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The new HTC Sense - is it coming to Desire ?

HTC guys just announced the brand new Sense update with cloud sync, remote wipe, Maps caching and other just completely awesome stuff for the HD and the Z. Can we hope for it on our devices? Post your opinions!
What's New in HTC Sense for Android?
UPDATE: Thanks to xmoo we already have a system dump of the new sense which will be on HTC Desire Z and Desire HD
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=785057
UPDATE 2: "there is no final decision" for Desire/Legend, no cake for Hero users

Update: HTC Russia says that it needs some things on Android side, but the whole tweet looks more "yes" than "no". Can we expect future updates? Watch this thread
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I would really like to be able to use Sense in landscape like on the HTC Desire Z! Takes for ever now to enter a new wifi access point.

No word from @HTC_Ru. Maybe you should ask your local dept?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

i will get the htc desire hd when it comes

Watched the video on Youtube - the new Sense definitely has some nice tweaks! Would love to see a Desire ("SD") version of the ROM! Love the Desire HD massive display but doubt I could make it work with the small battery!

mickliq said:
Watched the video on Youtube - the new Sense definitely has some nice tweaks! Would love to see a Desire ("SD") version of the ROM! Love the Desire HD massive display but doubt I could make it work with the small battery!
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can you provide a link?thx

Htc said at the news thing today that it should be coming to our desires too
(seen as the desire is higher spec device than the desire Z (desire Z runs at 800mhz)
I have been investigating this "super fast boot" feature in new sense.
for those that have not seen it, it boots in literally about 2 seconds.
I believe this is due to the phone will never "turn off" properly, like blackberries, it will just go into a hibernation like state that can be easily woken back up.

deepakoffline said:
i will get the htc desire hd when it comes
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Also thought about that, but I'm kinda short on money to get an unlocked one (about $1000 here in Russia). Wish they got that thing rooted quickly...
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Lennyuk said:
I have been investigating this "super fast boot" feature in new sense.
for those that have not seen it, it boots in literally about 2 seconds.
I believe this is due to the phone will never "turn off" properly, like blackberries, it will just go into a hibernation like state that can be easily woken back up.
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Yeah, a two second boot isn't possible under Android unless it's just doing a suspend to RAM. It means the battery will drain faster when 'off'.

teppic74 said:
Yeah, a two second boot isn't possible under Android unless it's just doing a suspend to RAM. It means the battery will drain faster when 'off'.
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I have never turned my phone off. No, really
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Lennyuk said:
Htc said at the news thing today that it should be coming to our desires too
(seen as the desire is higher spec device than the desire Z (desire Z runs at 800mhz)
I have been investigating this "super fast boot" feature in new sense.
for those that have not seen it, it boots in literally about 2 seconds.
I believe this is due to the phone will never "turn off" properly, like blackberries, it will just go into a hibernation like state that can be easily woken back up.
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did HTC really confirm the sense update is coming to our Desires? one thing im thinking about both the Z and HD have internal 1.5ROM... so im the new sense might not leave us with much free internal storage
i'm not worried about performance Z has 800mhz + 512RAM
just the storage issue might make it impossible...but it's nothing XDA members can't solve

hamdir said:
did HTC really confirm the sense update is coming to our Desires? one thing im thinking about both the Z and HD have internal 1.5ROM... so im the new sense might not leave us with much free internal storage
i'm not worried about performance Z has 800mhz + 512RAM
just the storage issue might make it impossible...but it's nothing XDA members can't solve
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We have a2sd, and guess data2sd is also possible, so that shouldn't be a problem.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Update 2: HTC Russia says that "there is no final decision yet" for the Desire and the Legend, no cake for Hero users
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hamdir said:
did HTC really confirm the sense update is coming to our Desires? one thing im thinking about both the Z and HD have internal 1.5ROM... so im the new sense might not leave us with much free internal storage
i'm not worried about performance Z has 800mhz + 512RAM
just the storage issue might make it impossible...but it's nothing XDA members can't solve
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yeah we should be able to "port" it if it came to that, but I am sure it will come officially....eventually.....

