Hilarious excerpt from Apple-Samsung trial - Samsung Epic 4G Touch

Lol
full story here: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-5...apples-smoking-crack-with-giant-witness-list/
"I am not going to be running around trying to get 75 pages of briefings for people who are not going to be testifying," U.S. District Judge Lucy Koh told Apple's lawyer Bill Lee.
"I mean come on. 75 pages! 75 pages! You want me to do an order on 75 pages, (and) unless you're smoking crack, you know these witnesses aren't going to be called when you have less than four hours," Koh said.

Nuenjin said:
Lol
full story here: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-5...apples-smoking-crack-with-giant-witness-list/
"I am not going to be running around trying to get 75 pages of briefings for people who are not going to be testifying," U.S. District Judge Lucy Koh told Apple's lawyer Bill Lee.
"I mean come on. 75 pages! 75 pages! You want me to do an order on 75 pages, (and) unless you're smoking crack, you know these witnesses aren't going to be called when you have less than four hours," Koh said.
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Eh, still sucks because she's a biased Apple fangirl
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f*ck Apple. Worthless company.

I think my favorite part is that one of the Apple lawyers went on to respond that he did not, in fact, smoke crack. :laugh:

Lord_MiL said:
I think my favorite part is that one of the Apple lawyers went on to respond that he did not, in fact, smoke crack. :laugh:
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He should have said I don't smoke crack. I inject myself with Steve Jobs blood. Its like heroin to me.
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Gonna go ahead and close this one also before it all begins. There is a general section of xda that it can be discussed in.

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[INFO] Megaupload.com Shut Down - Founder Arrested - Affects ROM Downloads

