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[Q] Inc to Inc 2??

I have the original incredible and I love it, but I want a bigger screen. I found the inc 2 for $50... Is it worth it or just wait til something better comes out? I had the Thunderbolt and HATED it. Way too many problems.

Although I loved my original Inc, I switched to the Inc2; I am very happy I made the switch. I love the larger screen, the phone is larger but thinner and the battery life is much better (stock battery). I'll not switch phones again until at least the end of this contract cycle.

DEF worth it, I MISS root VERY much, but even without root the phone is spectacular, and hopefully root will come soon, I suggest you do what I did, get the inc2, but keep your inc1 to have fun with root. Love it!, once we get root on inc2(IF that is), inc1 will be my MP3 player full time

i loved my inc1, but i'm not as crazy about my inc2. mostly because i'm addicted to root.. (actually roms)
i want to get gingerbread and maybe a little miui on here, but i guess as a phone its a good upgrade from the inc1. the screen is definitely nice

I would say there are probably better options out now as well as coming soon. With me, going from the Eris to the I2 was a massive upgrade and worth the cost at the time. However, spend a little more and you can pick up a Charge, which has been rooted already, or LG Revolution, which is supposedly the first LTE device with a useful battery life. I'd say make sure you look at what's available before jumping into a device that is not going to receive much manufacturer nor carrier support, and may be a while yet with root.
I've very happy with my I2 despite not yet having root. It's completely changed my perspective of Android devices as my Eris was becoming frustrating to use, even while using CM7. I look forward to getting back to CM on my I2.

bionic would be mu choice it global weren't important. I had an inc1 and miss it dearly but the inc2 is an outstanding phone if you can do without root. they really got some things right here.

Well I decided to get it and I love it now that I was able to root
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Worth it, if I can root the *****. I have been yearning for a stock sense ROM for my Incredible, none have been able to fill that stock void except for the Incredible 2. Needs a few tweaks but is great overall, sans the ****ing uninstallable bloat.

So you haven't rooted yet?
Sent from my Incredible 2 using XDA App

New Incredible 2 User coming from Fascinate!

Just wondering what you guys think are some of the benefits aside from Development, HTC Sense, Rooting-Unrooting, Battery life!
Pretty much the pros & cons you've come to love or hate about your DInc2!
Thanks

thekylebrody said:
Just wondering what you guys think are some of the benefits aside from Development, HTC Sense, Rooting-Unrooting, Battery life!
Pretty much the pros & cons you've come to love or hate about your DInc2!
Thanks
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pros: awesome battery life, form factor, *good* screen, sense (i like it at least), world phone, strong signal/data speeds, performance even stock is amazing for a single core phone, flashing things from one recovery and not having to odin xxx recovery to use xyz rom etc , all 3 major aosp roms available
cons: the gb root situation, screen is a step down from samoled (although not as awful as u would be lead to believe, smaller development community (but growing)

This phone is leaps and bounds better than the Fassy, for me at least.
Pros: Nearly everything about this is better than the Fassy. Except the screen of course. (That has blacker blacks than the blacks on my black coloured phone.)
Cons: The root is non-existent for OTA Gingerbread. And the Fassy was 10x smoother. But we'll see after I get root.
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I came from the D1 running liquid gingerbread and oc'ed to 1Ghz. That was my favorite phone ever then my screen went out.
Pros: I like the larger screen size, it's bigger but not too big. The battery life is amazing. I do seem to have better signal and faster UL and DL speeds.
Cons: the sound isn't as loud as my D1. Not a fan of the SRS WOWHD as the only time I listen to music is in my vehicle and I don't need the SRS WOWHD. In call volume isn't as good either. At first I thought my hearing was getting worse than what it already is bit after some research others feel the volume is lower as well. And of course the GB issue. I can't wait to get s-off but right now I'm on a tight budget as I will be moving soon and my job may or may not be paying for the move so no xtc clip for this guy for about 2-3 months.
Overall though this phone is awesome. I don't think it will ever fully replace my D1 but it already comes close so we'll see.
Sent from my DINC2 in Yuma, AZ

What is the Situation with GB Root?
Can S-Off, Root, CWM only be achieved in FroYo??
Cause I'm pretty certain the Dinc2 I receive Tuesday will more than likely have GB..
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I came from D1, then Inc1, X, fascinate, and now shot down for Charge and ready to Join the Dinc2 Community!
D1 Rooting was pie!
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thekylebrody said:
What is the Situation with GB Root?
Can S-Off, Root, CWM only be achieved in FroYo??
Cause I'm pretty certain the Dinc2 I receive Tuesday will more than likely have GB..
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Correct, there is no way to S-off the GB OTA yet. I just picked up the DI2 from Costco yesterday and luckily it still had froyo on it. Was rooted and rom'ed in 40 minutes.

