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OTA: unroot and defrost but after?

So, like most people this morning, got the OTA notif. I'm on stock Rogers roms but rooted. What's the best way to get that update without having to restore phone? Don't care if i lose root or CWM as we can get them back.

polish_pat said:
So, like most people this morning, got the OTA notif. I'm on stock Rogers roms but rooted. What's the best way to get that update without having to restore phone? Don't care if i lose root or CWM as we can get them back.
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As long as you never flashed the modified recovery (Clockwork, etc..) then you can do the update and wont lose anything but root. But since you have CWM installed, you'll need to flash the stock ROM (like I did) and retry the update. I didn't lose any settings when I flashed the fully stock Rogers ROM.

and after, how do i root again?

Just Odin the LG1 image from this thread. It will update you to LG1 and include root in the process.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426
*edit* just noticed you are in Rogers.
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Root Phone T-Mo update questions

If I root my phone and Tmo sends an OTA update, will my phone still be rooted?

I don't believe you have to reset the flash count for this. But you do need to flash unrooted stock ROM first. Then get the OTA update. After that root again.

Thank you for the response.
I had another phone I rooted and when Tmo tried to push the update, Recovery mode caught it. I could never get the phone out of recovery mode after that. I got rid of the phone.
I don't want that to happen again obviously and why I asked the question. Seems to me, returning to stock, the rerooting might be more trouble than it's worth unless I had some compelling reason to do so.

JosephL said:
Thank you for the response.
I had another phone I rooted and when Tmo tried to push the update, Recovery mode caught it. I could never get the phone out of recovery mode after that. I got rid of the phone.
I don't want that to happen again obviously and why I asked the question. Seems to me, returning to stock, the rerooting might be more trouble than it's worth unless I had some compelling reason to do so.
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Here is the easiest method of managing root with this device: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957720
I like managing the background auto start processes to make my devices run much more smoothly. Which is why I like to root. Back up is another reason.
At this point I believe staying stock while rooted right now would help in the process of unrooting for updates.
There is going to be at least two or more updates. First update to get our multi-window, Swift Key Flow keyboard and other stuff that should of been in our Note 2 devices. Another update that will be enabling our LTE radio (when T-Mobile rolls out LTE). Jelly Bean 4.2 Android OS update should be updated somewhere in between these other updates (possibly at the same time as the enabling LTE update). So you are correct in thinking first before rooting.

JaguarXT said:
So you are correct in thinking first before rooting.
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Uh huh. I see a stock ROM in my future.
Thanks.

JaguarXT said:
At this point I believe staying stock while rooted. right now would help in the process of unrooting for updates.
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So you are saying, root but leave stock. Will the updates require me to unroot to receive them if I leave it stock?

Correct
Root and leave stock just my idea. Makes things easier when unrooting. But that is just my idea.
Always make a backup stock rom to unroot with. Or you can use the stock rom from this thread here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...FIRMWARE] SGH-T889 Factory Image (Unmodified) This is gold here.
After each OTA update you should make a backup of your stock rom as your latest stock rom. We should have a latest version of stock rom posted in our forum. But always best to use your latest backup image for stock rom. Again: This is gold here.
Read the thread that I gave you above.
But yes, unrooting before you can take OTA update. Take OTA update. Then root again.
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JaguarXT said:
But yes, unrooting before you can take OTA update. Take OTA update. Then root again.
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According to this guy all I need to do is flash the stock recovery, then I can take the update, then just flash Clockwork recovery once the update is taken and by what I think he's saying I don't have to unroot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VVyQRdsnaA&feature=channel&list=UL
Does this sound right?

Flashing stock rom will unroot your Galaxy Note 2. Basically put your Galaxy Note 2 back in to the same unmodified state that you bought it. Then OTA update. Then root.
Yes, I would take the OTA updates for now. They are important.
Also remember to backup your stock rom after OTA update. This will be the new stock rom for you to flash when you need to.
Sorry that I didn't explain what the process of unrooting was with GN2. Didn't have time, while with family. That is why I gave you the links.

