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APPS on SD?

Any ideas how I could get my apps onto my 4gig sd card.
I have read the tutorial but in my clockwords recovery mode, there is no option to partition.
The reason for the partition is for adding my apps to my SD card.
Currently I have tons of apps and allot of them slow my phone down.
Should this be the case? I was advised that the way android works is, it auto closes apps when the speed starts to slow down?

mobad said:
Any ideas how I could get my apps onto my 4gig sd card.
I have read the tutorial but in my clockwords recovery mode, there is no option to partition.
The reason for the partition is for adding my apps to my SD card.
Currently I have tons of apps and allot of them slow my phone down.
Should this be the case? I was advised that the way android works is, it auto closes apps when the speed starts to slow down?
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the linux kernal will close apps when it needs to but that has very little to do with where the apps actually reside.
you need to partition your card with rom manager from the market in order to enable apps2sd( not the crappy froyo apps2sd mind)
copy the contents of your card at the moment to your pc. downlaod rom manager from the market, use it to partition your card with 512mb and 32mb swap. then dowload modinstalllocation from the market, this will allow you to chose where you save your apps too. choose 1 internal( ie the 512mb ext 3 partition for apps2sd you made with rom manager). copy all your content back to your sd card. all your apps should now be in your ext3 partition. if you really want to move apps to the actual sd card main partition, choose location 2 phone with modinstallocation but beware that whenever you mount the sd card those apps wont work till its remounted( its wise not to put widgets on the sd card). to check all this info and make sure apps2sd is working correctly you can downlaod quick settings info from the market and it will give you all the info you need on internal and apps2sd storage on your phone.

Many thanks for your reply.
I have just done as you said and then downlaoded aroudn 4 apps equalling around 20mb.
They seem to be on the sd card and internal.
The size of external has gone down by around 15mb and around 5-10mb has goen down on the internal as well?

mobad said:
Many thanks for your reply.
I have just done as you said and then downlaoded aroudn 4 apps equalling around 20mb.
They seem to be on the sd card and internal.
The size of external has gone down by around 15mb and around 5-10mb has goen down on the internal as well?
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That is correct. If you are using legacy Apps2SD or Froyo Apps2SD, the Dalvik cache (see here) remains on the internal phone memory.
So, when you install a new application onto SD card, it will consume memory on internal phone memory, though at a lesser rate than if the app was installed on phone memory (in my experience, roughly half the rate).
The only way to "resolve" this is to install legacy Apps2SD+, which also moves the Dalvik cache to SD card.
Personally, I don't do this - what I do is actively manage my applications using Titanium backup. For example, I seldom use certain large apps such as Google Earth, and some games, but I do want to keep them available. So I install them on the phone, and then back them up using Titanium Backup. When storage is low, I will remove them from the phone, but I can bring them back quickly (and without using data) as required.
I don't use legacy Apps2SD+ because I do have several SD cards that I want to be able to swap between quickly.
Regards,
Dave

Dave - many thanks for your comprehensive and useful reply.
What would be the limitation for using Apps2SD+?
From your reply im assuming it would stop me from chaing sd cards?

Essentially yes - you'd need to keep the EXT partition across SD cards in sync, which while not impossible, is more difficult than just copying .android_secure folder from one card to another which I believe should work ok so long as being used in the same phone.
Regards,
Dave

Excellent.
I think im ready to set it all up.
Got two not technical final question for you -
Which rom would you recommend?
I'm currentl with Frost 2.9a however I found Modaco's custom rom to be mroe fruitful with apps/stability.
Which 16gb/32gb sd card would you recommend?
Thanks

mobad said:
Which 16gb/32gb sd card would you recommend?
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I regularly use two 16gb Class 2 Sandisk cards and a 8gb Class 6 Transcend card. To be honest, I've no performance issues with either and my Sandisk cards regular exceed Class 6 minimums. Personally, I see no point paying extra for a large capacity Class 6 or Class 10 card - I may try 720p recording on my Class 6 soon though to see if it improves the framerate, but I doubt there will be much if any difference.
Regards,
Dave

Desire Crashing frequently(possibly SD related)

