We’ve heard your feedback on our decision not to update the HTC Desire HD to Android 4.0. We completely understand that this is a controversial decision.
For more background, due to how storage on the HTC Desire HD is partitioned – and the larger size of Android 4.0 – it would require re-partitioning device storage and overwriting user data in order to install this update. While technically advanced users might find this solution acceptable, the majority of customers would not. We also considered ways to reduce the overall size of the software package, but this would impact features and functionality that customers are currently using. Even after installing the update, there were other technical limitations which we felt negatively impacted the user experience.
We believe an update should always improve the user experience and carefully evaluate each update based on this criteria. While we are very aware of the disappointment from this decision, we believe the impact to user experience was too great. We recognize this is a change from our previous statement and for that we’re truly sorry.
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Link.
So I see DHD forums are moar or less in the same state these forums were a year ago.
We have petitions, we probably have nerds who ain't buyin another HTC phone evar. DHD never got official ICS update, as Desire never got GB. I'll give them that
As usual, I'm with the big bad company on this.
EDIT: gawd dang, I just saw what I did here - another useless ICS thread >.>
You spammer...
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So now it's possible to have full working ics for desire? I hope porting it will be not too difficult because desire and dhd are similar, they only differ for a HD after desire!
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Link.
So I see DHD forums are moar or less in the same state these forums were a year ago.
We have petitions, we probably have nerds who ain't buyin another HTC phone evar. DHD never got official ICS update, as Desire never got GB. I'll give them that
As usual, I'm with the big bad company on this.
EDIT: gawd dang, I just saw what I did here - another useless ICS thread >.>
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Yup, totally agreed.
Standard users would never understand a full wipe due to repartioning. The other issue is the battery, to small...period. When HTC said "other technical limitations" I'm sure this was one. Sure, XDA got ics onto the HD, congrats, bet we hear noob complaints about battery, lag, etc.
The one thing they ****could**** do is the same they did for us, a stripped down ics ROM with "reduced functionality" released on HTC dev. That should placate the power users, the rest.....will not even notice.
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If HTC gives in, then yes there will probably a developer edition of ICS for DHD. But how many DHD users are there now compared to Desire users last year when we were in the same situation? Is their number enough to make HTC reconsider?
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So now it's possible to have full working ics for desire? I hope porting it will be not too difficult because desire and dhd are similar, they only differ for a HD after desire!
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Desire HD has adreno 205. When we had ports based on GB we still had drivers, now no matter what we won't get them so project butter, hw acceleration and the rest of the drool material will most likely remain in dreams of those who wish to use Desire for next 10-15yrs.
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Standard users would never understand a full wipe due to repartioning.
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^
Furthermore all potential issues that could arise from such procedure, I wouldn't want to be in shoes of the customer support when that happens. One has to know demographic structure behind those petitions and rage most easily explained if we draw a simple analogy to this board - out of 500 people say who frequent this board 50 people use either sense or aosp variant of something made for Desire and 450 use something else and are willing to argue whether it works 70% or 73%. Neither is 100.
I hope HTC got their grip together with making phones with 500 or 768 mb roms and promising software updates for any period of time while they oversaw the rate those updates are going to grow in size.
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Desire HD has adreno 205. When we had ports based on GB we still had drivers, now no matter what we won't get them so project butter, hw acceleration and the rest of the drool material will most likely remain in dreams of those who wish to use Desire for next 10-15yrs.
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Furthermore all potential issues that could arise from such procedure, I wouldn't want to be in shoes of the customer support when that happens. One has to know demographic structure behind those petitions and rage most easily explained if we draw a simple analogy to this board - out of 500 people say who frequent this board 50 people use either sense or aosp variant of something made for Desire and 450 use something else and are willing to argue whether it works 70% or 73%. Neither is 100.
I hope HTC got their grip together with making phones with 500 or 768 mb roms and promising software updates for any period of time while they oversaw the rate those updates are going to grow in size.
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Agreed again,
HTC always designs things a bit close for confort, or to put it in a pocketnow writers words "they always design their phones with at least one fatal flaw.".