Just a FYI
Someone also posted in Off topic here but I figured we should have it in our own subforums in case people experience download problems.
Thats intense!
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Yea man, I lost have my ****!!! Guess its time to start fresh anyways but damn this sucks
My guess, It will come back! Hey, I kept personal files and videos i shared and so far lost or at least until it comes back. Not all of it was pirated stuff. So their is legitimate use for it. I think megaupload's Lawyers have some amo to fight with, don't give up yet. Look at the "Pirate Bay" for example, it has won many fights.
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My guess, It will come back! Hey, I kept personal files and videos i shared and so far lost or at least until it comes back. Not all of it was pirated stuff. So their is legitimate use for it. I think megaupload's Lawyers have some amo to fight with, don't give up yet. Look at the "Pirate Bay" for example, it has won many fights.
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Yea but this guy, Kim Dotcom(lmao), is under critical fire my friend! I don't think he'll be out anytime soon...He's been charged with a felony once before, on which he banked $42 million, BUT under German law, it was swept under the rug. And my guess is that the US government will not be as forgiven for the current charges that have been brought up against him...two of them being RACKETEERING and MONEY LAUNDERING??? WTF...but not only that, Megaupload has had endorsements from high profile celeb's which will bring this case into the limelight, so pretty soon everyone is gonna be talking about it, at which point the government will definitely not want to loss this one...http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/01/19/feds-shut-down-file-sharing-website/
I hate that I bought a lifetime membership back when they 1st started So I guess my lifetime has ended quite a run for 50 bux I guess
acrown said:
My guess, It will come back! Hey, I kept personal files and videos i shared and so far lost or at least until it comes back. Not all of it was pirated stuff. So their is legitimate use for it. I think megaupload's Lawyers have some amo to fight with, don't give up yet. Look at the "Pirate Bay" for example, it has won many fights.
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The guys from pirate bay are in jail right now..... But they can fight this cause I have seen alot of stuff pulled from mega upload....good lawyers may have a leg to stand on
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acrown said:
My guess, It will come back! Hey, I kept personal files and videos i shared and so far lost or at least until it comes back. Not all of it was pirated stuff. So their is legitimate use for it. I think megaupload's Lawyers have some amo to fight with, don't give up yet. Look at the "Pirate Bay" for example, it has won many fights.
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I will be first in line to sign for the class action lawsuit against the feds. Files that i ONLY kept on megaupload that were NOT pirated are not longer in my possession. who do they think is going to compensate me for these things, things ive PAID for!? the people responsible. im looking at you, Congress.
"YourAnonNews: Let's just say, for #SOPA supporters their #SOPAblackout is today.
"YourAnonNews: The Largest Attack Ever by Anonymous - 5,635 People Confirmed Using #LOIC to Bring Down Sites! #Anonymous"
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20...e.shtml?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
you would think that our stupid goverment would learn the internet is huge but they still dont get it
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Yea man, I lost have my ****!!! Guess its time to start fresh anyways but damn this sucks
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I thought Swizz Beats is the owner well thats what i saw all over blogs and hip hop blogs too....
I don't think megaupload is responsible for the content people put there
I also didn't know they're a million dollar + corporation
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I thought Swizz Beats is the owner well thats what i saw all over blogs and hip hop blogs too....
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he was CEO
MegaUpload is in the process of returning http://megavideo.bz/ <<<was tweeted by Anonymous
now I see this!
BREAKING: http://megavideo.bz/ is NOT the "new" MegaUpload. It's most likely a phisher and will steal your info. #opmegaupload #oppayback
I don't know what the HE77 happened to a government "of the people, by the people, for the people", but this shizz is getting dam old. First online poker, then pirate bay (well, I understand that one), SOPA, PIPA, Megaupload. When will this government stop being so intrusive. I blame it on all of us voters. We have let the government have control for too long. We need to wise up peeps, and take our liberty back!
Ok, done with my rant.
skyline247 said:
I don't know what the HE77 happened to a government "of the people, by the people, for the people", but this shizz is getting dam old. First online poker, then pirate bay (well, I understand that one), SOPA, PIPA, Megaupload. When will this government stop being so intrusive. I blame it on all of us voters. We have let the government have control for too long. We need to wise up peeps, and take our liberty back!
Ok, done with my rant.
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Unfortunately it seems too late too take back the system through the system...
...tree of liberty's been lookin' a might thirsty lately.
cordell12 said:
MegaUpload is in the process of returning http://megavideo.bz/ <<<was tweeted by Anonymous
now I see this!
BREAKING: http://megavideo.bz/ is NOT the "new" MegaUpload. It's most likely a phisher and will steal your info. #opmegaupload #oppayback
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Thats nuts they already have a imposter site up to steal identities/info. Cyber criminals are fast
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Unfortunately it seems too late too take back the system through the system...
...tree of liberty's been lookin' a might thirsty lately.
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That, my friend, is nothing but the truth. I'm afraid we've let liberty be plundered & mauraded for too long to ever get back to the vision our founding fathers had for this great country.
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Well....it's not like megaupload DIDNT have a bunch of pirated stuff.
But i think anonymous just got played. Shutting down megaupload shortly before the SOPA vote...you have to expect an anonymous attack. Which in this light makes it look like they're supporting piracy. And attacking government sites... i hate to say it but it might just scare the legislators into voting FOR sopa.
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Well....it's not like megaupload DIDNT have a bunch of pirated stuff.
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...and it's not like knives haven't killed thousands of people. Want to outlaw knives? Are all owners of knives suspect?
Do not conflate a tool with its use.
But i think anonymous just got played. Shutting down megaupload shortly before the SOPA vote...you have to expect an anonymous attack. Which in this light makes it look like they're supporting piracy. And attacking government sites... i hate to say it but it might just scare the legislators into voting FOR sopa.
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I'm still not so sure about that. A number of them were scared into dropping support once they realized that had no idea what was actually going on in the bill or on the internet for that matter. The public backlash was pretty tangible. If things get more serious protests would likely get more intense and the backlash would likely be epic.
Do I think that means that SOPA/PIPA have been defeated? Tough question. Chances are bills called "SOPA" and/or "PIPA" will likely never get passed...but I think it's not unlikely that they will be dismantled into pieces and stuffed into "feed the poor orphans" bills, "job creation" bills and "unemployment extension" bills....what kind of heartless prick would vote against unemployment benefit extension, jobs creation and feeding poor orphans?
...only honest politicians. Good luck finding one of those let alone enough to keep something named like that from passing.
Well, as you all know the government only works for the rich. So, when the rich think there precious profits might be damaged they will arrest you. That is exactly what happened with pirate bay. They forced a foreign government to arrest people who hadnt committed a crime in their own country.
For the record I use megaupload all the time to download roms. I think we all do. They are far from pirated so hopefully they will see the site has a great legitimate purpose.
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Let's Stop Apple!

