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[Q] Before I buy a HTC Desire HD - Clean Custom Rom?

Hi,
I am in the fortunate situation that I can pick out any cell phone that I Want. The Phone I have as of today is a HTC Desire.
Before I choose out a phone I wonder if there are any Custom ROM that can compare with the "clean, smooth and fast" Oxygen Room by AdamG for Desire HD?

the Desire HD is the Desire much improved, but we don't have anything as clean as the oxygen rom in development yet, best you can do is CM6
i'm on the official sense rooted + buzz kernel 1.0.6 and its running like a dream

What is the big improvement? "Start-up from hibernating" ?
Isnt the big improvements software-wise, and not hardware?

4.3 inch screen very close to the surface, despite not being either IPS or Amoled but its just beautiful, simply use a classic desire after the DHD and you will understand
much better soft keys instead of hard to press hard keys
beautiful unibody design
50% more RAM
more efficient 2nd gen snapdragon, OCable to 1.5GHz
internal storage problem gone for good, you have around 1GB free internaly, you dont see a mention of A2SD or Data2sd around here
a GPU that can handle 800x480 games at last, runs quake2 at 60fps makes a laugh out of the old one
Genuine Four Point Multi-touch sensor, you will never loose a reckless racing match because the touch gone crazy and you wont have to explain it to your friends
better camera and flash, check here Desire HD Camera guide
all you need to do is make sure you can handle the size plus weight, also make sure the unit you purchase is clean of factory defects, more info here Compilation of DHD ISSUES
as for the battery, custom kernels and calibration will solve that for you
more info here Would you buy Desire or Desire HD?
any other question and it will be like asking me to buy it for your just kidding
good luck

hamdir said:
4.3 inch screen very close to the surface, despite not being either IPS or Amoled but its just beautiful, simply use a classic desire after the DHD and you will understand
internal storage problem gone for good, you dont see a mention of A2SD or Data2sd around here
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Hi,
thank you for your reply
I have tried out a HD, but only with HTC Official Rom - and that ROM is lagging!
Great screen, yes ;-)
What do you mean about the problem with internal storage? Is the install location = SD as default, or is the internal storage expanded?

You may want to consider the battery before you buy, I tried every mod/kernel/custom rom/ 2g ect ect and the battery is terrible..1250mah is the reason why not matter how you look at it...When your out all day and some of the night without a charger then the phone becomes useless..
The main reason I sold mine, if that doesn't bother you then its a great phone..
Hd recording is pretty bad too, it becomes worse when compared to the SGS...a big difference..

nukleuzN said:
Hi,
thank you for your reply
I have tried out a HD, but only with HTC Official Rom - and that ROM is lagging!
Great screen, yes ;-)
What do you mean about the problem with internal storage? Is the install location = SD as default, or is the internal storage expanded?
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Rooting the phone and installing the buzz kernel will eliminate lag in the stock rom. It will also improve battery life.
Internal storage is 1.5gb, which leaves about 1gb for apps, rest if for the rom.
If after the new kernel you find it still too slow you can try cyanogen mod. Its very fast and stable although battery life is a little less than stock rom for some people.
Sent with Christmas cheer.

the official rom lags because of the stupid /init bug, easily solved by enabling usb debugging mode check here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=826507
as an added speed i'm running Buzz kernel v1.0.6 with interactive governor and it never lags even if i try check here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=880573
HD recording is not bad as long as you learn how to adjust the settings, you can check the info in my camera guide
as for storage i meant with the classic desire you have very little 150MB internal storage, you have around 1GB with the DHD

hamdir said:
HD recording is not bad as long as you learn how to adjust the settings, you can check the info in my camera guide
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Its not in the same league as the SGS...that goes for sound quality too..having had both phones and comparing them there is a big difference.

did this just turn out into an SGS vs Desire HD thread?? i don't get it really
the question was against Desire, there is another thread praising SGS go there
if you want me to go ahead and start hammering your SGS low points, i can go right now

hamdir said:
did this just turn out into an SGS vs Desire HD thread?? i don't get it really
the question was against Desire, there is another thread praising SGS go there
if you want me to go ahead and start hammering your SGS low points, i can go right now
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Actually: Im interessted.. Since I also have the SGS on my maybe-list
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

nukleuzN said:
Actually: Im interessted.. Since I also have the SGS on my maybe-list
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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same i wanna see this i used to have a galaxy s and now i have a hd7 and g2 thinking about getting a desire hd imported wanna see how it compares

Halabeaster54 said:
same i wanna see this i used to have a galaxy s and now i have a hd7 and g2 thinking about getting a desire hd imported wanna see how it compares
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Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

[Q] HTC Sense on Gingerbread ROM?

