine in every respect, just the problem with installing aps :-(
Anyone with any ideas?
My previous thread on disabling aps2sd has not proved fruitful either.
David
Before I upgraded my pathetic 2gb I done a little research and the word on the street was the hero couldn't handle more than 8gb, recommended by HTC apparently!
Whether this was due to the limitations of the rom(1.6 at the time) or the hardware I don't know.
Have you tried re-formatting your SD card and making sure the ext partion is compatible with the rom your using?
dully79 said:
Before I upgraded my pathetic 2gb I done a little research and the word on the street was the hero couldn't handle more than 8gb, recommended by HTC apparently!
Whether this was due to the limitations of the rom(1.6 at the time) or the hardware I don't know.
Have you tried re-formatting your SD card and making sure the ext partion is compatible with the rom your using?
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Yeah I've reformatted and reformatted, initially I thought that the problem mgiht have been the backup files had become corrupt when transfering them over ... and yes I've tried ext2 ext3 and ext4 all with the same results (the only rom i tried which wasn't compatible with ext4 was Cronos).
Maybe its true about 8gb being the limit the hero can handle, maybe someone else can confirm or deny.
I'm sure I've seen some on here using 16Gb cards, but it would be good to know, maybe I should change to the Froyo aps2sd?
Maybe you could try doing a nandroid backup, and trying a different rom to see if it works, if not you could have a faulty SD card???
I a, using a 16 Gb card without problems, I always do a full wipe of my phone and a format of my card before flashing a new Rom. I use the aps2sc within the rom and make sure that the settings are right (install to external) before I use titanium.
I am on elelinux 6.2.0
GL
The max htc Hero should handle would be 32gb I believe. According to link 1, htc hero supports SD 2.0. While SD 2.0 is also called SDHC, which according to link 2 its max is 32gb
Maybe you should try to pull /proc/last_kmsg to see why it rebooted? (post it at pastebin.org, and place url here. Maybe we can understand it )
links:
http://www.htc.com/uk/product/hero/specification.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital
I a, using a 16 Gb card without problems, I always do a full wipe of my phone and a format of my card before flashing a new Rom. I use the aps2sc within the rom and make sure that the settings are right (install to external) before I use titanium.
I am on elelinux 6.2.0
GL
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Yeah I'm really confused as those were my settings also and I tried in on Elelinux 6.2 ... I think it must be either my Hero had a bad day it was born or the sd card did, but it always comes up clean when scanned.
snah65 said:
I a, using a 16 Gb card without problems, I always do a full wipe of my phone and a format of my card before flashing a new Rom. I use the aps2sc within the rom and make sure that the settings are right (install to external) before I use titanium.
I am on elelinux 6.2.0
GL
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16gb card here, use TB all the time and nadroid as well and never had a problem. Maybe your card has some faulty sectors. Try to copy 16gb on it on the PC and copy it back to your pc after you've made sure nothing was cached. Or try scandisk to see if a part of the flash is broken, maybe.
Using a cheap ebay-bought Team 16GB Class6 with TB, flashing and nandroids. No issues whatsoever. Works great!
I've scanned the disk multiple times, not tried a full 16gb transfer ... and I'll get the log output in a minute or two
output of /proc/last_kmsg
http://pastebin.com/0rpNHFF8
Thanks in advance!
Edit: It got to installing around 15apps this time before crashing. It varies as to when it dies, but it will. I even considered that it was overheating, or due to OC'ing, but it does the same thing regardless of temp or CPU speed
i also use 16gb sd card for 3 or 4 months and nothing ever happens like that. everything works perfect...
Have a feeling that it's corrupt, as I have a new problem with installing anything, I now get told there's not enough room to install or updates apps ... when there's plenty ... arrrgggg!
if 16gb isn't working for you, send the card to me. I have a working 2gb you can have instead.
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if 16gb isn't working for you, send the card to me. I have a working 2gb you can have instead.
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Haha that's really funny.
Actually I ran some scans, fsck's and reformats with repair options, and if it wasn't for the reboot issue and instability issues I have with Elelinux 7.0.3 then I'm sure I've got it fixed... I hope ...
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Im using a SCLD GSM Desire rooted. Ive used Gingerbread versions of Oxygen, CM7, and currently on MIUI XJ but all freeze up on me often(almost daily) and battery pulls are required to revive.
