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Droid X or DInc??

My wife's og Droid took a poop so I bought an Incredible which I'll have in a day or 2. I love my X but am thinking about swapping her to have something new (to me) to play with until I upgrade this summer. Plus the X is crippled with its locked bootloader. Has anyone here had both and prefer one over the other? Decisions decisions....
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cvbcbcmv said:
I hate the Droid x. I hate Motorola phones. Whenever I see one I feel like punching the owner and smashing it. I don't know, just me. I love my dinc.
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Sooo... I should swap? Lol. Thanks. Any rom and theme suggestions?
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I have both (work DX and personal DInc). There are a couple of ROM for the DX but alot of different options for the DInc.
If you want to get addicted, swap...
ZooDad

I had a Droid 2, bought the incredible and never looked back. So much better..
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Droid x is nice if you like big screens and motoblur. But if you want to root and flash new roms the incredible is the way to go. Its also more pocketable.

Droid x by a mile. The Droid x is a better built phone, it has (in my opinion) a more capable processor, has a bigger screen (that's kind of a personal preference), HDMI out, many times better battery life, offical gingerbread, and the Motoblur is a) not as bad as everyone says (sense is so much worse and uses resources) and b) can be practically disabled through a custom rom.
However, I think that you shouldn't get either device if you can avoid it, go for a newer device, both are almost a year old now.
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chbennett said:
Droid x by a mile. The Droid x is a better built phone, it has (in my opinion) a more capable processor, has a bigger screen (that's kind of a personal preference), HDMI out, many times better battery life, offical gingerbread, and the Motoblur is a) not as bad as everyone says (sense is so much worse and uses resources) and b) can be practically disabled through a custom rom.
However, I think that you shouldn't get either device if you can avoid it, go for a newer device, both are almost a year old now.
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I'm on Apex so I pretty much have zero blur. The purchase of the Inc is to immediately replace her d1 with a better (and working) phone. Whichever I do (either keep my X or give it to her and take the Inc), it will shortly be replaced by the next unlocked bootloader - 4g - front facing camera - dual core Android phone.
Thanks for the opinions ppl!
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Well I'm going to say the Inc, custom kernels can all but eliminate the battery life problem, and I find the Droid X's screen just too big. AMOLED or SLCD will kick the crap out of the X's screen in quality any day too. ROM selection on the Inc blows the X out of the water and chokes it to death, and the Inc ROM dev community will, at this rate, go much longer than the X's. Sense is much better than any kind of Blur, and if you don't want either, the Inc has the option of good, clean CM7, as well as OMGB/OMFGB for a more stock experience than even CM7. When I bought the Inc, I bought it from a hardware and software perspective; Sense beats Blur, better screen/screen size on the Inc, didn't even think about custom ROMs at that point. I'd still heartily recommend the Droid Incredible to anyone, even at this point in its lifespan.

do you have gingerbread on the x yet?

My first android phone was an X. I rooted it and installed custom roms and loved it. Then one day I bought an incredible on a whim, and I liked it SO much better. IMO, HTC makes way better phones than motorola. The inc has an unlocked bootloader, which is great for trying out different radios and kernels. I think the incredible's size is very nice, and the screen IS a lot prettier (SCLD or AMOLED are nicer). Lastly, there is a lot more ROM development and options. Not to mention the incredible has cyanogenmod, which is more or less considered the best AOSP ROM out there.
The only kicker is going to be the battery life. Even if you install a good ROM you probably won't be able to make it through the whole day if you use it a decent amount. The extended batteries are getting cheaper on Amazon though, since the phone is nearing it's end of life.
Hope that helped! I would totally go for the swap. You can always swap back if you hate it! (And have a nice wife. )