JaguarXT said:
Flashing stock rom will unroot your Galaxy Note 2. Basically put your Galaxy Note 2 back in to the same unmodified state that you bought it. Then OTA update. Then root.
Yes, I would take the OTA updates for now. They are important.
Also remember to backup your stock rom after OTA update. This will be the new stock rom for you to flash when you need to.
Sorry that I didn't explain what the process of unrooting was with GN2. Didn't have time, while with family. That is why I gave you the links.
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would voodoo rootkeeper work for unrooting a stock rom, taking the ota update, then using voodoo again to regain root?
the only thing ive done to my phone is root, but i still want the ota updates for multi-window, etc later on.

JosephL said:
Thank you for the response.
I had another phone I rooted and when Tmo tried to push the update, Recovery mode caught it. I could never get the phone out of recovery mode after that. I got rid of the phone.
I don't want that to happen again obviously and why I asked the question. Seems to me, returning to stock, the rerooting might be more trouble than it's worth unless I had some compelling reason to do so.
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I dont have this phone yet but I know in most android you can disable updates in the settings so you dont run into those kinda problems
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JaguarXT said:
Flashing stock rom will unroot your Galaxy Note 2. Basically put your Galaxy Note 2 back in to the same unmodified state that you bought it. Then OTA update. Then root.
Yes, I would take the OTA updates for now. They are important.
Also remember to backup your stock rom after OTA update. This will be the new stock rom for you to flash when you need to.
Sorry that I didn't explain what the process of unrooting was with GN2. Didn't have time, while with family. That is why I gave you the links.
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when you install custom roms doesnt that make ota s moot? or does the device still retain updated functionality when using custom rooted rom ?

It all depends on what is going with the OTA. Some OTA updates might enable hardware that was otherwise dormant. LTE sure would be nice...
Hastily spouted for your befuddlement

heiNey said:
would voodoo rootkeeper work for unrooting a stock rom, taking the ota update, then using voodoo again to regain root?
the only thing ive done to my phone is root, but i still want the ota updates for multi-window, etc later on.
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No, Voodoo rootkeeper would not work here. Not needed either.
When you root Galaxy Note 2 it sets a "Modified" status to your Galaxy Note 2. As long as your Galaxy Note 2 status is set to "Modified" then you can't get OTA updates. This is why you have to flash Stock ROM back into your GN2. I am hoping and believing that you don't have to reset the flash count for this. At least that was not the case with Sprint OTA update version. The OTA updater just checks if you are unmodified or modified. If you are modified then the updater will tell you that you can't update because you are "Modified". Again this is the reason for flashing the Stock unrooted ROM. Once you flash Stock ROM then you will have "Unmodified" status. That is when you will be able to get OTA updates.
Please get the Stock recovering ROM and be ready to flash it when OTA update is ready.
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I dont have this phone yet but I know in most android you can disable updates in the settings so you dont run into those kinda problems
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when you install custom roms doesnt that make ota s moot? or does the device still retain updated functionality when using custom rooted rom ?
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Yes, root disables the updates through the status of "Modified". In fact when you try to update it says that you can't update because your GN2 is "Modified". But there are reasons that people want OTA updates: If you want your Multi-window feature, Swift Key Flow keyboard w/ S pen write to text, etc then you want the OTA update. If you want the LTE enable when T-Mobile rolls out LTE, then you want OTA update at that time And I can go on....
That is why people are asking these very good questions.

And in either case, within 24 hrs of any updates being released we'll have that rom in a .zip here on xda pre-rooted and ready to flash. I don't mess with counters, rooting/unrooting, etc... It'll be here!

farfromovin said:
And in either case, within 24 hrs of any updates being released we'll have that rom in a .zip here on xda pre-rooted and ready to flash. I don't mess with counters, rooting/unrooting, etc... It'll be here!
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Firstly messing with counters is mostly likely not needed. So that should not be a worry. Just to be noted.
Secondly, I hope that you are correct on that. But I been there thinking that community would do so but didn't. And least not for a while. And when they did found ways around to root again, it was not the way we wanted it. So I learned to not to put all my eggs in one basket.
Flashing Stock recovery ROM, taking the OTA updates, then root again is one of the baskets that all should have. If you don't need then no harm done. But if need and don't have it then harm done. A solution to the problem until another solution comes by.

heiNey said:
would voodoo rootkeeper work for unrooting a stock rom, taking the ota update, then using voodoo again to regain root?
the only thing ive done to my phone is root, but i still want the ota updates for multi-window, etc later on.
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I was wondering this as well. In the past I have had success with getting updates and using apps that required root by simply using the Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper app, but I don't know if it will work on this particular phone or not.
I suppose it's worth a shot to at least try when an update rolls around because if it works it's a lot easier than flashing back to stock and re-rooting again.
*Edit: Ah never mind, saw JaguarXT's reply saying it won't work. In that case I think I will hold off rooting the Note II for the time being.