Im using a SCLD GSM Desire rooted. Ive used Gingerbread versions of Oxygen, CM7, and currently on MIUI XJ but all freeze up on me often(almost daily) and battery pulls are required to revive.
The freezes do not happen with my 2GB Samsung SD card that came with the phone, but i have used 3 brand new Sandisk 16GB Class 4 SD cards and it crashes on all. This is regardless of whether i have Apps2SD enabled or not. I have looked for last_kmsg after the crashes on CM7 and Oxygen, but the file is never present after a battery pull, if i reboot normally i will get an old last_kmsg file from a few months back.
Was transferring about a gig of music to my phone currently on MIUI XJ 1.12.2, and after i unmounted USB storage it froze up and crashed.
The SD card im currently using was bought at a Virgin store, so im sure it wouldnt be a fake. I hope someone can help troubleshoot, im completely out of ideas!!
Thanks a tone in advance!

zigackly said:
Im using a SCLD GSM Desire rooted. Ive used Gingerbread versions of Oxygen, CM7, and currently on MIUI XJ but all freeze up on me often(almost daily) and battery pulls are required to revive.
The freezes do not happen with my 2GB Samsung SD card that came with the phone, but i have used 3 brand new Sandisk 16GB Class 4 SD cards and it crashes on all. This is regardless of whether i have Apps2SD enabled or not. I have looked for last_kmsg after the crashes on CM7 and Oxygen, but the file is never present after a battery pull, if i reboot normally i will get an old last_kmsg file from a few months back.
Was transferring about a gig of music to my phone currently on MIUI XJ 1.12.2, and after i unmounted USB storage it froze up and crashed.
The SD card im currently using was bought at a Virgin store, so im sure it wouldnt be a fake. I hope someone can help troubleshoot, im completely out of ideas!!
Thanks a tone in advance!
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which version of MIUI-XJ ie.. A2SD or XPart or D2W?
You can try the following:
1. take nand backup, titanium backup & miui backup
2. download the full rom
3. full wip/wip cache/wip dalvik
4. flash the rom, if you are using cm7r2 hboot you might have to flash market cache fix.
5. let the rom reboot automatically and then let it settle for 15-20 mins
6. go to super user and make sure you enable ROOT permission ON.
7. power-off and power-on, restore your apps.

Thanks for help, appreciate it. I'm running the apps2sd version. Will flash according the method you have suggested. Since I'm on apps2sd, any reformatting/repartitiin you recommend?
Right now for the 16gb class 4 card I have a 1gb ext3 partition created using gparted.

You partitionend your SD card with an FAT32 partition and an EXT partition. If you partitionend in that order and set both partitions primary, you are ready for A2SD/A2SD+.
But please use "A2SD" if you are talking about the script which moves apps automatically to EXT partition, because with "app2sd" you could also mean the FroYo-App2SD and this would be very confusing.

Thanks for the help guys. I repartitioned and reflashed miui according to the procedures you'll mentioned. So far its been running fine, except that I had to use the terminal to reinstall a2sd yesterday, but still no crashes.
So far I have not put any music on the phone since last time it crashed when I filled up the SD. Now that I'm certain the installation is clean after using it for the past few days, ill go ahead and fill up some muswic tomorrow and will post back here.

So the phone crashes everyday now. Noticeably after I enabled a2sd amd moved dalvik.
Need to perform battery pulls to revive the phone and there is no last_kmsg after a reboot.it really kills me everytime I need to pull out the battery, hopefully someone can help troubleshoot!

I have the same problem. It's do not freeze only with stock hboot

Since I'm rooted on custom rom, any way to use a stock hboot now?

yes, you can use any rom with stock hboot. but you will not have much memory for applications

just checked, im on stock hboot.
do you have any other ideas ?

maybe here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1393132

After failing to get 3 of my 16gb sandisk cards working, I tried my Samsung 2gb that came with the phone. This card is working flawlessly for the past month (or however long its been). I'm using a 512mb partition with apps and cache moved to SD with zipalign running and its never crashed.
Does anyone have any ideas? Can't really load any music into such a small card

I have a similar problem.
My phone crashes every time I browse fast trough my picture gallery (I have a lot of pictures) or I use an app that accesses the SD card continuously for several minutes.
For instance, it happens when I do a batch backup with Titanium Backup for all my applications.
I tried the official ROMs and custom ROMs (Cyanogen, DevNull) but the problem persisted.
I sent the device to HTC and they replaced the mainboard.
I tried then the latest official ROM and I faced the same problem.
I switched again to Cyanogen and the same problem appeared.
I have to mention that all this time I used a 8GB SD card (I tried several different cards with the same result) and no App2SD.
Now I'm using the card delivered by HTC together with the device and the problem is gone.
This card is only 4GB (the brand is Samsung) but it seems to work flawless.
My advise is to try a 4GB card and see if it works.