mirrin said:
do you have gingerbread on the x yet?
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Yep, I'm on Apex 2.0 beta.
DrPepperLives23 said:
My first android phone was an X. I rooted it and installed custom roms and loved it. Then one day I bought an incredible on a whim, and I liked it SO much better. IMO, HTC makes way better phones than motorola. The inc has an unlocked bootloader, which is great for trying out different radios and kernels. I think the incredible's size is very nice, and the screen IS a lot prettier (SCLD or AMOLED are nicer). Lastly, there is a lot more ROM development and options. Not to mention the incredible has cyanogenmod, which is more or less considered the best AOSP ROM out there.
The only kicker is going to be the battery life. Even if you install a good ROM you probably won't be able to make it through the whole day if you use it a decent amount. The extended batteries are getting cheaper on Amazon though, since the phone is nearing it's end of life.
Hope that helped! I would totally go for the swap. You can always swap back if you hate it! (And have a nice wife. )
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You make excellent l points, sir, thanks!
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chbennett said:
Droid x by a mile. The Droid x is a better built phone, it has (in my opinion) a more capable processor, has a bigger screen (that's kind of a personal preference), HDMI out, many times better battery life, offical gingerbread, and the Motoblur is a) not as bad as everyone says (sense is so much worse and uses resources) and b) can be practically disabled through a custom rom.
However, I think that you shouldn't get either device if you can avoid it, go for a newer device, both are almost a year old now.
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Lets get cracking on this one.
The processor, the TI OMAP vs the Qualcomm Snapdragon, both clocked at 1 GHz give little to no real difference in performance minus a couple 100 points in benchmarks.
The Incredible still has TV out, HDMI is nice and all, but I wouldn't consider it a deal breaker.
Gingerbread is more then accessible through Cyanogenmod, and if not the OTA should be out soon enough if you dig Sense. Plus the tons of other ROMs we have avalible at our disposal. Plus all of the custom kernals that allow overclocking, underclocking, overvolting, undervolting, SBC, HAVS/Smartass, ect.
I love the screen size on the X, but the actual screen sharpness and brightness is pretty lacking vs our AMOLED or SLCD screens side by side. This is MY take on it, and like others have posted, function over form. Also, just wait for something new to come out, or at least get an X2.

DINC FTW.
Slap some Virtuous on that puppy with the HeyItsLou Kernal and you're set. BEEYAH!

So I got the inc and I'm very disappointed. I'm trying to root using unrevoked and after the first reboot when it tries to "run root" the phone reboots itself before it's finished, causing an error. Now the phone keeps rebooting shortly after the boot animation. I can unlock the screen and before it's finished loading it'll reboot.
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Stock Android 2.2
Unrevoked 3.2
Correct hboot drivers
Usb debugging is on
Charge only - remember this
Factory Reset does not fix the reboot issue for me.
I've done this for a buddy's inc last year with not a single problem as well as an evo so I'm familiar with unrevoked and htc devices.
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EDIT: I'm going to make this into a thread since there are probably some brilliant dinc people who aren't frequenting this thread...

zwade01 said:
I'm on Apex so I pretty much have zero blur. The purchase of the Inc is to immediately replace her d1 with a better (and working) phone. Whichever I do (either keep my X or give it to her and take the Inc), it will shortly be replaced by the next unlocked bootloader - 4g - front facing camera - dual core Android phone.
Thanks for the opinions ppl!
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I actually had a D1 before I got my INC and was running CM7, as soon as I got the Inc I installed CM7 and never looked back. Where the D1 struggled and even froze on occasion, the Inc jumped hurdled and jumped again. This thing is awesome!

gregsteezy said:
DINC FTW.
Slap some Virtuous on that puppy with the HeyItsLou Kernal and you're set. BEEYAH!
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I ran this combo before CM, worked great!

chbennett said:
...Motoblur is not as bad as everyone says (sense is so much worse and uses resources)...
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He...he didn't...wow, he did.
Put any Motorola device against an equivalent HTC device and watch the Motorola crash and burn. And now HTC will be unlocking all bootloaders. Game over. To the OP, you might have an SLCD device, which I heard causes problems with rooting. Do make a new thread, your problem will be solved in no time.

Keyboards said:
He...he didn't...wow, he did.
Put any Motorola device against an equivalent HTC device and watch the Motorola crash and burn. And now HTC will be unlocking all bootloaders. Game over. To the OP, you might have an SLCD device, which I heard causes problems with rooting. Do make a new thread, your problem will be solved in no time.
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Problem not solved (unless you count returning for a refund solved). I finally got it rooted, cm7'd, and constantly rebooted. Another gb sense rom, constant rebooted. Ruu stock, constant rebooted. I wish the inc I received wasn't faulty. I was looking forward to playing with it until the latest and greatest came out this summer. It wasn't a problem on my end, it did that since I opened it from the package before attempting to even check it out in its stock form.
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I kind of like Blur, but I would say go with the Incredible. Just for the awesome dev community (just take a look). If you switch, however, you can't blame me for the ORD that will most likely ensue.