You can pre-order the Desire HD on MoDaCo - tempted...

EddyOS said:
You can pre-order the Desire HD on MoDaCo - tempted...
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I was till I saw the price....

Ah bollocks here we go again a will they won't they thread with a thousand different answers from different HTC script readers/call centre staff..
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Here's a video of the new Sense features: (jump in 2:30)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_3kLDD-tZs

fredisco said:
Here's a video of the new Sense features: (jump in 2:30)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_3kLDD-tZs
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Did I notice the app drawer still lagging at the bottom really need that sorted...

Is the desire a good smartphone? Pros n cons wanted

I have a friend looking at phones...is this a decent phone? Are there any problems with it as far as hardware goes? Reliable, etc... im not new to xda just have an incredible
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App

People says that the desire's ambient light sensor has a problem which I have yet to encounter. Also, the desire has very small internal memory which could be a problem in the future date.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

cons: battery life, small internal app space
pros: pretty much everything else

OpusX11 said:
cons: battery life, small internal app space
pros: pretty much everything else
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Actually, I think the battery life is rather normal just like other smartphones and shouldn't be quoted as a con.
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OpusX11 said:
cons: battery life, small internal app space
pros: pretty much everything else
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To some extend (almost entirely) I agree with OpusX11. However:
1. Unless the very latest models are different, all (each and every single) smartphone are provided with "short" batteries. Personally, I can go one full day without recharging (push enabled, several phone calls, some internet, some wifi, some GPS).
2. Small is so relative... Again, only very few smartphones are provided with more that half a Gb memory for programs. Do we want more? Yes!, but as of today, this is among the biggest ROM available in the market. You can overcome this limitation with several very nice cooked ROMs available here at XDA (I'm very happy with the RCMixHD ROM I'm using)

rafaelegomezb said:
To some extend (almost entirely) I agree with OpusX11. However:
1. Unless the very latest models are different, all (each and every single) smartphone are provided with "short" batteries. Personally, I can go one full day without recharging (push enabled, several phone calls, some internet, some wifi, some GPS).
2. Small is so relative... Again, only very few smartphones are provided with more that half a Gb memory for programs. Do we want more? Yes!, but as of today, this is among the biggest ROM available in the market. You can overcome this limitation with several very nice cooked ROMs available here at XDA (I'm very happy with the RCMixHD ROM I'm using)
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Doesn't that technically negates off the cons? Leaving the desire flawless? Lol.
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Internal space is limited, can be overcome with apps2sd as mentioned above.
Power button is annoying, the slightest touch will turn your phone on, annoying when your trying to save the last 10 minutes battery for an important phone call.
I've dropped mine a dozen times on concrete from hand height with no protector and its still working fine.
There is massive developer support here if your into that sort of thing, you will arguably get more/higher quality hacks, mods and rom's than on less popular devices.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Coming from an old Nokia 5140i the Desire is extremely good.
I am running stock HTC 2.2 and haven't had any problems with neither battery nor storage (admittedly I don't install very many apps).
I go from 100% battery to between 50 and 10% during a days usage. And that often includes Wi-Fi on almost all day, about 30-40 SMS, some web browsing and between 30 to 60 minutes of games on the bus.
I have dropped my phone without protection once on a gravel road from hip height and the only damage were some small scratches in the plastic on the top.
As written above the power button is a bit sensitive, but not something that's overly annoying.
I have a SLCD screen and it is very nice, both regarding colours, brightness and touch sensitivity.
It's very nice to have actual buttons for the home/menu/back/search buttons, and not touch ones, as it's less risk of accidentally pushing them.
All in all it is a very solid phone (for me at least) and one I would very much recommend.

I agree- a top phone all in all;
cons- battery (lasts about 2 days max for me), low internal memory, (no htcsense.com could be a downside too?)
pros- nice design, quick phone, with android!