Hi guys,
I'm looking for a new custom rom for my phone, just rooted it... all gravy but fancy trying something of the things those genius chefs have been cooking!
I was looking for a Gingerbread rom with the HTC Sense style theme, but can't seem to find one; does one exist? I've had a look through the index and the developmnent forums but can only find Froyo Sense Roms. It's not a huge issue but it would be nice as I quite like the Sense layout and apps n' stuff
Also, any recommendations on roms? I think I'm going to try some of the gingerbead ones regardless of the htc sense(I like the sound of some of the enhancements) but wonder if anyones using something they can whole heartedly recommend, froyo or no?

Yeah, I would be interested in this too...

Not gonna happen, would need a complete re-write of Sense

EddyOS said:
Not gonna happen, would need a complete re-write of Sense
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Indeed. Try different roms and see which you like. Also, if you want different "styles" of sense, install a HD rom but it's still 2.2. Or you can just wait for 2.3 to be released for Desire which shouldn't be that long really.

GoogleJelly said:
Indeed. Try different roms and see which you like. Also, if you want different "styles" of sense, install a HD rom but it's still 2.2. Or you can just wait for 2.3 to be released for Desire which shouldn't be that long really.
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Ya I've gone for a 2.2 for now, I imagine I'll stick with it for a while until I feel a real 'need' to upgrade to 2.3.

Until HTC releases the 2.3 update for the Desire(s), nothing can be done :/
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Yes wait for new sense gingerbread. Or honeycomb rom
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

To be honest, I much prefer Gingerbread ROMs and have found Ultimate Droid 3.0.0 to be the best so far.
On top of this I use Launcherpro, which contains awesome Sense style widgets for calendar/facebook/bookmarks/contacts etc.
See it here:
http://www.appbrain.com/app/launcherpro/com.fede.launcher
I also use Fancy Widgets with the H7 clock theme as this gives me the Sense style clock on my homescreen as well.
See it here:
http://www.androidcentral.com/fancy-widget-looks-wee-bit-familiar
I love this setup
wildcardspv

I've actually seen a photo or 2.3.1 Sense 'running' as it were so it exists but it's on one of the new HTC handsets. Whether we'll see it on the Desire is another matter

was it the new htc desire 2 ? ? cant wait for desire 2 to be released.. im sure it packages gingerbread with sense and full support for honeycomb !

Honeycomb is for tablets only. There will prob be something similar for smartphones later on, maybe 2.4 or 3.0, who knows. But no, Honeycomb is non existant for phones for now.

HTC desire S
with sense and android 2.3.2 and now??
search on the youtube this sentence:
"HTC Desire S Videopreview da Telefonino.net @ MWC 2011"
I have faith it will come out until mid-year has the rom gingerbread-Sense

GoogleJelly said:
Honeycomb is for tablets only. There will prob be something similar for smartphones later on, maybe 2.4 or 3.0, who knows. But no, Honeycomb is non existant for phones for now.
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2.4 has already been released, it's an update release from Google of 2.3 full of BugFixes. The Desire S will be released running 2.4, as will the HTC Desire when the new sense comes to it. Check out the thread I posted covering HTC's confirmation plans to update the HTC Desire range to 2.4. This includes all models of the HTC Desire released at the moment.
Also Honeycomb will be released for phones, just only phones that have Dual Core Processors, so thats every single HTC device at the moment out of that league. Hope I helped guys

Sort of it...
Okay, Here's what you can get if you son't mind it not being an ACTUAL Sense UI
Sense UI Themes for Launcher Pro
It's not perfect, but a quick google of Sense UI Launcher Pro theme brings up quite a bit...

i'm kinda new to this but i really recommend this oxygen-2.0-RC7

I think our wait will be over soon.
Already sense ginger is on you tube.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Of course it's on YouTube - the Desire S has it out the box! Doesn't mean we'll get it soon, not until a dump is about (and not a test one doing the rounds)

EddyOS said:
Of course it's on YouTube - the Desire S has it out the box! Doesn't mean we'll get it soon, not until a dump is about (and not a test one doing the rounds)
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Even with a dump, that new sense looks very demanding and the specs of the Desire S are slightly better than the Desire, still im not upgrading to a Desire S, my contract has almost reached one year, and after that I still have another year to go..