So many bugs... don't know what to do!

Hey everyone ! First I swear I don't post this because I'm too lazy to make a proper search, I've been trying to solve my problems for two days...
Ok, I'll try to sum it up. Sorry if my english goes wrong at some point, I'm french.
Having problems with my micro SD in my Desire, I bought a new one, a kingston 8go, class 10.
My desire was under CM7, was S-OFF with a modified HBOOT. And except from bugs due to my SD (sometimes it would not be recognized), everything was working.
After installing the new micro SD, i did some manipulations: wipe, reinstallation, change of radio/RIL/kernel, and unfortunately ended up with no recovery and others bugs. So I decided (at one point I did stupid stuff) to reinstall RUU aaaand as I was S-OFF with a modified HBOOT, I bricked my phone. BUt after some hours and thanks to the forum, I managed to put back a RUU.
Then I did everything properly: ROOT/S-OFF with revolutionary, wipe, micro SD partition, and CM7 installation.
THen it was hell: I tried everything from regular install to legacy2ext and SimplytoExt etc every time it's really unstable. First the all thing is slow, then I can't flash the google apps, no matter what I try. If I install an app from the market, sometimes it works, sometimes it makes the phone reboot from the boot animation, sometimes it can't install etc.. Google maps was especially unstable.
THen, 10 or 20 manipulations, formatting, reinstallations later, I decided to check other rome, like Oxygen or milwild.
On my last Milwild install, everything is fluid but I can't install a single app (it's just stay on "installation" forever) and I can't wake up the screen after the phone goes to sleep.
Last but not least, my usb charger seems to have transfer problems. It's way to slow and the speed is not constant. During large transfers, comes files go corrupted. Am I usb bricked or something? I tried with another micro SD and it's the same problem;
So here I am, I really don't know what to do more? Any help?
Thanks a lot for your eventual answers!

Seems that installing a RUU solve all the problems for now, I wonder what in the process of putting a custom ROM could have caused so many differents and random problems. I'am doing the all process again to see if I can do it properly.
And again, I installed a custom ROM with CM7 hbott: impossible to download any app and the camera crashed. Any idea?

1. Don't use any D2EXT scripts with Cm7, obviously that's what caused the issue. If you NEED more space (even with cm7 hboot) try using DarkTremor's A2SD.
2. Before you flash a new ROM, do a FULL wipe (either from fastboot or recovery) - erase boot, system, userdata, cache, sd-ext (make sure you have an EXT-n partition on your sd-card, best program to use is gparted)

Desire is designed for class 4 SD card. Although some class 10's will perform at class 10 levels, many do not because of this. Kingston Class 10 being one example (I have one).
My kingston class 10, in Android, performs at class 6 speeds. Which would be ideal, but my class 10 Kingston was slower with data2sd than my class 4 sandisk.