I love the active ROM community on the Dinc. I had a Dinc, went to Droid X, and back to Dinc. Love the Dinc.

[Q] Inc to Inc 2??

I have the original incredible and I love it, but I want a bigger screen. I found the inc 2 for $50... Is it worth it or just wait til something better comes out? I had the Thunderbolt and HATED it. Way too many problems.

Although I loved my original Inc, I switched to the Inc2; I am very happy I made the switch. I love the larger screen, the phone is larger but thinner and the battery life is much better (stock battery). I'll not switch phones again until at least the end of this contract cycle.

DEF worth it, I MISS root VERY much, but even without root the phone is spectacular, and hopefully root will come soon, I suggest you do what I did, get the inc2, but keep your inc1 to have fun with root. Love it!, once we get root on inc2(IF that is), inc1 will be my MP3 player full time

i loved my inc1, but i'm not as crazy about my inc2. mostly because i'm addicted to root.. (actually roms)
i want to get gingerbread and maybe a little miui on here, but i guess as a phone its a good upgrade from the inc1. the screen is definitely nice

I would say there are probably better options out now as well as coming soon. With me, going from the Eris to the I2 was a massive upgrade and worth the cost at the time. However, spend a little more and you can pick up a Charge, which has been rooted already, or LG Revolution, which is supposedly the first LTE device with a useful battery life. I'd say make sure you look at what's available before jumping into a device that is not going to receive much manufacturer nor carrier support, and may be a while yet with root.
I've very happy with my I2 despite not yet having root. It's completely changed my perspective of Android devices as my Eris was becoming frustrating to use, even while using CM7. I look forward to getting back to CM on my I2.

bionic would be mu choice it global weren't important. I had an inc1 and miss it dearly but the inc2 is an outstanding phone if you can do without root. they really got some things right here.

Well I decided to get it and I love it now that I was able to root
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Worth it, if I can root the *****. I have been yearning for a stock sense ROM for my Incredible, none have been able to fill that stock void except for the Incredible 2. Needs a few tweaks but is great overall, sans the ****ing uninstallable bloat.

So you haven't rooted yet?
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[Q] Inc1, inc2 questions.

I was thinking about getting an inc2, upgrading from my inc, and I was wondering if it'd be worth it, does anybody have generally a lot of experience with the inc1, and gotten the inc2, and liked it better? Is the hardware well, better? What about amount of roms, and other software things of that sort; is there a wider variety available for it, than there is for the original inc? Another question, since the Incredible 2 and Incredible S are almost basically the same phone, would roms for the inc S work on the inc2, or would they just not be compatible? Thanks, whoever might answer these.

I never had the original but i have had quite a few androids (aria, captivate,inspire, thunderbolt, and even an evo3d for a short time) i can honestly say the dinc2 is the most rock solid phone out of all of them. Its definitely underrated i love it. But no unfortunately inc s roms are not compatible

oxlong27 said:
I never had the original but i have had quite a few androids (aria, captivate,inspire, thunderbolt, and even an evo3d for a short time) i can honestly say the dinc2 is the most rock solid phone out of all of them. Its definitely underrated i love it. But no unfortunately inc s roms are not compatible
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I own both of them. it's worth it. It's an outstanding phone.

Alright, thanks for the responses guys! Hopefully I'll be joining the inc2 community here in a few weeks, though it's gonna be sort of hard to leave the original inc after many months being a flash addict with it...

No worries we got plenty of good stuff to flash and our development is still pretty young. I think u chose the right phone, the thunderbolt got all the hype but i had one and absolutely hated it. Buggy ass phone with abysmal battery life, at least mine was
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Just hope you don't get one with 2.3.4.
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sjpritch25 said:
Just hope you don't get one with 2.3.4.
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Me too, I really don't want to have to get a clip just to be able to root it. If I do, hopefully by the time I get one, there'll be a way to root it.

I had the Eris, then the Inc1, and now Inc2, Love it. highly suggest it.

may I ask, why not 2.3.4. I will get an Incredible 2 very soon but not sure about which version it has.
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Just hope you don't get one with 2.3.4.
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They don't have S-OFF for 2.3.4 yet. I guess it just depends were you purchase it. I purchased mine on amazon wireless and it came with froyo.