I believe things are getting better though, for example the sensation had almost 2gb reserved for the various system partions, the entire one series has close to 4gb (couldn't be bothered to look up the actual partions...irrevelvant anyways). Some noobs on the One V forum were complaining about the partion sizes as close to 2gb are literally unused at this time. To me, that means room for future updates (though with only 512mb of ram.....how good? Hence the one tragic flaw arguement).
I messed with sense 2.1, 3.0, 2.1 / 3.0 hybrids, 3.5, etc but since May I am back to gb with sense 1.9. The only combo that really works on our desires.
I wish the current devs well, new things are always fun, but if you want a truelly functioning daily driver running the best our hardware is capable of, that is gingerbread with old sense, or aosp........period.
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I messed with sense 2.1, 3.0, 2.1 / 3.0 hybrids, 3.5, etc but since May I am back to gb with sense 1.9. The only combo that really works on our desires.
I wish the current devs well, new things are always fun, but if you want a truelly functioning daily driver running the best our hardware is capable of, that is gingerbread with old sense, or aosp........period.
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Hear hear, opinion I always advocated. I doubt you'd have much success getting it to the puny minds in an ics related hysteria these days.
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Desire HD has adreno 205. When we had ports based on GB we still had drivers, now no matter what we won't get them so project butter, hw acceleration and the rest of the drool material will most likely remain in dreams of those who wish to use Desire for next 10-15yrs.
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Erklat you delude me, I was sarcastic
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Ha ha...I think HTC just copied the message from the announcement regarding the Desire and pasted it into the DHD one.
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Erklat you delude me, I was sarcastic
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I have repented and am back on the path of righteousness.
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I have repented and am back on the path of righteousness.
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...as long as I have enough sarcastic and ironic toughts about funny people here on forum...
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Related
HTC guys just announced the brand new Sense update with cloud sync, remote wipe, Maps caching and other just completely awesome stuff for the HD and the Z. Can we hope for it on our devices? Post your opinions!
What's New in HTC Sense for Android?
UPDATE: Thanks to xmoo we already have a system dump of the new sense which will be on HTC Desire Z and Desire HD
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=785057
UPDATE 2: "there is no final decision" for Desire/Legend, no cake for Hero users
Update: HTC Russia says that it needs some things on Android side, but the whole tweet looks more "yes" than "no". Can we expect future updates? Watch this thread
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I would really like to be able to use Sense in landscape like on the HTC Desire Z! Takes for ever now to enter a new wifi access point.
No word from @HTC_Ru. Maybe you should ask your local dept?
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i will get the htc desire hd when it comes
Watched the video on Youtube - the new Sense definitely has some nice tweaks! Would love to see a Desire ("SD") version of the ROM! Love the Desire HD massive display but doubt I could make it work with the small battery!
mickliq said:
Watched the video on Youtube - the new Sense definitely has some nice tweaks! Would love to see a Desire ("SD") version of the ROM! Love the Desire HD massive display but doubt I could make it work with the small battery!
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can you provide a link?thx
Htc said at the news thing today that it should be coming to our desires too
(seen as the desire is higher spec device than the desire Z (desire Z runs at 800mhz)
I have been investigating this "super fast boot" feature in new sense.
for those that have not seen it, it boots in literally about 2 seconds.
I believe this is due to the phone will never "turn off" properly, like blackberries, it will just go into a hibernation like state that can be easily woken back up.
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i will get the htc desire hd when it comes
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Also thought about that, but I'm kinda short on money to get an unlocked one (about $1000 here in Russia). Wish they got that thing rooted quickly...
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Lennyuk said:
I have been investigating this "super fast boot" feature in new sense.
for those that have not seen it, it boots in literally about 2 seconds.
I believe this is due to the phone will never "turn off" properly, like blackberries, it will just go into a hibernation like state that can be easily woken back up.
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Yeah, a two second boot isn't possible under Android unless it's just doing a suspend to RAM. It means the battery will drain faster when 'off'.
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Yeah, a two second boot isn't possible under Android unless it's just doing a suspend to RAM. It means the battery will drain faster when 'off'.
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I have never turned my phone off. No, really
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Lennyuk said:
Htc said at the news thing today that it should be coming to our desires too
(seen as the desire is higher spec device than the desire Z (desire Z runs at 800mhz)
I have been investigating this "super fast boot" feature in new sense.
for those that have not seen it, it boots in literally about 2 seconds.