I came from a fassy and so far I really like it. I actually really like the screen not missing the fassy screen and the thing is smooth.
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Honestly the Inc2 without root is still an amazing phone. Fantastic battery life, pretty fast. I feel it has more stock features than the Fascinate and I would definitely choose the Incredible2 over it. I'm sure they will find a way to root the Inc 2 GB soon.

Another fortunate recipient of a DINC2 from the Fassy fiasco.
I was rooted and rocking UKB2.1 on the Fassy, aside from the bloatware, I prefer the stock DIN2!
What is s-off? I understand it is required for root, but what the hell does it mean? Also, what is the xtc-clip?
Thanks! Looking forward to some DINC2 dev!

Darkpsych0 said:
Honestly the Inc2 without root is still an amazing phone. Fantastic battery life, pretty fast. I feel it has more stock features than the Fascinate and I would definitely choose the Incredible2 over it. I'm sure they will find a way to root the Inc 2 GB soon.
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Well it sucks that as soon as I'm leaving the Fascinate due to call sms gps & data issue's CM7 Nightlies become available for it. And the rooting aspect was cake with superoneclick and odin flashing.
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It was a hassle trying to find a reliable radio for the Fascinate,having to turn voodoo on/off, getting the gps to work, etc. I found myself having to tinker the hell out of the device to get it to work properly. The inc2 is great out of box. I agree with what nitsuj said about the device.

I'm hurt stevl! No agreeing with me Q.Q lol
Sent from my Droid Incredible 2

Darkpsych0 said:
I'm hurt stevl! No agreeing with me Q.Q lol
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Lol I agree with you too
sent from my inc2

[Q] Have any of you guys made it through the rooting process yet!? JW
I know ill love it stock like I did Inc1, but I need CM7 in my life!
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I haven't rooted. There is no root for Gingerbread yet. I like the phone stock anyways. I think there is a signal issue with CM7 and Miui on Inc2. I could be wrong though, but thought I read that somewhere.

thekylebrody said:
[Q] Have any of you guys made it through the rooting process yet!? JW
I know ill love it stock like I did Inc1, but I need CM7 in my life!
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Most of the Droid Inc2s now are coming out with Gingerbread preloaded and there isn't a root out unless you use a XTC clip for it. IF by chance you get it preloaded with Froyo then you're good to go.

We picked up a DI2 from Costco for $30 this last Saturday and it still had froyo on it. Was rooted and rom'ed in 40 min. Easy peasy

Just out of curiosity... I'm coming from Fascinate also. This will be the first time I've gotten a new smart phone. What is the best way to backup my apps+data and move them to the DINC2 when I get it. Will TiBu work? Is there a more simple solution. I'm really just wanting to port over my Angry Birds progress and my Memo Pad app (not the stock sammy one) that has some important information on it. What method did you guys use if any?

TiBu only works if you have root, so if you get a DI2 with GB on it TiBu will not work for you. I know there are apps on the market that will save your angry birds progress. Not sure about your other app, it may say your notes to your sdcard.

[Q] Inc1, inc2 questions.

I was thinking about getting an inc2, upgrading from my inc, and I was wondering if it'd be worth it, does anybody have generally a lot of experience with the inc1, and gotten the inc2, and liked it better? Is the hardware well, better? What about amount of roms, and other software things of that sort; is there a wider variety available for it, than there is for the original inc? Another question, since the Incredible 2 and Incredible S are almost basically the same phone, would roms for the inc S work on the inc2, or would they just not be compatible? Thanks, whoever might answer these.

I never had the original but i have had quite a few androids (aria, captivate,inspire, thunderbolt, and even an evo3d for a short time) i can honestly say the dinc2 is the most rock solid phone out of all of them. Its definitely underrated i love it. But no unfortunately inc s roms are not compatible

oxlong27 said:
I never had the original but i have had quite a few androids (aria, captivate,inspire, thunderbolt, and even an evo3d for a short time) i can honestly say the dinc2 is the most rock solid phone out of all of them. Its definitely underrated i love it. But no unfortunately inc s roms are not compatible
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I own both of them. it's worth it. It's an outstanding phone.

Alright, thanks for the responses guys! Hopefully I'll be joining the inc2 community here in a few weeks, though it's gonna be sort of hard to leave the original inc after many months being a flash addict with it...

No worries we got plenty of good stuff to flash and our development is still pretty young. I think u chose the right phone, the thunderbolt got all the hype but i had one and absolutely hated it. Buggy ass phone with abysmal battery life, at least mine was
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Just hope you don't get one with 2.3.4.
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Just hope you don't get one with 2.3.4.
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Me too, I really don't want to have to get a clip just to be able to root it. If I do, hopefully by the time I get one, there'll be a way to root it.

