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Droid X or DInc??

My wife's og Droid took a poop so I bought an Incredible which I'll have in a day or 2. I love my X but am thinking about swapping her to have something new (to me) to play with until I upgrade this summer. Plus the X is crippled with its locked bootloader. Has anyone here had both and prefer one over the other? Decisions decisions....
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cvbcbcmv said:
I hate the Droid x. I hate Motorola phones. Whenever I see one I feel like punching the owner and smashing it. I don't know, just me. I love my dinc.
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Sooo... I should swap? Lol. Thanks. Any rom and theme suggestions?
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I have both (work DX and personal DInc). There are a couple of ROM for the DX but alot of different options for the DInc.
If you want to get addicted, swap...
ZooDad

I had a Droid 2, bought the incredible and never looked back. So much better..
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Droid x is nice if you like big screens and motoblur. But if you want to root and flash new roms the incredible is the way to go. Its also more pocketable.

Droid x by a mile. The Droid x is a better built phone, it has (in my opinion) a more capable processor, has a bigger screen (that's kind of a personal preference), HDMI out, many times better battery life, offical gingerbread, and the Motoblur is a) not as bad as everyone says (sense is so much worse and uses resources) and b) can be practically disabled through a custom rom.
However, I think that you shouldn't get either device if you can avoid it, go for a newer device, both are almost a year old now.
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chbennett said:
Droid x by a mile. The Droid x is a better built phone, it has (in my opinion) a more capable processor, has a bigger screen (that's kind of a personal preference), HDMI out, many times better battery life, offical gingerbread, and the Motoblur is a) not as bad as everyone says (sense is so much worse and uses resources) and b) can be practically disabled through a custom rom.
However, I think that you shouldn't get either device if you can avoid it, go for a newer device, both are almost a year old now.
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I'm on Apex so I pretty much have zero blur. The purchase of the Inc is to immediately replace her d1 with a better (and working) phone. Whichever I do (either keep my X or give it to her and take the Inc), it will shortly be replaced by the next unlocked bootloader - 4g - front facing camera - dual core Android phone.
Thanks for the opinions ppl!
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Well I'm going to say the Inc, custom kernels can all but eliminate the battery life problem, and I find the Droid X's screen just too big. AMOLED or SLCD will kick the crap out of the X's screen in quality any day too. ROM selection on the Inc blows the X out of the water and chokes it to death, and the Inc ROM dev community will, at this rate, go much longer than the X's. Sense is much better than any kind of Blur, and if you don't want either, the Inc has the option of good, clean CM7, as well as OMGB/OMFGB for a more stock experience than even CM7. When I bought the Inc, I bought it from a hardware and software perspective; Sense beats Blur, better screen/screen size on the Inc, didn't even think about custom ROMs at that point. I'd still heartily recommend the Droid Incredible to anyone, even at this point in its lifespan.

do you have gingerbread on the x yet?

My first android phone was an X. I rooted it and installed custom roms and loved it. Then one day I bought an incredible on a whim, and I liked it SO much better. IMO, HTC makes way better phones than motorola. The inc has an unlocked bootloader, which is great for trying out different radios and kernels. I think the incredible's size is very nice, and the screen IS a lot prettier (SCLD or AMOLED are nicer). Lastly, there is a lot more ROM development and options. Not to mention the incredible has cyanogenmod, which is more or less considered the best AOSP ROM out there.
The only kicker is going to be the battery life. Even if you install a good ROM you probably won't be able to make it through the whole day if you use it a decent amount. The extended batteries are getting cheaper on Amazon though, since the phone is nearing it's end of life.
Hope that helped! I would totally go for the swap. You can always swap back if you hate it! (And have a nice wife. )