Lothaen said:
I agree- a top phone all in all;
cons- battery (lasts about 2 days max for me), low internal memory, (no htcsense.com could be a downside too?)
pros- nice design, quick phone, with android!
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Htcsense.com will come to desire when(or if) it upgrades to sense 2.0
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Old phone already, I doubt that even gingerbread will be availabe as an OTA update, not even mentioning sense 2.0 because of the low internal memory.
So,
Cons: old device, probably no more support from htc, probably no ginger and most likely no sense 2.0 and custom ROMs with it will never be smooth
Pros: overall a decent phone, satisfied with it but very pissed on the HTC support
The battery is not an issue, you can easily get 2 days out of it if used with knowledge and tweaked with some custom ROMs.

lvnatic said:
Old phone already, I doubt that even gingerbread will be availabe as an OTA update, not even mentioning sense 2.0 because of the low internal memory.
So,
Cons: old device, probably no more support from htc, probably no ginger and most likely no sense 2.0 and custom ROMs with it will never be smooth
Pros: overall a decent phone, satisfied with it but very pissed on the HTC support
The battery is not an issue, you can easily get 2 days out of it if used with knowledge and tweaked with some custom ROMs.
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There might be sense 2.0. However due to the small internal memory, HTC might limit it (less features installed on phone etc.) And gingerbread should come out before they stop support.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

I listed battery life as a con because friends with samsung android phones can get more life from their battery. I do agree that all smartphones suffer from short battery life, but i think the HTC sense-based phones are a bit worse than others in this space.
I'm not sure HTCSense.com is a big deal. Apps like WaveSecure or Lookout can do do online backup of data anyway, right? Are there other features of HTCSense.com that are note-worthy?

lvnatic said:
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So,
Cons: old device, probably no more support from htc, probably no ginger and most likely no sense 2.0 and custom ROMs with it will never be smooth
Pros: overall a decent phone, satisfied with it but very pissed on the HTC support
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Not true - i use coolexe HD v5 ROM (sense 2) which fits as a whole in the internal memory. This ROM - to me - is as fast and snappy as the original ROM. Couldn't believe it by myself when i tried it first...
And HTC is the best company when it comes to supporting it's devices. See Sony and Motorola fiasko... Shure, they won't support it forever, but community is great and if you are willing to "play" with it, it will last even longer.
Only thing i would complain about Desire is, that it doesn't have a "real" multitouch display - though pinch to zoom is working flawless. For me, it's a near perfect device - more than any other device - even until now.

Thanks guys i appreciate all the comments. Im fairly sure my friends will be getting this phone. It sounds very very similar to my incredible
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hudl said:
Not true - i use coolexe HD v5 ROM (sense 2) which fits as a whole in the internal memory. This ROM - to me - is as fast and snappy as the original ROM. Couldn't believe it by myself when i tried it first...
And HTC is the best company when it comes to supporting it's devices. See Sony and Motorola fiasko... Shure, they won't support it forever, but community is great and if you are willing to "play" with it, it will last even longer.
Only thing i would complain about Desire is, that it doesn't have a "real" multitouch display - though pinch to zoom is working flawless. For me, it's a near perfect device - more than any other device - even until now.
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Belive me, I have tried all of the Desire HD/Z ports available, even since november when they started to show up. I have tried all kinds of tweaks, some of them that you haven't even heard of probably. Ext2 which is supposed to be faster, ext4 without journal, ext partition alignment, ownhere's data2ext version (2ext partitions), patched sqlite, overclock, undervolted kernel + overclock, I even bought a class 6 card especially for this. I always rolled back to leedroid. Belive me, I have tried them all, they are still ports not optimized for desire and never will run smoothly.
I really have hopes for gingerbread, but for sense 2.0, no chance.

