Does anyone know if I use voodoo OTA rootkeeper to temp unroot my verizon galaxy nexus (toro) and install the new OS jellybean will I loose the root.
If I can do this will it save all my data and stuff and just update my present operating system without having to do a factory reset.
Are you on stock or a custom ROM? If you're going to flash a custom ROM to get to Jelly Bean, you're going to lose everything. It's a clean install of the OS, and custom ROMs are pre-rooted.
Temp unrooting and then wiping the OS to install a new one makes no difference
I am stock rom.
I won't loose what is on my SD card right?
I just flashed stock jellybean ota update using cwm an was on ICS with root an still didn't lose anything, you don't have to unroot to update, I just reinstalled super su after ota update an my root came back an I didn't even need voodoo, you will only lose all your apps when you flash the full jellybean image, ota updates are fine an you keep everything from before.
susieq29 said:
I won't loose what is on my SD card right?
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If you've already unlocked the bootloader to root, then no you won't lose your SDcard. Custom recoveries used to flash ROMs don't wipe the /sdcard/ path.
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slayr76 said:
I just flashed stock jellybean ota update using cwm an was on ICS with root an still didn't lose anything, you don't have to unroot to update, I just reinstalled super su after ota update an my root came back an I didn't even need voodoo.
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Well his situation will be different with a CDMA model because he has to flash a custom ROM to do it, meaning he's wiping the entire OS.
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hi i just upgrading my phone from 4.0.2 to 4.0.4 imm76i (gsm/hspa+ without google wallet),
i am going to root the phone by cwm recovery, then i have some questions:
when i was on 4.0.2, i rooted the box by cwm, and when i want to do update by OTA, i have to refresh back to the original recovery in the factory 4.0.2 image to apply the package, and that's what i have done...
so here is the question: if i root it by cwm again, and then flash the new recovery.img from factory 4.0.4 image download from "https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#yakjuimm76i"
to the phone, will it keep the ability to OTA to next android version? in another way, is there any difference between OTA & factory image OR, is there a identification to know that whether this device flashed a factory image or ota from a previous version?
ok, then if do not mv/rm /system/recovery-from-boot.p after flash cwm(for root), will it restore the stock recovery and keep the ability to do OTA?
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hi i just upgrading my phone from 4.0.2 to 4.0.4 imm76i (gsm/hspa+ without google wallet),
i am going to root the phone by cwm recovery, then i have some questions:
when i was on 4.0.2, i rooted the box by cwm, and when i want to do update by OTA, i have to refresh back to the original recovery in the factory 4.0.2 image to apply the package, and that's what i have done...
so here is the question: if i root it by cwm again, and then flash the new recovery.img from factory 4.0.4 image download from "https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#yakjuimm76i"
to the phone, will it keep the ability to OTA to next android version? in another way, is there any difference between OTA & factory image OR, is there a identification to know that whether this device flashed a factory image or ota from a previous version?
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The ota is usually just the parts of the rom that have been updated, those image files are the whole rom, if u root u will be able to get the ota but it won't install even with factory recovery,I haven't done it since my N1 but if I remember right u can delete super user from system app folder and delete,--- com.noshufou.android.su and reboot and root should be gone then ota will work and after u update u just root agn .... but your way u did it is always an option ....
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The ota is usually just the parts of the rom that have been updated, those image files are the whole rom, if u root u will be able to get the ota but it won't install even with factory recovery,I haven't done it since my N1 but if I remember right u can delete super user from system app folder and delete,--- com.noshufou.android.su and reboot and root should be gone then ota will work and after u update u just root agn .... but your way u did it is always an option ....
