OTA: unroot and defrost but after? - AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III

So, like most people this morning, got the OTA notif. I'm on stock Rogers roms but rooted. What's the best way to get that update without having to restore phone? Don't care if i lose root or CWM as we can get them back.

polish_pat said:
So, like most people this morning, got the OTA notif. I'm on stock Rogers roms but rooted. What's the best way to get that update without having to restore phone? Don't care if i lose root or CWM as we can get them back.
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As long as you never flashed the modified recovery (Clockwork, etc..) then you can do the update and wont lose anything but root. But since you have CWM installed, you'll need to flash the stock ROM (like I did) and retry the update. I didn't lose any settings when I flashed the fully stock Rogers ROM.

and after, how do i root again?

Just Odin the LG1 image from this thread. It will update you to LG1 and include root in the process.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426
*edit* just noticed you are in Rogers.
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[Q] Would rooting with Odin prevent OTA updates?

Hey, I was wondering if only rooting my phone ( I still have the stock rom ) would prevent my phone from receiving OTA updates? My wife and I bought our phones at the same time, mine was even activated first, and her OTA update, which includes the wifi calling, came tonight, and I haven't seen mine.
So I was just curious if it is still going to come eventually, or if I need to just flash the updated version of the stock rom? Thanks
You will get the update regardless of what rom or recovery or rooted or unrooted.
Now in order to install it ota you need stock rom and stock recovery though. If you rooted and installed cwm recovery then you need to flash stock recovery.
If your rooted. On stock rom. And stock recovery(like I was) then no worries just install away.
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clninja said:
You will get the update regardless of what rom or recovery or rooted or unrooted.
Now in order to install it ota you need stock rom and stock recovery though. If you rooted and installed cwm recovery then you need to flash stock recovery.
If your rooted. On stock rom. And stock recovery(like I was) then no worries just install away.
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Exactly my set up... Thanks for the information
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[Q] help with root

i would like to root my phone but would still like to receive stock ics when it comes out, but i read if you are rooted and have CWM you wont get OTA updates so i was wondering is there a way to root only. i found this (link at bottom) would it just root and not install anything else?
http://galaxys2root.com/galaxy-s2-root/how-to-root-galaxy-s2-newworks-on-all-galaxy-s2-variants/
That would just give you root access.
But read this. It's useful information.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420065
[GUIDE] What to do if you get the UPDATE Notification (OTA) while rooted.
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dabest56 said:
i would like to root my phone but would still like to receive stock ics when it comes out, but i read if you are rooted and have CWM you wont get OTA updates so i was wondering is there a way to root only. i found this (link at bottom) would it just root and not install anything else?
http://galaxys2root.com/galaxy-s2-root/how-to-root-galaxy-s2-newworks-on-all-galaxy-s2-variants/
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well, most of the ROMs are based off stock, and will probably get the upate notification. However, you might have troubles updating through OTA because of this..
You can:
update through kies
flash a deodexed and rooted stock ICS ROM when released for t989
flash stock build through odin.
I would just flash a rooted rom to make like easier.

Question about root and roms

If I root my S3 will I still be able to get the OTA updates? I rooted my Atrix and after that I couldn't get the OTA updates. Also what is the best ROM?
anaylor01 said:
If I root my S3 will I still be able to get the OTA updates? I rooted my Atrix and after that I couldn't get the OTA updates. Also what is the best ROM?
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If you don't need a specific feature from the stock firmware (gestures, wifi calling, etc), just get CM or AOKP and save yourself a headache.
Best? As far as stock? I've read LI6 is decent.
Well with my Atrix when Android 3.0 came out I wasn't able to update it because I was rooted. So my question is when Jelly Bean comes out will I be able to update it to Jelly bean if I am rooted or have a custom rom installed?
anaylor01 said:
Well with my Atrix when Android 3.0 came out I wasn't able to update it because I was rooted. So my question is when Jelly Bean comes out will I be able to update it to Jelly bean if I am rooted or have a custom rom installed?
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3.0 wasn't even for phones. If you install custom recovery you will not be able to receive an OTA until you flash the stock recovery. Just use a jellybean ROM.
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joshnichols189 said:
If you install custom recovery you will not be able to receive an OTA until you flash the stock recovery.
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How can this be true? This is what I did.
Restored a UVALEM nandroid (via CWM). It was the original firmware on the phone when I bought it (no custom install, but I rooted with the Sprint method a couple weeks prior), I just happened to keep this backup.
Reset factory defaults.
Nandroid again for clean UVALEM backup.
Use Software > About phone > Software update to get the UVALH2 update. It was ~90mb.
Phone rebooted after it was done.
Dropped into CWM to make another backup (CWM still here, was never removed).
Downloaded LI6 JB OTA from SamMobile. Installed that from CWM.
I have LI6, never removed CWM. And it is still there. Root should be, although I did not test to confirm.
If you can't receive OTAs with custom recovery/root, how did this work? Is it a feature that was not active in the UVALH2 build? What about the LI6 build I flashed from CWM?
Aerowinder said:
How can this be true? This is what I did.
Restored a UVALEM nandroid (via CWM). It was the original firmware on the phone when I bought it (no custom install, but I rooted with the Sprint method a couple weeks prior), I just happened to keep this backup.
Reset factory defaults.
Nandroid again for clean UVALEM backup.
Use Software > About phone > Software update to get the UVALH2 update. It was ~90mb.
Phone rebooted after it was done.
Dropped into CWM to make another backup (CWM still here, was never removed).
Downloaded LI6 JB OTA from SamMobile. Installed that from CWM.
I have LI6, never removed CWM. And it is still there. Root should be, although I did not test to confirm.
If you can't receive OTAs with custom recovery/root, how did this work? Is it a feature that was not active in the UVALH2 build? What about the LI6 build I flashed from CWM?
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I don't know, clockworkmod is supposed to block the installation of OTA updates.
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Hmm, I'm using 6.0.1.2, and it does ask me if I want to disable /system/etc/install-recovery.sh, when I try to exit.