I had the Eris, then the Inc1, and now Inc2, Love it. highly suggest it.

may I ask, why not 2.3.4. I will get an Incredible 2 very soon but not sure about which version it has.
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Just hope you don't get one with 2.3.4.
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They don't have S-OFF for 2.3.4 yet. I guess it just depends were you purchase it. I purchased mine on amazon wireless and it came with froyo.

I had the original Inc 1 and now have the Inc2. Underrated is the best way to describe the Inc2.
It's everything that I wanted my Inc1 to be: faster and better battery life.
I was lucky to snag one off ebay that had Android 2.3 on it, and on first boot I made sure I rejected the OTA. Then I rooted as soon as I could.
I think the Inc2 is the best Verizon phone out right now, and here's why:
1. Form factor - at 4.0" screen is big, but not too big. All high end verizon phones are too big, imo, at 4.3"
2. It's fast - sure, on paper, it's rated at the same speed of 1Ghz as the Inc1, but the the CPU is made with the 45nm process instead of the 65nm of Inc1, which means it's faster and more power efficient. Also the Increase in RAM to 768 helps too. When rooted and overclocked (up to 1.9Ghz), it can be as fast as a duo core phone, or faster in some cases. I think it's faster than a Droid3 (duo core), the Inc2 has more ram than the Droid3, that seems to help.
3. It's still 3G - imo, 3G is fast enough, I don't need 4G draining my battery. I don't know why ppl make such a big deal out of 4G, I think battery life is more important in something that's portable.
4. Good battery life - The Inc2 easily lasts twice as long as my Inc1, even with heavy use. And it gets even better when rooted using an undervolted kernel.
5. Good community support - there are a lot of good custom roms for the Inc2. I've tried 4 already and liked them all. And there are enough ppl using the Inc2 that you can find a solution to most of your issues with a quick search.
I don't want a giant phone that's too big for my hands, and doesn't last a day on battery, and is supposedly better than the Inc2.

Great dev support
Sent from my Incredible 2 using XDA App

armchairbear said:
I had the original Inc 1 and now have the Inc2. Underrated is the best way to describe the Inc2.
It's everything that I wanted my Inc1 to be: faster and better battery life.
I was lucky to snag one off ebay that had Android 2.3 on it, and on first boot I made sure I rejected the OTA. Then I rooted as soon as I could.
I think the Inc2 is the best Verizon phone out right now, and here's why:
1. Form factor - at 4.0" screen is big, but not too big. All high end verizon phones are too big, imo, at 4.3"
2. It's fast - sure, on paper, it's rated at the same speed of 1Ghz as the Inc1, but the the CPU is made with the 45nm process instead of the 65nm of Inc1, which means it's faster and more power efficient. Also the Increase in RAM to 768 helps too. When rooted and overclocked (up to 1.9Ghz), it can be as fast as a duo core phone, or faster in some cases. I think it's faster than a Droid3 (duo core), the Inc2 has more ram than the Droid3, that seems to help.
3. It's still 3G - imo, 3G is fast enough, I don't need 4G draining my battery. I don't know why ppl make such a big deal out of 4G, I think battery life is more important in something that's portable.
4. Good battery life - The Inc2 easily lasts twice as long as my Inc1, even with heavy use. And it gets even better when rooted using an undervolted kernel.
5. Good community support - there are a lot of good custom roms for the Inc2. I've tried 4 already and liked them all. And there are enough ppl using the Inc2 that you can find a solution to most of your issues with a quick search.
I don't want a giant phone that's too big for my hands, and doesn't last a day on battery, and is supposedly better than the Inc2.
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Awesome man , I'm pretty much completely sure this'll be my next phone, and yeah, I don't see why 4G is so important. I don't think I'll dabble in phones like that until that actually becomes more battery efficient. I was thinking about the Thunderbolt, but realized it's horrible battery life, and an extended battery would be too much bulk. Plus, a 4.3in screen at only WVGA starts making it look a little pixelated(sp?). I'd love the Sensation though, if only it'd work on Verizon...But oh well, the inc2 sounds amazing, definitely gonna get it, here in the next month or so.

Love my Incredible2
My Eris 2 yr contract was expiring and I found a brand new Inc 2 on CL for $135. I ended up feeling sorry for the poor guy so I tossed in my old rooted GSB Eris so he would have a phone.
Bummer was, it had just installed 2.3.4... hopefully someone will come up with a fix for that real soon. G3 is plenty fast and the battery easily lasts all day. With moderate use it still has 50-60% at bedtime. Size is perfect, takes great pictures, it's very smooth and fast and so far absolutely trouble free. I just picked up another one for my wife and she can't believe the difference between it and her Eris. We are planning on going with NO contract for a while assuming I can keep my unlimited data plan. Highly recommended!