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thank u for response, i tried to update to 4.0.4 from rooted 4.0.2, and everything is ok.. according to your condition, i think there may be some difference between nexus S and galaxy nexus, so root is not the question(though i met some problem while rooting 4.0.4 caused by the version of su.zip is out of date ).
now i am on 4.0.4 and rooted by cwm, and i didn't delete /system/recovery-from-boot.p, i hope that i will not have to re-flash stock recovery when the next OTA come
When you say that is rooted through CWM, means what exactly? You only used the CWM to root the device? But how?
yep cause i wanna use stock rom on my GN so far, so i use cwm only for root(by flashing a su.zip), and after googled a lot, i think it has went back to stock recovery now, no longer worry about OTA, thank you
erics_lu said:
hi i just upgrading my phone from 4.0.2 to 4.0.4 imm76i (gsm/hspa+ without google wallet),
i am going to root the phone by cwm recovery, then i have some questions:
when i was on 4.0.2, i rooted the box by cwm, and when i want to do update by OTA, i have to refresh back to the original recovery in the factory 4.0.2 image to apply the package, and that's what i have done...
so here is the question: if i root it by cwm again, and then flash the new recovery.img from factory 4.0.4 image download from "https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#yakjuimm76i"
to the phone, will it keep the ability to OTA to next android version? in another way, is there any difference between OTA & factory image OR, is there a identification to know that whether this device flashed a factory image or ota from a previous version?
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No difference. If you did not delete the two files (/system/etc/install-recovery.sh and /system/recovery-from-boot.p) then your device will automatically flash the correct stock recovery on every re-boot.
EDIT: Actually there is one difference: the OTA places those two files on your system, while a full stock ROM does not.
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ok, then if do not mv/rm /system/recovery-from-boot.p after flash cwm(for root), will it restore the stock recovery and keep the ability to do OTA?
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Yes.
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if u root u will be able to get the ota but it won't install even with factory recovery
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This is wrong. Rooting has no impact whatsoever on being able to install an OTA update.
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No difference. If you did not delete the two files (/system/etc/install-recovery.sh and /system/recovery-from-boot.p) then your device will automatically flash the correct stock recovery on every re-boot.
Yes.
This is wrong. Rooting has no impact whatsoever on being able to install an OTA update.
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thank you so much, explained so detailed
Im running the stock ICS rom, samurai kernel, and twrp recovery. I received a system update notification this morning and it wont go away. What will happen if I allow it? Is there a way to install the update with twrp?
since you do not have stock recovery or kernel, it will download the OTA, then fail on trying to install.
if you want to accept the OTA and it actually install correctly, you need to have stock system, kernel, recovery, radio, and bootloader.
I really like the stock rom, is there a way to prevent the update notification? I found this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21485951&postcount=4 but dont know where to find the build.prop file. Ive been looking with root explorer but dont see it anywhere
EDIT: Never mind I found it
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I really like the stock rom, is there a way to prevent the update notification? I found this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21485951&postcount=4 but dont know where to find the build.prop file. Ive been looking with root explorer but dont see it anywhere
EDIT: Never mind I found it
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That will not work. You need to change it to this:
ro.build.fingerprint=google/takju/maguro:4.1.1/JRO03C/398337:user/release-keys
or better yet, you should change it to the latest fingerprint from a Sprint ROM.
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Or even better yet: flash the stock kernel, apply the update, root, flash your custom kernel.
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Or even better yet: flash the stock kernel, apply the update, root, flash your custom kernel.
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The update will work with the stock kernel even though Im rooted and have custom recovery? I assumed the only way to apply the update would be to go back to stock using Odin, something I really dont feel like messing with
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The update will work with the stock kernel even though Im rooted and have custom recovery? I assumed the only way to apply the update would be to go back to stock using Odin, something I really dont feel like messing with
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Yes. Flash the stock kernel for your build, get the OTA update from here and flash it in TWRP. Then you will have to flash a root zip package again to keep root.
I am currently on ICS 4.0.4 stock AT&T, rooted, CWM installed.
Will the update to JB unroot the phone?
What about the apps I have installed and personal data?
Will it replace CWM back with stock recovery mode?
Please explain if you know how it's gonna work
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I am currently on ICS 4.0.4 stock AT&T, rooted, CWM installed.
Will the update to JB unroot the phone?
What about the apps I have installed and personal data?
Will it replace CWM back with stock recovery mode?
Please explain if you know how it's gonna work
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Well, you won't be able to install it over the air since those updates require the stock recovery to be in place. To maintain root you'd have to wait until somebody posts a rooted version of the room and flash it via Odin.
I'm assuming you can keep your personal data as is, since when I flashed via Odin from Stock to Rooted it remained.