I had the original Inc 1 and now have the Inc2. Underrated is the best way to describe the Inc2.
It's everything that I wanted my Inc1 to be: faster and better battery life.
I was lucky to snag one off ebay that had Android 2.3 on it, and on first boot I made sure I rejected the OTA. Then I rooted as soon as I could.
I think the Inc2 is the best Verizon phone out right now, and here's why:
1. Form factor - at 4.0" screen is big, but not too big. All high end verizon phones are too big, imo, at 4.3"
2. It's fast - sure, on paper, it's rated at the same speed of 1Ghz as the Inc1, but the the CPU is made with the 45nm process instead of the 65nm of Inc1, which means it's faster and more power efficient. Also the Increase in RAM to 768 helps too. When rooted and overclocked (up to 1.9Ghz), it can be as fast as a duo core phone, or faster in some cases. I think it's faster than a Droid3 (duo core), the Inc2 has more ram than the Droid3, that seems to help.
3. It's still 3G - imo, 3G is fast enough, I don't need 4G draining my battery. I don't know why ppl make such a big deal out of 4G, I think battery life is more important in something that's portable.
4. Good battery life - The Inc2 easily lasts twice as long as my Inc1, even with heavy use. And it gets even better when rooted using an undervolted kernel.
5. Good community support - there are a lot of good custom roms for the Inc2. I've tried 4 already and liked them all. And there are enough ppl using the Inc2 that you can find a solution to most of your issues with a quick search.
I don't want a giant phone that's too big for my hands, and doesn't last a day on battery, and is supposedly better than the Inc2.

Great dev support
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armchairbear said:
I had the original Inc 1 and now have the Inc2. Underrated is the best way to describe the Inc2.
It's everything that I wanted my Inc1 to be: faster and better battery life.
I was lucky to snag one off ebay that had Android 2.3 on it, and on first boot I made sure I rejected the OTA. Then I rooted as soon as I could.
I think the Inc2 is the best Verizon phone out right now, and here's why:
1. Form factor - at 4.0" screen is big, but not too big. All high end verizon phones are too big, imo, at 4.3"
2. It's fast - sure, on paper, it's rated at the same speed of 1Ghz as the Inc1, but the the CPU is made with the 45nm process instead of the 65nm of Inc1, which means it's faster and more power efficient. Also the Increase in RAM to 768 helps too. When rooted and overclocked (up to 1.9Ghz), it can be as fast as a duo core phone, or faster in some cases. I think it's faster than a Droid3 (duo core), the Inc2 has more ram than the Droid3, that seems to help.
3. It's still 3G - imo, 3G is fast enough, I don't need 4G draining my battery. I don't know why ppl make such a big deal out of 4G, I think battery life is more important in something that's portable.
4. Good battery life - The Inc2 easily lasts twice as long as my Inc1, even with heavy use. And it gets even better when rooted using an undervolted kernel.
5. Good community support - there are a lot of good custom roms for the Inc2. I've tried 4 already and liked them all. And there are enough ppl using the Inc2 that you can find a solution to most of your issues with a quick search.
I don't want a giant phone that's too big for my hands, and doesn't last a day on battery, and is supposedly better than the Inc2.
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Awesome man , I'm pretty much completely sure this'll be my next phone, and yeah, I don't see why 4G is so important. I don't think I'll dabble in phones like that until that actually becomes more battery efficient. I was thinking about the Thunderbolt, but realized it's horrible battery life, and an extended battery would be too much bulk. Plus, a 4.3in screen at only WVGA starts making it look a little pixelated(sp?). I'd love the Sensation though, if only it'd work on Verizon...But oh well, the inc2 sounds amazing, definitely gonna get it, here in the next month or so.

Love my Incredible2
My Eris 2 yr contract was expiring and I found a brand new Inc 2 on CL for $135. I ended up feeling sorry for the poor guy so I tossed in my old rooted GSB Eris so he would have a phone.
Bummer was, it had just installed 2.3.4... hopefully someone will come up with a fix for that real soon. G3 is plenty fast and the battery easily lasts all day. With moderate use it still has 50-60% at bedtime. Size is perfect, takes great pictures, it's very smooth and fast and so far absolutely trouble free. I just picked up another one for my wife and she can't believe the difference between it and her Eris. We are planning on going with NO contract for a while assuming I can keep my unlimited data plan. Highly recommended!