I'm sick of Apple attacking our Android vendors with ridiculous law suits over patents that should never have been allowed in the first place. Data tapping? What's next, patenting fire? Most of their so called "innovations" have been around long before their patenting. They were never patented because they were meant to be real innovations, for vendors, developers, and end users alike to share, use freely and improve the user experience.
Let's do our part in trying to save our beloved vendors from Apple.
All you need to do is sign this petition started by Austin Michael here: http://www.change.org/petitions/apple-inc-stop-filing-lawsuits-and-trying-to-cut-off-competition?utm_campaign=petition_page&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=share_petition or call Apple at 1 (800) 275-2273 and tell them how you feel about this, ask them to stop, or even question why.
Please, don't insult, harass, or even give any representative any attitude. This should be done peacefully, and respectfully. Remember that just because they work for Apple, doesn't make them any less of a person. They are humans like you and me doing their jobs.
Leave what any representative has told you in the comments. Tell me what you think and how you think we should go about this. Twitter? Google+? You may repost this topic anywhere you would like.
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Molotov coktails aside, I don't think there is much we can do.
Talking to some CS reps isn't going to do anything.
Molotov cocktails on the other hand...those make a statement.
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Talking to some CS reps isn't going to do anything.
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I think if enough people do it, we'll have some sort of impact. It's just an idea though.
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Just filed a Better Business Bureau complaint against Apple Inc. that Apple employee Tim Cook stopped me from purchasing a Galaxy Nexus device. Completely true, but I'm curious if anyone in the BBB chain will catch it or if some poor complaints rep in Cupertino is going to have to deal with it.
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Just filed a Better Business Bureau complaint against Apple Inc. that Apple employee Tim Cook stopped me from purchasing a Galaxy Nexus device. Completely true, but I'm curious if anyone in the BBB chain will catch it or if some poor complaints rep in Cupertino is going to have to deal with it.
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BBB is a good ol' boys club. They don't have any real pull.
Wheres the unabomber when you need him.
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Molotov cocktails on the other hand...those make a statement.
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I think if enough people do it, we'll have some sort of impact. It's just an idea though.
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I concur, we can't talk about the olotovMa ocktailsCa from this point forward. We're being watched.
CMNein said:
I concur, we can't talk about the olotovMa ocktailsCa from this point forward. We're being watched.
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adrynalyne said:
BBB is a good ol' boys club. They don't have any real pull.
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nah, but I'll smile a little imagining the look on someone's face when they make the connection.
What about coordinating a "mass call-in" to Apple's customer service lines for an entire day or go into Apple stores and just ask a bunch of redundant questions, preventing actual customers from getting service.
I have an idea, go to every store that carries Apple products and buy one of their devices, open the packaging, and then immediately return it.
I just think we need to disrupt their business as much as we possibly can. I feel we have sat around long enough. And while we're at it, we should go to our state capitols and complain about government as well. You know, since we're going to be out and about anyways.
Hey everyone. I'm an avid android user and have a galaxy nexus myself. I also work for apple support and I can confirm that calling this number will not do anything. You'll get people who dont even know what you're talking about when you mention these court cases
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android01 said:
Wheres the unabomber when you need him.
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in jail
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1742027
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Who reads your emails and texts?