mirrin said:
do you have gingerbread on the x yet?
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Yep, I'm on Apex 2.0 beta.
DrPepperLives23 said:
My first android phone was an X. I rooted it and installed custom roms and loved it. Then one day I bought an incredible on a whim, and I liked it SO much better. IMO, HTC makes way better phones than motorola. The inc has an unlocked bootloader, which is great for trying out different radios and kernels. I think the incredible's size is very nice, and the screen IS a lot prettier (SCLD or AMOLED are nicer). Lastly, there is a lot more ROM development and options. Not to mention the incredible has cyanogenmod, which is more or less considered the best AOSP ROM out there.
The only kicker is going to be the battery life. Even if you install a good ROM you probably won't be able to make it through the whole day if you use it a decent amount. The extended batteries are getting cheaper on Amazon though, since the phone is nearing it's end of life.
Hope that helped! I would totally go for the swap. You can always swap back if you hate it! (And have a nice wife. )
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You make excellent l points, sir, thanks!
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chbennett said:
Droid x by a mile. The Droid x is a better built phone, it has (in my opinion) a more capable processor, has a bigger screen (that's kind of a personal preference), HDMI out, many times better battery life, offical gingerbread, and the Motoblur is a) not as bad as everyone says (sense is so much worse and uses resources) and b) can be practically disabled through a custom rom.
However, I think that you shouldn't get either device if you can avoid it, go for a newer device, both are almost a year old now.
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Lets get cracking on this one.
The processor, the TI OMAP vs the Qualcomm Snapdragon, both clocked at 1 GHz give little to no real difference in performance minus a couple 100 points in benchmarks.
The Incredible still has TV out, HDMI is nice and all, but I wouldn't consider it a deal breaker.
Gingerbread is more then accessible through Cyanogenmod, and if not the OTA should be out soon enough if you dig Sense. Plus the tons of other ROMs we have avalible at our disposal. Plus all of the custom kernals that allow overclocking, underclocking, overvolting, undervolting, SBC, HAVS/Smartass, ect.
I love the screen size on the X, but the actual screen sharpness and brightness is pretty lacking vs our AMOLED or SLCD screens side by side. This is MY take on it, and like others have posted, function over form. Also, just wait for something new to come out, or at least get an X2.

DINC FTW.
Slap some Virtuous on that puppy with the HeyItsLou Kernal and you're set. BEEYAH!

So I got the inc and I'm very disappointed. I'm trying to root using unrevoked and after the first reboot when it tries to "run root" the phone reboots itself before it's finished, causing an error. Now the phone keeps rebooting shortly after the boot animation. I can unlock the screen and before it's finished loading it'll reboot.
Some details:
Stock Android 2.2
Unrevoked 3.2
Correct hboot drivers
Usb debugging is on
Charge only - remember this
Factory Reset does not fix the reboot issue for me.
I've done this for a buddy's inc last year with not a single problem as well as an evo so I'm familiar with unrevoked and htc devices.
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EDIT: I'm going to make this into a thread since there are probably some brilliant dinc people who aren't frequenting this thread...

zwade01 said:
I'm on Apex so I pretty much have zero blur. The purchase of the Inc is to immediately replace her d1 with a better (and working) phone. Whichever I do (either keep my X or give it to her and take the Inc), it will shortly be replaced by the next unlocked bootloader - 4g - front facing camera - dual core Android phone.
Thanks for the opinions ppl!
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I actually had a D1 before I got my INC and was running CM7, as soon as I got the Inc I installed CM7 and never looked back. Where the D1 struggled and even froze on occasion, the Inc jumped hurdled and jumped again. This thing is awesome!

gregsteezy said:
DINC FTW.
Slap some Virtuous on that puppy with the HeyItsLou Kernal and you're set. BEEYAH!
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I ran this combo before CM, worked great!

chbennett said:
...Motoblur is not as bad as everyone says (sense is so much worse and uses resources)...
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He...he didn't...wow, he did.
Put any Motorola device against an equivalent HTC device and watch the Motorola crash and burn. And now HTC will be unlocking all bootloaders. Game over. To the OP, you might have an SLCD device, which I heard causes problems with rooting. Do make a new thread, your problem will be solved in no time.

Keyboards said:
He...he didn't...wow, he did.
Put any Motorola device against an equivalent HTC device and watch the Motorola crash and burn. And now HTC will be unlocking all bootloaders. Game over. To the OP, you might have an SLCD device, which I heard causes problems with rooting. Do make a new thread, your problem will be solved in no time.
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Problem not solved (unless you count returning for a refund solved). I finally got it rooted, cm7'd, and constantly rebooted. Another gb sense rom, constant rebooted. Ruu stock, constant rebooted. I wish the inc I received wasn't faulty. I was looking forward to playing with it until the latest and greatest came out this summer. It wasn't a problem on my end, it did that since I opened it from the package before attempting to even check it out in its stock form.
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I kind of like Blur, but I would say go with the Incredible. Just for the awesome dev community (just take a look). If you switch, however, you can't blame me for the ORD that will most likely ensue.

