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I have smart tools, most handy thing out of that is the compass basically.
So im asking, what are the best survival apps?
Im no conspiracy nut, but it doesn't take a genius to realize the earth is going through stuff it never has before.
Survival apps meaning:
Any guides (i already have the US army & Navy guides)
Any tools that utilizes the Epic's tech (i.e compass, solar wind activity)
If we do not already, someone needs to start coding some serious apps.
Also, if anyone knows of any good ad-hoc programs for when cell towers go down.
Having a nice shiny phone wont mean **** when the cell towers go down.
Take this seriously, please.
When the towers go down and all that madness starts happening, how do you plan on charging your shiny phone?
Edit: As snide a response as this is, I'm being serious. There's better ways to be prepared.
In all seriousness, anything a smartphone can do (assuming network infrastructure is kaput) is better done with a purpose built tool. If TSHTF, you really think a day or two of battery life is gonna cut it?
Better to get a standalone analog compass, a good set of maps, and a decent Yaesu HT ham radio. No reason to reinvent the wheel.
(Unless you want to play Angry Birds)
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When the towers go down and all that madness starts happening, how do you plan on charging your shiny phone?
Edit: As snide a response as this is, I'm being serious. There's better ways to be prepared.
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I just thanked you when i meant to quote lol, off to a great start. As for your "response", no ****.
**** hits the fan, you have a phone for 2-3 MAX, what apps are you gonna have that will help you?
You think i assume our Epics are gonna be solar charged or something?
So again, 2-3 days max...what apps are going to be the most helpful?
EDIT: If you're going to state the obvious (phone dying) then dont bother posting, im fully aware of
that as its the big pink elephant in the room.
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I just thanked you when i meant to quote lol, off to a great start. As for your "response", no ****.
**** hits the fan, you have a phone for 2-3 MAX, what apps are you gonna have that will help you?
You think i assume our Epics are gonna be solar charged or something?
So again, 2-3 days max...what apps are going to be the most helpful?
EDIT: If you're going to state the obvious (phone dying) then dont bother posting, im fully aware of
that as its the big pink elephant in the room.
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It's okay. I'm thank-worthy. As much as I love technology and the cool things it can do... I wouldn't really bother. You're a lot better off learning basic things like first aid and having the head knowledge than being reliant on anything. Also, it's awfully optimistic to hope for more than 24 hours max if you ask me.
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It's okay. I'm thank-worthy. As much as I love technology and the cool things it can do... I wouldn't really bother. You're a lot better off learning basic things like first aid and having the head knowledge than being reliant on anything. Also, it's awfully optimistic to hope for more than 24 hours max if you ask me.
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Lol, you're an interesting fellow -- interesting is the nicest word I can think of at the moment.
I have everything else covered, dry meals, water filters, i have enough first aid kits to aid a village. I have much more aid that i wont list as it comes from ex-military friends, trust me when I say I have everything else covered.
So again, when TSHTF, what are the most useful apps?
I cant even believe im trying to explain to you the importance of having survival apps on your phone, feel like im taking crazy pills or something.
EDIT: and no, you are not thank worthy -- not even close. Please abandon the thread if you continue to think small small-mindedly, on the other hand
if you want to contribute, please do.
They have solar chargers for laptops which will hold over 10 full cellphone charges and require something like 10 hours of sunlight to get those 10 full charges. With them, you could charge your cell phone as fast as you could with a normal power adapter from the wall.
I think they also have $50 range solar chargers which would hold about 3-4 cell phone charges, and get your cell phone charged fully in 3-4 hours from sunlight or from the built-in battery.
I'll take a stab at a serious reply for ya...
Other than a compass, obviously... A GPS program with pre-downloaded maps might come in handy, something like Gaia GPS, perhaps, where you can get maps with hiking trails listed. I figure if something happens to take out the satellites, you probably wouldn't be around to worry about much else!
My app is called an AR15.
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My app is called an AR15.
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My app is called an AR15.
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So, let me get this straight. You shoot people to get directions?
Gotta love 'em rednecks.
Thanks Nabbed & Dalmus, will definitely look into both of those.
As for the others, the ignorance is amazing.
Ill list some of my own if anyone didnt already know about them:
BrightestFlashlight
U.S. Army Survival Guide
U.S. Navy Seal Training Guide (which i downloaded & loaded onto my phone w/ a pdf reader)
Boskoi (utilizes google maps (albeit if its still up) to show you ALL edible sources around you, nuts, fruits, berries, even fungi.
ICE: In Case of Emergence (shows you First & Local responders (police stations, hospitals) and also gives you information on allergies, specific medical conditions,
how to treat someone who is unconscious, ect.
Also remember, if you have some steel wool & enough tinder you can start a fire with your own battery.
Small-minded thinking gets you nowhere, open-minded with a dash of doubt is most important.
Not just outright "Oh you think you're phone will save you?"
No offense, but I'm not sure how this thread even belongs on the XDA forums...
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No offense, but I'm not sure how this thread even belongs on the XDA forums...
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No offense taken.
The right approach would be to think, wow we really do need some handy apps.
I'd code everything myself and not ask a single question but I obviously dont have that knowledge so instead I have to take a gamble, post on here -- & get nothing but ignorant responses.
Except for the few that get what im saying
Nabby & Dal <3
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No offense taken.
The right approach would be to think, wow we really do need some handy apps.
I'd code everything myself and not ask a single question but I obviously dont have that knowledge so instead I have to take a gamble, post on here -- & get nothing but ignorant responses.
Except for the few that get what im saying
Nabby & Dal <3
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I'm not sure how my post was ignorant at all, I was kind of thinking the same about this entire thread. This belongs somewhere, yes, but not here. At least take it over to the themes and apps section... And no I don't think we need apps of this kind. If I was worried about something happening, I'd get actual tools designed (and much better) to solve these problems than my cell phone.
you could smash the gorilla glass and use it to skin squirrels and cut paracord.
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So, let me get this straight. You shoot people to get directions?
Gotta love 'em rednecks.
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It's called a map and compass for directions. Gun to hold onto my shiny cell phone that I will wear around my neck as a trophy because that's all it will be good for.
If your really looking for a serious note on this and I am still confused why you'd rely on a cell phone when things go down but I'd get all the guides, local maps, points in interest I.e. police stations, military bases, hospitals and load them into PDF files then save them on your phone so you can have all the info ready. No cell reception required.
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It's called a map and compass for directions. Gun to hold onto my shiny cell phone that I will wear around my neck as a trophy because that's all it will be good for.