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My Eris 2 yr contract was expiring and I found a brand new Inc 2 on CL for $135. I ended up feeling sorry for the poor guy so I tossed in my old rooted GSB Eris so he would have a phone.
Bummer was, it had just installed 2.3.4... hopefully someone will come up with a fix for that real soon. G3 is plenty fast and the battery easily lasts all day. With moderate use it still has 50-60% at bedtime. Size is perfect, takes great pictures, it's very smooth and fast and so far absolutely trouble free. I just picked up another one for my wife and she can't believe the difference between it and her Eris. We are planning on going with NO contract for a while assuming I can keep my unlimited data plan. Highly recommended!
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There is that method with adb, but I mean, you have to know how to use it...I'm still learning that. And that's what I'm doing, not going with the contract, I'm gonna keep my unlimited plan as long as I can. Thanks for the response though

armchairbear said:
I had the original Inc 1 and now have the Inc2. Underrated is the best way to describe the Inc2.
It's everything that I wanted my Inc1 to be: faster and better battery life.
I was lucky to snag one off ebay that had Android 2.3 on it, and on first boot I made sure I rejected the OTA. Then I rooted as soon as I could.
I think the Inc2 is the best Verizon phone out right now, and here's why:
1. Form factor - at 4.0" screen is big, but not too big. All high end verizon phones are too big, imo, at 4.3"
2. It's fast - sure, on paper, it's rated at the same speed of 1Ghz as the Inc1, but the the CPU is made with the 45nm process instead of the 65nm of Inc1, which means it's faster and more power efficient. Also the Increase in RAM to 768 helps too. When rooted and overclocked (up to 1.9Ghz), it can be as fast as a duo core phone, or faster in some cases. I think it's faster than a Droid3 (duo core), the Inc2 has more ram than the Droid3, that seems to help.
3. It's still 3G - imo, 3G is fast enough, I don't need 4G draining my battery. I don't know why ppl make such a big deal out of 4G, I think battery life is more important in something that's portable.
4. Good battery life - The Inc2 easily lasts twice as long as my Inc1, even with heavy use. And it gets even better when rooted using an undervolted kernel.
5. Good community support - there are a lot of good custom roms for the Inc2. I've tried 4 already and liked them all. And there are enough ppl using the Inc2 that you can find a solution to most of your issues with a quick search.
I don't want a giant phone that's too big for my hands, and doesn't last a day on battery, and is supposedly better than the Inc2.
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Couldn't agree more I upgraded from the first Inc and I'm in love. This is the best phone I've ever had. Love the size and battery life most.
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i have also used several phones and I have to say the incredible2 has been amazing since i got it, I would recommend it to anybody in the market for an awesome phone

username235 said:
I was thinking about getting an inc2, upgrading from my inc, and I was wondering if it'd be worth it, does anybody have generally a lot of experience with the inc1, and gotten the inc2, and liked it better? Is the hardware well, better? What about amount of roms, and other software things of that sort; is there a wider variety available for it, than there is for the original inc? Another question, since the Incredible 2 and Incredible S are almost basically the same phone, would roms for the inc S work on the inc2, or would they just not be compatible? Thanks, whoever might answer these.
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I never had the original but i have had quite a few androids (aria, captivate,inspire, thunderbolt, and even an evo3d for a short time) i can honestly say the dinc2 is the most rock solid phone out of all of them. Its definitely underrated i love it. But no unfortunately inc s roms are not compatible
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this is for educational and seeking knowledge Purposes only .
Incredible S Roms Could be installed on Incredible 2 , working 100% if you know how . But you should know that developers ( sense 3.5 ) don't usually make their roms Global as i researched . what is available now For incedible 2 are CDMA only sense3.5 roms ( No GSM Support !!! ) , for Incredible S of course it would be GSM only sense 3.5 Roms . if you live in a country that uses GSM networks only , Incredible S is a Better Choice because as i noticed is little development for GSM Support for incredible 2 , you will have to stick with what is issued by Verizon , and of course they would not issue Sense 3.5 .
Now to install Incredible S rom on Incredible 2 ( you must be S-OFF and Rooted ) :
1- you must have similar compatible roms for Incredibles S and Incredible 2
2- replace the Boot.img of the incredible s rom with the same one from the incredible 2 rom inside winrar window ( Don't extract then zip again , just drag and drop )
3- install the rom from recovery as normal , it will Boot OK
4 if you have error starting WiFi ,then flash this Kernel ( inc2_2.6.35.14#18 ) ,it will solve the Problem , thanks to EhabFG ,
the two matching Roms are
EhabFG Android 2.3.5 Runnymed V1.3|EXT4|Full Arabic sense 3.5 ( google it) - Incredible S
-MikRoms-Incredible 2 HD v2.1 [sense 3.5 GB 2.3.5] ( google it ?) - Incredible 2
Please not that Same procedure was tried for the updates issued for those 2 Roms , it did not work ( meaning they are not similar anymore ) although they use the same New Base 1.02.401.1 ????
Some developer suggests the following
- Replace Boot.img
- Replace Kernel (Module Folder ) inside lib
- Replace Sevice.jar in framework folder
hope that would answer your Questions