I believe this is due to the phone will never "turn off" properly, like blackberries, it will just go into a hibernation like state that can be easily woken back up.
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did HTC really confirm the sense update is coming to our Desires? one thing im thinking about both the Z and HD have internal 1.5ROM... so im the new sense might not leave us with much free internal storage
i'm not worried about performance Z has 800mhz + 512RAM
just the storage issue might make it impossible...but it's nothing XDA members can't solve
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did HTC really confirm the sense update is coming to our Desires? one thing im thinking about both the Z and HD have internal 1.5ROM... so im the new sense might not leave us with much free internal storage
i'm not worried about performance Z has 800mhz + 512RAM
just the storage issue might make it impossible...but it's nothing XDA members can't solve
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We have a2sd, and guess data2sd is also possible, so that shouldn't be a problem.
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Update 2: HTC Russia says that "there is no final decision yet" for the Desire and the Legend, no cake for Hero users
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hamdir said:
did HTC really confirm the sense update is coming to our Desires? one thing im thinking about both the Z and HD have internal 1.5ROM... so im the new sense might not leave us with much free internal storage
i'm not worried about performance Z has 800mhz + 512RAM
just the storage issue might make it impossible...but it's nothing XDA members can't solve
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yeah we should be able to "port" it if it came to that, but I am sure it will come officially....eventually.....
You can pre-order the Desire HD on MoDaCo - tempted...
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You can pre-order the Desire HD on MoDaCo - tempted...
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I was till I saw the price....
Ah bollocks here we go again a will they won't they thread with a thousand different answers from different HTC script readers/call centre staff..
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Here's a video of the new Sense features: (jump in 2:30)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_3kLDD-tZs
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Here's a video of the new Sense features: (jump in 2:30)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_3kLDD-tZs
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Did I notice the app drawer still lagging at the bottom really need that sorted...
I found that in the Nexus S forum that there is a HTC Sense ROM version launched as a beta. I would love to see it running on our GNex since the hardware is simular it should be possible.
The problem with Sense was that the battery drain was huge. But since GNex and HD2 devs managed to solve this in better kernels it should be possible to make it run like a charm on our GNex
I came from HTC HD2 and we had so much different ROM to flash like: WP7, all andriod version, windows 95, ubuntu, meego and much more... I kinda mis that on the GNex. A lot of HD2 devs are working on GNex so I hope that we have those possibilities also in the near future.
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I had a nexus s from what it looked like sense was hard as hell to get running.
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I don't think that will be happening. HTC doesn't use PowerVR or TI OMAP so proprietary stuff like that would be a ***** and it might not be worth the trouble. Also...you bought a nexus phone for the stock Android experience and latest and greatest...WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO KILL IT WITH FIRE?
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Kinda beats the idea of having a Nexus if you ask me.
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I really don't understand people on here!! If you want Sense, buy a HTC phone!!! People buy nexus's because they cant stand the skinning of manufacturers, and now people are asking for touchwiz and sense ports, which just slow the phone down! WWWHHHYYYY?!?!?!
people also buy the Gnex becuase of its developer support. Most people here love flashing stuff and though I love stock ICS I would love to try out the latest touchwiz or sense as well
One, i didnt bought the phone for plain ics experience but due to the hardware specs.
Two, I hope that the device will get more options in flashing ROMs. Not cuz i like Sense roms but just cuz its possible. And i'm more into plain ics dont get me wrong, also my HD2 had plain ICS without Sense cuz it runs better.
Thirth, I hope that ppl will see smartphones as "normal" computers and see the possibilities of running and developing other OS then Andriod. A lot of people are so short sighted and focus only on the Andriod experience. But there is more capable with the device .. so much more.
Take Ubuntu for example, most of our kernels are based on the ubuntu kernel. Its possible to run plain Ubuntu. The experience would be like a laptop. You can connect it to a screen and add a mouse. Ofcourse you could make a dual boot with the choice of ics and the other system with Haret. Running ICS as native OS and booting Ubuntu from internal storage with Haret.
Dont get me wrong I love the phone as it is and I love the way ICS works and would use it always as daily use. But from developing perspective there are so much more possibilities wich also can give the GNex a lot bigger status as best phone =)
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Btw the only thing not working correct one the Nexus S Sense ROM is wifi and its driver related. Ppl like Cotulla or TyTung have made a custom driver (wifi, gpsa, camera and lots more) so its not impossible .