EddyOS said:
Of course it's on YouTube - the Desire S has it out the box! Doesn't mean we'll get it soon, not until a dump is about (and not a test one doing the rounds)
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=955680
here it is

looks like you'r in luck.. its gonna be possible soon, there is a leaked rom out:
*edit*
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=903507
sorry wrong link .. this is the correct one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=955680
so lets hope the porting will start happening soon

Should I buy a Desire?

Hi guys,
I've got a htc wildfire and I'd like to upgrade it to something better. Desire fits my price range but I have some doubts.
A lot of htc phones share a common grounding problem. When you put your phone in a car cradle/holder or on a soft surface like sofa or pillow screen does not respond as it should. Please check the videos;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s30h7Uh6-CI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbIrdQ3ejDI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss81Y124GeY#t=50s
(if you use 2 fingers it won't be a problem as your second finger will be completing the ground circuit. but it is quite dangerous to use your both hands to click on a battery warning box while riding a motorbike)
I use my phone as a satnav a lot. So it would be a major issue for me if you guys phones suffer the same issue.
Could you guys just try it on a pillow/cushion for me please?
Cheers

Never had that issue, that's some b0rked handsets dude, maybe they were dry or whatever.
Well about buying Desire, if you will Root it then it's surely worth it.

in my opinion, desire it's really outdated now
if you can, better go for the desire s, it is going to replace the desire "original"
i never saw that issues on my desire..

I cant replicate that bug, as suggested above that phone must me broken.
Desire is a bit old now but still a good device with lots of dev support here, many roms to choose from.
Downsides...battery will last a day if your lucky, limited internal memory, no multitouch (dual touch only).
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

I can only confirm that the grounding bug is not a common issue. My old (AMOLED) desire does not have it. Since the whole back of desire is made from removable soft-plastic cover, I see no reason why this can be (other than liquid damage).
About buying a Desire today, its worth it IF you can find original AMOLED version. If you get SLCD version, then its better to go with either Incredible S or Desire S. Avoid Desire HD since the screen on that one is very poor quality (color and contrasts are very weak).

Never heard of such issue on the original Desire. Not sure about S, but other HTC phones have that issue, yes. Desire is a good phone, very good actually, by be prepared to learn about a2sd+ or CM7 hboot if you want to install more than a handful of apps. If you don't want to root, then go for desire s.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA App

calyxim said:
Hi guys,
I've got a htc wildfire and I'd like to upgrade it to something better.
Cheers
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Going from Wildfire -> Desire (even SLCD) is going to be a HUGE improvement. So if price of Desire S/Incredible S is way more, then go for it. Desire should be a good improvement.
Main downside with Desire:
Battery will be weaker compared to wildfire.
GPU performance is not on par with current phones (Desire S etc are much faster). But still better than wildfire!
All other issues can be solved with root/custom ROM.

asestar said:
Main downside with Desire:
Battery will be weaker compared to wildfire.
GPU performance is not on par with current phones (Desire S etc are much faster). But still better than wildfire!
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How can u compare battery life of Desire and Wildfire?
Wildfire: 3,2" screen with 240x320 res, 384mb RAM, cpu 528mhz
Desire: 3,7" screen 480x800, 576mb RAM, cpu 1GHZ
It's obvious that wildfire might have better battery life since it's **** phone, lol.
And tbh 1 day of heavy use with smartphone is not a bad result, those phones are made for it. If you want 1 week battery life buy Nokia 3310.