[Q]How is this phone?

So I'm getting a new phone. Right now I have a Cliq 2, but I'm getting a new one in the next week.
Right now I'm trying to decide between this, the G2x, or the MT4GS.
I'm not trying to get you guys to tell me why I should get this phone over the others, I'd just like to know what this phone is like. What are the ups? The downs? How's the phones radio? Custom ROMs? Battery life? And anything else you feel might be good to know before I make a decision.
Thanks!
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I like the screen size, battery is good for me, gets me through my 14hr day on one charge with the screen use between 3:30-4 hrs. The radio is great, i get good speeds and great audio quality on the phone. The ROM choices aren't great YET, but Juggernaut is perfect for me and as stable as can be with many features and tweaks.
some phones have the screen flaws, but its hardly noticeable unless you look for it. I would definitely recommend over the G2X, my previous phone, which I did not like. The MT4G slide my lady has and its a nice QWERTY phone, but the screen is too small for my liking. Also I find the battery better on this than my G2X fyi. You won't be upset with this phone, of that I am sure.
There is enough hate in the world. Why can't we all get along here ...?

Just came from g2 with desire z hboot and rcmix3d 4.0...
Love the phone. Development is slow for phone. But phone is decent. Screen has bugs but overall nice phone great preformance with beastmod 2 4.0_

Large Screen, Fast, Great Battery

best phone i have ever owned!!! hands down, buy it now

Yea i had the g2x good phone but the gs2 blows it out of the water with everything.....mt4gs isnt in this category really as it is just a laggy beast (my 8yr old had one) anyways the screen is beautiful, call quality is awesome, rom development is getting there hopefully miui soon and we have cm. Audio quality=loudest phone i ever owned

this phone is exceptional in every way except development. our development page is death

Just buy it.

Alright cool. The only thing that's holding me back is the price tag now.
Also, how do you guys know you'll be getting more ROMs?
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theholyfork said:
Also, how do you guys know you'll be getting more ROMs?
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There is already an alpha build of CM7 available and CM9 is rumored to be in development. Once there is a stable CM7 build MIUI and other ROMs using a CM base should follow.
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Definitely take out the MT4GS. G2x is a beasty phone...but the SGS2 is just something else. Awesome performance with awesome battery life.

babymatteo said:
Definitely take out the MT4GS. G2x is a beasty phone...but the SGS2 is just something else. Awesome performance with awesome battery life.
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Yeah, I haven't heard much about the MT4GS. The only thing that has it still in my mind is the keyboard. I love having the keyboard on my Cliq2, but I'm willing to sacrifice it if I can get a great phone.
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theholyfork said:
Alright cool. The only thing that's holding me back is the price tag now.
Also, how do you guys know you'll be getting more ROMs?
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Go to Target. $129 with no rebates.
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Some of you are saying the dev here are slow which I agree to. But have you guys gone over to some of the other phones' dev threads? Look at the Amaze...LOL

I'm just curious do you people know how long it takes to compile and check roms for bugs? I don' think so. Making sure the code is correct if you changed anything.If their is one wrong line of code it code affect all the performance in a rom or kernel which could take minutes to hours to fix.. There will be no aosp roms until the cm team does it unless someone wants to do all the work themselves. Which by the way we have official support from the cm team. There are tons of developers outside which probably have tons of roms and kernels which are never released to the public because they don't want their work to be stolen or they simply don't want to share their work.
Doing things from scratch is a lot harder than porting. All the other galaxy s2 devices have mainly ports since they are nearly identical. The ports came from the official galaxy s2 which those people had to do things from scratch. Making roms is extremely time consuming these developers have other devices they work on, jobs , and family. They are not getting paid for their services to deliver roms. Just for you to flash and then complain about bad battery life. Which is most of the time the users fault. I think we should be more Appreciative that we actually have developers willing to share their work with us.