JaguarXT said:
No, Voodoo rootkeeper would not work here. Not needed either.
When you root Galaxy Note 2 it sets a "Modified" status to your Galaxy Note 2. As long as your Galaxy Note 2 status is set to "Modified" then you can't get OTA updates. This is why you have to flash Stock ROM back into your GN2. I am hoping and believing that you don't have to reset the flash count for this. At least that was not the case with Sprint OTA update version. The OTA updater just checks if you are unmodified or modified. If you are modified then the updater will tell you that you can't update because you are "Modified". Again this is the reason for flashing the Stock unrooted ROM. Once you flash Stock ROM then you will have "Unmodified" status. That is when you will be able to get OTA updates.
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I am currently rooted and do not show the "Modified" status. I am also able to check for OTA updates. I believe it is bad information like this which is allowing people to feel it's OK to run amok with their phones. I feel this promotes the "need" for ROMs when most users could simply sit down with a launcher and customize it exactly the way they want it without a custom ROM. Now if I was getting some amazing battery life, or additional functionality that I can't live without, I might look at a ROM or two, but this isn't a Nexus, and stock\rooted\personalized works for me.
For those wanting to ROOT only, and that would be my recommendation, follow these instructions and STOP where he says STOP HERE.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1975560

Here is a couple of screen shots of what I was talking about. After stock recovery ROM no more "Modified" and can accept updates. Only after rooting get "Modified". Right I am rooted for backup and for AutoStarts app. But I did tried methods and know what works.
This is the method I know and tried of going back to stock and ready for OTA.
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mdt73 said:
Now if I was getting some amazing battery life, or additional functionality that I can't live without, I might look at a ROM or two, but this isn't a Nexus, and stock\rooted\personalized works for me.
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That's exactly where I am in all this. I plan NO custom roms because I'm sick of my phone not working.
I just want to do a few things that require root on the stock rom and for the things I want, I don't need a custom recovery.

[Q] i317 lost root after 4.1.2 update

I'm running a rooted stock I317M with nothing modified except for root. I used mrRobinson's thread h t t p :/ / forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2004650 as a guide which worked perfectly to keep everything stock (and thus avoid tripping the flash counter) but gave me root. This morning the Canadian carriers began rolling out the 4.1.2 update OTA which failed a few times on my device so I used (GASP!) Kies to do the update. Not sure if it would have mattered OTA or Kies but I have now lost root. Has anyone managed to inject root into a stock image for the I317m yet? It looks like I could go with a custom AT&T I317 build or ADB in and manually install a custom recovery, root etc. but if possible I'm hoping to keep normal device status and not trip the flash counter.

Are you planning on turning your phone in for warranty anytime soon or do you just like the look of "Official" instead of "Modified" on your About Phone settings?

Exact same thing happened for mine, stock rooted Canadian OTA to 4.1.2 failed repeatedly, Had to use Kies as well and lost root. The main reason I wanted root was to switch off fast dormancy since my Canadian carrier doesn't support it and was killing battery. Good news is it stayed switched off.

[email protected] said:
Are you planning on turning your phone in for warranty anytime soon or do you just like the look of "Official" instead of "Modified" on your About Phone settings?
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Not really. Originally it was just to make sure I'd get the update without issue when it was released. My understanding is that I can always reflash with the stock firmware I have from Sammobile and it will reset the flash counter + set the status back to normal if the need arose but also thought it easier to just unroot, reboot and uninstall SU if possible.

chris19000 said:
Not really. Originally it was just to make sure I'd get the update without issue when it was released. My understanding is that I can always reflash with the stock firmware I have from Sammobile and it will reset the flash counter + set the status back to normal if the need arose but also thought it easier to just unroot, reboot and uninstall SU if possible.
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Cool.... Honestly, I never worry about tripping the counter unless I need to turn in for replacement/warranty repair. Apparently, this seems to work just fine: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2073141&highlight=lost+root

m4runner said:
Exact same thing happened for mine, stock rooted Canadian OTA to 4.1.2 failed repeatedly, Had to use Kies as well and lost root. The main reason I wanted root was to switch off fast dormancy since my Canadian carrier doesn't support it and was killing battery. Good news is it stayed switched off.
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First time I've actually heard of fast dormancy. My battery life has actually been pretty good and that with fairly varied, heavy use. Have to look more into it. I rooted primarily for backing up (TB), remote file sharing and just plain messing around.