I love the active ROM community on the Dinc. I had a Dinc, went to Droid X, and back to Dinc. Love the Dinc.

[Q] Any chance of seeing a stock Sense 3 ROM?

After seeing all of these Sense 3.0-based ROMs hitting the development section, I was just wondering if somebody is working on just a simple, debloated Sense 3 ROM with little deviation from stock? I'm still somewhat new to this so if it's something that's impossible to do then I understand. Just curious.

I agree, Pete needs to switch over to the HTC side already....

trginter said:
I agree, Pete needs to switch over to the HTC side already....
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He's still pretty dedicated to the Nexus S and Droid still so i doubt he's going to be choosing the Incredible 2 with all the new moto phones coming out, I'll think he'll go that route. I use Virtuous Unity, and it is stock I belive. If not, there is little deviation from stock.
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Virtuous is as stock a sense 3.0 experience as you will get on the inc2.

Virtuous is almost the exact same ROM as the stock Sensation. Hell it even still says the Sensation number under build. You wont find anything closer. It is debloated as well.

Thanks guys. I guess I will continue to keep Virtuous as my main backup.

pyramid and virtuous are both almost entirely stock 3.0 atm

Your thoughts on The HTC One V RUU ported to the HTC Desire?

Since HTC have revealed the HTC One V for Q2 of this year. Do you reckon some devs will be able to port the RUU over to the HTC Desire?
If you don't know what it is; it can be found here: http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...bile-phones/hands-on-htc-one-v-review-1066217
It states it has a single core 1Ghz CPU and sense 4.0 on top of ICS. Do you think this could be run smoothly on our two year old Desire's once HWA is fully fixed?

topgeardave said:
It states it has a single core 1Ghz CPU and sense 4.0 on top of ICS. Do you think this could be run smoothly on our two year old Desire's once HWA is fully fixed?
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a) even if it has 1GHz single core cpu, it for sure is not one from 2008
b) Sense 3.5 doesn't work smoothly, so mine (possibly broken) logic says that it probably won't.
c) I for one couldn't care less if it gets ported or not. I know that software version is one part of the coin, where no number of updates will change the fact what Desire fundamentally is - a two year old with archaic architecture.
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*snip* once HWA is fully fixed?
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I doubt it'll get fixed.

As above, even though its a 1ghz processor, the desires technology is now outdated. Its possible we may get some sense 4.0 with ICS but who knows.
Will just have to wait and see what we get

If hwa is delt with I'm sure we might get sense 4.0 but won't let my hopes go up just yet. Although One V has a newer cpu/gpu so do Sensation/Evo3D/Amaze which run sense 3.0/5 (custom) much like I run it on my desire. There's not that much multitasking in comparison but it's running stable and very, very fast. Comparable to the best sense 1/2.0 roms out here. And it seems that sense 4.0 is lighter on ram since V has just 512mb compared with desires 576. My 2c.
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PlayPetepp said:
Comparable to the best sense 1/2.0 roms out here.
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Blasphemy '-.-

erklat said:
Blasphemy '-.-
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Try it, then reply.
Everyone is entitled to their own oppinion anyway.
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PlayPetepp said:
Try it, then reply.
Everyone is entitled to their own oppinion anyway.
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Well, there's "smooth" and and there's "sense 3.5 smooth". I've tried most 3.0+ roms but I don't think that people here truly understand what smooth is. I was one of those people. Then I tried oxygen (Mildwild's version to be precise) and it utterly ruined sense for me. I just can't go back.
Although I do miss sense from time to time

Wasn't talking about aosp, miui or cm7. Imho, sense will never be as fast. But that's not the topic of this thread anyway.
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I thought AceS 3D port of Sense 3.0 was smooth - but then I went to ICS 0.3.x beta's and was amazed how quick and responsive it was even as a beta.
I do like Sense a lot- especially the camera and people apps but it's days are numbered where ICS is concerned... still wouldn't want to go to stock Gingerbread to be honest but it's probably heaps smoother still

AceS smooth?
It was very, very slow and huge in ram.
I wasn't able to open tweet deck when playing music!
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If aosp roms I've only tried mildwild and my current sense rom is at least as fast, if not faster... Not bragging or something. It's an objective opinion. I was really disappointed, since everyone here seems to think otherwise.