The freezes do not happen with my 2GB Samsung SD card that came with the phone, but i have used 3 brand new Sandisk 16GB Class 4 SD cards and it crashes on all. This is regardless of whether i have Apps2SD enabled or not. I have looked for last_kmsg after the crashes on CM7 and Oxygen, but the file is never present after a battery pull, if i reboot normally i will get an old last_kmsg file from a few months back.
Was transferring about a gig of music to my phone currently on MIUI XJ 1.12.2, and after i unmounted USB storage it froze up and crashed.
The SD card im currently using was bought at a Virgin store, so im sure it wouldnt be a fake. I hope someone can help troubleshoot, im completely out of ideas!!
Thanks a tone in advance!
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Im using a SCLD GSM Desire rooted. Ive used Gingerbread versions of Oxygen, CM7, and currently on MIUI XJ but all freeze up on me often(almost daily) and battery pulls are required to revive.
The freezes do not happen with my 2GB Samsung SD card that came with the phone, but i have used 3 brand new Sandisk 16GB Class 4 SD cards and it crashes on all. This is regardless of whether i have Apps2SD enabled or not. I have looked for last_kmsg after the crashes on CM7 and Oxygen, but the file is never present after a battery pull, if i reboot normally i will get an old last_kmsg file from a few months back.
Was transferring about a gig of music to my phone currently on MIUI XJ 1.12.2, and after i unmounted USB storage it froze up and crashed.
The SD card im currently using was bought at a Virgin store, so im sure it wouldnt be a fake. I hope someone can help troubleshoot, im completely out of ideas!!
Thanks a tone in advance!
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which version of MIUI-XJ ie.. A2SD or XPart or D2W?
You can try the following:
1. take nand backup, titanium backup & miui backup
2. download the full rom
3. full wip/wip cache/wip dalvik
4. flash the rom, if you are using cm7r2 hboot you might have to flash market cache fix.
5. let the rom reboot automatically and then let it settle for 15-20 mins
6. go to super user and make sure you enable ROOT permission ON.
7. power-off and power-on, restore your apps.
Thanks for help, appreciate it. I'm running the apps2sd version. Will flash according the method you have suggested. Since I'm on apps2sd, any reformatting/repartitiin you recommend?
Right now for the 16gb class 4 card I have a 1gb ext3 partition created using gparted.
You partitionend your SD card with an FAT32 partition and an EXT partition. If you partitionend in that order and set both partitions primary, you are ready for A2SD/A2SD+.
But please use "A2SD" if you are talking about the script which moves apps automatically to EXT partition, because with "app2sd" you could also mean the FroYo-App2SD and this would be very confusing.
Thanks for the help guys. I repartitioned and reflashed miui according to the procedures you'll mentioned. So far its been running fine, except that I had to use the terminal to reinstall a2sd yesterday, but still no crashes.
So far I have not put any music on the phone since last time it crashed when I filled up the SD. Now that I'm certain the installation is clean after using it for the past few days, ill go ahead and fill up some muswic tomorrow and will post back here.
So the phone crashes everyday now. Noticeably after I enabled a2sd amd moved dalvik.
Need to perform battery pulls to revive the phone and there is no last_kmsg after a reboot.it really kills me everytime I need to pull out the battery, hopefully someone can help troubleshoot!
I have the same problem. It's do not freeze only with stock hboot
Since I'm rooted on custom rom, any way to use a stock hboot now?
yes, you can use any rom with stock hboot. but you will not have much memory for applications
just checked, im on stock hboot.
do you have any other ideas ?
maybe here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1393132
After failing to get 3 of my 16gb sandisk cards working, I tried my Samsung 2gb that came with the phone. This card is working flawlessly for the past month (or however long its been). I'm using a 512mb partition with apps and cache moved to SD with zipalign running and its never crashed.
Does anyone have any ideas? Can't really load any music into such a small card
I have a similar problem.
My phone crashes every time I browse fast trough my picture gallery (I have a lot of pictures) or I use an app that accesses the SD card continuously for several minutes.
For instance, it happens when I do a batch backup with Titanium Backup for all my applications.
I tried the official ROMs and custom ROMs (Cyanogen, DevNull) but the problem persisted.
I sent the device to HTC and they replaced the mainboard.
I tried then the latest official ROM and I faced the same problem.
I switched again to Cyanogen and the same problem appeared.
I have to mention that all this time I used a 8GB SD card (I tried several different cards with the same result) and no App2SD.
Now I'm using the card delivered by HTC together with the device and the problem is gone.
