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Sense 2.1 for Desire is possible

And you know why? Because Wildfire S has the same size of ROM as our Desire and it's running Sense 2.1 just fine. It will be probably stripped down, but still better this than nothing.

what about sense 3.0

hopefully you are right! when you mean stripped down what features are missing from the wildfire s that are normally in the ROM?

3.0 won't work as the graphics will take for ever to run properly on the Desire

I am happy with Sense 2.1

It's already possible to use sense 2.1 for our Desire. The Roms aren't stable and basicly features like the camera doesn't work at the moment.
Look at these Roms:
[ROM][Ginger Sense][04 Apr]RCMix S v06 A2SD/DATA++, long sms works, TV animation!
[ROM][Ginger Sense][2 April]Cool DesireS v1 A2sd+ 1.28.401.1 Base

Oh, thank you for informing us, Captain Obvious!

Ours version is 1.0 (at least mine is so) and I m contented to 2.1 which is available on DHD, DS and incredible-S now, hope it comes with gingerbread soon.
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EddyOS said:
3.0 won't work as the graphics will take for ever to run properly on the Desire
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i''m not developer and haven''t used HTC Sensation as it just came out, but is it not possible to port Sense 3.0 due to Sensation being dual-core? or will the interface be hardware accelerated? what do you think?

HTC Sense 3.0 will only support Sensation, EVO 3D, Flyer and newer devices; older hardware left behind - From Engadget

I thought I heard that Sense 2.1 with Gingerbread was coming out for the Desire soonish...

donald-c said:
I thought I heard that Sense 2.1 with Gingerbread was coming out for the Desire soonish...
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That'd be sweet...got a source/any kind of memory of where you heard it?

erj22 said:
HTC Sense 3.0 will only support Sensation, EVO 3D, Flyer and newer devices; older hardware left behind[/URL] - From Engadget
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yes i know but that''s what engadget said and they just quoted someone''s words but since ive seen miracles that developers here do i wouldn''t be surprised if they are able to port it to our desires

cgmorris89 said:
That'd be sweet...got a source/any kind of memory of where you heard it?
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http://www.mydaily-gadget.com/news/6214-htc-desire-gingerbread-update-comes-to-three-uk-late-april-early-may
Read about it here.

davebugyi said:
http://www.mydaily-gadget.com/news/6214-htc-desire-gingerbread-update-comes-to-three-uk-late-april-early-may
Read about it here.
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Nice...that's something to look forward to then.
Thanks btw.

but there is no word about whether or not it will include Sense too
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its sense 2.1 and camera should work as its a Bravo ROM.
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There is a leaked Bravo (Desire) ROM already in the DEV section. Hopefully working ROMs (rooted, data++, etc.) will be up tomorrow

Tomorrow is not acceptable! We need them today!

Hahaha Actually there is a lot of time till 23:59

Actually i'm much more excited about the new drivers coming from the official release: hopefully we'll get some performance buff, especially for our poor gpu

VZW Gingerbread?

Anyone have an idea when it will be released?... Theories? I am nearing the end of my 14 day return for my Inc 2 and noticed today that the X2 is supposedly going up for sale on May 26th WITH Gingerbread. Thoughts?

Umm have been reading on this and my question is why do you want ginger bread ? its just "Updated" version with nothing that is really new .

truelefty said:
Umm have been reading on this and my question is why do you want ginger bread ? its just "Updated" version with nothing that is really new .
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Are you serious? GB is significantly different from froyo. Better power and application management, NFC support, VoiP/SIP calls, SIP audio for video calling, better download management for HTTP downloads, new sensor support(gyroscope), audio, graphic and touch screen input enhancements for game developers, support for webm/VP8 video playback, aac audio encoding and bumped api's to 10 with more support for native code.
Not to mention the new skin for AOSP and the new multi touch KB. I'm sure I left out a bunch of stuff but that's what I can recall from reading. So that being said you should take a moment and actually do a bit of research before posting a response like that.
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Okay true .. but I'm not freaking out like "Oh I WANT Gingerbread already" there is no point in begging for it .. its more like you will get when you get it.