I like this phone. It makes phone calls and allows me to send texts.
I bet you'll enjoy it as well.

sn0warmy said:
I like this phone. It makes phone calls and allows me to send texts.
I bet you'll enjoy it as well.
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This answer made me smile. Thanks .... If you have some cash and you want to get something good get Galaxy Nexus. If you want to upgrade just go for SGSII it's nice I like it.

MT4GS: just no. The advantage of the g2x is OOB stock, and full cm support, plus wifi calling. It's a really awesome phone, and I would recommend it. GS2 is a really awesome phone but doesn't have full cm support yet.
TL;DR
MT4GS do not buy
G2X buy on a budget, or with no plans of rooting/romming
GS2 buy for the f***ing big screen, or the processor.
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GBGamer said:
MT4GS: just no. The advantage of the g2x is OOB stock, and full cm support, plus wifi calling. It's a really awesome phone, and I would recommend it. GS2 is a really awesome phone but doesn't have full cm support yet.
TL;DR
MT4GS do not buy
G2X buy on a budget, or with no plans of rooting/romming
GS2 buy for the f***ing big screen, or the processor.
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G2x isn't stock, it's still LG's overlay, just themed to look like stock.
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GBGamer said:
MT4GS: just no. The advantage of the g2x is OOB stock, and full cm support, plus wifi calling. It's a really awesome phone, and I would recommend it. GS2 is a really awesome phone but doesn't have full cm support yet.
TL;DR
MT4GS do not buy
G2X buy on a budget, or with no plans of rooting/romming
GS2 buy for the f***ing big screen, or the processor.
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Alright. Why do you say not to buy the g2x though if I have no plans of rooting or romming? From what I've seen on its forums, it has tons of rom's and a few kernals.
And from what everyone has said this phone will soon have tons of rom's, though nobody knows for real if that's true or not
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Any real advantage to rooting at this point? Or what for more roms?

Seems like for the T-mobile GS3 there are only a couple of roms, is there any real advantage to rooting at this point or would you wait?
So far, I kind of like the stock rom, s-voice, motion, etc... I wish the 4G were faster, but I don't know if a new rom or build.prop tweaks would really do anything for this.

There's really not many roms yet because the phone hasn't been out that long.
The goodies are yet to come, but at the moment the main reason to root is to remove all the bloat on the phone.
Personally I'm waiting till my return days expire before I start messing with my phone in case I have to return which I might because I really want the white.
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I had a white iPhone 3gs before. I think the white is cool but kind of girly...
I really like my blue one, though I didn't have a choice on color because I bought mine from someone instead of extending my contract.
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With gingerbread and especially ics stock roms have gotten a lot better. I still use root for other things like adfree, wifi tether, titanium backup and root explorer for changing some system stuff.
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dls5375 said:
With gingerbread and especially ics stock roms have gotten a lot better. I still use root for other things like adfree, wifi tether, titanium backup and root explorer for changing some system stuff.
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Adfree and wifi tether are the obvious reasons. I usually stick with stock builds with root for those two capabilities. I used to care a lot about being able to use root explorer to remove bloatware, but that was on the Evo OG that had tons of sprint bloant and tiny internal storage. I was constantly having to choose between having apps that didn't support app2sd or having enough free memory for the phone to perform. That whole issue is gone with this phone. I've barely touched the internal storage (though I have pretty much maxed my 16GB microsdhc card, I'm going to have to get a 64GB one to handle all the music/films/podcasts I keep on external storage.

Araltd said:
Seems like for the T-mobile GS3 there are only a couple of roms, is there any real advantage to rooting at this point or would you wait?
So far, I kind of like the stock rom, s-voice, motion, etc... I wish the 4G were faster, but I don't know if a new rom or build.prop tweaks would really do anything for this.
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I used to be flash maniac on my phones but with sg3 i left all behind. Even with all these bloats and sh!t i just do not feel the need to root and flash. God bless samsung! I was lost but now i am found.
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ThC23 said:
There's really not many roms yet because the phone hasn't been out that long.
The goodies are yet to come, but at the moment the main reason to root is to remove all the bloat on the phone.
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How do I remove the bloatware? I just rooted this past weekend.