I have my Desire for just over a week now and i must say i really love it!
But then again i came from the LG Arena (KM900) which is just an awfull phone, so my opion might not be the most objective.. i never had another Android phone before..
I did some research before getting mine at the beginning of 2011, and the Desire being almost a year old, even then alot of sites still rate the original Desire in their top 5, most sites (in europe) compare it with the iPhone4, Samsung Galaxy S, and HTC's own Desire HD. i really liked the 3.7" screen size, the 4" on the HD & Galaxy S (with the same resolution as the 3,7") are just too big for me..
and actually the Desire being almost a year old was actually a great selling point for me. Last time i had to choose a new phone i wanted the top notch, and that was right before LG came out with the Arena, they made it look as the perfect and best phone ever.. (the other options at that time being phones with WM6.5 or iPhone..) but man was i disappointed. So this time around i did some better research , and a phone being almost a year old but still being rated that high couldn't be a misser! Also with such a big community behind it i knew there would be lots of 'of road' stuff to try with it... (but that could be true for most android phones..)
Then there was the rumour of HTC new line up coming soon, but hey new phones come out all the time, and you can't wait forever.. anyway my contract with vodafone would end pretty soon and i had to act fast..
but like i said before, i'm really happy with it. I'm a linux fan and pretty well educated in IT so started messing with it the second day i got it , rooted it, installed several different mods just to try them out.. i'm still amazed what's possible with it.. (today i tried the 'PicMe' app for the first time, which let you view and control the device through any browser.. amazing)
anyway very happy it and i'm sure you're friend would be too...
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and to react on all the cons noted above:
battery live is what i expected from talking to friends owning android phones (and iPhones for that matter..), i just hook it up to the recharger every night anyway... but mostly end up with 30-40% left and the end of the day , and im using it pretty intense atm, just trying out new stuff all day long
and mods not being smooth : I'm running CM7 now, with data2sd mod and its running perfectly smooth for me (with the stock SD).. but might get a faster (&bigger) SD one day, but no complaints from me at all..

lvnatic said:
Belive me, I have tried all of the Desire HD/Z ports available, even since november when they started to show up. I have tried all kinds of tweaks, some of them that you haven't even heard of probably. Ext2 which is supposed to be faster, ext4 without journal, ext partition alignment, ownhere's data2ext version (2ext partitions), patched sqlite, overclock, undervolted kernel + overclock, I even bought a class 6 card especially for this. I always rolled back to leedroid. Belive me, I have tried them all, they are still ports not optimized for desire and never will run smoothly.
I really have hopes for gingerbread, but for sense 2.0, no chance.
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Oh, i believe you of course. And, really, i don't know why the same phone reacts so different for different people. But for me, i found my winner - and it's sense 2!
I have no lags after unlocking the screen, scrolling in long lists, switching the tasks or whatsoever. I have no cause to go back to sense 1. Leedroid wasn't stable for me as wasn't RCMixHD. I think everyone has to test it by him/herself what's the best ROM - but hey, that's why we are on Android and not iOS, right?

lvnatic said:
Old phone already, I doubt that even gingerbread will be availabe as an OTA update, not even mentioning sense 2.0 because of the low internal memory.
So,
Cons: old device, probably no more support from htc, probably no ginger and most likely no sense 2.0 and custom ROMs with it will never be...
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HTC confirmed the GB update & Sense 2 for it. ATM using sense 2 with a custom ROM, and if you know-how, a custom ROM can be faster&smother than the stock. At least in my case is.
Sent from my customized HTC Desire using TTP