ccgabe said:
My Eris 2 yr contract was expiring and I found a brand new Inc 2 on CL for $135. I ended up feeling sorry for the poor guy so I tossed in my old rooted GSB Eris so he would have a phone.
Bummer was, it had just installed 2.3.4... hopefully someone will come up with a fix for that real soon. G3 is plenty fast and the battery easily lasts all day. With moderate use it still has 50-60% at bedtime. Size is perfect, takes great pictures, it's very smooth and fast and so far absolutely trouble free. I just picked up another one for my wife and she can't believe the difference between it and her Eris. We are planning on going with NO contract for a while assuming I can keep my unlimited data plan. Highly recommended!
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There is that method with adb, but I mean, you have to know how to use it...I'm still learning that. And that's what I'm doing, not going with the contract, I'm gonna keep my unlimited plan as long as I can. Thanks for the response though

armchairbear said:
I had the original Inc 1 and now have the Inc2. Underrated is the best way to describe the Inc2.
It's everything that I wanted my Inc1 to be: faster and better battery life.
I was lucky to snag one off ebay that had Android 2.3 on it, and on first boot I made sure I rejected the OTA. Then I rooted as soon as I could.
I think the Inc2 is the best Verizon phone out right now, and here's why:
1. Form factor - at 4.0" screen is big, but not too big. All high end verizon phones are too big, imo, at 4.3"
2. It's fast - sure, on paper, it's rated at the same speed of 1Ghz as the Inc1, but the the CPU is made with the 45nm process instead of the 65nm of Inc1, which means it's faster and more power efficient. Also the Increase in RAM to 768 helps too. When rooted and overclocked (up to 1.9Ghz), it can be as fast as a duo core phone, or faster in some cases. I think it's faster than a Droid3 (duo core), the Inc2 has more ram than the Droid3, that seems to help.
3. It's still 3G - imo, 3G is fast enough, I don't need 4G draining my battery. I don't know why ppl make such a big deal out of 4G, I think battery life is more important in something that's portable.
4. Good battery life - The Inc2 easily lasts twice as long as my Inc1, even with heavy use. And it gets even better when rooted using an undervolted kernel.
5. Good community support - there are a lot of good custom roms for the Inc2. I've tried 4 already and liked them all. And there are enough ppl using the Inc2 that you can find a solution to most of your issues with a quick search.
I don't want a giant phone that's too big for my hands, and doesn't last a day on battery, and is supposedly better than the Inc2.
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Couldn't agree more I upgraded from the first Inc and I'm in love. This is the best phone I've ever had. Love the size and battery life most.
Sent from my Incredible 2 using XDA App

i have also used several phones and I have to say the incredible2 has been amazing since i got it, I would recommend it to anybody in the market for an awesome phone

username235 said:
I was thinking about getting an inc2, upgrading from my inc, and I was wondering if it'd be worth it, does anybody have generally a lot of experience with the inc1, and gotten the inc2, and liked it better? Is the hardware well, better? What about amount of roms, and other software things of that sort; is there a wider variety available for it, than there is for the original inc? Another question, since the Incredible 2 and Incredible S are almost basically the same phone, would roms for the inc S work on the inc2, or would they just not be compatible? Thanks, whoever might answer these.
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I never had the original but i have had quite a few androids (aria, captivate,inspire, thunderbolt, and even an evo3d for a short time) i can honestly say the dinc2 is the most rock solid phone out of all of them. Its definitely underrated i love it. But no unfortunately inc s roms are not compatible
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this is for educational and seeking knowledge Purposes only .
Incredible S Roms Could be installed on Incredible 2 , working 100% if you know how . But you should know that developers ( sense 3.5 ) don't usually make their roms Global as i researched . what is available now For incedible 2 are CDMA only sense3.5 roms ( No GSM Support !!! ) , for Incredible S of course it would be GSM only sense 3.5 Roms . if you live in a country that uses GSM networks only , Incredible S is a Better Choice because as i noticed is little development for GSM Support for incredible 2 , you will have to stick with what is issued by Verizon , and of course they would not issue Sense 3.5 .
Now to install Incredible S rom on Incredible 2 ( you must be S-OFF and Rooted ) :
1- you must have similar compatible roms for Incredibles S and Incredible 2
2- replace the Boot.img of the incredible s rom with the same one from the incredible 2 rom inside winrar window ( Don't extract then zip again , just drag and drop )
3- install the rom from recovery as normal , it will Boot OK
4 if you have error starting WiFi ,then flash this Kernel ( inc2_2.6.35.14#18 ) ,it will solve the Problem , thanks to EhabFG ,
the two matching Roms are
EhabFG Android 2.3.5 Runnymed V1.3|EXT4|Full Arabic sense 3.5 ( google it) - Incredible S
-MikRoms-Incredible 2 HD v2.1 [sense 3.5 GB 2.3.5] ( google it ?) - Incredible 2
Please not that Same procedure was tried for the updates issued for those 2 Roms , it did not work ( meaning they are not similar anymore ) although they use the same New Base 1.02.401.1 ????
Some developer suggests the following
- Replace Boot.img
- Replace Kernel (Module Folder ) inside lib
- Replace Sevice.jar in framework folder
hope that would answer your Questions