But then again, it shouldn't be the case that we're still stuck on Froyo when Gingerbread has been out for so long already and Google has already announced Ice Cream Sandwich.

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But then again, it shouldn't be the case that we're still stuck on Froyo when Gingerbread has been out for so long already and Google has already announced Ice Cream Sandwich.
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Again you guys need to research or have some actual information on the subject posted. GB is only running on a handful of devices (officially) and ICS will not be out for a while. So GB will come I'm sure, in its own time. So the majority of handset owners are "stuck" on froyo. Keep in mind any device with a custom UI is going to take longer than a vanilla device.
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The Inc1 is getting it...... so I'm assuming we will as well..

ACD168 said:
The Inc1 is getting it...... so I'm assuming we will as well..
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I have no doubt just a matter of when not if. And when root comes (ever the optimist) we will likely have even more choices.
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I've read in many articles that, HTC said that gingerbread would come in Q2, Since the end of Q2 is in june, i don't see why we wouldn't get in then, especially if the first incredible is supposed to get it in summer. Motorola isn't going to let the Droid X get gingerbread before the X2, i don't imagine HTC will let the first incredible get it before the inc2

I would agree too, I think they are waiting to release the bug fixes like backwards maps in the GB release. Costs them too much to keep pushing out patches.

i have a sample inc2 device with GB 2.3.3 sense 2.1 (s/w version 2.09.605.1 baseband 20.27w.30.0811u_1.07.00.0507_3) loaded. This is not a mkt sale device but since I got it with that loaded on it i know GB will be coming to all when verizon finishes whatever tests it does. Also since it is so stable, i doubt that everybody getting GB is too far away.

khanam said:
i have a sample inc2 device with GB 2.3.3 sense 2.1 (s/w version 2.09.605.1 baseband 20.27w.30.0811u_1.07.00.0507_3) loaded. This is not a mkt sale device but since I got it with that loaded on it i know GB will be coming to all when verizon finishes whatever tests it does. Also since it is so stable, i doubt that everybody getting GB is too far away.
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WHOAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is freakin awesome news!!

bik2101 said:
WHOAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is freakin awesome news!!
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Was there any doubt? I mean the original Inc is getting it the DX and D2 are as well. Seems a no brainer imo.
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well i knew it was coming but hearing that it is likely soon is what i was reacting to

Do we have any inkling as to what GB will look like and what flavor of Sense 2.1 we will get? The leak of GB for the Thunderbolt had Sense 2.1 with the Sense 3 notification pull down, but not the new lockscreen. The HTC Flyer is running GB and Sense 2.1, but the lockscreen is the Sense 3 style. I would love to get the lockscreen and the quick settings in the pull down.

PearlMikeJam said:
Do we have any inkling as to what GB will look like and what flavor of Sense 2.1 we will get? The leak of GB for the Thunderbolt had Sense 2.1 with the Sense 3 notification pull down, but not the new lockscreen. The HTC Flyer is running GB and Sense 2.1, but the lockscreen is the Sense 3 style. I would love to get the lockscreen and the quick settings in the pull down.
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once(if) we get root, DEVs can get us the 3.0 lockscreen the inc1 already has ROMs using it.

ACD168 said:
once(if) we get root, DEVs can get us the 3.0 lockscreen the inc1 already has ROMs using it.
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I am all for this, but it would be nice to see it come as part of the update from VZW/HTC. If HTC already has it for Sense 2.1, lets see it on our devices when they get updated.

I've read that only dual core devices will get the full on sense 3.0 experience(officially). Maybe jcase or one of the devs in the know could verify this?
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The gb version I see is similar to the version the bolt shipped with. It's sense 2.1. No lock screen goodies.
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khanam said:
i have a sample inc2 device with GB 2.3.3 sense 2.1 (s/w version 2.09.605.1 baseband 20.27w.30.0811u_1.07.00.0507_3) loaded. This is not a mkt sale device but since I got it with that loaded on it i know GB will be coming to all when verizon finishes whatever tests it does. Also since it is so stable, i doubt that everybody getting GB is too far away.
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I can hope...just make root easier now, haha.