I truely loved to see how ppl managed to make a custom driver for a camera and how it worked code wise since the standard device drivers are closed source. In my opinion those ppl are truely DEVs like the kernel builders. Crappy apps or game programmers arent true DEVs in my opinion .. i'm a app/game/web programmer my self and dont consider my self to be a true mobile DEV.
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people also buy the Gnex becuase of its developer support. Most people here love flashing stuff and though I love stock ICS I would love to try out the latest touchwiz or sense as well
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Bingo! 10 char
Brilliant. There are so many different launchers and really nice widgets on the Market. I just don't understand why somebody would like to kill his phone with Sense or Touchwiz. Latest Sense even looks like Launcher Pro. We do have the after Sense isn't it?
Sense isn't impossible as long as you port Sense, and not the whole damn rom. Biggest issue we saw when we tried a while back was gralloc. That may be less an issue now that there are ICS versions of Sense out there now.
I just read Team BAMF have something in the works as far as sense on the gnex.....
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I just read Team BAMF have something in the works as far as sense on the gnex.....
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That would be news to me, and it shouldn't be.
adrynalyne said:
That would be news to me, and it shouldn't be.
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http://www.teambamf.net/f56/sense-rom-3653/
Well,
Being the date on that is in December ...
The poster was incorrect as we made no such announcement. We do have 'sick' stuff in the works, but its not Sense. Our Sense expert gave it a shot and without having ICS HTC kernel source, its unlikely to work any time soon.
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Well,
Being the date on that is in December ...
The poster was incorrect as we made no such announcement. We do have 'sick' stuff in the works, but its not Sense. Our Sense expert gave it a shot and without having ICS HTC kernel source, its unlikely to work any time soon.
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So when the source for the HTC One X gets released then it will be possible?
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adrynalyne said:
Well,
Being the date on that is in December ...
The poster was incorrect as we made no such announcement. We do have 'sick' stuff in the works, but its not Sense. Our Sense expert gave it a shot and without having ICS HTC kernel source, its unlikely to work any time soon.
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Yeah old news, but now you have expert HTC man joelz9614 on the team
xl DIGITAL lx said:
So when the source for the HTC One X gets released then it will be possible?
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I don't know exactly. Erishasnobattery is the one who attempted it. I believe there were gralloc issues. Back then, we had no ICS Sense to work with though, so I don't know, it may be entirely possible now.
Hey...We should get this going!
Really unnecessary bump.
Either way, it's all about choice, people buy this phone for superior development, so people just like options.
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Since HTC have revealed the HTC One V for Q2 of this year. Do you reckon some devs will be able to port the RUU over to the HTC Desire?
If you don't know what it is; it can be found here: http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...bile-phones/hands-on-htc-one-v-review-1066217
It states it has a single core 1Ghz CPU and sense 4.0 on top of ICS. Do you think this could be run smoothly on our two year old Desire's once HWA is fully fixed?
topgeardave said:
It states it has a single core 1Ghz CPU and sense 4.0 on top of ICS. Do you think this could be run smoothly on our two year old Desire's once HWA is fully fixed?
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a) even if it has 1GHz single core cpu, it for sure is not one from 2008
b) Sense 3.5 doesn't work smoothly, so mine (possibly broken) logic says that it probably won't.
c) I for one couldn't care less if it gets ported or not. I know that software version is one part of the coin, where no number of updates will change the fact what Desire fundamentally is - a two year old with archaic architecture.
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*snip* once HWA is fully fixed?
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I doubt it'll get fixed.
As above, even though its a 1ghz processor, the desires technology is now outdated. Its possible we may get some sense 4.0 with ICS but who knows.
Will just have to wait and see what we get
If hwa is delt with I'm sure we might get sense 4.0 but won't let my hopes go up just yet. Although One V has a newer cpu/gpu so do Sensation/Evo3D/Amaze which run sense 3.0/5 (custom) much like I run it on my desire. There's not that much multitasking in comparison but it's running stable and very, very fast. Comparable to the best sense 1/2.0 roms out here. And it seems that sense 4.0 is lighter on ram since V has just 512mb compared with desires 576. My 2c.