Thanks for your answers:
Desire is designed for class 4 SD card. Although some class 10's will perform at class 10 levels, many do not because of this. Kingston Class 10 being one example (I have one).
My kingston class 10, in Android, performs at class 6 speeds. Which would be ideal, but my class 10 Kingston was slower with data2sd than my class 4 sandisk.
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Ok, I might send it back and change for another model then. But still it can't explain the problems I have
1. Don't use any D2EXT scripts with Cm7, obviously that's what caused the issue. If you NEED more space (even with cm7 hboot) try using DarkTremor's A2SD.
2. Before you flash a new ROM, do a FULL wipe (either from fastboot or recovery) - erase boot, system, userdata, cache, sd-ext (make sure you have an EXT-n partition on your sd-card, best program to use is gparted)
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I only was using this script to put the apps on the ext partition and I removed it. It's obviously not the problem since they stayed after a clean install.
I always fo a full wipe, I even formated all the partitions and my EXT partition is there and well aligned.
Here I am: I managed to "stabilise" with a gingerbread RUU, rooted and S-OFF with revolutionary.
I used RM recovery (with USB brick fix) and it seemed to help. I don't have any USB transfer problem any more.
The RUU works like a charm.
Then I tried again to install two customs romq, without any script or modification:
-on Milwild, I have still this "deep sleep" problem. I can use the camera, but I can't install any app from the market. It's stays on "installation" forever.
-On CM7 (I put the CM7r2 HBOOT with it) it starts well: I can install google maps. But then I try to open it and it freezes. Then I try to mount the FAT32 partition on my computer and it doesn't work. The cellphone also freezes when I try to reboot (there is the wheel, turning and turning, but nothing happens). SO I forced reboot, and then, google maps had just ... disappeard. I think my phone is haunted...
Isn't it strange that my cellphone is perfectly normal under RUU but can't bear any custom ROM???
I think I'm gonna go back to the RUU and try to use another SD card but I'm sceptical. If someone has a miraculous idea to share, I'll take it!!!
Thanks again

Well, rootSU, it seemed that you found the answer. I put another class 2 sd card and it seems to work again! I just spent hours on this for nothing... The strangest is that the class 10 card work perfectly when out of my phone...
Any advice about a good class 6/8/10 that could improve the performances without crashing like this?
EDIT: last question, I used the app2sd script you introduced, but I can't install any app with it, it says that I've got unsuficiant stockage space Oo.

I use.my class 10 Kingston and it works perfectly as a class 6. Plus its pretty future proof. Just no.good for data2sd.
Should work fine for everything else though
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Well, mine didn't worked at all, except the RUUs...strange! I have fully configured my class 2 SD card with simple2ext (only app on the ext partition, not data) and it works.
As I'm tireless, I'll try to put all this via nandroid on my class 10. If it could work like a class 6...

What did you use to partition the Kingston?
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I partitioned it several time, with gparted and recoveries. I'm a bit worried about some part of the hardware managing the connection with the SD card that could be partly broken. I decided to change my first SD card when I first saw a "you need to put an SD card" when I try to take a picture. I had problems with files disappearing from the SD and reappearing. Also I lost some applications that I couldn't appear. I figured the card was dying.
Then I put a new SD card, faster and with larger capacity and everything goes wrong;
Then I put the old one back and... for now, everything works.

EXT-partition makes phone unstable.

Hi there!
I've got a problem with my HTC Desire sd card partition.
Every rom works fine, sd card also but it starts to force closing, freezing and randomly rebooting when I push apps to sd card using any of the A2SD scripts (except stock one). I mean, when I use roms which just need SD-EXT (such as MIUI or SpazeDog ICS) nothing seems to work uncorrectly but when I move apps all problems start. I tried many roms (MIUI, InsertCoin Sense, SpazeDog) and diffrent moving scripts (A2SD+ ; D2EXT ; and others which names i forgot) and it always caused reboots, FCs and frezzes when I pushed my apps. Can you guys tell me how to fix this problem, or is it just my SD card broken? I always partitioned card by 4EXT recovery, tried EXT3 and EXT4 file system, never made partition bigger than 1GB. My SD card is a Sandisk 16GB class 4.
Sorry for my bad english, Szotaa

An important thing is the method younused to partition your sd (a tool you used).
Also, it wouldn't be bad to buy faster sd card (class 6 or 10).

So, the solution for the problem would be using another partitioning tool? Is gpared a good choice?

Now I saw you used 4ext recovery, and it's the best tool. Gparted is the second best, but I think u need a new sd.
One more question, is your phone s-off? Some scripts need it to work properly.

Yes, my phone is s-off. So its a sd card issue. At the end could u tell me is supernova rom going to work properly, even on my sd card? Because i heard it is the stabliest d2ext ever made.

szotaa said:
Yes, my phone is s-off. So its a sd card issue. At the end could u tell me is supernova rom going to work properly, even on my sd card? Because i heard it is the stabliest d2ext ever made.
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Supernova recommend a certain brand of sd card to work with the rom. I cant remember it off the bat but it's stated on Droidzone's website/forum.

stankyou said:
Supernova recommend a certain brand of sd card to work with the rom. I cant remember it off the bat but it's stated on Droidzone's website/forum.
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Based on user feedback, we recommend a Transcend Class 6 for D2SD roms.