[Q] HTC Desire - Girlfriend ROM and apps?

I just bought the SGS2, and my girlfriend is getting my old HTC Desire.
She tried it for a week, with Oxygen ROM and while generally happy with it, she was underwhelmed and annoyed with a few of the more obvious warts of stock android 2.3. The crappy dialer and the crappy keyboard, to name a few.
I then installed a lot of GO apps on it, GO Launcher EX, GO Dialer, GO Widget etc.
While these are in some respects better, they have other issues.
I am now considering if a ROM with Sense would be a good compromise for her. I will not give her the latest stock 2.2 ROM from HTC, I want her to have 2.3. So it would have to be a 2.3 ROM with Sense on it. And I don't even know which version of Sense. I have only really worked with the one in the stock 2.2 ROM from HTC. I think it is Sense 1.9?
So, can you guys recommend a 2.3 ROM with Sense or a 2.3 ROM and some good core apps (dialer, keyboard, sms/texting etc.) that is girlfriend-friendly?
Thanks in advance

I'd recommend one with the Sense 3.0.
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pinkfloydhomer said:
So, can you guys recommend a 2.3 ROM with Sense or a 2.3 ROM and some good core apps (dialer, keyboard, sms/texting etc.) that is girlfriend-friendly?
Thanks in advance
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Did you try leedroid's Rom?
Also here is a list of some cool HTC desire Roms With and w/o sense.
hxxp://alchemistar.blogspot.com/2010/10/htc-desire-custom-roms-list-100910.html
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kkoolpatz said:
Did you try leedroid's Rom?
Also here is a list of some cool HTC desire Roms With and w/o sense.
hxxp://alchemistar.blogspot.com/2010/10/htc-desire-custom-roms-list-100910.html
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why you pointing to external link when we have a development section full of nice a great ROMs?

I would recommend a ROM with Sense 2.1/3.0 (Hybrid) because the Sense 3.5/3.0 ROMs are a bit too much sometimes for the Desire as I read and heard (in case of lags and so).
But Runnymede is recommended very often.
So I would go with Revolution or InsertCoin which I self am using since a few months and i'm quite happy with it.

3l_P3sc4d0r said:
I would recommend a ROM with Sense 2.1/3.0 (Hybrid) because the Sense 3.5 ROMs are a bit too much sometimes for the Desire as I read and heard (in case of lags and so).
But Runnymede is recommended very often.
So I would go with Revolution or InsertCoin which I self am using since a few months and i'm quite happy with it.
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+1 for revolution. It's the most stable and lag free sense rom I have ever used. I also think a sense rom is more useful for your gf than a stock Android one. You should definitely let her try revolution
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EvertorN said:
+1 for revolution. It's the most stable and lag free sense rom I have ever used. I also think a sense rom is more useful for your gf than a stock Android one. You should definitely let her try revolution
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this is also my opinion. my girlfrind is verry happy with the sense gui and InsertCoin rom...

Ok, so Revolution or InsertCoin?

pinkfloydhomer said:
Ok, so Revolution or InsertCoin?
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Definitely revolution.
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I would say try both

Why do all threads where people ask recommendations for third party turn out Sense 3.5 and hybrid abomination commercials?
Run either a ruu or flash her a rooted stock rom unless you have an ambition in becoming a mobile phone user support for ungrateful girlfriends.
Or simply buy her an iphone as I did for mine.
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erklat said:
Or simply buy her an iphone as I did for mine.
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You'll probably get laid more often as an added bonus because of it.

@erklat
And I really dont get the point why you always have to bash the other Roms except Supernova's. Supernovas Rom sure is great but there also other good ROMs (even with Sense 3.0/3.5). They are maybe that not stable and so on but the Users also have different preferences. For some eye-candy is the most important feature, for other it is stability and speed.