If your really looking for a serious note on this and I am still confused why you'd rely on a cell phone when things go down but I'd get all the guides, local maps, points in interest I.e. police stations, military bases, hospitals and load them into PDF files then save them on your phone so you can have all the info ready. No cell reception required.
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You'd be much better served with a glock. If you want to shoot bandits in the case of a national emergency, a handgun trumps the rifle.
Also, you seem to be confused, friend. If you are going up against a totalitarian government, then a rifle is a good choice. A handgun is much better in the case of riots. Your confusion seems to stem from the misinterpretation of the Second Amendment. You see, you can fight against injustice with a rifle, but a handgun is much more useful in case of civil disobedience.
I have to repeat these obvious truths 3 times over because rednecks really don't think for themselves.
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You'd be much better served with a glock. If you want to shoot bandits in the case of a national emergency, a handgun trumps the rifle.
Also, you seem to be confused, friend. If you are going up against a totalitarian government, then a rifle is a good choice. A handgun is much better in the case of riots. Your confusion seems to stem from the misinterpretation of the Second Amendment. You see, you can fight against injustice with a rifle, but a handgun is much more useful in case of civil disobedience.
I have to repeat these obvious truths 3 times over because rednecks really don't think for themselves.
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Lol your a tool box good sir. This thread went from worthless to just silly. Who is talking about fighting the government, riots or second amendment. Apparently your idea of $hit hitting the fan is way different then most. This went from joking around to you getting mad. Why so mad?
I'll make it even simpler, a pistol for CQB/CQD and a rifle for anything past that. Take your smugness somewhere else, it doesn't really add much here.
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Lol your a tool box good sir. This thread went from worthless to just silly. Who is talking about fighting the government, riots or second amendment. Apparently your idea of $hit hitting the fan is way different then most. This went from joking around to you getting mad. Why so mad? I
I'll make it even simpler, a pistol for CQB/CQD and a rifle for anything past that. Take your smugness somewhere else, it doesn't really add much here.
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I'm sorry but I didn't read what you wrote. I just pushed the Quote button.
But I digress. Let me give youa piece if advice, mr. Redneck. Go to your backyard immediately and dig a hole. Take that pos ar-15 and bury it in the hole. Then go to your favorite gun store and get yourself an ak.
Just wondering if any of you sprint workers here can tell me some things about the tech positin. What to expect and what is usually done there. I got an interview tomorrow with them for a tech position, so i just wanted to find out the benefits of working for sprint. Any help will be greatly appreciated . Thank you.
Benefits of working at Sprint? That would be amazing customers like us here on XDA, what more could you hope for? lol
Good luck on your interview.
First off, #1 benefit is a $0 phone plan.
As far as the position goes, having experience rooting, flashing and just general understanding of Android will be the biggest thing. Followed by customer service (you can't be one of those closet nerds who can't talk to people) and lastly, third main task is handling inventory.
Honesty, most of the job is hard resetting Android phones since no one takes the time to understand their own phone. Also, learning the basics of Blackberries will help you a lot if you have no understanding of them going into it.
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First off, #1 benefit is a $0 phone plan.
As far as the position goes, having experience rooting, flashing and just general understanding of Android will be the biggest thing. Followed by customer service (you can't be one of those closet nerds who can't talk to people) and lastly, third main task is handling inventory.
Honesty, most of the job is hard resetting Android phones since no one takes the time to understand their own phone. Also, learning the basics of Blackberries will help you a lot if you have no understanding of them going into it.
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Totally agree with all of this. Plus, it helps to have a thick skin.
Good luck!
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So your going to work in a corporate store? or a 3rd party reatiler (often mistaken for retail stores), or deep in the bowls of sprint with fancy switches or tower sites?
Techie
I started as a tech in a preferred retailer, I am now the store manager. Some of the previous comments were on point, You will be dealing with mainly android phones, likely EVO 4G's. Knowing the in's and outs of an android device is the best route. Having a general understanding of Blackberries is helpful. The hardest devices are the iden/nextel devices. They are a pain in the ass to work on. Having solid customer service and the ability to understand and empathize with your customer is key. You will get alot of angry people who say something like, " I have been with sprint for so many years, and I have 4 lines and my bill is $200/month, give me what I want!" The inital response is to say, "You and 40 million others too" Point being is that you have to be thick skinned and not take it personal. The best advice I can give, is to BACK UP CONTACTS prior to doing any work on the phone. Android makes it easy, export them to the SD. Blackberry, run a backup on desktop manager, other devices, make a backup using the cellbrite. The goal of a repair center is to repair first, triage second, and exchange as a last resort. Learning how to actually open up a phone and replace parts and assess whats liquid damage and whats fixable just comes with experience and it isn't generally something you can learn about ahead of time. Please PM me is you have some specific quesitons, I've dealt with the good, the bad and the ugly in my location. It's a tough job, but can be really fun if your a geek. It's the ultimate geek job.
Best advice I can give is to learn how to not take crap from anyone. Customers will do anything and everything to get something for free. The customer is not always right.
Memorize anything you can about Sprint phones. Settings, hard reset buttons, tweaks, etc. The more you can do from memory without having to look it up, the better off you'll be.
Yes. And I cannot emphasize enough that you will be dealing with some of the angriest people you might ever encounter. Nothing equals the rage of some random corporate big head who might face a day without their mobile device. They are out for blood. No matter how courteous and understanding you could possibly be.
Make sure to have thick skin and learn the eccentricities of passive aggressive conversation.
Many inconsiderate, ignorant, and inept employees in your prospective position, have soured the public towards cellular employees.
A bad experience on the phone or at another location will mightily influence the attitudes of customers that you serve face to face. So you might spend 90% of your time fixing the wrongs of some idiot who doesn't care. (Usually from call centers, but other customer facing locations as well.)
It can be a very amazing position. Frequently gratifying by helping a less technically knowledgable person through the varying issues they encounter. But many bad apples are to be prepared for.
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Yes. And I cannot emphasize enough that you will be dealing with some of the angriest people you might ever encounter. Nothing equals the rage of some random corporate big head who might face a day without their mobile device. They are out for blood. No matter how courteous and understanding you could possibly be.
Make sure to have thick skin and learn the eccentricities of passive aggressive conversation.
Many inconsiderate, ignorant, and inept employees in your prospective position, have soured the public towards cellular employees.
A bad experience on the phone or at another location will mightily influence the attitudes of customers that you serve face to face. So you might spend 90% of your time fixing the wrongs of some idiot who doesn't care. (Usually from call centers, but other customer facing locations as well.)
