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SENSE UI Port to ET4G?

Hello,
I know this is little more than a pipe dream, but it would be fantastic if SENSEUI could somehow get ported to the ET4G.
I love this device's hardware and underlying physical technology (e.g. camera, clockspeed, ram capacity, onboard storage, etc).
....But TouchWiz is full of fail, IMO. It truly comes off as half baked and I think Samsung took too many judicious liberties with overhauling the base Android kernel. Additionally, their third party software like Kies really doesn't make much sense for someone coming from the more plug-n-play friendly HTC family.
Just a rant/thought.

oblivion0 said:
Hello,
I know this is little more than a pipe dream, but it would be fantastic if SENSEUI could somehow get ported to the ET4G.
I love this device's hardware and underlying physical technology (e.g. camera, clockspeed, ram capacity, onboard storage, etc).
....But TouchWiz is full of fail, IMO. It truly comes off as half baked and I think Samsung took too many judicious liberties with overhauling the base Android kernel. Additionally, their third party software like Kies really doesn't make much sense for someone coming from the more plug-n-play friendly HTC family.
Just a rant/thought.
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it's possible, but u i doubt that it'll happen. sense and Touchwiz are two very different UI and is a pain in the ass to port lol. i hardly think any devs would take a dive into it. But hey dont give up hope. maybe some dev might dive into it . and yeah the guy above me is 100% correct

newalker91 said:
This has been discussed on just about every non-HTC phone. It still remains nearly impossible to do. HTC uses a lot of proprietary framework code that ties deep into the Android system. Even with Sense being open-source now, we still do not have the ability to mimic all of its features. Before we could even begin to think about injecting Sense UI framework, the phone would have to be completely AOSP. As you can see we aren't even close to being done with that. Your best bet is to use a custom launcher and make it look like sense.
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We have cm7 just GPS and 4g don't work.
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The only project I know about was someone was porting sense to the Nexus S, they got it to boot up but I don't know if any progress was made since.

phatmanxxl said:
The only project I know about was someone was porting sense to the Nexus S, they got it to boot up but I don't know if any progress was made since.
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Swamp Goblin ported a Sense ROM on the NS4G. He is looking to get an Epic Touch and plans on porting ROMs for us as well. He also ported a MotoBlur and International SGS2 ICS leak but that one still needs work. Hopefully he will be over here soon
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oblivion0 said:
...but it would be fantastic if SENSEUI could somehow get ported to the ET4G...
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You have a very strange definition of fantastic, lol.
Signed,
Former long-time HTC owner.

Sense rocks, but MOST of it can be re-created with some pay applications. Beautiful widgets, Fancy Widgets, and HD widgets are a start. Launcher Pro Plus has some cool widgets too.
That said, I'd much rather prefer that ALL manufacturers drop the skins and go AOSP stock launcher. If they want to bake in all sorts of widgets to define the experience, thats fine, but i want to be able to turn it off and run it as if it were completely stock android...

daneurysm said:
You have a very strange definition of fantastic, lol.
Signed,
Former long-time HTC owner.
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Agreed. HTC Sense on my HTC Evo 3D gave me the black screen of death. It's bloated and buggy.
I removed HTC Sense from my Evo devices and they ran so much better.

I have never owned an HTC device but those that tried the Sense port on the Nexus said it ran smoother than on Evo and looked better because of the AMOLED screen. It was smooth and fast for me but no 4g...
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oblivion0 said:
Hello,
I know this is little more than a pipe dream, but it would be fantastic if SENSEUI could somehow get ported to the ET4G.
I love this device's hardware and underlying physical technology (e.g. camera, clockspeed, ram capacity, onboard storage, etc).
....But TouchWiz is full of fail, IMO. It truly comes off as half baked and I think Samsung took too many judicious liberties with overhauling the base Android kernel. Additionally, their third party software like Kies really doesn't make much sense for someone coming from the more plug-n-play friendly HTC family.
Just a rant/thought.
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Why would you want sense? It slows your phone down sucks your battery and in some cases hides things that should be out in the open... Aosp ftw, and if that's not an option I will stick to twiz
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[HELP REQUEST] port of sense 4.0 from HTC Endeavor *UPDATE*