3l_P3sc4d0r said:
@erklat
And I really dont get the point why you always have to bash the other Roms except Supernova's. Supernovas Rom sure is great but there also other good ROMs (even with Sense 3.0/3.5). They are maybe that not stable and so on but the Users also have different preferences. For some eye-candy is the most important feature, for other it is stability and speed.
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Not that I don't bash just supernova, I don't bash either of the Sense 1.9 roms, aosp roms, or even roms which are broken and are advertised as such.
And I have no beef with roms or their developers, but with idiots that turn every rom recommendation thread into this. OK, you're free to do whatever you want, but you can't come and write "Sense 3.5/ICS :drool:, this, this, this and this doesn't work, but it's perfect".
As far as I'm concerned, the scale goes like this: unusable - bad - average - good - perfect. I hope meaning of perfect is self explanatory?
If the op states that he is giving away his phone, Sense 3.5 roms don't have nothing to look for here. Giving away phone with some of it's features severely limited is insanity.
It is you Sense 3.5 users who mixed up priorities here, not I. If the thread was titled "most eyecandy" rom I'd be silent.
stankyou said:
You'll probably get laid more often as an added bonus because of it.
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I devised a few fail safe mechanisms to secure myself from that event. Namely, getting dead drunk on her birthday after work works best
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erklat said:
Or simply buy her an iphone as I did for mine.
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I did the same and she is so happy... IPhone is the best smartphone for girls. That's for sure.

sudkcoce said:
I did the same and she is so happy... IPhone is the best smartphone for girls. That's for sure.
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This, they don't know what Android or Desire is, and ultimately they don't care. But they will never make a mistake recognizing an iPhone and a BMW keys.
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@erklat
And I have no beef with roms or their developers, but with idiots that turn every rom recommendation thread into this. OK, you're free to do whatever you want, but you can't come and write "Sense 3.5/ICS :drool:, this, this, this and this doesn't work, but it's perfect".
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I wasn't giving the OP a recommendation for a Sense 3.0/3.5-ROM, I was recommending him a Hybrid (2.1/3.0). And this I can do with pure conscience because the ROM I'm using right now (InsertCoin) is way faster than the Stock-ROM that was originally on the Desire and i havent experienced anything thats not working yet (no reboots, no failures, ... everything is working fine).
Yeah, maybe the Sense-ROMs you are not bashing are a bit faster than the ISC and Revolution Hybrids but there you have an uglier ui, so you have to balance.
Maybe you should testing a Hybrid for yourself because now you are just assuming things.

erklat said:
Why do all threads where people ask recommendations for third party turn out Sense 3.5 and hybrid abomination commercials?
Run either a ruu or flash her a rooted stock rom unless you have an ambition in becoming a mobile phone user support for ungrateful girlfriends.
Or simply buy her an iphone as I did for mine.
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I want her to have 2.3, and there is no good official 2.3 ROM from HTC. So I guess I might as well try a girlfriend-friendly 2.3 ROM, preferably one that "just works" and that I don't have to help her with a million times. If you can recommend such a ROM, it would be great.
I agree with you that eye candy is not the most important thing here. Usability and stability is. Unfortunately, stock android have usability issues with simple things such as the dialer and the keyboard. And Android 2.3 is a must.
I will never buy her an iPhone, so that's not an option.
What do you recommend?

3l_P3sc4d0r said:
Maybe you should testing a Hybrid for yourself because now you are just assuming things.
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That is a very bold statement to make when talking with someone with 217,71 times your post count here
I did that, when they were popular, IC was on my phone for a whole 15 minutes before restoring nandroid backup of my AuraXTremeGinger I used at that time. You can feel when it was placed in past. To be honest, I didn't get to the post where you recommended anything. It was enough for one which spends as much time as me reading these threads to read a couple of the first ones and catch the drift of where is it going. After that I just scroll real fast through the thread. No Stock rom recommendations? Check. Commence bashing.
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I want her to have 2.3, and there is no good official 2.3 ROM from HTC.
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Who told you that? You have the one in my sig, baadnwz made his rooted stock GB rom and teppic74 has his.