My Pro & Cons views on HTC Desire
Pros: Decent screen size, LED flash, variety of ROMs after flashing making it rather silly not to flash , Flashing solves quite a number of problems. My 'light' usage normally drops to 30-40% near the end of the day but flashing a good kernel manage to keep it up to 60s . Decent speakers.
Cons:
a)Low int memory (Solvable by flashing- you need to know the difference. )
b)Low batt life (This is such a cheap comment I don't even consider it as a con and neither should you, I don't get why some losers keep trolling about practically ALL the smartphones just because they weren't designed to last that long or maybe they didn't put such a big battery for a reason. Pregnant smartphones...)
c)Hot when using phone while charging. (Not sure if it is a general issue)
d)Difficult back cover. (If no protection, the plastic lens is sitting on table and supposably it's a bad thing. More exposed to scratches and can ruin shots)
Hard to open as well if no nails (mine has scratches lol I got no nails)
e) Proprietary micro usb charger is not covered. Glhf with dust if you work in a dirty area (with lotta dust)
f) Power button extremely easy to press. Over-sensitive. (Solvable by reducing screen off timer by 15s or so, if you use a good rom, it lets you go lower for lock-screens )
g) Wifi reception is weak. (Tested with a friend's N8, has 2 bar while I got none, has full bar while I have 2-3 -_-, I changed a lot of radios, difference never really hit more than over a bar)
h) Idk why they put speakers at the back, srsly. Lol.
i) tbc

While waiting for Sensation, Desire or DHD?

So here's the plan:
I am getting the Sensation once it's rooted and price is 600$ and less, so I guess July?
In the waiting period I want to have fun with an htc device with plenty of roms, I still don't know if I get a Desire or DHD, so if you can help me:
-Which one has a louder speaker for ringtones?
-Better screen under sunlight?
-Overall quality/design
-Battery life?
I am afraid of the DHD weight while it's just 30g more
Also buying it will cost 100$ more but reselling in 2 month?

The DHD has the better screen, but lower battery life. But with a costume kernel you can safe battery. I have a Desire and I'm not dissapointed. But why can't you wait until august?
Btw: I think the DHD has louder speakers...

m33-snk said:
The DHD has the better scKreen, but lower battery life.
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Bigger doesn't actually mean better. DHD has the same SLCD screen as Desire packed with the same resolution on 0.5" larger screen, which gives greater dot pitch which is never a good thing in the terms of image quality.
For the battery life I would consider them roughly equal, despite the larger screen DHD has more energy efficient hardware.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk

surely the fact you can pick up a Desire cheaper is better in the short term?
although waiting would be the best option imo

Already sold the Arc!
I am going to the mobile shop after lunch, I will see if the DHD is too big and heavy or not, if it's too much for me I will pick a Desire, as simple as that
I have a slight preference for DHD because I am afraid the Desire will be a sort of return to my old device (N1) so perhaps little boring while the DHD has some upgraded hardwares and Sense 3.0 weather rom
Even for 1.5/2 months

vegetaleb said:
Already sold the Arc!
I am going to the mobile shop after lunch, I will see if the DHD is too big and heavy or not, if it's too much for me I will pick a Desire, as simple as that
I have a slight preference for DHD because I am afraid the Desire will be a sort of return to my old device (N1) so perhaps little boring while the DHD has some upgraded hardwares and Sense 3.0 weather rom
Even for 1.5/2 months
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I'd choose none of those lol...if you really can't wait i'd recommend a nexus s, dhd has a decent cpu but the gpu still is quite suckish even compared to the one the sgs packs.
Btw, looks like the sgs II will own the sensation big time, plus it has unlocked bootloader and it has been rooted already...

I got the desire and the DHD and I have to say desire is better to use cos you can in fact use it with one hand. 0.6 inches really makes a difference.
The screen on dhd just looks like a stretched desire to me. I installed the DHD rom on my desire and a 32 gig card with a 4 gig ext and basically, no issues whatsoever.
so i sold my dhd and got an ipod touch and glued it to the back of my desire!