[email protected] said:
Cool.... Honestly, I never worry about tripping the counter unless I need to turn in for replacement/warranty repair. Apparently, this seems to work just fine: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2073141&highlight=lost+root
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Thanks R1K, I looked at that earlier and still might try it after a little more in depth reading if nothing else presents itself. I use the camera fairly extensively and although it looks like the camera is only affected when patching the exploit I have to be a little cautious since I use it for work. Plus the easy unroot/stock return part :good:

m4runner said:
Exact same thing happened for mine, stock rooted Canadian OTA to 4.1.2 failed repeatedly, Had to use Kies as well and lost root. The main reason I wanted root was to switch off fast dormancy since my Canadian carrier doesn't support it and was killing battery. Good news is it stayed switched off.
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One option which is what I did, was to download the 4.1.2 update from sammobile.
I then used mobile odin to flash it which has the ability to protect root.
So now I am stock rooted on latest firmware device status is normal
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[email protected] said:
Cool.... Honestly, I never worry about tripping the counter unless I need to turn in for replacement/warranty repair. Apparently, this seems to work just fine: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2073141&highlight=lost+root
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Doubt this will work.
The whole way this gained root was via the exynos exploit.
This firmware I am pretty sure has patched it.
Exynos abuse says no but voodoo app says yes.
I can confirm the exploit is patched in this new firmware so I suspect this will close any holes used by exynos abuse app to root phone.

Canadoc said:
One option which is what I did, was to download the 4.1.2 update from sammobile.
I then used mobile odin to flash it which has the ability to protect root.
So now I am stock rooted on latest firmware device status is normal
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Doubt this will work.
The whole way this gained root was via the exynos exploit.
This firmware I am pretty sure has patched it.
Exynos abuse says no but voodoo app says yes.
I can confirm the exploit is patched in this new firmware so I suspect this will close any holes used by exynos abuse app to root phone.
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Thank you Canadoc. Might be the best bet for me too. I did a TB backup just prior to the update so maybe I'll flash back to 4.1.1 with the root injected ROM in odin and then flash the 4.1.2 update from sammobile from mobile odin. Otherwise looks like it might be a custom i317 build for me. CWM sure sounds nice right now

For those trying to get multiveiw update and are rooted.... it is much much easier ti go get the firmware from sammobile.com then flash it with mobile odin with the ever root option.. all done :thumbup:
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twanskys204 said:
For those trying to get multiveiw update and are rooted.... it is much much easier ti go get the firmware from sammobile.com then flash it with mobile odin with the ever root option.. all done :thumbup:
Sent from my SGH-I317 using xda premium
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That's for sure. I'm going to go back to root injected stock 4.1.1 and start from scratch.

chris19000 said:
That's for sure. I'm going to go back to root injected stock 4.1.1 and start from scratch.
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Worked as planned... more or less. Had to do a factory reset and flash twice to get 4.1.1 to boot but from there installed mobile odin, extracted and flashed from 4.1.2 (from sammobile and copied to external SD) and good to go. Now, if you want to go stock with root and for whatever reason don't want to/can't use mobile odin, head over to this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2004650&page=26 mrRobinson is working on injecting root into the stock builds.
Cheers.

