actually understanding Wildifire S possibilities - HTC Wildfire S

Kind of newbie question, but it is not. Some time ago I asked help here because the wildfire s internal memory is not that large (150mb) and S2E was not helping.
The problem-- Internal memory cannot deal with all the apps I do use. But, if i put all the /data on sd card, this would slow down android too much.
First try-- I tried "int2ext+" that leaves /data/data on internal for speed: at first it seemed to work, but in a while the same problems occurred.
Secondo try-- So I tried the other version, "int2ext", that transfers /data/data too, but... sleepy times for my phone.
Right now, I am confused. I wonder how do you people handle this problem... Apart from buying a new phone...
May someone helps me?

Ok...
redlo905 said:
Kind of newbie question, but it is not. Some time ago I asked help here because the wildfire s internal memory is not that large (150mb) and S2E was not helping.
The problem-- Internal memory cannot deal with all the apps I do use. But, if i put all the /data on sd card, this would slow down android too much.
First try-- I tried "int2ext+" that leaves /data/data on internal for speed: at first it seemed to work, but in a while the same problems occurred.
Secondo try-- So I tried the other version, "int2ext", that transfers /data/data too, but... sleepy times for my phone.
Right now, I am confused. I wonder how do you people handle this problem... Apart from buying a new phone...
May someone helps me?
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Well instead of int2ext(which F***ed my rom) flash data2sd.zip after u made the partision in CWM recovery (link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39695479#post39695479) Hope it helps
Good Luck
James
P.S: DONT FORGET TO CREATE THE PARTISION BEFORE FLASHING IT!!!

Thank you, James, I'll give a try with data2sd!
In the meantime, I'd like to understand what is occupying so much space in /data/data .

I believe All the Google Apps and other preinstalled apps that have to be fast (for example phone app, message app and so on)

I remember that MIUI HC 3.2, found on this website, was fast enough. Maybe, as tech grows, apps sets bigger data in /data/data. Anyway, I'm wondering how do you guys handle this problem. Therefore, I suppose I'm doing something wrong myself.
Anyway, this week I'm sadly free. So, I'll give a try.

Try upgrading your sd card to class 10, this will help solve your problem

Maybe is just your SD Card, I've int2ext installed (with cyanogen mod) and a class 6 card. It's a bit slow but I can use the phone with problems. Check your SD card, if there isn't any number printed on it probably you have a class2 o lower...

A good hint. My sd card is class 4, I'll try upgrading anyway. I'll let you know, guys.

Success!
I've bought a samsung SD card 8 giga and class 10. Wiped everything, partitioning, flashing rom with int2ext and... one day after, it seems it's really working: the phone is faster, more responsive.
Even thought, next time i'm buying such a mobile phone, i'll seriously care the internal memory to be larger than 2 giga.
Thank you all, guys!

redlo905 said:
Success!
I've bought a samsung SD card 8 giga and class 10. Wiped everything, partitioning, flashing rom with int2ext and... one day after, it seems it's really working: the phone is faster, more responsive.
Even thought, next time i'm buying such a mobile phone, i'll seriously care the internal memory to be larger than 2 giga.
Thank you all, guys!
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Cool good to hear from you

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Ext partition with Evo

So i know on my magic i always had a Swap partition, EXT, and fat32...
Seems like when i got my Evo, the SD card only had a fat32 and no EXT.
When installing custom roms, Should i just go ahead and reformat the card with EXT or do we not need it on the Evo. From what i know of the EXT partition and working with my magic for so long, i would assume it still needs to be there but it was just odd that it wasn't there from the factory when i got my phone.
TIA
IMO, a2sd isn't necessary on this one
I have almost 60 apps installed (including the behemoth Google Earth), yes I know how ridiculous that is, and I still have over 200MB internal storage free.
The EXT2/3 and Swap partitions didn't come stock on your Magic, either.
It's up to you. Like nebenezer said, it's really not necessary on this device. The only reason I'm running a2sd is so that I don't have to mess around with reinstalling all my apps when testing out new ROMs. That's really the only reason at this point why a2sd would be an advantage. In fact, unless you're using a class 6 SD card (which the provided card is not), it actually probably slows down the phone a bit when launching applications.
Ahhh.. So EXT is pretty much only for A2SD? Thought there was some other info on there...
And i know what swap is..
Cool. THX
frettfreak said:
Ahhh.. So EXT is pretty much only for A2SD? Thought there was some other info on there...
And i know what swap is..
Cool. THX
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pretty much, you can move dalvik to sd and I think data/data too but like CentroniX said unless you have a c6 or greater card your better off skipping a2sd on this phone.
Not having to reinstall your apps is convenient but when I flash a new rom I wipe EVERYTHING anyways. I always like to start with a clean flash so if there are any problems I know its not one of my apps. Plus titanium backup makes it very easy to restore everything.