Compared to Wildfire Desire's memory is huge
I can overcome battery issue by buying 3 spare chinese batteries for peanuts as I did before for my wildfire. (touch wood they are still strong after 5 months)
There is only one amoled Desire on ebay which is a bit overpriced. (200 pounds)
Thanks for the heads up guys. I'll keep digging...

k3lcior said:
How can u compare battery life of Desire and Wildfire?
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Simply by how many hours you can use a phone while staying away from a cable
I know they have vastly different hardware, but come on. If you are used to 2-3 days on 1 charge, having to charge every night is gonna be something you will need to get used to.
I remember having around 2 days battery life with my Desire last year when 2.2 upgrade came (some time in september/october). So battery age can also be an issue.

calyxim said:
Compared to Wildfire Desire's memory is huge
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Im not sure about that, because the free memory available is only 140 mb to install apps (the rest of the memory is occupied by the rom itself)

But that is solved by root and app2sd/data2sd rom. I got 78mb free + 350mb on ext3 SD, making me never worry about space.
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda premium

I have the Desire and my other half has the Wildfire. I'm sure if you went from the Wildfire to the Desire you would be happy. As others have said, the Desire might not be bleeding edge now (but it is far from "outdated"). There are plenty of ROM's to choose from if you don't get on with the standard. I also have not experienced any touch screen weirdness - I have even used my desire on my motorbike in that past without problem.
You certainly could do worse.

Nice option!
With all the support this device is getting from devs?thats more than enough for you to consider.
But sorry, i dont have a bike.lol
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Desire.....Its rather hot when its working, and the poor battery life... wait for some better options.

I have my Desire for 2 years almost and I am very happy with it. The memory issue is easy to bypass with some custom ROM.
But TODAY I would not buy the Desire as it is a little outdated. Yes I would stick to HTC any day and go for the Desire S or the Sensation. But then again, it is your choice and you budget

Oh yes. Desire is a great phone, really powerful, and in late 2011, it's a much cheaper choice than a Sensation for example (which seems to be the top), I suggest you to buy a second hand Desire, root it and use custom roms, I haven't done it yet, but I used my friends Desire for a day, which had a custom rom with Gingerbread, and it was smooth as silk.
so, I wouldn't call it outdated yet. less powerful than the new ones? true.

I would suggest Desire as
1.its much cheaper than Sensation
2.it would take time for the dual core phones to reach to their full potential
3.only few games require dual core
4.you can run sense 3.0 and 3.5 sense roms which run very smoothly
5.it is widely supported by devs
I believe Desire will never be outdated

Go for it, desire has a great dev community too
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

I'm sorry for jacking the thread, but the noob video said to do that right ?
I'm in the same boat as the OP, current HTC wildfire owner, and sick to death of it. My main problem is the slowness and cr*p screen.
So anyway, I've been looking for an update, and i'm strongly leaning towards the desire. I can get it for 300 eur, and maybe I can sell my wildfire for 50-100 to some poor sod cruel. The desire S is 399, which is a tad high but *might* be considered if it's really deemed that much faster.
I just want a cellphone with a good screen and better text input (the wildfire's screen is way too small for texting efficiently), which is a reason why i'm leaning towards the desire Z (with keyboard). I know it's not as powerful as the other desire models, but still.
Custom rome are a requirement. Maybe not right away, but if i find something I don't like i'd like to be able to change it.
I can go on for a while like this, so i'll KISS, phone requirements:
- good screen (big enough, resolution)
- GPS (doesn't have to be state of the art, it just has to have a radio)
- Bluetooth
- Good input method (implies a larger screen or, preferably a hard press keyboard)
- I prefer hard buttons on the bottom instead of touch ones; i won't press them by accident (= annoying on wildfire)
- Responsive
- Not too expensive
I don't care about anything else, so the GPU makes no real difference to me i think, unless it really helps with anything besides games. Are any of the desire series a good match or would I be better off sticking with the wildfire until i can get something high budget ?

[Q] Will we receive an Android 2.3.5 & Sense 3.0 update?

Hello everybody. My question is simple, will we receive that kind of update? I am asking because you know, there are leaked updates for Desire S and HD, so they mean these phones will receive an update, so what about Desire Z?
(Note: I won't root my phone and install a Sense 3.0 ROM )

No, probably not. Sense 3.0 in its entirety is really pushing the limits of our system ROM storage, RAM capacity, and CPU load at stock speeds.
This is pretty apparent just by the fact that a lot of trimming as to be done even with a custom ROM to get it running on our phones now.
If you want sense 3, you probably need to root.