One V uses a S2 CPU. The Desire has a S1.
Although, interestingly, the V has slightly less RAM than the Desire.
If ROMs get ported, I don't think there will be RAM issues, but there will be a lot of lag issues etc.
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I tried reading this topic, but after I got to erklat's post I was hit by an epiphany: None of this matters to me, Sense sucks.

bortak said:
Sense sucks.
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Why exactly? Sense is the best thing that happened to android.

sudkcoce said:
Why exactly? Sense is the best thing that happened to android.
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FTFY
ICS is the best thing that happened to android

Htc said that Sense 4 is lighter than 3.5 + we have One V with 512 Ram so i think it's possible to port and to work smoothly.
"From the original Sense up to Sense 3.5 we added too many things. The original concept was that it had to be simple and it had to be easy to use and we had that philosophy, but over time it got cluttered," Kodera said.
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/44715/htc-sense-got-too-complicated

w1000i said:
Htc said that Sense 4 is lighter than 3.5 + we have One V with 512 Ram so i think it's possible to port and to work smoothly.
"From the original Sense up to Sense 3.5 we added too many things. The original concept was that it had to be simple and it had to be easy to use and we had that philosophy, but over time it got cluttered," Kodera said.
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/44715/htc-sense-got-too-complicated
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True, but what about internal memory?
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bortak said:
FTFY
ICS is the best thing that happened to android
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Could not agree more.

I'm all up for this an am infact waiting for this to be ported over to the desire. This new Sense sounds like it'll be less on an issue to run on our devices than Sense 3 and 3.5. Plus I'm looking forward to Android 4 on a Sense phone.
Hopefully this starts happening soon!

HTC One Incredible S

With a Sense 4a/ICS Sense ROM, this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1598865), my Limited Edition Spiderman Beats By Dre headphones, some theming of my own, and a white case, I am going to transform my DINC2 into what I call an "HTC One Incredible S"

ok?

Beats already comes with Sense 4 by default. You don't need to flash anything else unless you want to mess it up.

funky_snowman said:
ok?
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Freedom of posts in the general section, just take your ignorance elsewhere bro -_-

ChillyChan said:
Beats already comes with Sense 4 by default. You don't need to flash anything else unless you want to mess it up.
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thanks for telling me that, didn't know thanks.

ChillyChan said:
Beats already comes with Sense 4 by default. You don't need to flash anything else unless you want to mess it up.
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Yea the great thing I like about sense 4 is that beats is integrated throughout. So it works on YouTube and Pandora
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I thought I read on here somewhere that when we get ics we will still never get true sense 4 only 3.6? I know very little about the sense roms so I am just trying to educate myself a little.
Jayydude glad you got you a dinc 2. I ended up sending the guy that gave you his blackberry for free the batteries and charger I had offered to you for your x2 when you had problems. Him and his son was happy. You should love this phone over the x2. I am running the M5.01 ext4 and really like it. Also flashed the 3.0 patch to get the sick lockscreen. Some sick widgets and awesome battery life.

Travisdroidx2 said:
I thought I read on here somewhere that when we get ics we will still never get true sense 4 only 3.6? I know very little about the sense roms so I am just trying to educate myself a little.
Jayydude glad you got you a dinc 2. I ended up sending the guy that gave you his blackberry for free the batteries and charger I had offered to you for your x2 when you had problems. Him and his son was happy. You should love this phone over the x2. I am running the M5.01 ext4 and really like it. Also flashed the 3.0 patch to get the sick lockscreen. Some sick widgets and awesome battery life.
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Just to clarify, last season's HTC devices get an ICS update in the form of Android 4.0.3/Sense 3.6. This applies to the Sensation (all models), Vivid, Amaze, Incredible 2/S and even the Desire S/HD, along with a couple of others.
You won't see Sense 4.0 on any of these 'older' devices officially. It was the One series' drawcard, and it won't be officially ported backwards. That's what XDA is for
That said, I'm really impressed with performance increases on the Sensation, Vivid and Amaze from the ICS update. Usability of Sense 3.6, especially the Launcher, is greatly improved. You should get a good little boost out of the official ICS when it arrives.