Which is the better way ?
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Worked as planned... more or less. Had to do a factory reset and flash twice to get 4.1.1 to boot but from there installed mobile odin, extracted and flashed from 4.1.2 (from sammobile and copied to external SD) and good to go. Now, if you want to go stock with root and for whatever reason don't want to/can't use mobile odin, head over to this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2004650&page=26 mrRobinson is working on injecting root into the stock builds.
Cheers.
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I use the Mr. Robinsons thread to stock my device to 4.1.1 but when i did . it always stuck on the Samsung logo after rebooting.
so i have to put my phone in recovery mode and factory restore.
this wasy right now i have root on 4.1.1 .
but i wanna know the best way to update my phone to 4.1.2
becasue i know .. with OTA i will loose my root.
please help.

prashant19p said:
I use the Mr. Robinsons thread to stock my device to 4.1.1 but when i did . it always stuck on the Samsung logo after rebooting.
so i have to put my phone in recovery mode and factory restore.
this wasy right now i have root on 4.1.1 .
but i wanna know the best way to update my phone to 4.1.2
becasue i know .. with OTA i will loose my root.
please help.
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Hi prashant there are a number of ways you can update OTA without losing root but of the easy ones I can only speak personally about one of them - Mobile Odin - which is what I used. It's a paid app but it gives you the option for EverRoot which maintains root across roms and automatically installs itself and SU in the new rom. Hate to ask, but are you sure you flashed the right rom? He has it listed as the new! Bell rom under January. If you flash that with his directions it should work - that being said though I did have to flash it twice myself to get it to work. One flash with odin, stuck on logo, back to regular recovery, wipe cache, download mode and reflash with odin, worked that time around. By that time I had mobile odin and flashed the regular update without root that way but mobile odin kept my root.

If you're looking to retain or regain root after ota, this is the easiest way imo. Just answered it in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2156741

Froid said:
If you're looking to retain or regain root after ota, this is the easiest way imo. Just answered it in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2156741
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Thanks Froid. SuperSU seemed to work for some folks too if they dropped the dime for the PRO version. I did see some instances where neither worked too though, but not enough details to say why.

all you need to do is just reflash with odin rooted 4.1.1 stock rom then once that is done goto play store and get voodoo ota rootkeeper make backup then temp unroot then get the ota 4.1.2 update when finished goto to ota rootkeeper and restore root works just fine and u keep root.

Unroot to accept update

Hi,
I have a rooted Sprint GS3, running the stock ROM with just one or two root based apps. Do I need to unroot to accept the OTA update? If so, how do I go about doing that?

TheSapient said:
Hi,
I have a rooted Sprint GS3, running the stock ROM with just one or two root based apps. Do I need to unroot to accept the OTA update? If so, how do I go about doing that?
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if you would like to run a 4.3 stock ROM, there are a couple in the development section that you can choose from without having to run the 4.3 boot loader that contains KNOX. That way you don't have to go through the unroot process to accept the OTA.

jdelano said:
if you would like to run a 4.3 stock ROM, there are a couple in the development section that you can choose from without having to run the 4.3 boot loader that contains KNOX. That way you don't have to go through the unroot process to accept the OTA.
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Thanks. I think the preference is to accept the OTA. If we need to unroot, we'll do that if we can figure out how. Sorry for being a little vague. I'm trying to help someone else out.

ok, you can go here Restore to unrooted MD4 follow that and you're good to go

I was stock rooted with clockwork recovery.
Took the OTA without unrooting with no problems at all, just had to re-root when it was done.

dotNETProgrammer said:
I was stock rooted with clockwork recovery.
Took the OTA without unrooting with no problems at all, just had to re-root when it was done.
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Really? I thought it was always a bad idea with a custom recovery. Maybe we will try it rooted as well. Thanks.

Every other time I've tried it would download, but just wouldn't flash the OTA.
This time, it did. Surprised me.

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I got the update notification today when i woke up and when i clicked the restart and install it went to recovery mode, i panicked and clicked reboot (honestly still dont know what to do),
and restarted the phone without updating
I'm running stock 4.1.2 with just 2 root apps (superuser) and tatanium backup, how can i update ?
thanks

mjkubba said:
I got the update notification today when i woke up and when i clicked the restart and install it went to recovery mode, i panicked and clicked reboot (honestly still dont know what to do),
and restarted the phone without updating
I'm running stock 4.1.2 with just 2 root apps (superuser) and tatanium backup, how can i update ?
thanks
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Relax . You do not have to update. You do not have to lose Root. Check out THIS thread. It will explain a few things to you in detail about Updates, and how to stop the update nag. If you want to update to the latest TW 4.3 Stock Rooted, check out the thread HERE. Just make sure you read, and read again before doing anything. Also make sure to download the correct Rom. There are several versions on the thread.