It can be a very amazing position. Frequently gratifying by helping a less technically knowledgable person through the varying issues they encounter. But many bad apples are to be prepared for.
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Your going to scare him off! Good techs are hard to come by. While the above is correct, you may get yelled at for something that happened at another sprint store, but because your shirt says Sprint, you are the person getting it. Don't take it personal and do the best you can to help them. While I've dealt with plenty of upset people, I've also dealt with tons of people have thrive on the knowledge that I have of the android operating system, and really enjoy learning about something new. Other customers just want to learn the basics and be on their way. Find out the customers needs and address those needs.
I had an interview for sprint customer service rep today actually. Would have gotten the job but I didn't like the schedule. they gave me 2pm to 3am. Reapplying in a few months Because the job pays very good money and seems fun IMO.
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They should get paid good money, customer care reps get smashed on by sprint customers.
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I started as a tech in a preferred retailer, I am now the store manager. Some of the previous comments were on point, You will be dealing with mainly android phones, likely EVO 4G's. Knowing the in's and outs of an android device is the best route. Having a general understanding of Blackberries is helpful. The hardest devices are the iden/nextel devices. They are a pain in the ass to work on. Having solid customer service and the ability to understand and empathize with your customer is key. You will get alot of angry people who say something like, " I have been with sprint for so many years, and I have 4 lines and my bill is $200/month, give me what I want!" The inital response is to say, "You and 40 million others too" Point being is that you have to be thick skinned and not take it personal. The best advice I can give, is to BACK UP CONTACTS prior to doing any work on the phone. Android makes it easy, export them to the SD. Blackberry, run a backup on desktop manager, other devices, make a backup using the cellbrite. The goal of a repair center is to repair first, triage second, and exchange as a last resort. Learning how to actually open up a phone and replace parts and assess whats liquid damage and whats fixable just comes with experience and it isn't generally something you can learn about ahead of time. Please PM me is you have some specific quesitons, I've dealt with the good, the bad and the ugly in my location. It's a tough job, but can be really fun if your a geek. It's the ultimate geek job.
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Thank you so much man I really appreciate that I'll definitely pm . Thank you all for replying so fast. I'm really excited about his job because I've been working on the customer service jobs all my life. Right now I'm working at a dealership so I know what to expect from a few customers. And as far as android system goes
I'm really comfortable with it. I know how to root and flash and the basics so thats covered for me. Ya'll should of seen the faces of some of the employees there when i pulled out my E4GT with the ics rom it was pricesless lol. Wow the benefits sound really freaking awesome!! I think is a retail store. And is a tech position like helping people out with their phone probs. The only thing worrying me is blackbarry since I heavent had any of those phones. Good thing there is always room for learning . Ones again thank you all
Nextel blackberries are the worst, but whoever trains you will teach what you need to know. You won't get thrown to wolves upon hiring. There are alot of training courses. You won't deal to much with root, only when you see a rooted phone that won't activate. Good Luck let us know how it goes.
tomaro is my final in training, or my initial 90 days. in fact, my manager made me a new name tag without the in training
whoever mentioned knowing the basics of blackberry has it right. i know EVERYTHING about android, and an sufficient amount about iOS, but let me tell you, my first 20 tickets were all blackberries with problems like JVM errors and no gps lock...those being so hard i mainly just exchanged -_- then again, even with the easiest question "how do i turn wifi on" threw me off. its like i didt even know blackberies exsisted before i was hired at sprint. lmfao but thankfully one of my coworkers is a major RIM guy so hes since taught me the ropes
one more thing on the blackberry front...is it just me or do they taking FOREVER to boot??? it gets akward after the first 5 minutes and im shouting from behind the glass....half way there, imma fix it, dont worry! lol
however. whoever said you wont get thrown to the wolves is trippin, yo. they stripped me naked, powdered me with sea salt and threw me into the fire. i dont ****in know how to change an evo speaker!
bETTER FIGURE IT OUT QUICK, WE TOLD HER YOUD bE DONE IN 15 MINUTES (youtube the rescue)
i have since learned the ropes and have really proven myself. my manager is hiring me on for 2$ more than i asked for, plus commission on the NASCcalander, and awesome benefits. ive drastically brought up our overall csats, and my personal csat and ready now is always at 100%. my first months AE budget was blown out of the water, but the past two months have been well below what they expected.
all in in all id say you need to know how to work blackberry desktop manager, the hard key reset for the entire line up, and youd better pick up a soldering gun 'cas those evo charging ports dont last a lick.
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tomaro is my final in training, or my initial 90 days. in fact, my manager made me a new name tag without the in training
whoever mentioned knowing the basics of blackberry has it right. i know EVERYTHING about android, and an sufficient amount about iOS, but let me tell you, my first 20 tickets were all blackberries with problems like JVM errors and no gps lock...those being so hard i mainly just exchanged -_- then again, even with the easiest question "how do i turn wifi on" threw me off. its like i didt even know blackberies exsisted before i was hired at sprint. lmfao but thankfully one of my coworkers is a major RIM guy so hes since taught me the ropes
one more thing on the blackberry front...is it just me or do they taking FOREVER to boot??? it gets akward after the first 5 minutes and im shouting from behind the glass....half way there, imma fix it, dont worry! lol
however. whoever said you wont get thrown to the wolves is trippin, yo. they stripped me naked, powdered me with sea salt and threw me into the fire. i dont ****in know how to change an evo speaker!
bETTER FIGURE IT OUT QUICK, WE TOLD HER YOUD bE DONE IN 15 MINUTES (youtube the rescue)
i have since learned the ropes and have really proven myself. my manager is hiring me on for 2$ more than i asked for, plus commission on the NASCcalander, and awesome benefits. ive drastically brought up our overall csats, and my personal csat and ready now is always at 100%. my first months AE budget was blown out of the water, but the past two months have been well below what they expected.
all in in all id say you need to know how to work blackberry desktop manager, the hard key reset for the entire line up, and youd better pick up a soldering gun 'cas those evo charging ports dont last a lick.
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Yeah, I hate the blackberry start up time!
Okay, I need to learn how to fix charging ports, is that on YouTube or somewhere else I can learn.
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I wanna job at a sprint store
In all seriousness I really do
But I need a high school deploma or a GED
Man I still have to wait till June to graduate and I'm willing to bet I can troubleshoot phones better than most sprint employees that don't come here
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Yeah, I hate the blackberry start up time!
Okay, I need to learn how to fix charging ports, is that on YouTube or somewhere else I can learn.