Hi all devs!!! I was only wandering if someone can help with this port...
I will try but i haven't so much skills
I think this won't be so difficoult cause the leaked rom is for a 720p display so nothing needs to be resized
(Yeah if u don't like sense its not my problem so don't reply here saying sense suck --')
I will try to start port process today and post my results so don't delete this thread please
UPDATE: i can't find RUU file so i can't start...if someone have it please share it with me

I'm no dev, but aren't most sense ports failing because the sense sdk is closed source and there are a lot of libs and stuff unavailable for devs?

You can't just port Sense to another platform, it's not just a launcher but an entire framework
Plus this should be in Q&A not Dev

First step. Modify, build and successfully boot a kernel for Sense. Without it, the ROM will never boot. Sense needs kernel patches.

also if the leaked rom is for a 720p display don't signifies that the port is easy\fast.
anyway good luck for that!

EddyOS said:
You can't just port Sense to another platform, it's not just a launcher but an entire framework
Plus this should be in Q&A not Dev
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I know that but u are wrong....nexus one have sense....nexus s have sense...galaxy s have sense...why we haven't to try?

I actually got the ruu booting on my nexus s 4g, so this is very possible for gnex.. you even have the same screen resolution..
I'll help try to port it to gnex, that would be pretty cool

swamp goblin said:
I actually got the ruu booting on my nexus s 4g, so this is very possible for gnex.. you even have the same screen resolution..
I'll help try to port it to gnex, that would be pretty cool
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**** yeah someone that thinks that all the ports are possible to a nexus lol
Can u share the ruu with me?

this might help
http://m.androidcentral.com/htc-endeavour-ruu-has-treasure-trove-sense-40-screen-shots

But why on earth would you want to slow the Nexus down with Sense? My Sensation with Sense 3.6 (ICS 4.0.3) is horribly slow compared to stock Android

EddyOS said:
But why on earth would you want to slow the Nexus down with Sense? My Sensation with Sense 3.6 (ICS 4.0.3) is horribly slow compared to stock Android
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Cause we can and people have to have different choices...if i want TO port that why i haven't to do that?

I'm all for choices, but this is a BAD choice and would make the Nexus worse. It's seriously not worth porting it over.
Taking Sense to the Nexus One was easy as the Desire is the same phone so there wasn't a lot of work needed

EddyOS said:
I'm all for choices, but this is a BAD choice and would make the Nexus worse. It's seriously not worth porting it over.
Taking Sense to the Nexus One was easy as the Desire is the same phone so there wasn't a lot of work needed
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No port is a bad choice, who wouldn't want the option to run sense on the gnex? If I had a gnex that would be my first project.
It couldnt make the device worse, more options are better

who wouldn't want to port sense on gnex?....anyone,seeing the effort on this 3ad!
and i think it's right.sense is good for any phone with a proper associated UI (and IMHO sense it's the best respect others,like tw,motoblur etc)but in a google phone,inwhich proper manufactured UI is absent,i agree with eddyOS,it's a nonsense.can only slowdown the system and eating most of the ram.why go straight on with a porting of a thing despite the absence of which was conceived and designed specifically to streamline the system ...?

Let the guy try! This would be interesting for sure!
sent from my Nexus Prime

nothin says that he shouldn't try...i only express my opinion!