How do you guys feel about GOV Agentcies having the power to read your text messages/emails/listen in on phonecalls. I hear there building super computers in nevada that are dato Niming the internet. Is this a safe conversation? Should I hide. Love my s3 btw, CM10 is working as intended. Does incognito mode help?
I for one completely love that my privacy gets invaded......sarcasm
I love my SG3 too
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ChrisM0678 said:
I for one completely love that my privacy gets invaded......sarcasm
I love my SG3 too
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MittRomney would never let this happen.
Honestly, I couldn't give a **** about them reading all my stuff. I mean, I'm not a terrorist. They'd learn more from my official records and documents than my texts/calls/emails....
Unless they start using this against us, I will never care.
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Honestly, I couldn't give a **** about them reading all my stuff. I mean, I'm not a terrorist. They'd learn more from my official records and documents than my texts/calls/emails....
Unless they start using this against us, I will never care.
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Do you really think there doing all this espionage for nothing? Is it okay for somebody to peep at you through a window as long as they dont touch themselves?
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Do you really think there doing all this espionage for nothing? Is it okay for somebody to peep at you through a window as long as they dont touch themselves?
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I'm pretty sure that the government only even looks at texts/calls/etc. to help with police investigations and similar things. If they did something big that would affect us, everyone would go ape**** crazy which would be like suicide for the US government.
I'd be fine with an invisible guy looking through my window and furiously masturbating - As long as it doesn't affect me and I won't notice, I don't care.
This can be solved quite easily.
If everyone would forward every email/text they send to a government computer in order to "save them the trouble" of having to data mine their own citizens...
I'm sure their "supercomputers" could handle the extra traffic.
I hate this question because of course I don't like it but what the [email protected]$ am I to do about it? Nothing. I just have to know it happens.
The point is that the only way out seems to be moving on the countryside, have a farm and live isolated from any statal or corporate agency. That means no internet, no cell, no fun! At least while you´re young :laugh:
But it doesn´t surprise me that they´re building such kind of suveillance computers.
I wonder if he noticed the black helicopters flying around him as he was starting the thread.
Im glad they do it. Ill never forget what happened to us on sept 11th. Im so sick of people *****ing about there civil rights and being scanned at airportd or privacy being invaded. Heres the facts there are dangerous people that hate the USA. if this is what it takes to keep a suicide bomber blowing up a mall im in or hijacking a plane im on go right ahead. When you hear abiut the cia or feds stopping a shoe bomber or something like that do you think it was by accident? No its from them doing what they have to do. I look at it like this american tax payers pays the govt very very well for certain agencies to keep us safe. Do whatever the hell you have to do to do it
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Im glad they do it. Ill never forget what happened to us on sept 11th. Im so sick of people *****ing about there civil rights and being scanned at airportd or privacy being invaded. Heres the facts there are dangerous people that hate the USA. if this is what it takes to keep a suicide bomber blowing up a mall im in or hijacking a plane im on go right ahead. When you hear abiut the cia or feds stopping a shoe bomber or something like that do you think it was by accident? No its from them doing what they have to do. I look at it like this american tax payers pays the govt very very well for certain agencies to keep us safe. Do whatever the hell you have to do to do it
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It seems to me your are a textbook case of being affected by the good ol fear tactic. Are there bad people in this world? Yes of course. That doesnt mean you trample on the rights of every single individual to look for a few. Your asking your self the wrong question. What do you think America is doing around the world that makes people want to come here and do terrible things like 9/11. Our country, This united states was founded on a constitution where you are enstilled rights for your protection. Dont so easily turn your back on your liberties because of fear. If your scared go to church.
Doesn't bother me, I'm not a terrorist. I'm sure the GOV would love to see my texts from my wife about what time we have to pick up the kids from school and what not...
If you have nothing to hide then you have nothing to worry about and I hope this doesn't come as a surprise but there is no privacy on the Internet.
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Our internet traffic has been "overseen" much longer than you think.
Things that could have been prevented were intentionally ignored since the govt would rather refuse to confirm that they have been spying than to have to explain how they knew about such things beforehand.
They will only get more intrusive as technology evolves and no matter what the people want, this is the way of the world.
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I don't care if they hear me jerk off to my girlfriend on the phone.
you guys really have to appreciate the obscene amount of work it would be to go through 300 million ppls daily conversations with a tiny tiny fraction of that # of ppl, and then how many thousands of years it would take the greatest supercomputers alive to brute force ONE persons 128-bit encryption. ur safe lol
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Im glad they do it. Ill never forget what happened to us on sept 11th. Im so sick of people *****ing about there civil rights and being scanned at airportd or privacy being invaded. Heres the facts there are dangerous people that hate the USA. if this is what it takes to keep a suicide bomber blowing up a mall im in or hijacking a plane im on go right ahead. When you hear abiut the cia or feds stopping a shoe bomber or something like that do you think it was by accident? No its from them doing what they have to do. I look at it like this american tax payers pays the govt very very well for certain agencies to keep us safe. Do whatever the hell you have to do to do it
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This post is joking... right?
The TSA has so many flaws and security holes. There are so many things that you can bring on a plane and use for harmful intent without the TSA knowing. I have a knife keychain (press a button and a sharp knife pops out) and it's never been questioned or confiscated while going through a TSA check. I've gone on at least 6 flights this summer too.
Say some terrorists want to get on a plane. You have 6 terrorists, they all have ipads. They all get first class front seatings. You can have 2 people use their ipads to knock out the pilots - This would be possible and not that hard if they were trained. Then you hijack the plane and have the 4 people guard you (using their ipads as weapons) while the other 2 crash the plane. This sounds like a really crazy scenario, but it could work. Instead of iPads, they could think of a way to get knives on the plane. (Once again, TSA has so many security flaws that this won't be a problem).
The government definitely keeps us safe in a bunch of ways but the TSA is not one of them. The TSA is really just useless and has a negative impact on the innocent people taking the flight.
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I don't care if they hear me jerk off to my girlfriend on the phone.
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10/10 would read again.
This is 2012 people... remember the movie Enemy of The State? U thought that was Hollywood? They've had that technology available even b4 the movie came out back in 98... 14 yrs later think of how advanced the technology is... The only privacy left is the inside of ur head just like they quoted in the movie...
Not sure that will be private for very long.