TRFFTR said:
Hello everybody. My question is simple, will we receive that kind of update? I am asking because you know, there are leaked updates for Desire S and HD, so they mean these phones will receive an update, so what about Desire Z?
(Note: I won't root my phone and install a Sense 3.0 ROM )
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It is very unlikley that the dz will get sense 3.0. Also android 2.35 may come as an ota update later on
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA Premium App

While we all love updates, 2.3.5 really isn't something we should be losing sleep over. I really don't see much support from HTC the rest of the way anyway. They may surprise us though.
Sent from my T-mobile G2 using Tapatalk

Objection
The Desire Z is the newest keyboard phone from htc, so it will get sense 3.0 for sure.
It has all spec that is needed to run sense 3.0
The 800mhz second generation processor, it's adreano 205 gpu, the 512mb ram, and it's big 1,5gb internal storage is more then enough.
It beats some older phones with first generation 1ghz processor easily.
Some selfmade Sense 3.0 Roms already run without problems on the desire z.
But the best reason why desire z will get an update is, because it was mentioned few weeks ago on htc turkey, they said that they started working on a desire-z sense 3.0 update
That was some time after they announced the desire-s update.

I do not think so for the limited RAM of DZ.
Furthermore, HTC has delayed again and again for the update of 2.3.3 to DZ, though finally it came out.
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mrx1983 said:
The Desire Z is the newest keyboard phone from htc, so it will get sense 3.0 for sure.
It has all spec that is needed to run sense 3.0
The 800mhz second generation processor, it's adreano 205 gpu, the 512mb ram, and it's big 1,5gb internal storage is more then enough.
It beats some older phones with first generation 1ghz processor easily.
Some selfmade Sense 3.0 Roms already run without problems on the desire z.
But the best reason why desire z will get an update is, because it was mentioned few weeks ago on htc turkey, they said that they started working on a desire-z sense 3.0 update
That was some time after they announced the desire-s update.
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Are sure about the information that HTC had started the work for Sense 3.0 on Desire Z?
That sounds wonderful.

Sunkins said:
I do not think so for the limited RAM of DZ.
Furthermore, HTC has delayed again and again for the update of 2.3.3 to DZ, though finally it came out.
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Are sure about the information that HTC had started the work for Sense 3.0 on Desire Z?
That sounds wonderful.
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Yes someone named Erdem Erbil from the german htc facebook page has pretty safe informations, that it will come to the desire z.
Even the slower wildfire s will get it
He checks the htc turkey page many times and read for new updates regarding sense 3.0

I sent an email to htc, with proof showing how well it runs, and they escelated the topic to the developers and are looking into it 8)
Sent from my Desire Z

Here is a list of mentioned phones from htc turkey:
1. Incredible S
2. Desire S
3. Wildfire S
4. Desire HD
5. Desire Z
It is pretty safe that this phones will get a sense 3.0 with android 2.3.5 update soon.

I dont think so, they can say what they want to, but i dont see them updating older phones so.... we wont see sense 3.0 officially... Wish i am wrong!!!

For the Desire S the Sense 3.0 OTA update is now available.
http://www.htcinside.de/htc-desire-s-wird-auf-android-2-3-5-mit-htc-sense-3-0-optimierung-aktualisiert/
Desire Z will follow soon.
But i can't understand why htc can't speak officially about an update a few weeks in advance.

mrx1983 said:
Some selfmade Sense 3.0 Roms already run without problems on the desire z.
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All the Sense 3.0 custom ROMs have the issue of not enough memory, so the browser and other apps (like browser) constantly kicking each other out of memory, and causing them to constantly restart.
Also, the issue of some SMS messages not received due to low memory.

redpoint73 said:
All the Sense 3.0 custom ROMs have the issue of not enough memory, so the browser and other apps (like browser) constantly kicking each other out of memory, and causing them to constantly restart.
Also, the issue of some SMS messages not received due to low memory.
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Ok that is really a problem.
I didn't know about this until now.
I only have seen the videos on youtube and the responses from custom rom users that it would run smooth.
I hope that htc can fix this memory issues, but i'm sure they will.
I mean, 512mb ram is not little, it is a lot for a smartphone.
They just have to tweak it a little bit and it will work