This card is only 4GB (the brand is Samsung) but it seems to work flawless.
My advise is to try a 4GB card and see if it works.
I'm on Seb's Runnymede ROM for quite some time. Because of the well known "freezing problem" I wanted to test something else.
So I tried Mildwild's CM and oxygen based ROMS and recently the newest ICS ROM by Sandvold. When I flash these ROMs "clean" they boot but I can't use my sd card. It's like there's no card inserted at all. If I install extra mods like dalvik2sd or ad2sdx immediately after the rom, my phone doesn't boot.
I wiped everything a few times, and even repartitioned my card with 4EXT recovery. Could it be the ext4 partition? I've searched through both threads for the same issue, but can't find anything similar.
EDIT: I tried ICS with A2SD, dalvik to nand (3rd option) and I was able to boot, but again sd card not found...
What SD Card do you have? have you partitioned using gparted and tried? and Seb's Runnymede doesnt have a freezing problem.... can you elaborate the freezing issue? maybe i could help.
I have a samsung 16GB class 6 card (This one). I always use 4EXT recovery to partition my card. It's also advised in Seb's thread to partition with 4EXT. I used Gparted live before, but always ran into problems. Don't know why, I followed the guide. I'll try it again when I got some time.
I know it's not caused by Runnymede, but I want to test another ROM to see if it happens more/less frequent. That's when I realised I can't install another ROM. Hence this thread.
I'm yet to try an older card (class2 sandisk) with these roms. Also, that card didn't have freezing problems with runnymede, but was awfully slow.
recovery can see the sd card i guess?
might be worth booting gparted just to see if you can see the ext partition?
Yes, recovery shows the card, partition alignment is OK, usb diskdrive works as intended,... When I format and repartition my card, I notice that the partitions are not completely empty. I guess this is normal? I'll try gparted tonight.
Ok I didn't try gparted because I couldn't find any cdrs to create a bootable disk again.
But... I tried my other sd card (Sandisk 8GB class 2). Formatted and partitioned by 4EXT. I Installed ICS Beta 0.4.1.1 with ad2sdx option. Booted without problems, recognised my sd card immediately, no problems.
Definitely a problem with that samsung card. Or a compatibility issue. I'm still confused about that, but at least I know what's the problem now.
mby USB Brick? 4EXT touch had bug with that
yes I know. When I "reboot to recovery" SD card can't be found. I need to power off completely and boot to recovery.
And sometimes the phone gets USB bricked after flashing a ROM. But there's a tool in the latest 4EXT version to unbrick.
I'm running RunnyMede AOI on the class 2 card now. Everything is ok, no freezes (yet). I'm a bit worried about the AD2SDX script on class 2 though.
Is it better to have apps on the SD card or the SD card's second partition that I created, and If I flash a rom will they still be installed if they're in either location? I have the Samsung Extreme Speed Class 10 16GB Micro SDHC card.
Should I use the built-in a2sd or Link2sd, should the second partition be ext 3 or 4 and how should I format it?
I'm using ICS for HTC Desire 0.5.1, default HBoot, Clockworkmod Recovery Touch 5.8.0.2, aGPS and default homescreen with no scripts.
Thanks.
I can recommend to use Stock A2SD with EXT4 (fastest type). Partition size: => 512 MB.
Thanks for your response.
Yep apps on the ext partition. More advantageous. Saves space and doesn't break widgets. Apps are accessible even on USB mode.
Thanks also.
If I make an ext4 partition on my SD card and use the built-in a2sd with ICS for Desire, it will move all apps (including davlik, data and cache) to the second partition with the ability to move them back if needed?
If I flash a rom will they still be installed if they're in either location?
Yes, as far as I know, it moves all apps from your internal data to your ext partition.
a2sd supports moving your apps back, type "a2sd" to get a list of supported commands. The ones you are searching for are propably "a2sd nocachesd", "a2sd nodatasd" or maybe "a2sd noxdata", depending on the option you chose at installation.
If you flash a new rom, it depends on the rom and your installation setup, whether your apps remain or not.
If you flash a rom with the same a2sd script without wiping, your apps should remain. They will be lost in any other case. Always backup to be sure!
I have tried a few times with the A2SD script in (Sandvold's) ICS - but always get problems:
Very slow - at boot-up the "Preparing SD card" takes along time, and also for Apex launcher to internally catalogue the apps before being able to display their icons.