Hi,
I might sound dumb but will I be ablle to get OTA updates if I install custom recovery and root.
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Hi,
I might sound dumb but will I be ablle to get OTA updates if I install custom recovery and root.
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No. OTA updates require stock recovery. However, you can revert to stock recovery and unroot as you please. Also, you can flash OTA updates through TWRP once a flashable zip is made, except you have to download it and flash it manually, just like installing a custom ROM. Cheers.
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I received the last update through OTA on a rooted Stock ROM with TWRP installed.
After the install was finished TWRP asked if I wanted to restore the root. All went smoothly.
To clarify.. I did not flash the ROM. I used the normal OTA update.
tigerdim said:
I received the last update through OTA on a rooted Stock ROM with TWRP installed.
After the install was finished TWRP asked if I wanted to restore the root. All went smoothly.
To clarify.. I did not flash the ROM. I used the normal OTA update.
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I believe you can on small point updates. The full update from 4.3 to 4.4 most likely won't work with a custom recovery.
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I believe you can on small point updates. The full update from 4.3 to 4.4 most likely won't work with a custom recovery.
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you must have stock /system folder + stock recovery
you can be rooted, by if you delete some files in /system - you break your ota
new ota will be with new radio too
after ota super-su apk will be removed by the ota
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i restored /system apps from sdcard before 4.3 ota and migrate very well from 4.2.2
The ota 4.3 update removed my root and Twrp. Hope 4.4 doesn't do the same. It's always a pain for me to restore root with my Windows 7 laptop. It keeps installing the wrong usb drivers which get in the way of the wugfresh toolkit access to the nexus 7. So it's no easy task for me.
I have looked around and can't seem to get a straight answer about this. I have a stock rooted gn2, if i update over the air will it brick it? At the moment i have the att updater frozen with titanium backup. Any insight would be greatly appreciated, happy holiday!
where have you been searching? This has been covered dozens of times...
sorry
could you possibly provide a link sir?
generally speaking you can NOT take/install any OTA update when you are rooted...most OTA updates wont install if a custom recovery is detected.
99% of the time it wont work, .09% of the time it might install but you will have all sorts of issues, and .01% of the time it will work..
I think that pretty much covers it; you should probably just be patient and wait until the dev's incorporate it into a custom rom, and then you wont have to unroot to "enjoy" what ever the wonderful features are that ATT was so kind to include in their update..
And the install checks for stock system
You can install if you have stock rom. Root doesn't matter. My phone was rooted with stock room and twrp recovery. I just flashed stock recovery back. I had my superuser integrated in system partition. After Ota, i upgraded superuser apk. It then disabled Knox and download latest su binary.
So successful update with root preserved. Pm me of you need help
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WARNING :
If you take the official OTA to 4.3 while root is present...you WILL trip the KNOX counter in your boot loader.
And if you root after an official 4.3 update you WILL trip KNOX anyway..
My .02....DO NOT UPDATE....
Stay rooted on the old bootloader and flash a custom 4.3 rom.....g
Wife is getting a new AT&T note 2 on the 24th (it already shipped). I would assume it doesn't have the OTA on it yet. Can you just reject the OTA when it arrives? Or will it try to install automatically on the new phone. Any way to prevent that until I can get my hands on it (have time tio mess with it).
Anyone try flashing a rom After ota update?
Did you thank your Developer today?
Same boat
I too have a stock rooted 4.1.2. OTA fails as root present, got that. All I need is a stock 4.3 root. I have read several posts and still unclear as to what to do. I have either missed it or just not found the answer.
Do I need to unroot via SuperSU? then OTA? Odin flash a stock ROM?
Please don't bash as I am only seeking an answer. And any help is greatly appreciated!
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I too have a stock rooted 4.1.2. OTA fails as root present, got that. All I need is a stock 4.3 root. I have read several posts and still unclear as to what to do. I have either missed it or just not found the answer.
Do I need to unroot via SuperSU? then OTA? Odin flash a stock ROM?
Please don't bash as I am only seeking an answer. And any help is greatly appreciated!