S4 could be banned in the US? Apple vs. Samsung

So it appears apple is at it again. Among the products on Apple’s ***t list, the Note II is also part of this next battle. Which apparently will take place in the spring of next year.
http://www.androidcentral.com/apple-looks-add-samsung-galaxy-s4-patent-infringement-suit
It would be nice if this company (speaking of apple), would just support open development, open source ideology rather than try to slam somebody like a spoiled little brat on a playground somewhere simply because they are doing something better than them.
Hey apple, step up your game and stop selling ****ty products, and you won’t need to sue other companies in order to get your profits back from them.
What a joke.
All those who agree, say “I”
I am boycotting all things Apple. Nothing Apple will be allowed in my house. iPods, earphones, everything. If it was made by Apple or even breathed on by Apple, it is going in the trash, and replaced by something better.
I am boycotting all things Apple. Nothing Apple will be allowed in my house. iPods, earphones, everything. If it was made by Apple or even breathed on by Apple, it is going in the trash, and replaced by something better.[/QUOTE]
WOW .. It took you long enough to catch up with the real world.. giggles.. Apple has a place in technology. They give android developers and manufacturers something to look down on..And the 3rd rate companies motivation to get better.Apple stuff is well made and thought out to be user friendly. The only issue is that the uses who find it friendly do not really know whats its like to have control over what they really want.
If you have never had cake you do not want cake that much because you do not know what your missing..
Good Luck... My house is NO Apple NO Coca Cola Products. giggles
There's a flaw there coke is the cats pajamas : ) will not let anything Pepsi come near my house Lol
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Dude. Apple Coke would be epic. Forget cherry or vanilla...
Hastily spouted for your befuddlement
Lmao
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Thing is. The note 2 had been out already for so long. By the time the case is heard and deliberated well be on note 4. So let them waste money on trying to kill a by then 2 year old device. A little late Apple don't you think. Stupid fruits.
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The American patent and justice system is a bloody joke. I'm waiting for the judge to toss the apple legal team a big bag of binkies and diapers, then tell em to get the **** out of his courtroom and never come back.
this.......is...my BOOM stick!!!
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The American patent and justice system is a bloody joke. I'm waiting for the judge to toss the apple legal team a big bag of binkies and diapers, then tell em to get the **** out of his courtroom and never come back.
this.......is...my BOOM stick!!!
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Just as bad in the EU
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The thing with Apple is the iphone is as advanced as they want it. They make tons off of itunes. Right now, there R&D department is hard at work trying to think of a way they can change the iphone without giving people more control. Even adding an sd slot would give people a way to buy music anywhere and put it on there phone without itunes. So it is there law department in charge of slowing down every one else progress.
I'm sorry but someone has to say it. This is the dumbest thread ever to be posted to XDA. Nothing but sensationalist garbage. Carry on. :what:
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I'm sorry but someone has to say it. This is the dumbest thread ever to be posted to XDA. Nothing but sensationalist garbage. Carry on. :what:
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Lmao...
THIS... is the dumbest thread ever? That is debatable...
"What ROM..."
"What kernel..."
"Post your benchmarks..."
Like I said.. Very debatable. lol
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In Q1 Android was 75% I think of all shipped smartphones. Can anyone say betamax...errrr iPHONE.
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Lmao...
THIS... is the dumbest thread ever? That is debatable...
"What ROM..."
"What kernel..."
"Post your benchmarks..."
Like I said.. Very debatable. lol
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Deer herr hate apple products, I'm so edgy cause I'm in a clown posse. Look how bad ass I am by typing that as my signature. Apple sucks, deeer.
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Hate Apple or love them, they will continue to be sue happy till a judge says f-you! So unfortunately we have room hear about this spew Soddy BS for awhile.
Was at Cedar Point amusement park yesterday in Northern Ohio and was crazy how many iPhone's were amongst the teens and honestly in general. Kills me to witness that s's they can't hold a candle to most Android powered phones.
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I let my kids play with my apple devices now. It's all there good for, overpriced Childrens toys.