If it is only for waiting..Desire should be your solution.
Desire is still a good phone and it is cheap especially the second handed ones.....and..who knows you can still found the old one with AMOLED....
Or the newer white one...
Sent from HTC desire with InsertCoin 2.0.1 Data2EXT

what about a Desire S?

raheeljessa;
...The screen on dhd just looks like a stretched desire to me. I installed the DHD rom on my desire and a 32 gig card with a 4 gig ext and basically said:
which ROM is it? where can I find detailed instructions to do that?
coz that's exactly what I want to do with my Desire (as I hv to wait appr 1 year until my contract expires).
Sent from my unrooted, non-branded ie untouched HTC Desire on official froyo, using XDA App
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iLHaNroID said:
which ROM is it? where can I find detailed instructions to do that?
coz that's exactly what I want to do with my Desire (as I hv to wait appr 1 year until my contract expires).
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There are plenty of ROMs such as InsertCoin, RCmixHD, etc.
Instruction? Just like any other custom ROMs.
I recommend InsertCoin Data2Ext or InsertCoin Data++.
I am using InsertCoin Data2Ext and still not tempted to try others at the moment, it is the best I have till now ('ve tried LeeDroids, MIUI, RCmixHD, etc.)
I am now waiting an 100% working, relatively bug-free, and stable Android 2.3 new-Sense ROM.

One great advantage of the DHD is that HTC started the rollout for official Gingerbread for the DHD!

Bought a DHD!
I don't regret a sec
Great roms for that great device, I am getting 2200 pts in quadrant when I had 1400 max with Nexus one

ill sell u my htc desire unlocked if u want

Should I buy a Desire?

Hi guys,
I've got a htc wildfire and I'd like to upgrade it to something better. Desire fits my price range but I have some doubts.
A lot of htc phones share a common grounding problem. When you put your phone in a car cradle/holder or on a soft surface like sofa or pillow screen does not respond as it should. Please check the videos;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s30h7Uh6-CI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbIrdQ3ejDI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss81Y124GeY#t=50s
(if you use 2 fingers it won't be a problem as your second finger will be completing the ground circuit. but it is quite dangerous to use your both hands to click on a battery warning box while riding a motorbike)
I use my phone as a satnav a lot. So it would be a major issue for me if you guys phones suffer the same issue.
Could you guys just try it on a pillow/cushion for me please?
Cheers

Never had that issue, that's some b0rked handsets dude, maybe they were dry or whatever.
Well about buying Desire, if you will Root it then it's surely worth it.

in my opinion, desire it's really outdated now
if you can, better go for the desire s, it is going to replace the desire "original"
i never saw that issues on my desire..

I cant replicate that bug, as suggested above that phone must me broken.
Desire is a bit old now but still a good device with lots of dev support here, many roms to choose from.
Downsides...battery will last a day if your lucky, limited internal memory, no multitouch (dual touch only).
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

I can only confirm that the grounding bug is not a common issue. My old (AMOLED) desire does not have it. Since the whole back of desire is made from removable soft-plastic cover, I see no reason why this can be (other than liquid damage).
About buying a Desire today, its worth it IF you can find original AMOLED version. If you get SLCD version, then its better to go with either Incredible S or Desire S. Avoid Desire HD since the screen on that one is very poor quality (color and contrasts are very weak).

Never heard of such issue on the original Desire. Not sure about S, but other HTC phones have that issue, yes. Desire is a good phone, very good actually, by be prepared to learn about a2sd+ or CM7 hboot if you want to install more than a handful of apps. If you don't want to root, then go for desire s.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA App

calyxim said:
Hi guys,
I've got a htc wildfire and I'd like to upgrade it to something better.
Cheers
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Going from Wildfire -> Desire (even SLCD) is going to be a HUGE improvement. So if price of Desire S/Incredible S is way more, then go for it. Desire should be a good improvement.
Main downside with Desire:
Battery will be weaker compared to wildfire.
GPU performance is not on par with current phones (Desire S etc are much faster). But still better than wildfire!
All other issues can be solved with root/custom ROM.

asestar said:
Main downside with Desire:
Battery will be weaker compared to wildfire.
GPU performance is not on par with current phones (Desire S etc are much faster). But still better than wildfire!
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How can u compare battery life of Desire and Wildfire?
Wildfire: 3,2" screen with 240x320 res, 384mb RAM, cpu 528mhz
Desire: 3,7" screen 480x800, 576mb RAM, cpu 1GHZ
It's obvious that wildfire might have better battery life since it's **** phone, lol.
And tbh 1 day of heavy use with smartphone is not a bad result, those phones are made for it. If you want 1 week battery life buy Nokia 3310.