New ics rom with sense 3.6

If this developer pulls this rom off our desires will be up there with the big guns....still!

Looks like that thread got deleted from the dev section

Why would you want sense with ICS?
I used to love sense as it was an improvement over froyo and gingerbread apart from being ugly they were lacking some functions which sense added.
ICS even in its various beta incarnations is better than any of the sense roms (in my opinion) that I have tried.
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Sense or no sense, will be brilliant when that finally crack it!
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Was wondering if that thread was fake or some thing though as its been deleted

I also don't like Sense, but the announced today entry-level HTC One V has almost identical parameters as our old desire and will be running ICS 4.0.3 + Sense 3.6.
Probably the port would be possible after applying the proper kernel modules for QSD8250.
The other phones from the HTC One series will run Sense 4.0, which I doubt will run smoothly on the old Desire's hardware.

xtsbg said:
I also don't like Sense, but the announced today entry-level HTC One V has almost identical parameters as our old desire and will be running ICS 4.0.3 + Sense 3.6.
Probably the port would be possible after applying the proper kernel modules for QSD8250.
The other phones from the HTC One series will run Sense 4.0, which I doubt will run smoothly on the old Desire's hardware.
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Is it not more like the Desire S? 4GB ROM instead of 512MB - but I bet the CPU/Graphics etc. are far different than we have now

I think ICS looks much better without any HTC Sense.

The internal storage is already a resolved issue using a good SD card.
About the CPU/Graphics I believe it will be the 2nd generation Snapdragon + Adreno 205 combination, which is not a lot different.
It's perfect option to sell the last of them. Same as they do with the Legend and Wildfire 2 years ago.
Don't forget also that we got 64 Mb more RAM and probably most of us better IMHO AMOLED display
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xtsbg said:
The other phones from the HTC One series will run Sense 4.0, which I doubt will run smoothly on the old Desire's hardware.
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well, on paper this statement shouldn't be entirely correct. htc got rid of the 3d widgets when you scroll between home screens in sense 4.0 but kept the 3-dimensional workspace, so that should give us some plenty of more performance. if you had a sense 3.0/3.5 rom and had disabled the 3d widgets you'd see the BIG improvement in performance i am talking about...and in my opinion that's because of the comaparitively weak adreno 200 performance compared to the new phone gpus...

i think MIUI interfase most better then any sense

No sense please
When the Desire came out, Sense had a lot of cool functions that left stocking in the dust. Cool widgets, good dialer, good alarm and good integration with fb/twitter. Now all of these things are in stock ICS or available through lightweight apps from the market. Once you have tried the speed of stock builds, I just don't see how you could ever go back to sense.

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i think MIUI interfase most better then any sense
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Any more Sense threads you tried to hijack with your MIUI obsession?
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erklat said:
Any more Sense threads you tried to hijack with your MIUI obsession?
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erklat for world Overlord! Lol.

I think ICS looks much better then HTC Sense.

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I think ICS looks much better then HTC Sense.
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Disagree ICS without sense appears a little bland I think.

I like ICS simplified interface. Tired of Sense's gimmicks. I think that I never install Sense rom again, even if it will be miraculously released official update.

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Any more Sense threads you tried to hijack with your MIUI obsession?
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If you compare Sense with plain ICS in a Sense thread, you should allow to compare it to MIUI too. I like the look of MIUI too (especially the new v4)!

Your thoughts on The HTC One V RUU ported to the HTC Desire?

Since HTC have revealed the HTC One V for Q2 of this year. Do you reckon some devs will be able to port the RUU over to the HTC Desire?
If you don't know what it is; it can be found here: http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...bile-phones/hands-on-htc-one-v-review-1066217
It states it has a single core 1Ghz CPU and sense 4.0 on top of ICS. Do you think this could be run smoothly on our two year old Desire's once HWA is fully fixed?

topgeardave said:
It states it has a single core 1Ghz CPU and sense 4.0 on top of ICS. Do you think this could be run smoothly on our two year old Desire's once HWA is fully fixed?
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a) even if it has 1GHz single core cpu, it for sure is not one from 2008
b) Sense 3.5 doesn't work smoothly, so mine (possibly broken) logic says that it probably won't.
c) I for one couldn't care less if it gets ported or not. I know that software version is one part of the coin, where no number of updates will change the fact what Desire fundamentally is - a two year old with archaic architecture.
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*snip* once HWA is fully fixed?
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I doubt it'll get fixed.