juzz86 said:
Just to clarify, last season's HTC devices get an ICS update in the form of Android 4.0.3/Sense 3.6. This applies to the Sensation (all models), Vivid, Amaze, Incredible 2/S and even the Desire S/HD, along with a couple of others.
You won't see Sense 4.0 on any of these 'older' devices officially. It was the One series' drawcard, and it won't be officially ported backwards. That's what XDA is for
That said, I'm really impressed with performance increases on the Sensation, Vivid and Amaze from the ICS update. Usability of Sense 3.6, especially the Launcher, is greatly improved. You should get a good little boost out of the official ICS when it arrives.
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fwiw, it looks like msm7x30 devices (ds/dhd/inc s/inc2/is4g, etc) will get 4.0.4/sense 3.6 as thats what the desire s leak was
and typically the updates are all very similar to each other

nitsuj17 said:
fwiw, it looks like msm7x30 devices (ds/dhd/inc s/inc2/is4g, etc) will get 4.0.4/sense 3.6 as thats what the desire s leak was
and typically the updates are all very similar to each other
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Well I learned something today Justin, thanks mate!
Why do you think the older devices are getting the 0.0.1 difference? RAM?
EDIT: MSM8x55?

juzz86 said:
Well I learned something today Justin, thanks mate!
Why do you think the older devices are getting the 0.0.1 difference? RAM?
EDIT: MSM8x55?
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most likely they started working on the older devices later, and by then 4.0.4 was in aosp id guess
given that htc updates on the same os version so frequently, id imagine the evo 3d/sensation/rezound will move up as well
some of the msm7x30 devices on gb at points had 2.3.3, 2.3.4, 2.3.5, and 2.3.6 (dont think any of that chipset ever saw 2.3.7)

Travisdroidx2 said:
I thought I read on here somewhere that when we get ics we will still never get true sense 4 only 3.6? I know very little about the sense roms so I am just trying to educate myself a little.
Jayydude glad you got you a dinc 2. I ended up sending the guy that gave you his blackberry for free the batteries and charger I had offered to you for your x2 when you had problems. Him and his son was happy. You should love this phone over the x2. I am running the M5.01 ext4 and really like it. Also flashed the 3.0 patch to get the sick lockscreen. Some sick widgets and awesome battery life.
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I just got it and hr ago, sadly they just sent the extended battery ( free ) today so I can't use it until tomorrow. But that's true no Sense 4.0 just 3.6 :/ But hey any add on to ICS is amazing to me. I love sense But I'm going to flash sense 3.6 + ics rom, beats audio + xloud patch, capacitive button fix, touch recovery, and etc. I wish I could get the on - screen htc version of the ics softkeys and disable the capacitive buttons + lights that would really be cool ^_^

History repeating itself - GB fiasco rebirth on DHD

We’ve heard your feedback on our decision not to update the HTC Desire HD to Android 4.0. We completely understand that this is a controversial decision.
For more background, due to how storage on the HTC Desire HD is partitioned – and the larger size of Android 4.0 – it would require re-partitioning device storage and overwriting user data in order to install this update. While technically advanced users might find this solution acceptable, the majority of customers would not. We also considered ways to reduce the overall size of the software package, but this would impact features and functionality that customers are currently using. Even after installing the update, there were other technical limitations which we felt negatively impacted the user experience.
We believe an update should always improve the user experience and carefully evaluate each update based on this criteria. While we are very aware of the disappointment from this decision, we believe the impact to user experience was too great. We recognize this is a change from our previous statement and for that we’re truly sorry.
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Link.
So I see DHD forums are moar or less in the same state these forums were a year ago.
We have petitions, we probably have nerds who ain't buyin another HTC phone evar. DHD never got official ICS update, as Desire never got GB. I'll give them that
As usual, I'm with the big bad company on this.
EDIT: gawd dang, I just saw what I did here - another useless ICS thread >.>