[Off Topic] Self Defense

Started a new thread for anyone that wanted to continue the conversation about self defense from this thread because it is getting way off topic from the OP.
Self defense: what's your stance? Firearm, or no?
Open discussion, let's not attack someone else's views/opinions, or say things that will have a mod close this thread.
Is anyone ANTI-self defense? I mean, you can be pro-self defense (martial arts) and be anti-firearm.
Personally, I have a shotgun, a .22 and a .45. I'm seriously considering getting a license to conceal and carry but I don't currently. I also have had years of living with a Dad who was a gun nut and he filled my head with more opinions on the various aspects of gun control, concealing and even gun ownership than you could imagine. What stuck with me though is that you should NEVER own a gun unless you are SURE you can use it. You must be of the mindset that you can take a life, because if you don't - if you hesitate - your gun could be used against you. I don't know if many people actually mull over the fact that bad guy or not, everyone is someone's son or daughter. And once the aggression drains from that face you laid down, you are looking at a human being. Who is scary dying or dead? Can you live the rest of your life with that on you?
If I lived alone, I wouldn't own a gun. But I have a family and their well being is my responsibility. Would I kill if I had to? Only for them. Nothing I own is worth a life otherwise.
Just my two cents. You're welcome to disagree. I spent years arguing with Dad, "I could do it. No problem." And then I had kids and my perspective changed. I am changed.
Much respect to all who participate in this thread.
What is this doing on XDA ????
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Well said. I also have a family, and would do absolutely anything necessary for them. I conceal carry anywhere its legal, any time I am able to, as well as my wife. Of course, I would only use a firearm when absolutely necessary, and would not hesitate when it can to my family. Like you said, you have to have already decided if the time came to take a life, you need to know if you will or not, and not hesitate.
I'm also a life member of the NRA, and platinum member of the USCCA - they provide funds in the event of a criminal or civil lawsuit, as you as you did everything correctly.
I don't comprehend the government's views on the 2nd amendment, and states like Illinois where it is extremely difficult to legally defend yourself with a firearm. There are clear statistics showing that pro-gun states/cities have a lower crime rate over a period of time. I'm at work at the moment, so I don't have a link to provide as a reference currently.
jbh00jh said:
What is this doing on XDA ????
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Check out the link in the OP. Background info - someone got their new HTC One stolen at gunpoint. That thread got way off topic, as the OP was inquiring what they could do to possibly locate the phone.
In some states its illegal to claim self-defense if you were already carrying a weapon with "intent" to defend yourself.
I begin self defense up to and including killing someone in self defense. But of course situation dictates, I'm not going to shoot someone for stealing my $30 grill from my front porch. But if someone were to break into my house and I were in the house, who ever comes through my door better be ready to die.
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Check out the link in the OP. Background info - someone got their new HTC One stolen at gunpoint. That thread got way off topic, as the OP was inquiring what they could do to possibly locate the phone.
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I understand why the thread was started. My wife and I both have a carry permit and believe in the second amendment.
What I was saying was XDA is not for NRA and gun control debates, it's for phone info.
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In some states its illegal to claim self-defense if you were already carrying a weapon with "intent" to defend yourself.
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Yea, and this logic baffles me.
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I begin self defense up to and including killing someone in self defense. But of course situation dictates, I'm not going to shoot someone for stealing my $30 grill from my front porch. But if someone were to break into my house and I were in the house, who ever comes through my door better be ready to die.
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Agreed. One should never even reach for a firearm unless its something serious to begin with, which includes breaking into my home with my wife and kids. In Kentucky (and probably most states) you can only legally self defend with a deadly weapon for serious injury/bodily harm/death, rape/sexual act, kidnapping. As far as property, the law isn't perfectly clear, but if the perp is in your home, it's all bad for them.
jbh00jh said:
I understand why the thread was started. My wife and I both have a carry permit and believe in the second amendment.
What I was saying was XDA is not for NRA and gun control debates, it's for phone info.
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Fair enough. But it was already being discussed anyway, and if fellow xda members wanted to discuss it further, here is the thread. No disrespect, but you're also basically saying 'why are people talking about sports in the off topic thread?' Same logic.
This has nothing to do with the Verizon HTC One or any other phone. There is a forum on XDA for off topic discussions unrelated to phones, appropriately titled Off-Topic Forum. Nothing personal, I just come here for info about the phone I use and would like to keep it that way. I rather not see the thread popping up to the top every time someone comments on this sometime volatile subject.
Or we could just take the discussion here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2415379

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