Considering a switch from the GNexus

Heya guys,
I've got the ever present upgrade itch that everyone here must know about......
I'm really looking into a good phone camera that has decent battery life as well since I can't always bring me DSLR with me around all the time.
How development and everything for the One X? Battery life? I'm looking specifically at the international version.
Thanks

Development is great. Some solid roms for this device within the first month. Can't imagine what it will be like in half a year or when there's an s-off exploit found. Obviously the phone has some great attraction for some of the features it carries and the design.
On ARHD rom right now I get about 18-22 hours of battery life moderate usage, light usage a couple of days, and heavy usage about 10 hours. I'm very satisfied with this phone. Some other people can drop there comments and let you know; also, there's an official reviews thread you should probably check out.
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UnlockedNand said:
Development is great. Some solid roms for this device within the first month. Can't imagine what it will be like in half a year or when there's an s-off exploit found. Obviously the phone has some great attraction for some of the features it carries and the design.
On ARHD rom right now I get about 18-22 hours of battery life moderate usage, light usage a couple of days, and heavy usage about 10 hours. I'm very satisfied with this phone. Some other people can drop there comments and let you know; also, there's an official reviews thread you should probably check out.
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whats the screen time like when you use it heavily (as according to above 10hrs phone on but how long for screen?)
hmmm
any major bugs? I'd like to try sense out as the only HTC phone that I've used was my mum's Desire Z that I automatically flashed CM7 on back when she had it.
I've "heard" that there are some screen flickering issues and launcher reloading.....
any comments would be greatly appreciated

I've had my One X for 1.5 weeks now and zero problems whatsoever I get about 12-13hrs from the battery with 3-4h screentime

droid_does said:
Heya guys,
I've got the ever present upgrade itch that everyone here must know about......
I'm really looking into a good phone camera that has decent battery life as well since I can't always bring me DSLR with me around all the time.
How development and everything for the One X? Battery life? I'm looking specifically at the international version.
Thanks
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Here's some info on battery life. It's better than the GN. But the GN has the option of extended and replacable batteries which the One X doesn't.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25725630&postcount=25
As for the camera, I don't think it's finished yet. There's been discussion about noise and compression. Some of the pics I've taken in iffy light haven't been that great. The h/w's there I think the s/w needs some tweaking. If you could live with the camera on the GN the One X will be a step up.

BarryH_GEG said:
Here's some info on battery life. It's better than the GN. But the GN has the option of extended and replacable batteries which the One X doesn't.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25725630&postcount=25
As for the camera, I don't think it's finished yet. There's been discussion about noise and compression. Some of the pics I've taken in iffy light haven't been that great. The h/w's there I think the s/w needs some tweaking. If you could live with the camera on the GN the One X will be a step up.
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Ahhh thanks. But i guess i could circumnavigate the integrated battery by having an external portable battery pack....hmmmm
Tough choice. I'll wait for some more comments and opinions first
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

droid_does said:
Ahhh thanks. But i guess i could circumnavigate the integrated battery by having an external portable battery pack....hmmmm
Tough choice. I'll wait for some more comments and opinions first
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
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Watch reviews and videos about the s3 vs One x phones..then make your decision. I would say One X. Good phone solid great specs and if you are a gamer you will be happy with the Tegra 3 chip...Battery life is solid so far no complaints. Development i am sure it will pick up...So its down to you my friend

NoobTerminator said:
Watch reviews and videos about the s3 vs One x phones..then make your decision. I would say One X. Good phone solid great specs and if you are a gamer you will be happy with the Tegra 3 chip...Battery life is solid so far no complaints. Development i am sure it will pick up...So its down to you my friend
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I'm definitely let down by the S3....its seems so similar in many ways to the GNexus that I wouldn't consider it as an "upgrade". I wouldn't hesitate to recommend it to people without smartphones though.
the HTCOX screams of something desirable to me.......still hesitant though right now
keep those comments flowing in please

droid_does said:
whats the screen time like when you use it heavily (as according to above 10hrs phone on but how long for screen?)
hmmm
any major bugs? I'd like to try sense out as the only HTC phone that I've used was my mum's Desire Z that I automatically flashed CM7 on back when she had it.
I've "heard" that there are some screen flickering issues and launcher reloading.....
any comments would be greatly appreciated
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The 10 hours probably around 5-6 hours of continuous screen display running videos, games, and other tasks. No sense issues at all except for it uses a lot more battery than pure ics. The screen flickering is unconfirmed as to what is the underlying issue (software or hardware) related. HTC is looking into the screen flickering right now, and launcher reloading I've never had.