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I had stock rooted 4.1.2 with cwm as my recovery. I did the ota update. After the update, cwm wanted to fix root but couldn't. Essentially I lost root. Next, I re-rooted with CF-Auto-Root. I then installed SuperSU from play store which disabled Knox. Using GooManager I flashed TWRP. The last issue was wifi wasn't working. I used Odin to flash this file: http://d-h.st/OYC (unzip and use the tar in Odin). Wifi restored. Overall I like this update. It's faster and smoother.
Having said all this, I do not recommend anyone use this method. It's much cleaner to unroot then update. Or better yet, as suggested before, use one of the custom 4.3 roms.
flymacs said:
I had stock rooted 4.1.2 with cwm as my recovery. I did the ota update. After the update, cwm wanted to fix root but couldn't. Essentially I lost root. Next, I re-rooted with CF-Auto-Root. I then installed SuperSU from play store which disabled Knox. Using GooManager I flashed TWRP. The last issue was wifi wasn't working. I used Odin to flash this file: link removed (unzip and use the tar in Odin). Wifi restored. Overall I like this update. It's faster and smoother.
Having said all this, I do not recommend anyone use this method. It's much cleaner to unroot then update. Or better yet, as suggested before, use one of the custom 4.3 roms.
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I noticed the OTA did not work on my nine as I got the "unable to update" after the OTA downloaded. I initially rooted via the CF-Auto flash.
Just curious as to next step.
flymacs said:
I had stock rooted 4.1.2 with cwm as my recovery. I did the ota update. After the update, cwm wanted to fix root but couldn't. Essentially I lost root. Next, I re-rooted with CF-Auto-Root. I then installed SuperSU from play store which disabled Knox. Using GooManager I flashed TWRP. The last issue was wifi wasn't working. I used Odin to flash this file: http://d-h.st/OYC (unzip and use the tar in Odin). Wifi restored. Overall I like this update. It's faster and smoother.
Having said all this, I do not recommend anyone use this method. It's much cleaner to unroot then update. Or better yet, as suggested before, use one of the custom 4.3 roms.
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So you had no trouble flashing TWRP? I went back to 4.1.1 from Skynote, OTA'd 4.1.2 and was going to flash another ROM but my wife got my phone the next morning to play slots and she accepted the 4.3 official update before I woke up. I did root with CF Auto and disabled Knox, but was wondering if Goomanager would work.
The next question is can we flash some ROMS with the rooted OTA 4.3?
Geeve
Is there a pre-rooted stock 4.3 for the i317 AT&T available?
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So you had no trouble flashing TWRP? I went back to 4.1.1 from Skynote, OTA'd 4.1.2 and was going to flash another ROM but my wife got my phone the next morning to play slots and she accepted the 4.3 official update before I woke up. I did root with CF Auto and disabled Knox, but was wondering if Goomanager would work.
The next question is can we flash some ROMS with the rooted OTA 4.3?
Geeve
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Goomanager worked fine. No problems with twrp either.
As far as flashing on from ota 4.3, I'm not brave enough yet.
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cordless89 said:
I noticed the OTA did not work on my nine as I got the "unable to update" after the OTA downloaded. I initially rooted via the CF-Auto flash.
Just curious as to next step.
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Did you debloat or remove any apps from the stock 4.1.2?
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Goomanager worked fine. No problems with twrp either.
As far as flashing on from ota 4.3, I'm not brave enough yet.
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Did you debloat or remove any apps from the stock 4.1.2?
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Nope, pretty much as stock as you can get plus root. OTA failed but I assume reason being the root... but I'm a newbie on this stuff.
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Nope, pretty much as stock as you can get plus root. OTA failed but I assume reason being the root... but I'm a newbie on this stuff.
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Then the next question I have is if you are using the stock recovery? I was using cwm on stock rooted 4.1.2. When I did the ota, the phone rebooted into cwm. Cwm asked if I wanted to do the update. I selected yes. When it completed, the Samsung installer gave a failed to install message, but cwm showed that it completed and wanted to fix root. It couldn't fix since I was unrooted at this point. I rebooted into 4.3 non-rooted. Re-rooted...etc.
I want to say again that I don't recommend anyone follow this procedure. I'm just trying to describe how I solved my own mess and hopefully answer any questions.