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PlayPetepp said:
Comparable to the best sense 1/2.0 roms out here.
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Blasphemy '-.-
erklat said:
Blasphemy '-.-
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Try it, then reply.
Everyone is entitled to their own oppinion anyway.
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Try it, then reply.
Everyone is entitled to their own oppinion anyway.
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Well, there's "smooth" and and there's "sense 3.5 smooth". I've tried most 3.0+ roms but I don't think that people here truly understand what smooth is. I was one of those people. Then I tried oxygen (Mildwild's version to be precise) and it utterly ruined sense for me. I just can't go back.
Although I do miss sense from time to time
Wasn't talking about aosp, miui or cm7. Imho, sense will never be as fast. But that's not the topic of this thread anyway.
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I thought AceS 3D port of Sense 3.0 was smooth - but then I went to ICS 0.3.x beta's and was amazed how quick and responsive it was even as a beta.
I do like Sense a lot- especially the camera and people apps but it's days are numbered where ICS is concerned... still wouldn't want to go to stock Gingerbread to be honest but it's probably heaps smoother still
AceS smooth?
It was very, very slow and huge in ram.
I wasn't able to open tweet deck when playing music!
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If aosp roms I've only tried mildwild and my current sense rom is at least as fast, if not faster... Not bragging or something. It's an objective opinion. I was really disappointed, since everyone here seems to think otherwise.
One V uses a S2 CPU. The Desire has a S1.
Although, interestingly, the V has slightly less RAM than the Desire.
If ROMs get ported, I don't think there will be RAM issues, but there will be a lot of lag issues etc.
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I tried reading this topic, but after I got to erklat's post I was hit by an epiphany: None of this matters to me, Sense sucks.
bortak said:
Sense sucks.
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Why exactly? Sense is the best thing that happened to android.
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Why exactly? Sense is the best thing that happened to android.
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FTFY
ICS is the best thing that happened to android
Htc said that Sense 4 is lighter than 3.5 + we have One V with 512 Ram so i think it's possible to port and to work smoothly.
"From the original Sense up to Sense 3.5 we added too many things. The original concept was that it had to be simple and it had to be easy to use and we had that philosophy, but over time it got cluttered," Kodera said.
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/44715/htc-sense-got-too-complicated
w1000i said:
Htc said that Sense 4 is lighter than 3.5 + we have One V with 512 Ram so i think it's possible to port and to work smoothly.
"From the original Sense up to Sense 3.5 we added too many things. The original concept was that it had to be simple and it had to be easy to use and we had that philosophy, but over time it got cluttered," Kodera said.
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/44715/htc-sense-got-too-complicated
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True, but what about internal memory?
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FTFY
ICS is the best thing that happened to android
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Could not agree more.
I'm all up for this an am infact waiting for this to be ported over to the desire. This new Sense sounds like it'll be less on an issue to run on our devices than Sense 3 and 3.5. Plus I'm looking forward to Android 4 on a Sense phone.
Hopefully this starts happening soon!
Now I only looked at its specs, I don't know about all its specs, but if this indicates anything we could possibly run the One V ruu right?
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_One_V
I even saw development running on DInc S, which I know is upgraded more in specs. But is this not worth looking into?
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I agree with u
It would be awesome to have that Rom
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Well I honestly feel this old dog has one more trick.
I even seen the DInc2 has development off the One V.
I think we could get it working with a good dev with the right patience. I swear if I had a computer and had knowledge on roms and such I would give it a go.
If anything I have the feeling it will be like a 3.5 Rom, limited by ram and speed. Hope someone tries to dwell into this.
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Its a difficult project. it involves getting the ROM work which may involve fixing up the kernel which in turn needs the ROM built correctly to be tested.
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There is a thread about this in the Dev section. It's probably fallen to the second or third page by now.
The biggest problem with Sense 3.5 and up stuff is that it's so big. Yes, Sense 4 is trimmed down from 3.x, but I would imagine it's still considerably bigger than what we have. The problem with any newer versions of Sense was handled by moving a lot of system stuff to /data, but that'll only take you so far.
Also, as others have pointed out, no kernel source. That's another big problem.