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Every EVO port I see is so totally ****ed theres no chance of saving it.
If the anchor legs break off you can forget about trying to fix it.
Im not sure why anyone thinks the Nextels are hard to fix? 90% or the time its swapping a front flip assembly or doing a master reset on the sim card.
Been a tech for 2 years now, its not a bad job like he said if you can spot the bull**** and keep the tough skin mentality...tons of people with the "Customer service said...." and then having to explain the TRUTH, get alot of the people who said they were told by CARE to bring their phone that fell into the toilet into me and I would replace it on the spot....not so much, call Asurrion....alot of that and replacing EVO speakers lol....its not bad at all....
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Every EVO port I see is so totally ****ed theres no chance of saving it.
If the anchor legs break off you can forget about trying to fix it.
Im not sure why anyone thinks the Nextels are hard to fix? 90% or the time its swapping a front flip assembly or doing a master reset on the sim card.
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Yea it's crazy how bad people destroy EVO charging ports. And screens. People with EVOs seem to take no care with their device.
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Yea it's crazy how bad people destroy EVO charging ports. And screens. People with EVOs seem to take no care with their device.
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It's a crying shame for those poor Evos.
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How do you guys feel about GOV Agentcies having the power to read your text messages/emails/listen in on phonecalls. I hear there building super computers in nevada that are dato Niming the internet. Is this a safe conversation? Should I hide. Love my s3 btw, CM10 is working as intended. Does incognito mode help?
I for one completely love that my privacy gets invaded......sarcasm
I love my SG3 too
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I for one completely love that my privacy gets invaded......sarcasm
I love my SG3 too
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MittRomney would never let this happen.
Honestly, I couldn't give a **** about them reading all my stuff. I mean, I'm not a terrorist. They'd learn more from my official records and documents than my texts/calls/emails....
Unless they start using this against us, I will never care.
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Honestly, I couldn't give a **** about them reading all my stuff. I mean, I'm not a terrorist. They'd learn more from my official records and documents than my texts/calls/emails....
Unless they start using this against us, I will never care.
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Do you really think there doing all this espionage for nothing? Is it okay for somebody to peep at you through a window as long as they dont touch themselves?
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Do you really think there doing all this espionage for nothing? Is it okay for somebody to peep at you through a window as long as they dont touch themselves?
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I'm pretty sure that the government only even looks at texts/calls/etc. to help with police investigations and similar things. If they did something big that would affect us, everyone would go ape**** crazy which would be like suicide for the US government.
I'd be fine with an invisible guy looking through my window and furiously masturbating - As long as it doesn't affect me and I won't notice, I don't care.
This can be solved quite easily.
If everyone would forward every email/text they send to a government computer in order to "save them the trouble" of having to data mine their own citizens...
I'm sure their "supercomputers" could handle the extra traffic.
I hate this question because of course I don't like it but what the [email protected]$ am I to do about it? Nothing. I just have to know it happens.
The point is that the only way out seems to be moving on the countryside, have a farm and live isolated from any statal or corporate agency. That means no internet, no cell, no fun! At least while you´re young :laugh:
But it doesn´t surprise me that they´re building such kind of suveillance computers.
I wonder if he noticed the black helicopters flying around him as he was starting the thread.
Im glad they do it. Ill never forget what happened to us on sept 11th. Im so sick of people *****ing about there civil rights and being scanned at airportd or privacy being invaded. Heres the facts there are dangerous people that hate the USA. if this is what it takes to keep a suicide bomber blowing up a mall im in or hijacking a plane im on go right ahead. When you hear abiut the cia or feds stopping a shoe bomber or something like that do you think it was by accident? No its from them doing what they have to do. I look at it like this american tax payers pays the govt very very well for certain agencies to keep us safe. Do whatever the hell you have to do to do it
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Im glad they do it. Ill never forget what happened to us on sept 11th. Im so sick of people *****ing about there civil rights and being scanned at airportd or privacy being invaded. Heres the facts there are dangerous people that hate the USA. if this is what it takes to keep a suicide bomber blowing up a mall im in or hijacking a plane im on go right ahead. When you hear abiut the cia or feds stopping a shoe bomber or something like that do you think it was by accident? No its from them doing what they have to do. I look at it like this american tax payers pays the govt very very well for certain agencies to keep us safe. Do whatever the hell you have to do to do it
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It seems to me your are a textbook case of being affected by the good ol fear tactic. Are there bad people in this world? Yes of course. That doesnt mean you trample on the rights of every single individual to look for a few. Your asking your self the wrong question. What do you think America is doing around the world that makes people want to come here and do terrible things like 9/11. Our country, This united states was founded on a constitution where you are enstilled rights for your protection. Dont so easily turn your back on your liberties because of fear. If your scared go to church.
Doesn't bother me, I'm not a terrorist. I'm sure the GOV would love to see my texts from my wife about what time we have to pick up the kids from school and what not...
If you have nothing to hide then you have nothing to worry about and I hope this doesn't come as a surprise but there is no privacy on the Internet.
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Our internet traffic has been "overseen" much longer than you think.
Things that could have been prevented were intentionally ignored since the govt would rather refuse to confirm that they have been spying than to have to explain how they knew about such things beforehand.
They will only get more intrusive as technology evolves and no matter what the people want, this is the way of the world.
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I don't care if they hear me jerk off to my girlfriend on the phone.
you guys really have to appreciate the obscene amount of work it would be to go through 300 million ppls daily conversations with a tiny tiny fraction of that # of ppl, and then how many thousands of years it would take the greatest supercomputers alive to brute force ONE persons 128-bit encryption. ur safe lol
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Im glad they do it. Ill never forget what happened to us on sept 11th. Im so sick of people *****ing about there civil rights and being scanned at airportd or privacy being invaded. Heres the facts there are dangerous people that hate the USA. if this is what it takes to keep a suicide bomber blowing up a mall im in or hijacking a plane im on go right ahead. When you hear abiut the cia or feds stopping a shoe bomber or something like that do you think it was by accident? No its from them doing what they have to do. I look at it like this american tax payers pays the govt very very well for certain agencies to keep us safe. Do whatever the hell you have to do to do it
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This post is joking... right?
The TSA has so many flaws and security holes. There are so many things that you can bring on a plane and use for harmful intent without the TSA knowing. I have a knife keychain (press a button and a sharp knife pops out) and it's never been questioned or confiscated while going through a TSA check. I've gone on at least 6 flights this summer too.