does root interfere with OTA?

rooted all my devices, havent rooted this one yet in fear for it messing with OTA. if i use the insecure boot imagine flashing via odin root method (option #1 on the toolkit), will i lose the ability to receive OTA updates?
You could always skip it, remove root and get it later on that day.
If you keep all the stock apps it would probably remove root without effecting anything else.
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rooting by itself shoukdnt cause problems if you're using stock recovery and don't modify system files. Ota can interfere with root though.
uluaz said:
rooted all my devices, havent rooted this one yet in fear for it messing with OTA. if i use the insecure boot imagine flashing via odin root method (option #1 on the toolkit), will i lose the ability to receive OTA updates?
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I believe you would be able to get an OTA if you were just rooted, but after applying it, it would break your root and your would have to root over again. If you have a custom recovery the OTA would just fail to install. I could be wrong on the first part, it's been a long time since I only rooted, without installing a custom recovery as well.
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what about if i install OTA rootkeeper? would that make a difference?
The biggest thing you need to consider is whether you have a custom recovery or stock. Only a stock recovery will let an OTA update flash. If it's custom you'll want to either flash to stock before trying to update or wait a day or so unitl someone uploads a rooted .zip version of the update.
i think im going to stay with stock recovery.
so i just rooted and installed CWM. if i reflash stock recovery via odin, will the phone stay rooted?

Updating(OTA) to 4.3 with root?