Compared to Wildfire Desire's memory is huge
I can overcome battery issue by buying 3 spare chinese batteries for peanuts as I did before for my wildfire. (touch wood they are still strong after 5 months)
There is only one amoled Desire on ebay which is a bit overpriced. (200 pounds)
Thanks for the heads up guys. I'll keep digging...

k3lcior said:
How can u compare battery life of Desire and Wildfire?
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Simply by how many hours you can use a phone while staying away from a cable
I know they have vastly different hardware, but come on. If you are used to 2-3 days on 1 charge, having to charge every night is gonna be something you will need to get used to.
I remember having around 2 days battery life with my Desire last year when 2.2 upgrade came (some time in september/october). So battery age can also be an issue.

calyxim said:
Compared to Wildfire Desire's memory is huge
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Im not sure about that, because the free memory available is only 140 mb to install apps (the rest of the memory is occupied by the rom itself)

But that is solved by root and app2sd/data2sd rom. I got 78mb free + 350mb on ext3 SD, making me never worry about space.
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda premium

I have the Desire and my other half has the Wildfire. I'm sure if you went from the Wildfire to the Desire you would be happy. As others have said, the Desire might not be bleeding edge now (but it is far from "outdated"). There are plenty of ROM's to choose from if you don't get on with the standard. I also have not experienced any touch screen weirdness - I have even used my desire on my motorbike in that past without problem.
You certainly could do worse.

Nice option!
With all the support this device is getting from devs?thats more than enough for you to consider.
But sorry, i dont have a bike.lol
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Desire.....Its rather hot when its working, and the poor battery life... wait for some better options.

I have my Desire for 2 years almost and I am very happy with it. The memory issue is easy to bypass with some custom ROM.
But TODAY I would not buy the Desire as it is a little outdated. Yes I would stick to HTC any day and go for the Desire S or the Sensation. But then again, it is your choice and you budget

Oh yes. Desire is a great phone, really powerful, and in late 2011, it's a much cheaper choice than a Sensation for example (which seems to be the top), I suggest you to buy a second hand Desire, root it and use custom roms, I haven't done it yet, but I used my friends Desire for a day, which had a custom rom with Gingerbread, and it was smooth as silk.
so, I wouldn't call it outdated yet. less powerful than the new ones? true.

I would suggest Desire as
1.its much cheaper than Sensation
2.it would take time for the dual core phones to reach to their full potential
3.only few games require dual core
4.you can run sense 3.0 and 3.5 sense roms which run very smoothly
5.it is widely supported by devs
I believe Desire will never be outdated

Go for it, desire has a great dev community too
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I'm sorry for jacking the thread, but the noob video said to do that right ?
I'm in the same boat as the OP, current HTC wildfire owner, and sick to death of it. My main problem is the slowness and cr*p screen.
So anyway, I've been looking for an update, and i'm strongly leaning towards the desire. I can get it for 300 eur, and maybe I can sell my wildfire for 50-100 to some poor sod cruel. The desire S is 399, which is a tad high but *might* be considered if it's really deemed that much faster.
I just want a cellphone with a good screen and better text input (the wildfire's screen is way too small for texting efficiently), which is a reason why i'm leaning towards the desire Z (with keyboard). I know it's not as powerful as the other desire models, but still.
Custom rome are a requirement. Maybe not right away, but if i find something I don't like i'd like to be able to change it.
I can go on for a while like this, so i'll KISS, phone requirements:
- good screen (big enough, resolution)
- GPS (doesn't have to be state of the art, it just has to have a radio)
- Bluetooth
- Good input method (implies a larger screen or, preferably a hard press keyboard)
- I prefer hard buttons on the bottom instead of touch ones; i won't press them by accident (= annoying on wildfire)
- Responsive
- Not too expensive
I don't care about anything else, so the GPU makes no real difference to me i think, unless it really helps with anything besides games. Are any of the desire series a good match or would I be better off sticking with the wildfire until i can get something high budget ?