Say some terrorists want to get on a plane. You have 6 terrorists, they all have ipads. They all get first class front seatings. You can have 2 people use their ipads to knock out the pilots - This would be possible and not that hard if they were trained. Then you hijack the plane and have the 4 people guard you (using their ipads as weapons) while the other 2 crash the plane. This sounds like a really crazy scenario, but it could work. Instead of iPads, they could think of a way to get knives on the plane. (Once again, TSA has so many security flaws that this won't be a problem).
The government definitely keeps us safe in a bunch of ways but the TSA is not one of them. The TSA is really just useless and has a negative impact on the innocent people taking the flight.
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K.0.0.L. said:
I don't care if they hear me jerk off to my girlfriend on the phone.
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10/10 would read again.
This is 2012 people... remember the movie Enemy of The State? U thought that was Hollywood? They've had that technology available even b4 the movie came out back in 98... 14 yrs later think of how advanced the technology is... The only privacy left is the inside of ur head just like they quoted in the movie...
Not sure that will be private for very long.
I know someone at my work is picking up my phone when I am away and was wondering if there is an App that could record when my phone is being picked up. Hopefully it could even silently take a picture of the person doing it!
Ideally I would return to my work station and have the information I need.. I don't use a PC at my job so that is why I am looking for an App that can do this. Something like Cerberus without the theft aspect,lol.
I have searched and can't find anything... Please don't comment about screen locks and PIN Codes. I know about keeping people out. I want to see who/when people are trying to sneak in.
Thank you
I used Gotya facetrap,it has a option to take a picture whenever the screen turns on or whenever someone enter the wrong passcode or pattern
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.myboyfriendisageek.gotya
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Thank you for your post. I just watched the video for this App and I am impressed. The App is VERY close to what I am looking for.
The thing I want (ideally) the App to do (besides what this one does) is have the ability to take a photo or video/time & date stamp an unauthorized user who is trying to access my phone without attempting to "unlock" it.
If my phone is locked they will most likely only try once, I am sure, and then stop their pattern of "sneaky behavior"..
I want to know who is trying access my phone whether it is locked or unlocked.
Jerry D said:
Thank you for your post. I just watched the video for this App and I am impressed. The App is VERY close to what I am looking for.
The thing I want (ideally) the App to do (besides what this one does) is have the ability to take a photo or video/time & date stamp an unauthorized user who is trying to access my phone without attempting to "unlock" it.
If my phone is locked they will most likely only try once, I am sure, and then stop their pattern of "sneaky behavior"..
I want to know who is trying access my phone whether it is locked or unlocked.
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That app have a function which will take screen shot whenever they turn on the screen,they don't even have to attempt to enter your password/pattern for it to take a picture & you can have it email you a picture of the culprit with a time stamp/date of when the pic was taken,it even have the option to turn on a system tray notification on pull down bar which will also have time stamp.
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Thanks Lord_Kaizer
I bought the App and it is as you said. Just turning the screen on takes a picture. Let the games begin, lol!:victory:
Jerry D said:
Thanks Lord_Kaizer
I bought the App and it is as you said. Just turning the screen on takes a picture. Let the games begin, lol!:victory:
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lol,nice
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Thanks Lord_Kaizer
I bought the App and it is as you said. Just turning the screen on takes a picture. Let the games begin, lol!:victory:
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Let us know who it was
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lol yeah, it's called pocket and it's by your hip... but forealdo, why don't you just put the damn thing in your pocket.
Please let us know. This sounds like it'll be interesting and Fun.
boodies said:
lol yeah, it's called pocket and it's by your hip... but forealdo, why don't you just put the damn thing in your pocket.
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That's what I was wondering.... Why not do like the rest of us and keep it secured on your person. I understand if you want on using this in the event your phone is lost/stolen. But you wanna know who picks it up... As in like a nosy girlfriend haha.... That's about the only thing I'd use this for
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yungtexas said:
That's what I was wondering.... Why not do like the rest of us and keep it secured on your person. I understand if you want on using this in the event your phone is lost/stolen. But you wanna know who picks it up... As in like a nosy girlfriend haha.... That's about the only thing I'd use this for
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Yeah, he's just asking for it. It'll only be a matter of time before someone picks it up and instead of putting it back down puts it in their own pocket. I recommend you put it in your pocket! Happy New Years!
Rather than quote and reply to the non helpful comments I will put things into perspective for people. LOl.. I know you want to know.
I need to get evidence that a coworker (a bully to say the least) is entering my private work area, touching my personal property and trying to access my personal information, without my permission. If my phone is in my pocket I can't do that hence the need for an App like this.
[Btw. If you were a women and a coworker was going through your pocketbook while you were away from your cube would you just carry your pocketbook around the office with you all the time? Imagine all the women doing that and the atmosphere it would create.]
I like to solve problems not ignore or run from them. This coworker IS crossing the line.. My workplace is a mess because nobody will take any action against this coworker..
I am trying to solve a serious problem at my place of employment. The person I suspect/know who is doing this causes all kinds of other "nonsense" at work. They create a very negative working environment every single day. They have been there a long time and feel they can do whatever they want with impunity.
Everyone wants this person to stop their negative behavior but they don't know how to deal with it because the person has been there so long.. it's a small company. No Human resource Dept,ect.. People are "afraid" of this coworker. They don't want to get fired. Politics you know?
I hoping to catch them, confront them and put some fear in them so that they stop ALL their Nonsense.. I "will have the goods on them" and be empowered to make a change in their negative behavior. They cannot defend their "touching" of MY property.. I have already openly mentioned to people that I think someone is touching my stuff while I'm away from my desk. Did it stop? No. It started to happen even more, lol..
This "person" is so insidious if you bring your phone with you to the bathroom they complain to everyone that you are in the bathroom on your phone. Unbelievable I tell you!..
Someone has to stand up to this "person" and a picture is worth more than my word against theirs.. Like all Bully's this person is a coward and will be afraid when confronted with evidence of wrong doing..
The person is 54yrs old with no real marketable job skills. They lose their job and they are screwed. Hopefully they can change or be humbled by the realization that they CAN'T do what ever they want to people.
Happy New Year Everyone!
P.S.
Trust is the glue that binds all relationships. If I needed this app because I didn't trust my girlfriend I would get another girlfriend.
Jerry D said:
Rather than quote and reply to the non helpful comments I will put things into perspective for people. LOl.. I know you want to know.
I need to get evidence that a coworker (a bully to say the least) is entering my private work area, touching my personal property and trying to access my personal information, without my permission. If my phone is in my pocket I can't do that hence the need for an App like this.