I'm not saying that it *can't* happen, all I'm saying is, at some point, you're just going to have to upgrade to get the new software.
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The biggest problem with Sense 3.5 and up stuff is that it's so big. Yes, Sense 4 is trimmed down from 3.x, but I would imagine it's still considerably bigger than what we have. The problem with any newer versions of Sense was handled by moving a lot of system stuff to /data, but that'll only take you so far.
Also, as others have pointed out, no kernel source. That's another big problem.
I'm not saying that it *can't* happen, all I'm saying is, at some point, you're just going to have to upgrade to get the new software.
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Obviously we will eventually have to get a new device, but why not try to fit something that will probably work? Specs are identical, now ill admit. You have me on the memory, but it can't be that big if its running the same specs as us. Probably 250-400mb max. I just see a problem with things working if we get a kernel to boot.
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Obviously we will eventually have to get a new device, but why not try to fit something that will probably work? Specs are identical, now ill admit. You have me on the memory, but it can't be that big if its running the same specs as us. Probably 250-400mb max. I just see a problem with things working if we get a kernel to boot.
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According to HTC's website, the One V has 4 GB of internal storage. On the Rezound, over 1 GB of the internal storage is just Android. Sense 4.0 would have to be way, way trimmed down to fit on what the Incredible has.
Give me awhile and I'll download the RUU and see if I can figure out how much space it's going to take up. That'll give everyone a clear idea on if it's worth pursuing or just impossible.
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According to HTC's website, the One V has 4 GB of internal storage. On the Rezound, over 1 GB of the internal storage is just Android. Sense 4.0 would have to be way, way trimmed down to fit on what the Incredible has.
Give me awhile and I'll download the RUU and see if I can figure out how much space it's going to take up. That'll give everyone a clear idea on if it's worth pursuing or just impossible.
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There's different One's Series.
One V can fit, its S & X that we would not be able to run.
Incredible Internal is I believe 6-8Gb's.
One V is actually running on - Desire, Droid Incredible 2 & S and I believe Thunderbolt is getting a Rom working, probably have to look for that.
Edit: the ruu port Tribulatti has made flashes to our phone but does not boot - we need a working kernel and probably a few other things.
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withbloodskies said:
There's different One's Series.
One V can fit, its S & X that we would not be able to run.
Incredible Internal is I believe 6-8Gb's.
One V is actually running on - Desire, Droid Incredible 2 & S and I believe Thunderbolt is getting a Rom working, probably have to look for that.
Edit: the ruu port Tribulatti has made flashes to our phone but does not boot - we need a working kernel and probably a few other things.
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If it's on the Desire, it should work. But with our luck with HTC releasing kernel source, don't hold your breath.
godsmacked4653 said:
If it's on the Desire, it should work. But with our luck with HTC releasing kernel source, don't hold your breath.
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DesireHD sorry, if that makes a difference.
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withbloodskies said:
DesireHD sorry, if that makes a difference.
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Yeah, the Desire HD is a little different. The DHD has the Adreno 205, I believe, plus a newer Snapdragon, on top of more memory. It's more like the Incredible 2. In contrast, the original Desire has very similar specs to the Incredible.
This is on the whole space concern but I saw in the development thread that it could possibly run on 220 Mbs instead of most 3.5 ROMs running on like 320. Just a fun fact.
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With a Sense 4a/ICS Sense ROM, this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1598865), my Limited Edition Spiderman Beats By Dre headphones, some theming of my own, and a white case, I am going to transform my DINC2 into what I call an "HTC One Incredible S"
ok?
Beats already comes with Sense 4 by default. You don't need to flash anything else unless you want to mess it up.
funky_snowman said:
ok?
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Freedom of posts in the general section, just take your ignorance elsewhere bro -_-
ChillyChan said:
Beats already comes with Sense 4 by default. You don't need to flash anything else unless you want to mess it up.
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thanks for telling me that, didn't know thanks.
ChillyChan said:
Beats already comes with Sense 4 by default. You don't need to flash anything else unless you want to mess it up.
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Yea the great thing I like about sense 4 is that beats is integrated throughout. So it works on YouTube and Pandora
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I thought I read on here somewhere that when we get ics we will still never get true sense 4 only 3.6? I know very little about the sense roms so I am just trying to educate myself a little.