I'd say wait 1 month.
QC issues iron over time. S-OFF is not ready as yet. The lack of such 'freedom' will be shocking to a GN user.
Custom ROMs for this device are excellent both in quality and quantity. This is a very popular handset, thus community support is very high.
Battery life is really good. Depending on screen usage you can get 1.5 days usage easy. Heavy usage will obviously reduce that by a lot.

UnlockedNand said:
The 10 hours probably around 5-6 hours of continuous screen display running videos, games, and other tasks. No sense issues at all except for it uses a lot more battery than pure ics. The screen flickering is unconfirmed as to what is the underlying issue (software or hardware) related. HTC is looking into the screen flickering right now, and launcher reloading I've never had.
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junialum said:
I'd say wait 1 month.
QC issues iron over time. S-OFF is not ready as yet. The lack of such 'freedom' will be shocking to a GN user.
Custom ROMs for this device are excellent both in quality and quantity. This is a very popular handset, thus community support is very high.
Battery life is really good. Depending on screen usage you can get 1.5 days usage easy. Heavy usage will obviously reduce that by a lot.
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Thanks guys! If anybody has anything else to add please do so
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

OK so I have a galaxy nexus and got it on launch back in november. I picked up a one x because I really liked the look of it, but so far I can't decide which phone to keep.
The One X is great because it’s lovely to hold, has a fantastic screen and a very decent camera. But the software lets it down – and that’s not some lazy complaint. I’ve owned the phone for two weeks. Whilst Sense 4.0 is a big improvement over previous versions, I still struggle to find any part of it where it’s better than stock ICS, except perhaps the lockscreen which allows multiple targets. But that functionality is common in custom ICS ROMs anyway.
Stock ICS is, I feel, about as good as Android could be at the moment. This makes having to put up with the unnecessary ‘embellishments’ and changes on the One X is frustrating. HTC’s launcher is also considerably laggier than the stock Android 4.0 launcher, and whilst installing Nova launcher helps, I’m not sure why HTC felt the need to use their own anyway.
I must say I totally agree with The Verge’s conclusion on the One X – with stock ICS, it could be the best Android phone ever. Until then… Im just not sure which phone to keep!

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OK so I have a galaxy nexus and got it on launch back in november. I picked up a one x because I really liked the look of it, but so far I can't decide which phone to keep.
The One X is great because it’s lovely to hold, has a fantastic screen and a very decent camera. But the software lets it down – and that’s not some lazy complaint. I’ve owned the phone for two weeks. Whilst Sense 4.0 is a big improvement over previous versions, I still struggle to find any part of it where it’s better than stock ICS, except perhaps the lockscreen which allows multiple targets. But that functionality is common in custom ICS ROMs anyway.
Stock ICS is, I feel, about as good as Android could be at the moment. This makes having to put up with the unnecessary ‘embellishments’ and changes on the One X is frustrating. HTC’s launcher is also considerably laggier than the stock Android 4.0 launcher, and whilst installing Nova launcher helps, I’m not sure why HTC felt the need to use their own anyway.
I must say I totally agree with The Verge’s conclusion on the One X – with stock ICS, it could be the best Android phone ever. Until then… Im just not sure which phone to keep!
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I'm in the same position, I'm really not sure which one to keep either - I suspect I will still be saying the same in two months time though!
HTC should have gone out on a limb and developed a dual boot - let the users decide whether they want to run sense or stock.
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Bumping this up. Thanks for the replies so far
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pnnorth said:
I'm in the same position, I'm really not sure which one to keep either - I suspect I will still be saying the same in two months time though!
HTC should have gone out on a limb and developed a dual boot - let the users decide whether they want to run sense or stock.
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Yeah I've had the phone nearly a month and still can't decide! Argh
Someone's developing a CM9 port over at Modaco and it's getting close to finished (just a few bugs left to squash). So if it's good enough, I might just install it and sell the Nexus.

ref1ux said:
Yeah I've had the phone nearly a month and still can't decide! Argh
Someone's developing a CM9 port over at Modaco and it's getting close to finished (just a few bugs left to squash). So if it's good enough, I might just install it and sell the Nexus.
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thanks
any other comments? battery, camera, screen etc? usability?

I've only used an older version for a few minutes, but on the surface everything works fine. It's mostly just odd bugs they're sorting out now. I'd link the thread, but things are a bit iffy between XDA and the developer at Modaco.
Either way, back on my GNex now and it feels like an old friend. Love this phone.