[Btw. If you were a women and a coworker was going through your pocketbook while you were away from your cube would you just carry your pocketbook around the office with you all the time? Imagine all the women doing that and the atmosphere it would create.]
I like to solve problems not ignore or run from them. This coworker IS crossing the line.. My workplace is a mess because nobody will take any action against this coworker..
I am trying to solve a serious problem at my place of employment. The person I suspect/know who is doing this causes all kinds of other "nonsense" at work. They create a very negative working environment every single day. They have been there a long time and feel they can do whatever they want with impunity.
Everyone wants this person to stop their negative behavior but they don't know how to deal with it because the person has been there so long.. it's a small company. No Human resource Dept,ect.. People are "afraid" of this coworker. They don't want to get fired. Politics you know?
I hoping to catch them, confront them and put some fear in them so that they stop ALL their Nonsense.. I "will have the goods on them" and be empowered to make a change in their negative behavior. They cannot defend their "touching" of MY property.. I have already openly mentioned to people that I think someone is touching my stuff while I'm away from my desk. Did it stop? No. It started to happen even more, lol..
This "person" is so insidious if you bring your phone with you to the bathroom they complain to everyone that you are in the bathroom on your phone. Unbelievable I tell you!..
Someone has to stand up to this "person" and a picture is worth more than my word against theirs.. Like all Bully's this person is a coward and will be afraid when confronted with evidence of wrong doing..
The person is 54yrs old with no real marketable job skills. They lose their job and they are screwed. Hopefully they can change or be humbled by the realization that they CAN'T do what ever they want to people.
Happy New Year Everyone!
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Trust is the glue that binds all relationships. If I needed this app because I didn't trust my girlfriend I would get another girlfriend.
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I have never heard of an app to do that. Ur better off getting a clock radio camera and record it. Or just confront the bully. It about the only way to resolve this issue
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I completely understand your reasoning for needing this app but kind of like BACARDILIMON said, I'd go with a fiber optics type route. That way you can get a video of the perp coming into your workspace and get a little more proof of what they are doing other than the fact that you have a picture of their face on your phone. Plus, the cameras are a bit safer because if something of yours were to walk away, you would have prove as to who did it and exactly when.
Anyways, good luck with your CSI work
I second the covert camera idea. This is clearly the way to go. I wouldn't even hang it over the person's head. Just take it to the boss and discuss the hostile work environment the co-worker is creating for everybody.
Don't sit on it either. Evidence is best when fresh. Give it a couple weeks and it gets to be stale and brings up questions of your motives.
Hastily spouted for your befuddlement
Jerry D said:
Rather than quote and reply to the non helpful comments I will put things into perspective for people. LOl.. I know you want to know.
I need to get evidence that a coworker (a bully to say the least) is entering my private work area, touching my personal property and trying to access my personal information, without my permission. If my phone is in my pocket I can't do that hence the need for an App like this.
[Btw. If you were a women and a coworker was going through your pocketbook while you were away from your cube would you just carry your pocketbook around the office with you all the time? Imagine all the women doing that and the atmosphere it would create.]
I like to solve problems not ignore or run from them. This coworker IS crossing the line.. My workplace is a mess because nobody will take any action against this coworker..
I am trying to solve a serious problem at my place of employment. The person I suspect/know who is doing this causes all kinds of other "nonsense" at work. They create a very negative working environment every single day. They have been there a long time and feel they can do whatever they want with impunity.
Everyone wants this person to stop their negative behavior but they don't know how to deal with it because the person has been there so long.. it's a small company. No Human resource Dept,ect.. People are "afraid" of this coworker. They don't want to get fired. Politics you know?
I hoping to catch them, confront them and put some fear in them so that they stop ALL their Nonsense.. I "will have the goods on them" and be empowered to make a change in their negative behavior. They cannot defend their "touching" of MY property.. I have already openly mentioned to people that I think someone is touching my stuff while I'm away from my desk. Did it stop? No. It started to happen even more, lol..
This "person" is so insidious if you bring your phone with you to the bathroom they complain to everyone that you are in the bathroom on your phone. Unbelievable I tell you!..
Someone has to stand up to this "person" and a picture is worth more than my word against theirs.. Like all Bully's this person is a coward and will be afraid when confronted with evidence of wrong doing..
The person is 54yrs old with no real marketable job skills. They lose their job and they are screwed. Hopefully they can change or be humbled by the realization that they CAN'T do what ever they want to people.
Happy New Year Everyone!
P.S.
Trust is the glue that binds all relationships. If I needed this app because I didn't trust my girlfriend I would get another girlfriend.
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dude, just get one of those pen spy cams...
edit: seems guy above mentioned it.
BACARDILIMON said:
I have never heard of an app to do that. Ur better off getting a clock radio camera and record it. Or just confront the bully. It about the only way to resolve this issue
If you read the thread you would know that there is an App that DOES what I was hoping for in my OP. Lord_Kaizer gave us the name of that App (GotYa!) and a link to that App. GotYa! It works Great..
I actually have audio and video of this person harassing me/coworkers, sleeping on the job and other "nonsense".. However I started to think about the possible Legal Issues concerning the audio and video recording of someone without their knowledge. I'm not a Lawyer but I am sure it can't be Legal.
I don't want to get fired. This person has some power and latitude on the job. This is a serious matter that I'm about to "take on" for the benefit of me and my fellow coworkers. I HAVE to be Smart about this..
This App will provide me with picture after picture day after day of this "not nice" person attempting to access my personal property without my knowledge or permission.
A LINE HAS BEEN CROSSED. GotYa! LOL.. They can't weasel out of this one!
The pictures will have a time and date attached to them. The App will email the pictures to me in real time (time and date again) to ensure a "chain". The person can't say that I just took pictures of them and edited times and dates, bla bla bla.. you can't edit the times and dates on emails.
Anyways, you are right about the only way to resolve the issue is to confront the bully. My physical evidence WILL Negate any he said she said "Brush Off".. this is how the Owner has handled "matters" in the past. The Owner isn't stupid though and WILL call his lawyers for advise...
I have a Legitimate anti-theft app on my phone that enabled me to discover that a coworker is attempting to what? read, access/steal my personal information? I have a $700 Smart Phone. My whole life is in here.
Why are they regularly "going into" my Personal phone. I have a reasonable expectation that this behavior isn't happening to me on the job. Surely this behavior is against "The Rules".. I will show that this is a pattern of behavior and not some random event.