mrx1983 said:
For the Desire S the Sense 3.0 OTA update is now available.
http://www.htcinside.de/htc-desire-s-wird-auf-android-2-3-5-mit-htc-sense-3-0-optimierung-aktualisiert/
Desire Z will follow soon.
But i can't understand why htc can't speak officially about an update a few weeks in advance.
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They are like a joke, the update is available for Desire S users but if you ask them "Heya I am a Desire S user will I have a Sense 3.0 update??" they still say "We don't know, there are aspects of the latest HTC Sense..." thing I am incredibly happy now we have a big chance to get updated!!
mrx1983 said:
Ok that is really a problem.
I didn't know about this until now.
I only have seen the videos on youtube and the responses from custom rom users that it would run smooth.
I hope that htc can fix this memory issues, but i'm sure they will.
I mean, 512mb ram is not little, it is a lot for a smartphone.
They just have to tweak it a little bit and it will work
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They are all happening in Android 2.3.3 with Sense 2.1 in Desire Z too, so I don't think Sense 3.0 will be worse

Good news for all Desire Z owners.
In the last weeks it got still about a sense 3.0 update.
On a question regarding a sense 3.0 update you got everytime the same answer, that they didn't know anything.
today that changed completely.
HTC DACH indirectly announced that something will come to the desire z.
On a question regarding the Sense 3.0 Update for the Desire Z they said:
"Noch ein wenig Geduld bitte. Ich glaube das lohnt sich, ohne zu viel verraten zu wollen "
That means in english:
"A little more patience please. I think it's worth it. Without revealing to much "
I think a update is now very likely.
Maybe even a Sense 3.5 Update.
Lets wait and see

when we can update our desire z???

asturzo said:
when we can update our desire z???
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I think we will have the update before christmas
Incredible S and Desire HD will get it first, Desire Z will follow.

where u have read this info???
can u post the official page where u read pls??
so the desire z get android 2.3.5 and sense 3.0/3.5 this year ??

where u have read this info???
can u post the official page where u read pls??
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Here is the post that i mentioned:
http://de-de.facebook.com/htcdach/posts/307750165902533
The other infos you will find all over the place on:
http://de-de.facebook.com/htcdach/
Most of the time from "Sascha Hofmann" and "Erdem Erbil".
Sascha Hofmann, Erdem Erbil and the other members discussed the new sense 3.0 update very often.
It seems that HTC rolling out the updates from newest to oldest devices now.
so the desire z get android 2.3.5 and sense 3.0/3.5 this year ??
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It is very likely

the current 2.3.3 kicks sense from the memory. if this pushes thru i hope sense gets locked in the memory otherwise we'll see another "sense keeps restarting" issue...

History repeating itself - GB fiasco rebirth on DHD

We’ve heard your feedback on our decision not to update the HTC Desire HD to Android 4.0. We completely understand that this is a controversial decision.
For more background, due to how storage on the HTC Desire HD is partitioned – and the larger size of Android 4.0 – it would require re-partitioning device storage and overwriting user data in order to install this update. While technically advanced users might find this solution acceptable, the majority of customers would not. We also considered ways to reduce the overall size of the software package, but this would impact features and functionality that customers are currently using. Even after installing the update, there were other technical limitations which we felt negatively impacted the user experience.
We believe an update should always improve the user experience and carefully evaluate each update based on this criteria. While we are very aware of the disappointment from this decision, we believe the impact to user experience was too great. We recognize this is a change from our previous statement and for that we’re truly sorry.
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Link.
So I see DHD forums are moar or less in the same state these forums were a year ago.
We have petitions, we probably have nerds who ain't buyin another HTC phone evar. DHD never got official ICS update, as Desire never got GB. I'll give them that
As usual, I'm with the big bad company on this.
EDIT: gawd dang, I just saw what I did here - another useless ICS thread >.>