As above, even though its a 1ghz processor, the desires technology is now outdated. Its possible we may get some sense 4.0 with ICS but who knows.
Will just have to wait and see what we get

If hwa is delt with I'm sure we might get sense 4.0 but won't let my hopes go up just yet. Although One V has a newer cpu/gpu so do Sensation/Evo3D/Amaze which run sense 3.0/5 (custom) much like I run it on my desire. There's not that much multitasking in comparison but it's running stable and very, very fast. Comparable to the best sense 1/2.0 roms out here. And it seems that sense 4.0 is lighter on ram since V has just 512mb compared with desires 576. My 2c.
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PlayPetepp said:
Comparable to the best sense 1/2.0 roms out here.
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Blasphemy '-.-

erklat said:
Blasphemy '-.-
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Try it, then reply.
Everyone is entitled to their own oppinion anyway.
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Try it, then reply.
Everyone is entitled to their own oppinion anyway.
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Well, there's "smooth" and and there's "sense 3.5 smooth". I've tried most 3.0+ roms but I don't think that people here truly understand what smooth is. I was one of those people. Then I tried oxygen (Mildwild's version to be precise) and it utterly ruined sense for me. I just can't go back.
Although I do miss sense from time to time

Wasn't talking about aosp, miui or cm7. Imho, sense will never be as fast. But that's not the topic of this thread anyway.
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I thought AceS 3D port of Sense 3.0 was smooth - but then I went to ICS 0.3.x beta's and was amazed how quick and responsive it was even as a beta.
I do like Sense a lot- especially the camera and people apps but it's days are numbered where ICS is concerned... still wouldn't want to go to stock Gingerbread to be honest but it's probably heaps smoother still

AceS smooth?
It was very, very slow and huge in ram.
I wasn't able to open tweet deck when playing music!
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If aosp roms I've only tried mildwild and my current sense rom is at least as fast, if not faster... Not bragging or something. It's an objective opinion. I was really disappointed, since everyone here seems to think otherwise.

One V uses a S2 CPU. The Desire has a S1.
Although, interestingly, the V has slightly less RAM than the Desire.
If ROMs get ported, I don't think there will be RAM issues, but there will be a lot of lag issues etc.
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I tried reading this topic, but after I got to erklat's post I was hit by an epiphany: None of this matters to me, Sense sucks.

bortak said:
Sense sucks.
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Why exactly? Sense is the best thing that happened to android.

sudkcoce said:
Why exactly? Sense is the best thing that happened to android.
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FTFY
ICS is the best thing that happened to android

Htc said that Sense 4 is lighter than 3.5 + we have One V with 512 Ram so i think it's possible to port and to work smoothly.
"From the original Sense up to Sense 3.5 we added too many things. The original concept was that it had to be simple and it had to be easy to use and we had that philosophy, but over time it got cluttered," Kodera said.
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/44715/htc-sense-got-too-complicated

w1000i said:
Htc said that Sense 4 is lighter than 3.5 + we have One V with 512 Ram so i think it's possible to port and to work smoothly.
"From the original Sense up to Sense 3.5 we added too many things. The original concept was that it had to be simple and it had to be easy to use and we had that philosophy, but over time it got cluttered," Kodera said.
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/44715/htc-sense-got-too-complicated
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True, but what about internal memory?
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bortak said:
FTFY
ICS is the best thing that happened to android
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Could not agree more.

I'm all up for this an am infact waiting for this to be ported over to the desire. This new Sense sounds like it'll be less on an issue to run on our devices than Sense 3 and 3.5. Plus I'm looking forward to Android 4 on a Sense phone.
Hopefully this starts happening soon!