Link2SD - Not Mounting 2nd Partition after over a month of it working fine

Have been using Link2SD now for over a month without any problem.
I have a 64 GB micro-SD card formatted with 2 partitions. One is the fat32 partition for storing my own stuff (accessible through file explorer), and the other is an ext2 partition that is meant for Link2SD to "link" apps to. Both partitions are roughly of equal size (though in hindsight I would have like to make the ext2 partition smaller). I formatted + partitioned the SD card using MiniTool partition wizard in Windows.
As of yesterday the 2nd partition is not being mounted any more. I get the error as in attached screenshot. This error comes after Link2SD asks me to select what the file format of the 2nd partition is.
Because of this, all of the apps that are linked to the SD card in some way are now showing as not installed on my device (most are games, but one is a magazine-reading app). An attempt at reinstalling 1 or 2 of these apps through google play results in an error saying something like "there was an error installing this app".
I tried to search the forums on this error but most people have similar issues only when they are ~starting~ with Link2SD. I haven't found anyone who has the issue like this after using Link2SD for a bit of time...
I am wondering if there is a workaround to this. It would be nice to get those apps back onto the device at the very least (I have 4 GB of space to spare...), and at the very best get everything back to working condition again.
(note: I started to notice that certain apps started naming the SD card as a bunch of symbols instead of "SD card" as they usually do.....not sure if this is related or not)

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Should mention that I"m running a rooted device with stock ROM (took out many of the built-in apps).
I am debating whether to unmount the SD (physically take it out), and reformat the 2nd partition to ext4 or FAT32 and try again with Link2SD
What I'm afraid of is losing all those apps and not being able to reinstall them again....(as I am already getting errors with this in Google Play)

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Should mention that I"m running a rooted device with stock ROM (took out many of the built-in apps).
I am debating whether to unmount the SD (physically take it out), and reformat the 2nd partition to ext4 or FAT32 and try again with Link2SD
What I'm afraid of is losing all those apps and not being able to reinstall them again....(as I am already getting errors with this in Google Play)
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I've been having issues with it for a while myself. Sometimes after a reboot, a whole lot of apps disappear. I give it another reboot and they come back, but it's a pain in the arse because then I need to manually go place them back onto my home screen.

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I've been having issues with it for a while myself. Sometimes after a reboot, a whole lot of apps disappear. I give it another reboot and they come back, but it's a pain in the arse because then I need to manually go place them back onto my home screen.
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I have tried multiple reboots....no such luck.
I'm reading elsewhere that the culprit may be Link2SD itself. Have emailed the developer (hopefully they respond).
The ext2 partition on the card is officially or unofficially fried. I really can't see anything on it (tried several linux file system viewers). I guess I'll keep the card mounted (with half the space technically gone) until there happens to be some way to deal with this issue....

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I have tried multiple reboots....no such luck.
I'm reading elsewhere that the culprit may be Link2SD itself. Have emailed the developer (hopefully they respond).
The ext2 partition on the card is officially or unofficially fried. I really can't see anything on it (tried several linux file system viewers). I guess I'll keep the card mounted (with half the space technically gone) until there happens to be some way to deal with this issue....
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I ended up using a new card and the problem disappeared.... I'm guessing that the problem is with your card. Good luck

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I ended up using a new card and the problem disappeared.... I'm guessing that the problem is with your card. Good luck
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I tried Link2SD with 3 different SD cards.
One was a test (4 GB card or less, can't remember now), to make sure the program worked.
The other was an 8GB card. Which I eventually swapped out for...
...a 64 GB card.
I had manually partitioned the 8 and 64 GB cards prior to using them in Link2SD
I also re-partitioned the 64 GB card a 2nd time when Link2SD (and therefore my tablet itself) stopped seeing the 2nd partition on the 64 GB card.
This "breaking" problem came up on both the 8 GB and 64 GB cards.
So one of the following at fault: my tablet, 2 different SD cards, or the app itself.
I am inclined to believe it's Link2SD as the reviews on the app store say similar things to what my problem is.