Linux/ext3 SD card partition issues.

Hey all I am hoping someone has a little experience with Linux and can give me a helping hand. Today I bought a new Samsung 8gb class 6 Micro SD card and I want to transfer the data from my ext3 partition on my class 4 to my class 6.
I have nothing on the class 6, I have installed Linux to a USB stick and I have formatted the SD drive with a 512mb 0 swap ext3 partition however, it won't give me any access to the partition it's self. I was thinking I could just use Ubuntu to go in, partition (yes I know I can use ROM Manager ) take the card out, and put in the old one copy and paste the ext3 partition to the desktop and just drag and drop back. But it doesn't seem to be the case.
I am gettin some write/read errors or something of the sort, it's driving me up the wall. I could spend all night trying to read through Linux code to try to work out how to do it, so I thought I'd see if someone knew off the top of their head or knew of a better/easier way for me to swap data from one partition to another, I can't seem to find a useful thread on it searching the forums either.
Does anyone have any ideas, or an easier solution?
I'm also having a problem with this. Any suggestions?
you could do a nandroid backup with your old card, partition your new sd card, copy the backup to the fat partiton on your new card, then use the advanced restore option to restore the ext to the new sd card (if that makes sence) lol
AndroHero said:
you could do a nandroid backup with your old card, partition your new sd card, copy the backup to the fat partiton on your new card, then use the advanced restore option to restore the ext to the new sd card (if that makes sence) lol
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That made perfect sense mate! Worked perfectly thanks.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
AndroHero said:
you could do a nandroid backup with your old card, partition your new sd card, copy the backup to the fat partiton on your new card, then use the advanced restore option to restore the ext to the new sd card (if that makes sence) lol
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I might give that a go, I never did find an answer to my post.
I've given the shiny new fast SD card to the girlfriend now as well as I really didn't want to hard reset the phone and start over, own goal. I might see if I can pinch it back and put it in mine, it's not like she needs a class 6 for a Wildfire. ^_^
Kalavere said:
I might give that a go, I never did find an answer to my post.
I've given the shiny new fast SD card to the girlfriend now as well as I really didn't want to hard reset the phone and start over, own goal. I might see if I can pinch it back and put it in mine, it's not like she needs a class 6 for a Wildfire. ^_^
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my brother has a wildfire, i take the mick owta him all the time cuza it just swap em, a girl wouldnt notice
reudyfam said:
That made perfect sense mate! Worked perfectly thanks.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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cool man, glad i could help
AndroHero said:
my brother has a wildfire, i take the mick owta him all the time cuza it just swap em, a girl wouldnt notice
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I quite like the little phone, it shouldn't come with Sense though, it kills it. I've put LauncherPro on it and it flys for what she uses it for, facebook, e-mails, Twitter and all that. Shame the 768Mhz overclock isn't stable enough to run 24/7.
Kalavere said:
I quite like the little phone, it shouldn't come with Sense though, it kills it. I've put LauncherPro on it and it flys for what she uses it for, facebook, e-mails, Twitter and all that. Shame the 768Mhz overclock isn't stable enough to run 24/7.
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i cant do with the screen res mate, i used to have a hero, that only had a hvga screen, but the qvga screen looks awful on the wildfire, the sence widgets look crap too, i might try n convince my brother to flash openfire on it

[Q] [How To] Replacing micro SDcard (rooted)