The three main reasons I have rooted my devices are rather simple:
Titanium Backup (Being able to backup ANYTHING is a must and should have been standard imo).
WiFi Tether - Stupid that carriers offer unlimited data (Well sprint does) or even limited, yet then even further tell you HOW you can access that data... Sure it can be abused, but there's no reason they should limit it if you've already paid for set megs/month..
Lastly.. Root Explorer..
I use it mostly so i can add ringtones and images directly to the phones standard media folder, in case I swap out SD cards or such.. This isn't so much a big deal anymore with internal memory being standard.. but coming from an OG Evo it was a necessity. With my new S3.. not so much here

I just got the S3 today I am going to use my skyrocket fulltime still because cm9 kicks major ass and make my skyrocket tick at 1.8Ghz but this S3 is beastly with the 2GB ram I fly through everything but I am going to root it after th 14 days and remove all of the crap I dont want but I get why some people dont really wanna flash anything yet ICS is very fluid on the device and the hardware is off the charts especially with Jelly bean out once it gets ported that new OS will use more resources its natural because as it gets better it has to use more space and having 2GB Ram will help......ofcourse if CM9 or CM 10 or whatever its called is released it will be on my phone a soon as its available......

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How do I remove the bloatware? I just rooted this past weekend.
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I use Titanium Backup for that. They have a free and paid version.
The free one will allow you to freeze- meaning they will disappear, but not really un install from the device. You won't see them in the app drawer or delete them if you wish.
If you're a flash addict then the paid version is the way to go because it helps you restore all your apps that are backed up with a push of a button after every rom you flash.
Saves a lot of time rather than restoring them one by one, especially if you have a bunch.
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honestly, i might not flash a custom ROM on the S3. i used to flash ROMs like crazy on my Skyrocket, but i am actually very pleased with the S3. i am waiting for someone to make a ROM without all the AT&T crap, keep S Voice, and get a little better battery life though lol.

I'd say there are advantages such as root apps and debloated ROMs...which are better for battery and speed.
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I'd say there are advantages such as root apps and debloated ROMs...which are better for battery and speed.
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That is very true, but this phone out the box is pretty good on both categories.
So to me, it's not that important right now.
Usually I root and flash something within the first few days, but I really don't have an urge to at the moment.
I'm happy with the phone right now as it stands. Even with all the bloat.
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ThC23 said:
That is very true, but this phone out the box is pretty good on both categories.
So to me, it's not that important right now.
Usually I root and flash something within the first few days, but I really don't have an urge to at the moment.
I'm happy with the phone right now as it stands. Even with all the bloat.
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Exactly how I feal. Ive always rooted and romd pretty much right away for the speed, battery life, and features of custom roms.
Speed: seriously can you get any faster than instant and smooth as butter?
Battery Life: Im getting 4.5-5 hours of screen on time on each charge which is amazing compared to most phones so Im just now getting used to that lol. I know roms can even improve me on that but I dont need it right now.
Features: this phone stock is crammed with features.
I will be rooted before long for root apps and akop when it comes though

My other phone is an iPhone 4. And the battery on that phone is insane! And the gs3 is pretty darn good. I'm a heavy use phone guy, and i have only had to recharge this phone once during the day. Now at night (end of day) the battery is in the low teens but it's still on
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On my first gs3 I rooted it and had major software problems. Not only did wallet not work, but it seem to brick my nfc and no matter what I did I couldn't get it to work. I got it replaced which is good but I don't want to risk it again. This phone is amazing out of the box. I think when asop becomes available ill probably give it another shot. I wanna see what LTE is like too when it comes to Dallas
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Free gs3 release 3 is a big improvement over stock
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Android_Monsters said:
Free gs3 release 3 is a big improvement over stock
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Why?

Araltd said:
Why?
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Just to name a few off the top of my head... I know there is many more reasons.
Bloat free.
Smoother
No Carrier iq
Improved Battery life
1.89 oc
No adds (add free)
Free tethering
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I just rooted mine...Sprint. I got it 5 hrs ago and I couldn't stand the bloatware staring me in my face.. I also hate ads, so adfree is next to get installed on my phone. Plus i like to control whats on my phone and how it acts. All n all, this phone is awesome, I see no need for a ROM at this time, and i don't think OC is in the cards because this thing is fast. I have all these paid apps that were on my epic 4g that require root to run. i paid for them, so i'm gonna use em.