I have looked around and can't seem to get a straight answer about this. I have a stock rooted gn2, if i update over the air will it brick it? At the moment i have the att updater frozen with titanium backup. Any insight would be greatly appreciated, happy holiday!
where have you been searching? This has been covered dozens of times...
sorry
could you possibly provide a link sir?
generally speaking you can NOT take/install any OTA update when you are rooted...most OTA updates wont install if a custom recovery is detected.
99% of the time it wont work, .09% of the time it might install but you will have all sorts of issues, and .01% of the time it will work..
I think that pretty much covers it; you should probably just be patient and wait until the dev's incorporate it into a custom rom, and then you wont have to unroot to "enjoy" what ever the wonderful features are that ATT was so kind to include in their update..
And the install checks for stock system
You can install if you have stock rom. Root doesn't matter. My phone was rooted with stock room and twrp recovery. I just flashed stock recovery back. I had my superuser integrated in system partition. After Ota, i upgraded superuser apk. It then disabled Knox and download latest su binary.
So successful update with root preserved. Pm me of you need help
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WARNING :
If you take the official OTA to 4.3 while root is present...you WILL trip the KNOX counter in your boot loader.
And if you root after an official 4.3 update you WILL trip KNOX anyway..
My .02....DO NOT UPDATE....
Stay rooted on the old bootloader and flash a custom 4.3 rom.....g
Wife is getting a new AT&T note 2 on the 24th (it already shipped). I would assume it doesn't have the OTA on it yet. Can you just reject the OTA when it arrives? Or will it try to install automatically on the new phone. Any way to prevent that until I can get my hands on it (have time tio mess with it).
Anyone try flashing a rom After ota update?
Did you thank your Developer today?
Same boat
I too have a stock rooted 4.1.2. OTA fails as root present, got that. All I need is a stock 4.3 root. I have read several posts and still unclear as to what to do. I have either missed it or just not found the answer.
Do I need to unroot via SuperSU? then OTA? Odin flash a stock ROM?
Please don't bash as I am only seeking an answer. And any help is greatly appreciated!
cordless89 said:
I too have a stock rooted 4.1.2. OTA fails as root present, got that. All I need is a stock 4.3 root. I have read several posts and still unclear as to what to do. I have either missed it or just not found the answer.
Do I need to unroot via SuperSU? then OTA? Odin flash a stock ROM?
Please don't bash as I am only seeking an answer. And any help is greatly appreciated!
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I had stock rooted 4.1.2 with cwm as my recovery. I did the ota update. After the update, cwm wanted to fix root but couldn't. Essentially I lost root. Next, I re-rooted with CF-Auto-Root. I then installed SuperSU from play store which disabled Knox. Using GooManager I flashed TWRP. The last issue was wifi wasn't working. I used Odin to flash this file: http://d-h.st/OYC (unzip and use the tar in Odin). Wifi restored. Overall I like this update. It's faster and smoother.
Having said all this, I do not recommend anyone use this method. It's much cleaner to unroot then update. Or better yet, as suggested before, use one of the custom 4.3 roms.
flymacs said:
I had stock rooted 4.1.2 with cwm as my recovery. I did the ota update. After the update, cwm wanted to fix root but couldn't. Essentially I lost root. Next, I re-rooted with CF-Auto-Root. I then installed SuperSU from play store which disabled Knox. Using GooManager I flashed TWRP. The last issue was wifi wasn't working. I used Odin to flash this file: link removed (unzip and use the tar in Odin). Wifi restored. Overall I like this update. It's faster and smoother.
Having said all this, I do not recommend anyone use this method. It's much cleaner to unroot then update. Or better yet, as suggested before, use one of the custom 4.3 roms.
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I noticed the OTA did not work on my nine as I got the "unable to update" after the OTA downloaded. I initially rooted via the CF-Auto flash.
Just curious as to next step.
flymacs said:
I had stock rooted 4.1.2 with cwm as my recovery. I did the ota update. After the update, cwm wanted to fix root but couldn't. Essentially I lost root. Next, I re-rooted with CF-Auto-Root. I then installed SuperSU from play store which disabled Knox. Using GooManager I flashed TWRP. The last issue was wifi wasn't working. I used Odin to flash this file: http://d-h.st/OYC (unzip and use the tar in Odin). Wifi restored. Overall I like this update. It's faster and smoother.
Having said all this, I do not recommend anyone use this method. It's much cleaner to unroot then update. Or better yet, as suggested before, use one of the custom 4.3 roms.
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So you had no trouble flashing TWRP? I went back to 4.1.1 from Skynote, OTA'd 4.1.2 and was going to flash another ROM but my wife got my phone the next morning to play slots and she accepted the 4.3 official update before I woke up. I did root with CF Auto and disabled Knox, but was wondering if Goomanager would work.
The next question is can we flash some ROMS with the rooted OTA 4.3?
Geeve
Is there a pre-rooted stock 4.3 for the i317 AT&T available?
geeve420 said:
So you had no trouble flashing TWRP? I went back to 4.1.1 from Skynote, OTA'd 4.1.2 and was going to flash another ROM but my wife got my phone the next morning to play slots and she accepted the 4.3 official update before I woke up. I did root with CF Auto and disabled Knox, but was wondering if Goomanager would work.
The next question is can we flash some ROMS with the rooted OTA 4.3?
Geeve
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Goomanager worked fine. No problems with twrp either.
As far as flashing on from ota 4.3, I'm not brave enough yet.
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cordless89 said:
I noticed the OTA did not work on my nine as I got the "unable to update" after the OTA downloaded. I initially rooted via the CF-Auto flash.
Just curious as to next step.
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Did you debloat or remove any apps from the stock 4.1.2?
flymacs said:
Goomanager worked fine. No problems with twrp either.
As far as flashing on from ota 4.3, I'm not brave enough yet.
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Did you debloat or remove any apps from the stock 4.1.2?
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Nope, pretty much as stock as you can get plus root. OTA failed but I assume reason being the root... but I'm a newbie on this stuff.
cordless89 said:
Nope, pretty much as stock as you can get plus root. OTA failed but I assume reason being the root... but I'm a newbie on this stuff.
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Then the next question I have is if you are using the stock recovery? I was using cwm on stock rooted 4.1.2. When I did the ota, the phone rebooted into cwm. Cwm asked if I wanted to do the update. I selected yes. When it completed, the Samsung installer gave a failed to install message, but cwm showed that it completed and wanted to fix root. It couldn't fix since I was unrooted at this point. I rebooted into 4.3 non-rooted. Re-rooted...etc.
I want to say again that I don't recommend anyone follow this procedure. I'm just trying to describe how I solved my own mess and hopefully answer any questions.

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