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Relax . You do not have to update. You do not have to lose Root. Check out THIS thread. It will explain a few things to you in detail about Updates, and how to stop the update nag. If you want to update to the latest TW 4.3 Stock Rooted, check out the thread HERE. Just make sure you read, and read again before doing anything. Also make sure to download the correct Rom. There are several versions on the thread.
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Thanks for the answer.
I actually want to update to stock 4.3, and I was trying to achieve that by getting the OTA update.
And i was wondering if i can still do that?
If I simply can't then I'll just go to CM instead of getting other rooms since I used to have them with my old HTC.
Thanks again

If you want completely Stock Rooted 4.3, it's the second link I posted for you. It's the Stock, Rooted, Factory Rom, with Knox removed. All done by CNexus . Just be sure to read before doing anything. As there are several versions posted. I would highly suggest going this route instead of taking the OTA update. Once you take the OTA you will have Knox, and a different bootloader.
TEAM MiK MikROMs Since 3/13/11

Thanks a lot man, I'm having a problem installing the ROM, I'm getting assert error (status 7) error when trying to install the odexed rom,
I have just updated my CWM to 6.0.4.5
Sorry I cant reply to the thread directly, need 10 posts to be able to do so.
MJ
edit: now it's stuck on boot loop
edit: I downloaded the original recovery rom and installed it from ordin, then updated phone through kies. it's all good now.

[Q] Plz Help 4.3 down to 4.1.2. rooted tried a few

So I'm by no means super knowledgable with this stuff but I've rooted a few phones, played around with CM on my old evo but for the most part I enjoy rooted stock.
I have Galaxy S3 Sprint 4.3 updated OTA from a rooted (4.1.2). When I took the OTA I lost root, no big deal I used Odin and flashed the CF auto root, it said it removed knox and I had root back. Cool!
In short 4.3 sucked, wanted to downgrade back so things like TrevE mod would work again and it wouldn't be so buggy. I tried to use odin to flash "KIES_HOME_L710VPBMD4_L710SPRBMD4_1130792_REV03_user_low_ship.tar.md5" but it gave me the "Use Kies Recovery and error occured" message.
So I then used odin and flashed TWRP and my phone booted.
I'm back on 4.3 rooted.
I've tried picking through the forums and interwebz for answers but I get mixed messages and info on international versions and what not.
I'm tired of trying to figure it out and really could use some help downgrading back to 4.1.2
Thanks,
Brandon

mentorkyrom said:
So I'm by no means super knowledgable with this stuff but I've rooted a few phones, played around with CM on my old evo but for the most part I enjoy rooted stock.
I have Galaxy S3 Sprint 4.3 updated OTA from a rooted (4.1.2). When I took the OTA I lost root, no big deal I used Odin and flashed the CF auto root, it said it removed knox and I had root back. Cool!
In short 4.3 sucked, wanted to downgrade back so things like TrevE mod would work again and it wouldn't be so buggy. I tried to use odin to flash "KIES_HOME_L710VPBMD4_L710SPRBMD4_1130792_REV03_user_low_ship.tar.md5" but it gave me the "Use Kies Recovery and error occured" message.
So I then used odin and flashed TWRP and my phone booted.
I'm back on 4.3 rooted.
I've tried picking through the forums and interwebz for answers but I get mixed messages and info on international versions and what not.
I'm tired of trying to figure it out and really could use some help downgrading back to 4.1.2
Thanks,
Brandon
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The 4.3 OTA installed a locked bootloader, which will prevent you from ODIN'ing back to a previous version. you can flash any ROM you would like from recovery, you CANNOT downgrade the bootloader. As of right now, if you have knox, you are stuck with it.
You are extremely lucky that you didn't brick your phone by using odin to flash a non-4.3 tar. I wouldnt try again.
My advice is, remain rooted with a custom recovery, and find a ROM to your liking, and flash that.
I have also heard that we cannot flash custom kernels on the knox (MK3) bootloader as well, but I havent verified that.