This would be really awesome
Although I agree that it might slow down the system a bit, its amazing to have a lot of choices. Its a developer phone and the more roms, kernels and mods we have the better (although quality is important TOO )
BTW....swamp goblin, you really seem to love porting (just game from Nexus S), your work is fantastic

My hat off to whoever accomplishes this. I think it would be brilliant to see. Like people said, choice is good.
Aren't there any legal issues on this? I'm not too sure HTC would take it well.

that would be awesome... i hope its possible

Proud But surprised new gn owner

Hey All! Just got my gn a couple weeks ago and I love it! I must say though I'm a little surprised at how few roms there are out for it. I know it's new and all but still it HAS been out since last fall! Is this how long it normally takes to build a fan base with these phones? I'm not complaining. I just found it curious, coming from the Nexus S to owning the new Android flagship that there would still be such relatively little support by now. Any takers on the topic? I'd Be interested to hear your input!
Oh By the way, I'm in no way bashing the phone or this forum. I think both are outstanding. Just making conversation lol

santeana said:
Hey All! Just got my gn a couple weeks ago and I love it! I must say though I'm a little surprised at how few roms there are out for it. I know it's new and all but still it HAS been out since last fall! Is this how long it normally takes to build a fan base with these phones? I'm not complaining. I just found it curious, coming from the Nexus S to owning the new Android flagship that there would still be such relatively little support by now. Any takers on the topic? I'd Be interested to hear your input!
Oh By the way, I'm in no way bashing the phone or this forum. I think both are outstanding. Just making conversation lol
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Why do we need more roms? The current ones provide everything we need.

Same complaints about the epic touch, six months later there's a ridiculous amount of ROMs to flash.

it's better to have a few very good roms than a lot of roms that are not so good.

I just counted 25 ROMs in the dev section. Should our phones be walking to the store for us?
What more do you need??
Sent from the future.

Well take a look at the nexus s forum. there's a rom for everyone! One Can never have too much choice! And again it was just a question. No Need to get all defensive.

less roms equals the nest selection

I think the reason is that a couple of roms got such a headstart in users and features, the devs don't see a demand. Sometimes it seems like over half the GNex owners use aokp, myself included.
For me it's surprising to see so little in flashable mods. I'd love to try some roms, but they don't have a customizable lock screen or notification toggles. To me those are must haves, so I stick with aokp. Maybe when cyanogenmod finally goes stable, devs can use it as a base for great roms.
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I can see what you mean. I also came from the Nexus S, and I did notice that there are a lot more ROMS for it. But it seems like there is no low quality roms for the Gnex. It really is a casse of quality over quantity. And we also have some groundbreaking roms here, such as paranoidandroid.

Quality v.s. quantity.
Are you looking for ROMs built from ASOP or ROMS that are just a klang of another with skins?
IMHO, ASOP or CM9 is all that a person needs. Then add what you want and ignore the rest.

I think as far as ROMS go we have hit a plateau. Until the next release (assuming there are new features) nearly everything is available over the ROMS we currently have. I can see a few kernels coming up with new ideas but I think ROMS are as up to speed as we can expect for a while
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santeana said:
Well take a look at the nexus s forum. there's a rom for everyone! One Can never have too much choice! And again it was just a question. No Need to get all defensive.
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The fact the Nexus S has been around for a lot longer, that can happen.

santeana said:
Hey All! Just got my gn a couple weeks ago and I love it! I must say though I'm a little surprised at how few roms there are out for it. I know it's new and all but still it HAS been out since last fall! Is this how long it normally takes to build a fan base with these phones? I'm not complaining. I just found it curious, coming from the Nexus S to owning the new Android flagship that there would still be such relatively little support by now. Any takers on the topic? I'd Be interested to hear your input!
Oh By the way, I'm in no way bashing the phone or this forum. I think both are outstanding. Just making conversation lol
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Gotta be careful what you say around here. I had opened up a similar thread where I was "complaining" about the Rom Support for the nexus and got flamed big time as effect.
Just watch out around here.. they don't like opinions
But coming from a sgs 2 I also was dissapointed to not find hundreds of different Roms for the nexus as there were for the galaxy s 2. Also every Rom on the nexus looks about the same and has about the same Features while for the galaxy they really differed.
I'm on bamf with bond Kernel and love them. But also waiting for an update from both since weeks....
-sent from my galaxy nexus