Hello!
I'm running Eclair on my DEFY, it's rooted via z4root.
I currently hold a 2GB microSD card and, as the volume of the apps is getting higher, I wish to upgrade to a 16GB microSD (a SunDisk one).
But I'm wondering if there's more to do then simply copy the apps to a temporary directory on my pc then fill in the new card.
Anyone has yet upgraded?
--- edit: made a deep search on the forum and find out I need a class 6/8 microSD, then I have to format prior to copy up everything that was on the old microSD.
Anything else should I know?
Cheers,
C*
Nothing special to do.
Just copy your actual SD contents on the new one and Go!
I went from the 2GB for a 8GB like this without any tricks...
etherea said:
--- edit: made a deep search on the forum and find out I need a class 6/8 microSD, then I have to format prior to copy up everything that was on the old microSD.
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Class 6/8 is not needed, my 8GB is a Class2 and it work absolutly fine!
For apps the data rate ofthe SD is not really important, 'cause u'll never load large amount off data each time. And SD card are still very very very slow against RAM.
Flash memory have good random access time, that's much important than data rate.
Good data rate are only for large file transfert from/to an other device (PC, etc)
Last thing: by default le SD is not use for app installation on the defy, they use the 2GB internal memory.
You should use some App2Sd for extend this, and it's better to have Android 2.2 then.
Apps in android 2.1 arent stored on the sd card without a mod available on this phone yet.
Instead it is stored on the 2gb internal memory which should be pleanty for lots of apps
Le_Poilu said:
Nothing special to do.
Just copy your actual SD contents on the new one and Go!
I went from the 2GB for a 8GB like this without any tricks...
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Fine, I thought there were some special "needings", I was stuck to the Motorola A1210 that was a bit tricly because of some apps hidden here and there on the microSD.
Le_Poilu said:
Last thing: by default le SD is not use for app installation on the defy, they use the 2GB internal memory.
You should use some App2Sd for extend this, and it's better to have Android 2.2 then.
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Actually the major part of the apps is installed on the microSD, I've checked several times and the percentage is so parted:
Apps/Things on the microSD 85%
Apps/Things on the Phone 23%
I'm not using any program to move stuff, but I'm intrigued by App2SD.
So thanks again =)
add.thebad said:
Apps in android 2.1 arent stored on the sd card without a mod available on this phone yet.
Instead it is stored on the 2gb internal memory which should be pleanty for lots of apps
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As said in the previous reply, I can see stuff is stored on the microSD mainly..
No just copy the stuff from you old card to the new one. And as for class 6/8 I'm using a class 4 and its fine
etherea=> dont mix apps installation et apps data
The apps files are installed on the internal memory, but every app can use SD (intern or extern, whatever is present on the phone) for store datas.
Think about GPS software. This kind of soft need 1, 2 or more GB for maps storage.
The apps itself is on the "apps" space on the internal memory and all the maps stuff are on SD (intern or extern)
You can use software like diskusages to see what is where
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As said in the previous reply, I can see stuff is stored on the microSD mainly..
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Apps are not stored on the sd, however some apps data is.
Well thank you both, I still need to read a lot about the phone and aout Android but your answers did clarify a bit =)
Then, I upgraded to a 8GB SanDisk microSD with no problem.
The only minor issue was a duplicate of a couple of non-vital directories and related data, which were wiped out almost in a second.
Everything's working fine and have now much more space to fill in =)
Thanks everyone for the suggestions and hints!
Guys I'm about to replace my micro sd with Kingston 16gb class 4 but, don't laugh , I cant remove the old one. What do i do? There is a red plastic thingy so i guess it holds it, but do i pull it or what ? Sorry for the dump question.
Deyan_pk said:
Guys I'm about to replace my micro sd with Kingston 16gb class 4 but, don't laugh , I cant remove the old one. What do i do? There is a red plastic thingy so i guess it holds it, but do i pull it or what ? Sorry for the dump question.
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Have you tried to pull it up?
It's a bit hard to get removed, try with a fine stick, I made it using my nails =)