Worse still is downloading from the market, which takes 5x the length of time.
It is true I 'only' have a class 4 sd card - but others have reported this is OK.
I have ordered a class 10 card which will be with me shortly.
The worse problem is the phone keeps prompting me to input my SIM card number, and asking to reboot.
I am on stock HBOOT (but also previously tried cm7r2), I have tried stock and Tiamat kernals, and I have tried all different kinds of a2sd scripts. In some cases I have still run out of space, even though I have 1gb of ext4.
I am currently on Apex launcher, Tiamat kernal - and leaving apps where they are .... but I miss some of my favourites.
This configuration is stable - so I am hoping the new class 10 sd card will do the trick.
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I have tried a few times with the A2SD script in (Sandvold's) ICS - but always get problems:
Very slow - at boot-up the "Preparing SD card" takes along time, and also for Apex launcher to internally catalogue the apps before being able to display their icons.
Worse still is downloading from the market, which takes 5x the length of time.
It is true I 'only' have a class 4 sd card - but others have reported this is OK.
I have ordered a class 10 card which will be with me shortly.
The worse problem is the phone keeps prompting me to input my SIM card number, and asking to reboot.
I am on stock HBOOT (but also previously tried cm7r2), I have tried stock and Tiamat kernals, and I have tried all different kinds of a2sd scripts. In some cases I have still run out of space, even though I have 1gb of ext4.
I am currently on Apex launcher, Tiamat kernal - and leaving apps where they are .... but I miss some of my favourites.
This configuration is stable - so I am hoping the new class 10 sd card will do the trick.
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Class 10 SD cards are reported to be unstable on the Desire, someone may be lucky with it running properly, but a lot of people have problems; check out the forum.
Thanks for the info. However, I tried it and most apps appear to be on the SD card. I typed a2sd install, y, n, y.
Class 10 card ... my observations
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Class 10 SD cards are reported to be unstable on the Desire, someone may be lucky with it running properly, but a lot of people have problems; check out the forum.
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I saw conflicting advice on class 10 cards ... but in any case I took the plunge and ordered one from Amazon - wasn't too expensive .. 11GBP.
I set up the card from scratch via Gparted - wiped the phone and reinstalled Sandvold's 0.5.3 (Tiamat kernal, stock a2sd, Apex launcher ) turned a2sd on via terminal - moving everything ... and reinstalled all apps from the market not from TB.
Result: a very stable phone, nice and quick, no problems with download speed ... so I am pleased as punch.
Hi there!
I've got a problem with my HTC Desire sd card partition.
Every rom works fine, sd card also but it starts to force closing, freezing and randomly rebooting when I push apps to sd card using any of the A2SD scripts (except stock one). I mean, when I use roms which just need SD-EXT (such as MIUI or SpazeDog ICS) nothing seems to work uncorrectly but when I move apps all problems start. I tried many roms (MIUI, InsertCoin Sense, SpazeDog) and diffrent moving scripts (A2SD+ ; D2EXT ; and others which names i forgot) and it always caused reboots, FCs and frezzes when I pushed my apps. Can you guys tell me how to fix this problem, or is it just my SD card broken? I always partitioned card by 4EXT recovery, tried EXT3 and EXT4 file system, never made partition bigger than 1GB. My SD card is a Sandisk 16GB class 4.
Sorry for my bad english, Szotaa
An important thing is the method younused to partition your sd (a tool you used).
Also, it wouldn't be bad to buy faster sd card (class 6 or 10).
So, the solution for the problem would be using another partitioning tool? Is gpared a good choice?
Now I saw you used 4ext recovery, and it's the best tool. Gparted is the second best, but I think u need a new sd.
One more question, is your phone s-off? Some scripts need it to work properly.
Yes, my phone is s-off. So its a sd card issue. At the end could u tell me is supernova rom going to work properly, even on my sd card? Because i heard it is the stabliest d2ext ever made.
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Yes, my phone is s-off. So its a sd card issue. At the end could u tell me is supernova rom going to work properly, even on my sd card? Because i heard it is the stabliest d2ext ever made.
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Supernova recommend a certain brand of sd card to work with the rom. I cant remember it off the bat but it's stated on Droidzone's website/forum.
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Supernova recommend a certain brand of sd card to work with the rom. I cant remember it off the bat but it's stated on Droidzone's website/forum.
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Based on user feedback, we recommend a Transcend Class 6 for D2SD roms.