Jayydude glad you got you a dinc 2. I ended up sending the guy that gave you his blackberry for free the batteries and charger I had offered to you for your x2 when you had problems. Him and his son was happy. You should love this phone over the x2. I am running the M5.01 ext4 and really like it. Also flashed the 3.0 patch to get the sick lockscreen. Some sick widgets and awesome battery life.
Travisdroidx2 said:
I thought I read on here somewhere that when we get ics we will still never get true sense 4 only 3.6? I know very little about the sense roms so I am just trying to educate myself a little.
Jayydude glad you got you a dinc 2. I ended up sending the guy that gave you his blackberry for free the batteries and charger I had offered to you for your x2 when you had problems. Him and his son was happy. You should love this phone over the x2. I am running the M5.01 ext4 and really like it. Also flashed the 3.0 patch to get the sick lockscreen. Some sick widgets and awesome battery life.
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Just to clarify, last season's HTC devices get an ICS update in the form of Android 4.0.3/Sense 3.6. This applies to the Sensation (all models), Vivid, Amaze, Incredible 2/S and even the Desire S/HD, along with a couple of others.
You won't see Sense 4.0 on any of these 'older' devices officially. It was the One series' drawcard, and it won't be officially ported backwards. That's what XDA is for
That said, I'm really impressed with performance increases on the Sensation, Vivid and Amaze from the ICS update. Usability of Sense 3.6, especially the Launcher, is greatly improved. You should get a good little boost out of the official ICS when it arrives.
juzz86 said:
Just to clarify, last season's HTC devices get an ICS update in the form of Android 4.0.3/Sense 3.6. This applies to the Sensation (all models), Vivid, Amaze, Incredible 2/S and even the Desire S/HD, along with a couple of others.
You won't see Sense 4.0 on any of these 'older' devices officially. It was the One series' drawcard, and it won't be officially ported backwards. That's what XDA is for
That said, I'm really impressed with performance increases on the Sensation, Vivid and Amaze from the ICS update. Usability of Sense 3.6, especially the Launcher, is greatly improved. You should get a good little boost out of the official ICS when it arrives.
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fwiw, it looks like msm7x30 devices (ds/dhd/inc s/inc2/is4g, etc) will get 4.0.4/sense 3.6 as thats what the desire s leak was
and typically the updates are all very similar to each other
nitsuj17 said:
fwiw, it looks like msm7x30 devices (ds/dhd/inc s/inc2/is4g, etc) will get 4.0.4/sense 3.6 as thats what the desire s leak was
and typically the updates are all very similar to each other
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Well I learned something today Justin, thanks mate!
Why do you think the older devices are getting the 0.0.1 difference? RAM?
EDIT: MSM8x55?
juzz86 said:
Well I learned something today Justin, thanks mate!
Why do you think the older devices are getting the 0.0.1 difference? RAM?
EDIT: MSM8x55?
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most likely they started working on the older devices later, and by then 4.0.4 was in aosp id guess
given that htc updates on the same os version so frequently, id imagine the evo 3d/sensation/rezound will move up as well
some of the msm7x30 devices on gb at points had 2.3.3, 2.3.4, 2.3.5, and 2.3.6 (dont think any of that chipset ever saw 2.3.7)
Travisdroidx2 said:
I thought I read on here somewhere that when we get ics we will still never get true sense 4 only 3.6? I know very little about the sense roms so I am just trying to educate myself a little.
Jayydude glad you got you a dinc 2. I ended up sending the guy that gave you his blackberry for free the batteries and charger I had offered to you for your x2 when you had problems. Him and his son was happy. You should love this phone over the x2. I am running the M5.01 ext4 and really like it. Also flashed the 3.0 patch to get the sick lockscreen. Some sick widgets and awesome battery life.
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I just got it and hr ago, sadly they just sent the extended battery ( free ) today so I can't use it until tomorrow. But that's true no Sense 4.0 just 3.6 :/ But hey any add on to ICS is amazing to me. I love sense But I'm going to flash sense 3.6 + ics rom, beats audio + xloud patch, capacitive button fix, touch recovery, and etc. I wish I could get the on - screen htc version of the ics softkeys and disable the capacitive buttons + lights that would really be cool ^_^