This is a very serious Matter. My job will be on the line when I expose this A....e
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dude, just get one of those pen spy cams...
edit: seems guy above mentioned it.
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I let your first non-helpful post slide because I saw you have a 153 thanks and figured that you are a helpful and productive member of Our Community.
I used your second non-helpful post as a reason to enlighten Community Members as to why I need the GotYa! App and hopefully show how technology can be used to Empower people and not be victims..
Have you watched the Youtube video for this App?? The man in the video was robbed at an ATM, at gun point, and was able to get the criminal caught for the crime because he had this App installed..
Now that I have read your 3rd non-helpful post I see that you are just Trolling my Thread.
Please stop Trolling my Thread.
I can't be the only one who's noticed that there's a bunch of people on this forum, who for whatever reason seem to be on some kind of campaign. These people are insisting that Note 7 owners must power them off and return them and they take every opportunity to say that the phone is a huge danger and that no only must all handsets be returned, but that the networks and Samsung must block the devices. It goes far beyond the occasional post and the odd comment. It's repeated, vitriolic, aggressive, confrontational and dogmatic.
Fine upstanding citizens these people may be and perhaps they are so motivated to ensure the safety of their fellow humans. But I seriously doubt that. I doubt most of them surely don't care a damn about the safety of other phone users. So what's driving this campaign of vitriol? Why are these people not simply making their point and moving on? Is it because they have surrendered their devices and don't like others still enjoying their Note 7's? is it because they are somehow feeling inadequate and feel the need to demonstrate their superiority?
I can't remember circumstances before where so many self-rightous, sanctimonious vigilantes have sprung up who seem hell bent on TELLING others what they must do.
I'd like to say to all of them, what people do with their own Note 7's is a matter entirely for them, their supplier and their mobile operator. That's it. Beyond that, it's NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.
For those with eyes. IRIS = SIRI, reverse engineering.
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On a serious Note, yes there are moles on here. Think different? Think for yourself! If you want to keep your Note 7, then do it! The only "proof" that there ever was a fault was through the media. Remember, the media is not your friend!
Happy to still keep using mine (is slated for swap out to S7E which is not the phone I forked out $1350 for, that is for sure!)
My phone survived a huge cooking with the Oculus dodgy update, so I feel it is one of the good ones
I know some users here who definitely match your discussed behaviour though!
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I was actually thinking of making a thread exactly like this.
I, too, have noticed this. I truly think they are former Note 7 owners who wish they'd kept their devices. They know they made the wrong choice giving it up, and are now stuck using a device that has half the features. And as they stare at their crappy phone, they fill with rage that other people still have Note 7s and are enjoying them to the fullest.
Nobody is taking my Note 7 away from me, that's for sure. This device is so far ahead of everything else. It's better than 90% of 2017's devices will be.
I had the exact same thoughts as well. Very unlike XDA forum members, who are in general all about doing whatever they want with their devices, regardless of who says what.
I will be returning mine for a refund at the latest possible moment, since unfortunately the idea of keeping it indefinitely with no future updates and no Oculus support, doesn't work for me.
But it's kind of irrelevant what I will be doing with mine. The point is, it's entirely up to me and I am sick and tired of people who I don't know, nor care to know, telling me THEY know better.
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I was actually thinking of making a thread exactly like this.
I, too, have noticed this. I truly think they are former Note 7 owners who wish they'd kept their devices. They know they made the wrong choice giving it up, and are now stuck using a device that has half the features. And as they stare at their crappy phone, they fill with rage that other people still have Note 7s and are enjoying them to the fullest.
Nobody is taking my Note 7 away from me, that's for sure. This device is so far ahead of everything else. It's better than 90% of 2017's devices will be.
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I don't miss mine one bit. Care to keep generalizing? Maybe we just don't want our aircraft cabins filled with toxic fumes from smoldering batteries, as UNLIKELY as an event that may be. I for one don't mind people keeping their N7's. Do what you will. I do find it comical that people with small children in the home are hardcore defending keeping the device, however. Even though the slightest possibility of a device going up in smoke is slim to none, the safety of my family comes first. No amount of iris scanners and expandable storage can make up for a potential fire hazard in the home.
this forum is about people interesred in this device, I got my replacement, and I am happy with it, besides my carrier will keep a one year warranty, so, it is a good deal for me, in my country there is no mandatory recall, so, they can not force anybody to surrender the phone, also by no means , they wont block/deactivate remotely, as it woul be considered against your consumer rights, I started a thread about over sensitive s pen, and only thing I got was "get rid of your note7" in my opinion, this kind of replies defeat the entire purpose of this portal, that is helping and improving, there are lots of people keeping their note7, so, whoever returned, or backed from a note 7, should show some respect to those keeping it
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I don't miss mine one bit. Care to keep generalizing? Maybe we just don't want our aircraft cabins filled with toxic fumes from smoldering batteries, as UNLIKELY as an event that may be. I for one don't mind people keeping their N7's. Do what you will. I do find it comical that people with small children in the home are hardcore defending keeping the device, however. Even though the slightest possibility of a device going up in smoke is slim to none, the safety of my family comes first. No amount of iris scanners and expandable storage can make up for a potential fire hazard in the home.
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winol said:
this forum is about people interesred in this device, I got my replacement, and I am happy with it, besides my carrier will keep a one year warranty, so, it is a good deal for me, in my country there is no mandatory recall, so, they can not force anybody to surrender the phone, also by no means , they wont block/deactivate remotely, as it woul be considered against your consumer rights, I started a thread about over sensitive s pen, and only thing I got was "get rid of your note7" in my opinion, this kind of replies defeat the entire purpose of this portal, that is helping and improving, there are lots of people keeping their note7, so, whoever returned, or backed from a note 7, should show some respect to those keeping it
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What country are you in out of interest. I'm in the UK and I'm not entirely sure if it's voluntary or mandatory. Also if it is voluntary then we may still get some updates which at the very least means security patches. I hope.
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It is evident on other Android Forums too, I got "Warnings" and had my Posts outright Deleted when I posted this link:
https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/32960624/iphone-7-catches-fire-destroys-vehicle/#page1
(Strange how the reporter's name is Niamh)
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andoxviii said:
I was actually thinking of making a thread exactly like this.
I, too, have noticed this. I truly think they are former Note 7 owners who wish they'd kept their devices. They know they made the wrong choice giving it up, and are now stuck using a device that has half the features. And as they stare at their crappy phone, they fill with rage that other people still have Note 7s and are enjoying them to the fullest.