Titanium Back & 16Gb memory card

This is an ongoing problem for me and it's definitely not ROM related, but it makes flashing ROM's difficult, in fact downright awkward!
When installing apps from TB it will get through a couple then reboot, at which point nothing will install until I repair my ext partition (Thank God for AmonRA!). Then it will do the same thing again. It will do the same thing with installing apps from the market too, but it's not so pronounced as I don't tend to install loads of apps at once especially as I've got TB.
I found that TB worked fine with CM7 as it didn't install to the ext partition until I flashed DarkTremors aps2sd, and that worked fine as a way round the problem.
None of this happened until I upgraded my 8Gb to 16Gb sd card. The card seems fine in every respect, just the problem with installing aps :-(
Anyone with any ideas?
My previous thread on disabling aps2sd has not proved fruitful either.
David
Before I upgraded my pathetic 2gb I done a little research and the word on the street was the hero couldn't handle more than 8gb, recommended by HTC apparently!
Whether this was due to the limitations of the rom(1.6 at the time) or the hardware I don't know.
Have you tried re-formatting your SD card and making sure the ext partion is compatible with the rom your using?
dully79 said:
Before I upgraded my pathetic 2gb I done a little research and the word on the street was the hero couldn't handle more than 8gb, recommended by HTC apparently!
Whether this was due to the limitations of the rom(1.6 at the time) or the hardware I don't know.
Have you tried re-formatting your SD card and making sure the ext partion is compatible with the rom your using?
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Yeah I've reformatted and reformatted, initially I thought that the problem mgiht have been the backup files had become corrupt when transfering them over ... and yes I've tried ext2 ext3 and ext4 all with the same results (the only rom i tried which wasn't compatible with ext4 was Cronos).
Maybe its true about 8gb being the limit the hero can handle, maybe someone else can confirm or deny.
I'm sure I've seen some on here using 16Gb cards, but it would be good to know, maybe I should change to the Froyo aps2sd?
Maybe you could try doing a nandroid backup, and trying a different rom to see if it works, if not you could have a faulty SD card???
I a, using a 16 Gb card without problems, I always do a full wipe of my phone and a format of my card before flashing a new Rom. I use the aps2sc within the rom and make sure that the settings are right (install to external) before I use titanium.
I am on elelinux 6.2.0
GL
The max htc Hero should handle would be 32gb I believe. According to link 1, htc hero supports SD 2.0. While SD 2.0 is also called SDHC, which according to link 2 its max is 32gb
Maybe you should try to pull /proc/last_kmsg to see why it rebooted? (post it at pastebin.org, and place url here. Maybe we can understand it )
links:
http://www.htc.com/uk/product/hero/specification.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital
I a, using a 16 Gb card without problems, I always do a full wipe of my phone and a format of my card before flashing a new Rom. I use the aps2sc within the rom and make sure that the settings are right (install to external) before I use titanium.
I am on elelinux 6.2.0
GL
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Yeah I'm really confused as those were my settings also and I tried in on Elelinux 6.2 ... I think it must be either my Hero had a bad day it was born or the sd card did, but it always comes up clean when scanned.
snah65 said:
I a, using a 16 Gb card without problems, I always do a full wipe of my phone and a format of my card before flashing a new Rom. I use the aps2sc within the rom and make sure that the settings are right (install to external) before I use titanium.
I am on elelinux 6.2.0
GL
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16gb card here, use TB all the time and nadroid as well and never had a problem. Maybe your card has some faulty sectors. Try to copy 16gb on it on the PC and copy it back to your pc after you've made sure nothing was cached. Or try scandisk to see if a part of the flash is broken, maybe.
Using a cheap ebay-bought Team 16GB Class6 with TB, flashing and nandroids. No issues whatsoever. Works great!
I've scanned the disk multiple times, not tried a full 16gb transfer ... and I'll get the log output in a minute or two
output of /proc/last_kmsg
http://pastebin.com/0rpNHFF8
Thanks in advance!
Edit: It got to installing around 15apps this time before crashing. It varies as to when it dies, but it will. I even considered that it was overheating, or due to OC'ing, but it does the same thing regardless of temp or CPU speed
i also use 16gb sd card for 3 or 4 months and nothing ever happens like that. everything works perfect...
Have a feeling that it's corrupt, as I have a new problem with installing anything, I now get told there's not enough room to install or updates apps ... when there's plenty ... arrrgggg!
if 16gb isn't working for you, send the card to me. I have a working 2gb you can have instead.
dkelley said:
if 16gb isn't working for you, send the card to me. I have a working 2gb you can have instead.
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Haha that's really funny.
Actually I ran some scans, fsck's and reformats with repair options, and if it wasn't for the reboot issue and instability issues I have with Elelinux 7.0.3 then I'm sure I've got it fixed... I hope ...
Sent from my Hero using XDA App

Redpill kernel/memory problem still

Hi Folks,
So I installed Redpill and sure enough the ex SD was swapped to internal giving me 32gb memory so I started downloading my stuff onto it bit now any updates or any new apps will not download to it even though there is still 19gb left on it instead it seems to be trying to download to the original internal memory which is full.
this issue is such a pain for such a great phone
please help
jackdaripper said:
Hi Folks,
So I installed Redpill and sure enough the ex SD was swapped to internal giving me 32gb memory so I started downloading my stuff onto it bit now any updates or any new apps will not download to it even though there is still 19gb left on it instead it seems to be trying to download to the original internal memory which is full.
this issue is such a pain for such a great phone
please help
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You really can't expect to be able to do that without a hitch. Check out directory bind. It's not perfect either but it seems more reliable than swapping the whole sd card with internal
Sent from the mighty Note II
dr.m0x said:
You really can't expect to be able to do that without a hitch. Check out directory bind. It's not perfect either but it seems more reliable than swapping the whole sd card with internal
Sent from the mighty Note II
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Why not?? ... it was working perfectly at 1st now nothing
memory swap not happening
Dear all,
I have the redpill kernell installed in my note2.
The memorycard I use is a fat32 64GB Sandisk(fresly formatted in my device and checked on a pc).
After use the settings in misc with fat 32 and a reboot nothing happens.
When checking, there are no changes.
Also not when checking with total commander.
What am I doing wrong here.
Thanks for any advice.
Gert
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