wait till jelly bean comes out

we have less ROMs coz they're all based on ICS , nexus S has various gingerbread versions too, not to mention it's been there for quite some time. as someone already said, basically we have everything we need with the current ROMs, except ParanoidAndroid, the only new idea could be a port of sense or tw for example, but then there's the same problem with drivers, certain hardware not working and so on.. Some people think for instance, that buying HTC or Samsung devices will give them more options, sense/TW roms and aosp/miui , and it does sound good in theory , but the reality is that u will always end up with a buggy AOSP experience (there's always something that's not working right-been through many devices and it's the same story all over again).
As a conclusion, people should make a little research before getting a device, if u like what sense or TW (or any other custom UI) offers u , then u should consider that device, if u want a real AOSP experience then the nexus is ur best choice. Not to mention that if u have a fetish to change the way ur UI looks u can always get a 3rd party launcher, AOSP handles it best coz sense or TW occupy more RAM and running a market launcher on top of all this just makes it worse.

yeah a lot of you guys make sense. I guess with all the options on the nexus s I had become a bit of a crack flasher. I just enjoyed trying out new and different roms and playing with them. but as someone just said here earlier all the ones here are pretty much the same. I'm using aokp now and I like it. I just also like other stuff too lol
thanks for your opinions everyone! keep em coming! great reading

I agree. I miss my galaxy s2 i9100. That phone has the most development. I wanna give you a reason for more development... it was expensive but it was launched everywhere in the world. Second you can run 4 different (base) types of roms.
1) touchwiz gingerbread
2) cm7 aosp based gingerbread
3) touchwiz ICS
4) cm9 aosp based ics roms
So you can see how there are always roms to flash. I loved flashing early builds as well. So I encourage more devs to build different and unique roms rather than taking features from other roms. Thanks
Sent from Galaxy Nexus

Consider it a blessing. Towards the dying days of the SE X10, most of the renowned devs had moved on and then we had a million different variations of every kind of rom you could think of. We had heaps of MIUI roms which were all identical but with a different theme. Same story with Cyanogen roms.
There's really no need to have a plethora of roms because they all end up being the same. Its better to have a selection of high quality roms to pick from.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

in my experience most of the roms available are just variations of stock **** by some kid who learned to deodex and root. because what the world really needs is another ****ty rom based on sense.
there are no GB roms, no roms based on some vendor-ruined stock build. just AOSP. there are few bugs, just awesome features. you don't need a ton of roms when you have that.

hp13 said:
I agree. I miss my galaxy s2 i9100. That phone has the most development. I wanna give you a reason for more development... it was expensive but it was launched everywhere in the world. Second you can run 4 different (base) types of roms.
1) touchwiz gingerbread
2) cm7 aosp based gingerbread
3) touchwiz ICS
4) cm9 aosp based ics roms
So you can see how there are always roms to flash. I loved flashing early builds as well. So I encourage more devs to build different and unique roms rather than taking features from other roms. Thanks
Sent from Galaxy Nexus
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I second that.
-sent from my galaxy nexus

HTC One Incredible S

With a Sense 4a/ICS Sense ROM, this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1598865), my Limited Edition Spiderman Beats By Dre headphones, some theming of my own, and a white case, I am going to transform my DINC2 into what I call an "HTC One Incredible S"

ok?

Beats already comes with Sense 4 by default. You don't need to flash anything else unless you want to mess it up.

funky_snowman said:
ok?
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Freedom of posts in the general section, just take your ignorance elsewhere bro -_-

ChillyChan said:
Beats already comes with Sense 4 by default. You don't need to flash anything else unless you want to mess it up.
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thanks for telling me that, didn't know thanks.

ChillyChan said:
Beats already comes with Sense 4 by default. You don't need to flash anything else unless you want to mess it up.
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Yea the great thing I like about sense 4 is that beats is integrated throughout. So it works on YouTube and Pandora
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I thought I read on here somewhere that when we get ics we will still never get true sense 4 only 3.6? I know very little about the sense roms so I am just trying to educate myself a little.
Jayydude glad you got you a dinc 2. I ended up sending the guy that gave you his blackberry for free the batteries and charger I had offered to you for your x2 when you had problems. Him and his son was happy. You should love this phone over the x2. I am running the M5.01 ext4 and really like it. Also flashed the 3.0 patch to get the sick lockscreen. Some sick widgets and awesome battery life.