You spammer...
:banghead:
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So now it's possible to have full working ics for desire? I hope porting it will be not too difficult because desire and dhd are similar, they only differ for a HD after desire!
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erklat said:
Link.
So I see DHD forums are moar or less in the same state these forums were a year ago.
We have petitions, we probably have nerds who ain't buyin another HTC phone evar. DHD never got official ICS update, as Desire never got GB. I'll give them that
As usual, I'm with the big bad company on this.
EDIT: gawd dang, I just saw what I did here - another useless ICS thread >.>
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Yup, totally agreed.
Standard users would never understand a full wipe due to repartioning. The other issue is the battery, to small...period. When HTC said "other technical limitations" I'm sure this was one. Sure, XDA got ics onto the HD, congrats, bet we hear noob complaints about battery, lag, etc.
The one thing they ****could**** do is the same they did for us, a stripped down ics ROM with "reduced functionality" released on HTC dev. That should placate the power users, the rest.....will not even notice.
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If HTC gives in, then yes there will probably a developer edition of ICS for DHD. But how many DHD users are there now compared to Desire users last year when we were in the same situation? Is their number enough to make HTC reconsider?
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paolo-red1 said:
So now it's possible to have full working ics for desire? I hope porting it will be not too difficult because desire and dhd are similar, they only differ for a HD after desire!
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Desire HD has adreno 205. When we had ports based on GB we still had drivers, now no matter what we won't get them so project butter, hw acceleration and the rest of the drool material will most likely remain in dreams of those who wish to use Desire for next 10-15yrs.
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Standard users would never understand a full wipe due to repartioning.
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^
Furthermore all potential issues that could arise from such procedure, I wouldn't want to be in shoes of the customer support when that happens. One has to know demographic structure behind those petitions and rage most easily explained if we draw a simple analogy to this board - out of 500 people say who frequent this board 50 people use either sense or aosp variant of something made for Desire and 450 use something else and are willing to argue whether it works 70% or 73%. Neither is 100.
I hope HTC got their grip together with making phones with 500 or 768 mb roms and promising software updates for any period of time while they oversaw the rate those updates are going to grow in size.
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erklat said:
Desire HD has adreno 205. When we had ports based on GB we still had drivers, now no matter what we won't get them so project butter, hw acceleration and the rest of the drool material will most likely remain in dreams of those who wish to use Desire for next 10-15yrs.
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Furthermore all potential issues that could arise from such procedure, I wouldn't want to be in shoes of the customer support when that happens. One has to know demographic structure behind those petitions and rage most easily explained if we draw a simple analogy to this board - out of 500 people say who frequent this board 50 people use either sense or aosp variant of something made for Desire and 450 use something else and are willing to argue whether it works 70% or 73%. Neither is 100.
I hope HTC got their grip together with making phones with 500 or 768 mb roms and promising software updates for any period of time while they oversaw the rate those updates are going to grow in size.
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Agreed again,
HTC always designs things a bit close for confort, or to put it in a pocketnow writers words "they always design their phones with at least one fatal flaw.".
I believe things are getting better though, for example the sensation had almost 2gb reserved for the various system partions, the entire one series has close to 4gb (couldn't be bothered to look up the actual partions...irrevelvant anyways). Some noobs on the One V forum were complaining about the partion sizes as close to 2gb are literally unused at this time. To me, that means room for future updates (though with only 512mb of ram.....how good? Hence the one tragic flaw arguement).
I messed with sense 2.1, 3.0, 2.1 / 3.0 hybrids, 3.5, etc but since May I am back to gb with sense 1.9. The only combo that really works on our desires.
I wish the current devs well, new things are always fun, but if you want a truelly functioning daily driver running the best our hardware is capable of, that is gingerbread with old sense, or aosp........period.
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jmitr said:
I messed with sense 2.1, 3.0, 2.1 / 3.0 hybrids, 3.5, etc but since May I am back to gb with sense 1.9. The only combo that really works on our desires.
I wish the current devs well, new things are always fun, but if you want a truelly functioning daily driver running the best our hardware is capable of, that is gingerbread with old sense, or aosp........period.
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Hear hear, opinion I always advocated. I doubt you'd have much success getting it to the puny minds in an ics related hysteria these days.
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erklat said:
Desire HD has adreno 205. When we had ports based on GB we still had drivers, now no matter what we won't get them so project butter, hw acceleration and the rest of the drool material will most likely remain in dreams of those who wish to use Desire for next 10-15yrs.
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Erklat you delude me, I was sarcastic
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Ha ha...I think HTC just copied the message from the announcement regarding the Desire and pasted it into the DHD one.

paolo-red1 said:
Erklat you delude me, I was sarcastic
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I have repented and am back on the path of righteousness.
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erklat said:
I have repented and am back on the path of righteousness.
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...as long as I have enough sarcastic and ironic toughts about funny people here on forum...
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