You spammer...
:banghead:
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So now it's possible to have full working ics for desire? I hope porting it will be not too difficult because desire and dhd are similar, they only differ for a HD after desire!
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erklat said:
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So I see DHD forums are moar or less in the same state these forums were a year ago.
We have petitions, we probably have nerds who ain't buyin another HTC phone evar. DHD never got official ICS update, as Desire never got GB. I'll give them that
As usual, I'm with the big bad company on this.
EDIT: gawd dang, I just saw what I did here - another useless ICS thread >.>
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Yup, totally agreed.
Standard users would never understand a full wipe due to repartioning. The other issue is the battery, to small...period. When HTC said "other technical limitations" I'm sure this was one. Sure, XDA got ics onto the HD, congrats, bet we hear noob complaints about battery, lag, etc.
The one thing they ****could**** do is the same they did for us, a stripped down ics ROM with "reduced functionality" released on HTC dev. That should placate the power users, the rest.....will not even notice.
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If HTC gives in, then yes there will probably a developer edition of ICS for DHD. But how many DHD users are there now compared to Desire users last year when we were in the same situation? Is their number enough to make HTC reconsider?
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paolo-red1 said:
So now it's possible to have full working ics for desire? I hope porting it will be not too difficult because desire and dhd are similar, they only differ for a HD after desire!
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Desire HD has adreno 205. When we had ports based on GB we still had drivers, now no matter what we won't get them so project butter, hw acceleration and the rest of the drool material will most likely remain in dreams of those who wish to use Desire for next 10-15yrs.
jmitr said:
Standard users would never understand a full wipe due to repartioning.
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^
Furthermore all potential issues that could arise from such procedure, I wouldn't want to be in shoes of the customer support when that happens. One has to know demographic structure behind those petitions and rage most easily explained if we draw a simple analogy to this board - out of 500 people say who frequent this board 50 people use either sense or aosp variant of something made for Desire and 450 use something else and are willing to argue whether it works 70% or 73%. Neither is 100.
I hope HTC got their grip together with making phones with 500 or 768 mb roms and promising software updates for any period of time while they oversaw the rate those updates are going to grow in size.
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erklat said:
Desire HD has adreno 205. When we had ports based on GB we still had drivers, now no matter what we won't get them so project butter, hw acceleration and the rest of the drool material will most likely remain in dreams of those who wish to use Desire for next 10-15yrs.
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Furthermore all potential issues that could arise from such procedure, I wouldn't want to be in shoes of the customer support when that happens. One has to know demographic structure behind those petitions and rage most easily explained if we draw a simple analogy to this board - out of 500 people say who frequent this board 50 people use either sense or aosp variant of something made for Desire and 450 use something else and are willing to argue whether it works 70% or 73%. Neither is 100.
I hope HTC got their grip together with making phones with 500 or 768 mb roms and promising software updates for any period of time while they oversaw the rate those updates are going to grow in size.
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Agreed again,
HTC always designs things a bit close for confort, or to put it in a pocketnow writers words "they always design their phones with at least one fatal flaw.".
I believe things are getting better though, for example the sensation had almost 2gb reserved for the various system partions, the entire one series has close to 4gb (couldn't be bothered to look up the actual partions...irrevelvant anyways). Some noobs on the One V forum were complaining about the partion sizes as close to 2gb are literally unused at this time. To me, that means room for future updates (though with only 512mb of ram.....how good? Hence the one tragic flaw arguement).
I messed with sense 2.1, 3.0, 2.1 / 3.0 hybrids, 3.5, etc but since May I am back to gb with sense 1.9. The only combo that really works on our desires.
I wish the current devs well, new things are always fun, but if you want a truelly functioning daily driver running the best our hardware is capable of, that is gingerbread with old sense, or aosp........period.
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jmitr said:
I messed with sense 2.1, 3.0, 2.1 / 3.0 hybrids, 3.5, etc but since May I am back to gb with sense 1.9. The only combo that really works on our desires.
I wish the current devs well, new things are always fun, but if you want a truelly functioning daily driver running the best our hardware is capable of, that is gingerbread with old sense, or aosp........period.
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Hear hear, opinion I always advocated. I doubt you'd have much success getting it to the puny minds in an ics related hysteria these days.
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erklat said:
Desire HD has adreno 205. When we had ports based on GB we still had drivers, now no matter what we won't get them so project butter, hw acceleration and the rest of the drool material will most likely remain in dreams of those who wish to use Desire for next 10-15yrs.
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Erklat you delude me, I was sarcastic
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Ha ha...I think HTC just copied the message from the announcement regarding the Desire and pasted it into the DHD one.

paolo-red1 said:
Erklat you delude me, I was sarcastic
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I have repented and am back on the path of righteousness.
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erklat said:
I have repented and am back on the path of righteousness.
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...as long as I have enough sarcastic and ironic toughts about funny people here on forum...
:beer:
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