Travisdroidx2 said:
I thought I read on here somewhere that when we get ics we will still never get true sense 4 only 3.6? I know very little about the sense roms so I am just trying to educate myself a little.
Jayydude glad you got you a dinc 2. I ended up sending the guy that gave you his blackberry for free the batteries and charger I had offered to you for your x2 when you had problems. Him and his son was happy. You should love this phone over the x2. I am running the M5.01 ext4 and really like it. Also flashed the 3.0 patch to get the sick lockscreen. Some sick widgets and awesome battery life.
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Just to clarify, last season's HTC devices get an ICS update in the form of Android 4.0.3/Sense 3.6. This applies to the Sensation (all models), Vivid, Amaze, Incredible 2/S and even the Desire S/HD, along with a couple of others.
You won't see Sense 4.0 on any of these 'older' devices officially. It was the One series' drawcard, and it won't be officially ported backwards. That's what XDA is for
That said, I'm really impressed with performance increases on the Sensation, Vivid and Amaze from the ICS update. Usability of Sense 3.6, especially the Launcher, is greatly improved. You should get a good little boost out of the official ICS when it arrives.

juzz86 said:
Just to clarify, last season's HTC devices get an ICS update in the form of Android 4.0.3/Sense 3.6. This applies to the Sensation (all models), Vivid, Amaze, Incredible 2/S and even the Desire S/HD, along with a couple of others.
You won't see Sense 4.0 on any of these 'older' devices officially. It was the One series' drawcard, and it won't be officially ported backwards. That's what XDA is for
That said, I'm really impressed with performance increases on the Sensation, Vivid and Amaze from the ICS update. Usability of Sense 3.6, especially the Launcher, is greatly improved. You should get a good little boost out of the official ICS when it arrives.
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fwiw, it looks like msm7x30 devices (ds/dhd/inc s/inc2/is4g, etc) will get 4.0.4/sense 3.6 as thats what the desire s leak was
and typically the updates are all very similar to each other

nitsuj17 said:
fwiw, it looks like msm7x30 devices (ds/dhd/inc s/inc2/is4g, etc) will get 4.0.4/sense 3.6 as thats what the desire s leak was
and typically the updates are all very similar to each other
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Well I learned something today Justin, thanks mate!
Why do you think the older devices are getting the 0.0.1 difference? RAM?
EDIT: MSM8x55?

juzz86 said:
Well I learned something today Justin, thanks mate!
Why do you think the older devices are getting the 0.0.1 difference? RAM?
EDIT: MSM8x55?
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most likely they started working on the older devices later, and by then 4.0.4 was in aosp id guess
given that htc updates on the same os version so frequently, id imagine the evo 3d/sensation/rezound will move up as well
some of the msm7x30 devices on gb at points had 2.3.3, 2.3.4, 2.3.5, and 2.3.6 (dont think any of that chipset ever saw 2.3.7)

Travisdroidx2 said:
I thought I read on here somewhere that when we get ics we will still never get true sense 4 only 3.6? I know very little about the sense roms so I am just trying to educate myself a little.
Jayydude glad you got you a dinc 2. I ended up sending the guy that gave you his blackberry for free the batteries and charger I had offered to you for your x2 when you had problems. Him and his son was happy. You should love this phone over the x2. I am running the M5.01 ext4 and really like it. Also flashed the 3.0 patch to get the sick lockscreen. Some sick widgets and awesome battery life.
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I just got it and hr ago, sadly they just sent the extended battery ( free ) today so I can't use it until tomorrow. But that's true no Sense 4.0 just 3.6 :/ But hey any add on to ICS is amazing to me. I love sense But I'm going to flash sense 3.6 + ics rom, beats audio + xloud patch, capacitive button fix, touch recovery, and etc. I wish I could get the on - screen htc version of the ics softkeys and disable the capacitive buttons + lights that would really be cool ^_^