My opinion Nexus vs One X

My Wife and I have had the Verizon Galaxy Nexus since Winter, I am a big Nexus, fan, having owned all three Nexus phones. But also had a few HTC phones too, over the years. Next to stock vanilla Android UI, I think Sense is the second best, but since JB, I am thinking stock Android is really the only UI to have now.
Anyways, getting sick of Verizon's prices, we want to move to the GSM Unlocked Nexus or "international" One X, my two Brothers have the Nexus from the Play Store running on Straight Talk for $45/month, and they LOVE it, zero issues whatsoever, and that would be well over 150% cheaper than what we pay on Verizon. Plus CDMA radios suck battery faster than GSM in my opinion. Standby time on GSM is better.
Long story short I found a mint condition "International" One X in white, on sale for $325. I picked the one up 10 days ago. Here is my opinion of it running Sense and CM10 based ROM's and comparing it to the Galaxy LTE Nexus.
First off, the white One X is an absolutely beautiful device, very cool looking phone, and high quality, the best looking Android phone ever sold, hands down no question. Makes the Nexus look cheap and poorly designed.
The Good;
- Screen is amazing, super clear and very sharp. Reading text and news websites is so clear and easy on the eyes. At first I thought it looked washed out and dull compared to Super AMOLED from Samsung, but after a few days, I started thinking the Samsung screen sucked now, it looked cartoony in colors, and whites blow on the Nexus, where as the One X, it looks so real and true in color, and super crisp sharp. The One X is the best screen on a smartphone today, better than the iPhone5 screen my Sister owns.
- Design of the phone, just a work of art.
- Size and weight, it is very thin, and lightweight.
- Battery life on Sense ROM's is amazing, 5 hours on screen time, easily 1 day + of heavy use, this Tegra 3 is a beast with a good Sense ROM and the right kernel. Crazy good battery life with the right setup of custom ROM and battery kernel.
- When CM10 ROM's are working well, they are beautiful on the One X, and run super smooth as "butter", and crazy fast, with zero lag whatsoever. CM10 makes the One X feel like a next generation Nexus-Four ( CM10 battery life is mentioned below, in the BAD file )
The Bad;
- No S-Off yet, and doubtful if ever. This is a major bad point to me. Installing ROM's and kernels is a pain in the **** on this phone, frustrating and stupid. Always have to have the phone plugged into the PC, and go into boot loader and flash the boot.img through Command prompt on your PC, then boot into Recovery and do the flashing, but only the ROM, then the kernel must also go through that long process too, after a full reboot. And updating ROM's still need to do it. Basically you can't just flash in recovery and be done, now way, it is a long drawn out process of bull****. And if you don;t have the correct boot.img flashed in Command Prompt, good luck.
- Sense sucks. I know Sense based ROM's have insane good battery life, but there is no JellyBean Sense yet officially, so they still 4.0.4 based, and Sense just looks outdated and like from Gingerbread still. I tried 4 different Sense ROM's all with custom options to make it look like AOSP, and LOL they don't look like AOSP, still has the Sense crap in menus and running behind the scenes. Ever since Google released Android 4.0 ICS, in my opinion, there is no more need need for Sense or Touchwizz, stock vanilla Android is just the best now.
- Custom AOSP ROM's = HOLY SH!T bad battery life. There are some cool CM10 ROM's for the "international" One X, but everyone one of them has bugs here and there, or stuff not working 100% yet. And battery life is a ****ing joke, easily 60% less, compared to Sense based ROM's. I tried 4 different CM10 ROM's with three of the top kernels, and battery just blew chunks. But CM10 does run lightning fast on the One X.
To wrap this up, My Wife and I still need to get one more "Unlocked" phone to use on Straight Talk, and I was all set originally on getting 2 International One X's, but now after 10 days with the HoX, I am for sure going back to a Nexus, and will buy a GSM Nexus off the Play Store. Stock vanilla Android running a Nexus device is the best.
I would definitely stick with the One X easily if they did two things; allowed S-Off for true Recovery flashing. And CM10 ROM's mature and get stable with good battery life. I do think those two might happen, at least CM10 should be much better after a few more weeks or a month, they just started the official Nightly's on the One X last week, so it needs more development time. And S-Off might happen once with One + phone is released with Jellybean, but that's a big maybe.
For now, I will stick with Nexus phone, like I have the last three years.

Zorachus said:
For now, I will stick with Nexus phone, like I have the last three years.
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Good choice. Both on the phone, and going contract free!

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Good choice. Both on the phone, and going contract free!
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If CM10 on the One X was stable and had good battery life, like it does on my Nexus, then for sure I much prefer stock Jellybean on the One X, it is a nicer phone, and is very fast and smooth.
But CM10 on the One X, is a long ways from being solid with battery life, I am sure needs a good month of development time still, and we shall see from there...but the developers working on CM10 ROM's for the HoX are very smart and good guys, they will figure it out sooner than later I am sure, and it will be just as good as Sense based ROM's hopefully.
Now if the Nexus 5 rumors are true, which says it will be a HTC One X+ type of phone, I would welcome that BIG TIME, it is a very nice phone, just needs stock vanilla Android made specifically for it, and S-Off.