Nobody is taking my Note 7 away from me, that's for sure. This device is so far ahead of everything else. It's better than 90% of 2017's devices will be.
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I agree. I was actually an unfortunate Pre-ordered Note 7 customer who never got theirs in time due to the recall and have even posted asking if anyone who has one instead of returning it I would buy it from them. It was ignored by a moderator who in turn replied to the previous poster asking if they had received their 'fireproof' return shipping box.
Either these are shills or are just hypnotized by the recent mass media campaign and genuinely believe the Note 7's are dangerous. Yet you need to question that when you post clear evidence that even today's news is showing iPhones exploding and destroying cars.
People are either brainwashed or are working undercover counter intelligence
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I can't be the only one who's noticed that there's a bunch of people on this forum, who for whatever reason seem to be on some kind of campaign. These people are insisting that Note 7 owners must power them off and return them and they take every opportunity to say that the phone is a huge danger and that no only must all handsets be returned, but that the networks and Samsung must block the devices. It goes far beyond the occasional post and the odd comment. It's repeated, vitriolic, aggressive, confrontational and dogmatic.
Fine upstanding citizens these people may be and perhaps they are so motivated to ensure the safety of their fellow humans. But I seriously doubt that. I doubt most of them surely don't care a damn about the safety of other phone users. So what's driving this campaign of vitriol? Why are these people not simply making their point and moving on? Is it because they have surrendered their devices and don't like others still enjoying their Note 7's? is it because they are somehow feeling inadequate and feel the need to demonstrate their superiority?
I can't remember circumstances before where so many self-rightous, sanctimonious vigilantes have sprung up who seem hell bent on TELLING others what they must do.
I'd like to say to all of them, what people do with their own Note 7's is a matter entirely for them, their supplier and their mobile operator. That's it. Beyond that, it's NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.
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Samsung is also one of these people who keep telling to give back your phone... weird...
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I don't miss mine one bit. Care to keep generalizing? Maybe we just don't want our aircraft cabins filled with toxic fumes from smoldering batteries, as UNLIKELY as an event that may be. I for one don't mind people keeping their N7's. Do what you will. I do find it comical that people with small children in the home are hardcore defending keeping the device, however. Even though the slightest possibility of a device going up in smoke is slim to none, the safety of my family comes first. No amount of iris scanners and expandable storage can make up for a potential fire hazard in the home.
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I don't plan on taking my personal phone (Note 7 w8) into an airplane. I plan on using my work iPhone for that.
Nor do I have children.
And if all you see is an iris scanner and expandable storage when you look at the Note 7, then this device isn't for you anyways.
Check out the Samsung.com website of your country. To see if the recall is voluntary or mandatory. All sites will ask you to power down and exchange for another Galaxy model ?
?hardcore signatures?
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I've not posted in the various other threads on this topic but to the starter of this thread, how would you feel if someone posted pretty much what you said but instead of talking about the note 7 it was talking about drinking and driving?
Many of us live in societies with incredible levels of self entitlement. People believing that they are special and rules don't apply to them. It's not really about YOUR safety it's about the safety of people around you. That is the real issue. While some of the people who are keeping their phones may never take it outside their house I don't for a second believe that none of them will take them on planes, subways, etc. Just like drinking and driving you may get away with it for a very long time but it only takes one time to change your life forever. In order to keep a note 7 as normal it requires you to actively circumvent updates from Samsung. If something goes wrong and someone dies there will be no "I didn't realize" defense. You absolutely will be going to jail.
As for myself I surrendered my note 7 yesterday. I was sad to see such a great phone go to waste but I have no regrets. I respect my safety and that of others around me too much to take a risk. I fly frequently and don't need any headaches like this.
I don't for a second think that Samusung is taking this **** kicking, both financially and to their reputation for fun. I think it's wise to heed their advice and replace the phone.
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I've not posted in the various other threads on this topic but to the starter of this thread, how would you feel if someone posted pretty much what you said but instead of talking about the note 7 it was talking about drinking and driving?
Many of us live in societies with incredible levels of self entitlement. People believing that they are special and rules don't apply to them. It's not really about YOUR safety it's about the safety of people around you. That is the real issue. While some of the people who are keeping their phones may never take it outside their house I don't for a second believe that none of them will take them on planes, subways, etc. Just like drinking and driving you may get away with it for a very long time but it only takes one time to change your life forever. In order to keep a note 7 as normal it requires you to actively circumvent updates from Samsung. If something goes wrong and someone dies there will be no "I didn't realize" defense. You absolutely will be going to jail.
As for myself I surrendered my note 7 yesterday. I was sad to see such a great phone go to waste but I have no regrets. I respect my safety and that of others around me too much to take a risk. I fly frequently and don't need any headaches like this.
I don't for a second think that Samusung is taking this **** kicking, both financially and to their reputation for fun. I think it's wise to heed their advice and replace the phone.
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Great - good for you. No need to repeat it any more.
CerveCesar said:
Check out the Samsung.com website of your country. To see if the recall is voluntary or mandatory. All sites will ask you to power down and exchange for another Galaxy model
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As you say. Ask.
Chippy_boy said:
Great - good for you. No need to repeat it any more.
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Not planning too. I know it's a waste of time trying to convince people so I don't try. You asked a question, I answered it.
And you never answered my question.
Wooba99 said:
Not planning too. I know it's a waste of time trying to convince people so I don't try. You asked a question, I answered it.
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Thanks.
EDIT: Sorry I missed your question. The answer is, the two are not comparable. Drinking and driving is proven to be extremely dangerous. Note 7's are proven to be pretty safe. The issue is that they are not as safe as some people would like, but to compare the levels of risk to that of driving a car whilst drunk, is misleading.
There's already a flight ban in place and people I would imagine are sensible enough to respect that. I know I would. And regards the public safety risk more generally, NO-ONE has suffered serious injury and there have been no deaths out of 4 million units shipped. Worst case, the device is going to catch fire and guess what - people will put it out. The idea that automatically when a phone catches fire then some kind of apocalypse occurs, is also misleading. These are fundamentally fairly safe devices. Samsung however necessarily look at it down the other end of the telescope since they are responsible for all 4 million devices and whereas the chance of you or I having an issue with our phone is very very low, the chances of Samsung having an issue with one of the 4 million of their phones, is very very high. That's why they needed to cancel the phone, not because any one phone is intrinsically dangerous - it is not.
I am of the belief that some, not all, of the owners who returned their Note 7's would be better served with an iPhone anyways. Those are the one's that take a shine toward being dominated in every aspect of their lives.