[Q] Google Goggles Camera Bug (1.8.1)

Hey there guys, I've been using XDA-Developers for a long time, it certainly is the #1 source of info for us android users and modders. Finally registered myself in the hopes I can get some help with an issue I'm having atm. While using Google Goggles 1.8.1 in Snapshot mode the camera will be all messed up showing a greenish deformed image, as a matter of fact looks like a thermal camera or something similar. If I press the button to take the snapshot, strangely it works fine, if I go into continuous mode it doesn't have the same problem, works fine.
I'm using the Beta 14 of Cyanogenmod 9.
The camera application works perfectly, just google goggles is messed up for some reason.
Anybody ever seen this problem? Thanks in advance.

switch to a gingerbread rom and your problem will be gone
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demkantor said:
switch to a gingerbread rom and your problem will be gone
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Hi, thanks for the fast response. I'll certainly try that, did you have that experience too or is it just a guess since I'm using a Beta ROM? Thanks again.

there isnt and may never be an official ics rom for the vision, this means the developers have not had the proper drivers for the camera so it is hacked together on all ics roms. these roms have come a long way over the past six months or so but any app using the camera may never work 100%
the best ics roms for the g2/dz (in my opinion) are elitemod and mimicry, you can try one of those and see if google goggles works fine or just move down to 2.3x

demkantor said:
there isnt and may never be an official ics rom for the vision, this means the developers have not had the proper drivers for the camera so it is hacked together on all ics roms. these roms have come a long way over the past six months or so but any app using the camera may never work 100%
the best ics roms for the g2/dz (in my opinion) are elitemod and mimicry, you can try one of those and see if google goggles works fine or just move down to 2.3x
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I hope that's not 100% accurate, cause I don't see why the G2/DZ couldn't have an official ICS release, I mean, it's hardware can support it perfectly so what would be the reason? Anyway, I'll revert later to 2.3x and see how Google Goggles handles, but even if it works fine I'll get back to the latest beta of Cyanogenmod 9, everything's been working perfectly so far, aside from this Google Goggles problem, and if it never gets solved I can still live with that, I usually don't even use it, just wondered why it wasn't working as it should. But thanks for the info so far.

Dimitri Vladkov said:
I hope that's not 100% accurate, cause I don't see why the G2/DZ couldn't have an official ICS release, I mean, it's hardware can support it perfectly so what would be the reason? Anyway, I'll revert later to 2.3x and see how Google Goggles handles, but even if it works fine I'll get back to the latest beta of Cyanogenmod 9, everything's been working perfectly so far, aside from this Google Goggles problem, and if it never gets solved I can still live with that, I usually don't even use it, just wondered why it wasn't working as it should. But thanks for the info so far.
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it is sad but true, there may be loads of reasons for no official update but the main one may simply be htc has decided they want us to move to a newer phone, even if hardware supports the latest firmware they will must feel if they keep supporting old phones people will not buy their new ones. even if this is an incorrect assumption the g2/dz (in my opinion) still is the best phone to date so I wouldn't update anyhow.
like I said have fun with gingerbread for a while and then consider elitemod ics or mimicry, those are the only two ics roms that I like. but right now I'm back to cm7 for a while, I too like a working camera, and by working I mean to the quality gingerbread cameras work on the vision.
oh and I like your name
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demkantor said:
it is sad but true, there may be loads of reasons for no official update but the main one may simply be htc has decided they want us to move to a newer phone, even if hardware supports the latest firmware they will must feel if they keep supporting old phones people will not buy their new ones. even if this is an incorrect assumption the g2/dz (in my opinion) still is the best phone to date so I wouldn't update anyhow.
like I said have fun with gingerbread for a while and then consider elitemod ics or mimicry, those are the only two ics roms that I like. but right now I'm back to cm7 for a while, I too like a working camera, and by working I mean to the quality gingerbread cameras work on the vision.
oh and I like your name
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You're right, and I totally agree, I won't update my G2/DZ anytime soon, it still serves me more than well and I love the physical keyboard. Some people don't care about it, but I like to run some emulators, genesis, snes and the likes and to play using the physical keyboard instead of touching the screen is a whole different world. Also, I don't see the point of having a big screen latest smartphone when you lose like half the screen when you have to type cause of the virtual keyboard. Who knows, if HTC ever releases in the future a Desire Z 2 maintaining everything that's great about the G2/DZ but upgrading to the latest hardware, I might buy it. Oh, and thanks for the compliment.