Nexus is about software not hardware at most what they try to innovate on is display which it the time was top of the line
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Since you're using the HoX GSM (Int'l version) I thought I'd ask here - my brother has it and every so often the signal drops out - he's on stock firmware no root etc. Signals are fine for the same network, in the same place, on my GNex though. It's the second HoX my bro is using after we exchanged the first thinking it was faulty but the same signal inconsistency shows up on the new one as well. I've read that there might be some issues with the HoX signals (radios?), Have U noticed anything of the sort? He's thinking of switching to the SGS3 or GNex because of this prob. (Physically, gotta agree with you, It's a beautiful piece of hardware, wonderful to hold and use)
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This was the heart of the matter for me with my s3 before I changed it for a nexus. The dev team working on the port of cm10 are excellent but due to samsungs source issues, they have not been able to get it bug free yet.
After sticking with it for a while I decided it would never be as good as Jb on the nexus. That's why I changed

Am I the only one that thinks the One X is more on the fugly side of the fence?

Fwiw a custom kernel such as Franco on the Gnex will let you tweak the colors and make the whites truly white again. While I agree the onex has an amazing screen, and my greyish-blue tinted screen used to bother me, after flashing Franco kernel, and using some settings found in various xda threads, my display finally looks much better. Whites look white, and it's not as cartoony as you put it.
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djexacto said:
Fwiw a custom kernel such as Franco on the Gnex will let you tweak the colors and make the whites truly white again. While I agree the onex has an amazing screen, and my greyish-blue tinted screen used to bother me, after flashing Franco kernel, and using some settings found in various xda threads, my display finally looks much better. Whites look white, and it's not as cartoony as you put it.
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Yea the franco color tweaks are amazing. :good:

Guiding.God said:
Since you're using the HoX GSM (Int'l version) I thought I'd ask here - my brother has it and every so often the signal drops out - he's on stock firmware no root etc. Signals are fine for the same network, in the same place, on my GNex though. It's the second HoX my bro is using after we exchanged the first thinking it was faulty but the same signal inconsistency shows up on the new one as well. I've read that there might be some issues with the HoX signals (radios?), Have U noticed anything of the sort? He's thinking of switching to the SGS3 or GNex because of this prob. (Physically, gotta agree with you, It's a beautiful piece of hardware, wonderful to hold and use)
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Had the same problem with htc one s, could be an HTC made issue. But, either way if you have the problem as my wife and I both had, it is a horrible experience.
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speedyink said:
Am I the only one that thinks the One X is more on the fugly side of the fence?
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a agree with you

If LCD could have the blacks of amoled I would consider it. I just can't stand the grey/blue black on LCD's specially from angles.
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@ the OP.
My other phone is a tmo branded SGS2 which came with touchwiz. There are a bunch of aosp roms for it, however the battery life sucks in all of them.

jordanishere said:
@ the OP.
My other phone is a tmo branded SGS2 which came with touchwiz. There are a bunch of aosp roms for it, however the battery life sucks in all of them.
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Get a RAZR if you want android and battery life
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Over the weekend I installed the latest CM10 for the One X, and man has it improved greatly. Very stable now, with much better battery life. The standby time on the One X is amazing on battery life. And on screen time, I can go 4 hours screen time, unplugged a full day before battery drains, where as my Verizon Nexus is lucky to get 2.5 hours screen time, and dead in 12 - 14 hours. I know the GSM Nexus is substantially better on battery, it seems the Verizon Nexus just plain sucks. And I never use 4G/LTE, and battery life still sucks. I have installed different ROM's, different kernels, no sync, no GPS, no 4G, and using it daily I just can't get long battery life.

How's WiFi and data connectivity on one x as stock? I hear people are having problems with that.
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IMHO HTC One series are well made. Where as Samsung seems to like producing plastic fantastic phones, the HTC Ones are metal and have premium grade feel to it.
I agree Sense and Touchwiz... along with whatever mfg over-lays should go the way of the dinosaur. Let Android be Android.

Haven't had the chance to really check out any of the new One series phones, but I loved the build quality of my Evo. Felt solid and well constructed. It's the only thing about my Nexus that I might call a gripe. Just feels a little under built. With some extra care I don't think it will be a problem in the long term, but it does make me a bit nervous. We've all had that klutzy moment!
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Got a SH26W One X. Wifi is somehow better than the 2 previous HOX batches I got. But it's still that I sometimes get no connection for no reason.
But HOX had some serius production faults, e.g. bad Wifi antenna connection, screen ripple, screen flex and so on... Gotta say that my GNEX's production quality is much better than my HOX's... But HOX has lotta more power, 4 sure
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As someone previously said, the Nexus line is not for top of the line hardware. Newer phones such as the HTC One X and Galaxy SIII are going to obviously win out in hardware and probably build quality, but when the next version of Android comes out I can tell you who will have it first, and that is all that matters to me. Especially since the hardware on both of those phones will be outdated in a couple months.