eletendre84 said:
The 4.3 OTA installed a locked bootloader, which will prevent you from ODIN'ing back to a previous version. you can flash any ROM you would like from recovery, you CANNOT downgrade the bootloader. As of right now, if you have knox, you are stuck with it.
You are extremely lucky that you didn't brick your phone by using odin to flash a non-4.3 tar. I wouldnt try again.
My advice is, remain rooted with a custom recovery, and find a ROM to your liking, and flash that.
I have also heard that we cannot flash custom kernels on the knox (MK3) bootloader as well, but I havent verified that.
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Thank you for the response. Is CyanogenMod an option then? If I go to CM could I flash back a stock 4.3 rom in the future?
As an added bonus question does CM allow wifi tethering?
Again thank you for the response.

mentorkyrom said:
Thank you for the response. Is CyanogenMod an option then? If I go to CM could I flash back a stock 4.3 rom in the future?
As an added bonus question does CM allow wifi tethering?
Again thank you for the response.
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CM is certainly an option. In fact, its what i am running now. CM11 12-24. Runs great. You can always odin the stock mk3 tar and go back to stock unrooted, at any time.
in order to flash cm11 you MUST be on TWRP 2.6.3.1 or CWM 6.0.4.5 or newer or the assert check will fail.
not sure on the tethering, but im pretty sure it definitely works on cm10.2 and i think it does on 11 as well, but dont quote me on that.

eletendre84 said:
CM is certainly an option. In fact, its what i am running now. CM11 12-24. Runs great. You can always odin the stock mk3 tar and go back to stock unrooted, at any time.
in order to flash cm11 you MUST be on TWRP 2.6.3.1 or CWM 6.0.4.5 or newer or the assert check will fail.
not sure on the tethering, but im pretty sure it definitely works on cm10.2 and i think it does on 11 as well, but dont quote me on that.
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Tethering is available on CM11 just like it was on 10.2; would strongly recommend latest Philz Touch Recovery over either TWRP or CWM though. Although it is based on CWM, it has proven to be pretty much the superior recovery option for flashing any Android build number, plus it is highly customizable.
Philz Touch Recovery

this is how to downgrade
mentorkyrom said:
So I'm by no means super knowledgable with this stuff but I've rooted a few phones, played around with CM on my old evo but for the most part I enjoy rooted stock.
I have Galaxy S3 Sprint 4.3 updated OTA from a rooted (4.1.2). When I took the OTA I lost root, no big deal I used Odin and flashed the CF auto root, it said it removed knox and I had root back. Cool!
In short 4.3 sucked, wanted to downgrade back so things like TrevE mod would work again and it wouldn't be so buggy. I tried to use odin to flash "KIES_HOME_L710VPBMD4_L710SPRBMD4_1130792_REV03_user_low_ship.tar.md5" but it gave me the "Use Kies Recovery and error occured" message.
So I then used odin and flashed TWRP and my phone booted.
I'm back on 4.3 rooted.
I've tried picking through the forums and interwebz for answers but I get mixed messages and info on international versions and what not.
I'm tired of trying to figure it out and really could use some help downgrading back to 4.1.2
Thanks,
Brandon
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do a factory data reset then use odin auto root from computer ok...... after boot u will get a security message supersu will be unfortunately stopping this is ok..... then u will need to download the supersu.app to root of sd then manually install this will update it and now u can turn off knox and have root... then go to market and download odin mobile then flash your .tar file u want and you will be good to go 4.1.2 doesn't have knox and has a unlocked bootloader so have fun bro this method may work for other phones

smuther22 said:
do a factory data reset then use odin auto root from computer ok...... after boot u will get a security message supersu will be unfortunately stopping this is ok..... then u will need to download the supersu.app to root of sd then manually install this will update it and now u can turn off knox and have root... then go to market and download odin mobile then flash your .tar file u want and you will be good to go 4.1.2 doesn't have knox and has a unlocked bootloader so have fun bro this method may work for other phones
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Do you realize that this thread hasn't been used in a couple of months? I would assume the author has no more need of advice based on the inactivity. Also, once Knox is installed, it is on the phone to stay. PERIOD. NO DOWNGRADING POSSIBLE VIA ODIN. Custom ROMs of any build are fine via custom recovery, but any attempt to change the bootloader will trigger Knox and brick the phone. Dangerous info to be posting here, especially since someone else who doesn't know better might try this.