have a friend with the same name is all, have fun flashing new roms!
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demkantor said:
it is sad but true, there may be loads of reasons for no official update but the main one may simply be htc has decided they want us to move to a newer phone, even if hardware supports the latest firmware they will must feel if they keep supporting old phones people will not buy their new ones.
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QFT
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demkantor said:
have a friend with the same name is all, have fun flashing new roms!
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Same name and same surname? Wow, never seen another one like me lol. Thanks, I always do, love to mod my phone, just bought a new 1800mAh Mugen Power Battery for it, changed the xeon led for a new one (original went faulty) and now I'm just waiting for my new Zagg InvisibleSHIELD replacement and new rubberized cover. =] Hey, do you run your G2/DZ overclocked? I'm running right now at 1.5GMhz max and the original 800Mhz minimum using the SmartAssV2 Governor. The battery life on ICS is WAAAAAAY better than it was with Ginger.

Dimitri Vladkov said:
I hope that's not 100% accurate, cause I don't see why the G2/DZ couldn't have an official ICS release, I mean, it's hardware can support it perfectly so what would be the reason? Anyway, I'll revert later to 2.3x and see how Google Goggles handles, but even if it works fine I'll get back to the latest beta of Cyanogenmod 9, everything's been working perfectly so far, aside from this Google Goggles problem, and if it never gets solved I can still live with that, I usually don't even use it, just wondered why it wasn't working as it should. But thanks for the info so far.
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Marketing, it's old enough to the point that it's more economically feasible without as much *****yness from consumers to not bother providing drivers/etc for it when consumers can just buy a brand new model to get ICS.
I'm in the same boat though, my camera is 'functional' I can see the screen just fine and can take a picture, it just not as feature-packed or as high quality as it was with gingerbread.

kbeezie said:
Marketing, it's old enough to the point that it's more economically feasible without as much *****yness from consumers to not bother providing drivers/etc for it when consumers can just buy a brand new model to get ICS.
I'm in the same boat though, my camera is 'functional' I can see the screen just fine and can take a picture, it just not as feature-packed or as high quality as it was with gingerbread.
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Exactly, but even so the Pros of running ICS on the G2/DZ easily surpass the Cons. I for one can say my battery life at least doubled, and the system runs way more smoothly than it used to with Gingerbread. I guess now we can only hope that those great guys at the development teams can come up with solutions for everything, who knows? Maybe a newer model from HTC with ICS has a camera driver compatible with the G2/DZ. Until then I'll keep experimenting with the Betas till I find the best solution.

Dimitri Vladkov said:
Exactly, but even so the Pros of running ICS on the G2/DZ easily surpass the Cons. I for one can say my battery life at least doubled, and the system runs way more smoothly than it used to with Gingerbread. I guess now we can only hope that those great guys at the development teams can come up with solutions for everything, who knows? Maybe a newer model from HTC with ICS has a camera driver compatible with the G2/DZ. Until then I'll keep experimenting with the Betas till I find the best solution.
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well in regards to battery life and other performance benefits you can mainly thank the Rom creators for that. I've no doubt that if you tried to use a pretty much 'stock' configuration of ICS the battery life would be much worse and performance wouldn't seem quite a nice. Most of the benefits I enjoy in my current ICS rom is primarily credited to the rom's creator as he did quite a number on optimizing it specifically for the G2/Vision.