[Q] hTC Desire or hTC One V - that is a question

I'm proud owner of both hTC Desire and hTC One V. I rooted and s-offed Desire some time ago, tried variety of ROMs and currently using it as daily driver with Evervolvs KitKat nightly installed.
I bought HOV as a replacement for my old Desire and was badly suprised when HOV started to lag. Placing a call or starting an SMS sometimes takes up to 2 minutes. Using it on daily basis is near to imposible. I didn't think of rooting HOV since I still have warranty. Now I changed my mind, which brings me to my question.
Should I go with that and root, etc. , or should I stick with Desire, which currently works more fluid than HOV? Will HOV get that much better with custom ROM, or should I just sell it and forget it? Any opinion is appreciated. Thanks.

uriah18 said:
I'm proud owner of both hTC Desire and hTC One V. I rooted and s-offed Desire some time ago, tried variety of ROMs and currently using it as daily driver with Evervolvs KitKat nightly installed.
I bought HOV as a replacement for my old Desire and was badly suprised when HOV started to lag. Placing a call or starting an SMS sometimes takes up to 2 minutes. Using it on daily basis is near to imposible. I didn't think of rooting HOV since I still have warranty. Now I changed my mind, which brings me to my question.
Should I go with that and root, etc. , or should I stick with Desire, which currently works more fluid than HOV? Will HOV get that much better with custom ROM, or should I just sell it and forget it? Any opinion is appreciated. Thanks.
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HOV is better with a custom ROM.. the stock One V ROM is slow at times... it's one of the reasons why I rooted

@MameTozhio has right. My One V was really slow and I rooted it when it has 1 year and 3 months. Now this phone is really smooth and really fast but don't use ROMs like mySensev because it's like stock slow but really pretty(animations etc, full sense)

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Minto107 said:
@MameTozhio has right. My One V was really slow and I rooted it when it has 1 year and 3 months. Now this phone is really smooth and really fast but don't use ROMs like mySensev because it's like stock slow but really pretty(animations etc, full sense)
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I was thinking about Shpongle or NexusPrimo?

Go for NexusPrino
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uriah18 said:
I was thinking about Shpongle or NexusPrimo?
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Really good ROMs are:
Sense
Ignorance V4(V3 is good too better battery life)
HTCdroid(Really pretty and fast)
AOSP
Shpongle
NexusPrimo
ParanoidAndroid(AOSPA)
Upcoming:
TrippedOutROM(4.2.2) Really stable fast smooth WiFi doesn't work

The problem with the One V is ram. You can be using something like slim bean completely stripped down to the bare minimum of system applications and data apps and it still fails on you. Just use the stock browser on one or two pages and the entire device will freeze up requiring a reboot. Horrible. In truth we need a way to move many apps out of the system partition to either true sd or at the very least to the data partition. And I do not suggest anyone purchase virgin mobiles version of the htc desire unless you want the same issues again. Best off buying something else.

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The problem with the One V is ram. You can be using something like slim bean completely stripped down to the bare minimum of system applications and data apps and it still fails on you. Just use the stock browser on one or two pages and the entire device will freeze up requiring a reboot. Horrible. In truth we need a way to move many apps out of the system partition to either true sd or at the very least to the data partition. And I do not suggest anyone purchase virgin mobiles version of the htc desire unless you want the same issues again. Best off buying something else.
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But, as I understand, I can use some kind of SD-EXT to expand RAM? Or am I wrong? On Desire i have a2sd script and it is working like a charm..

uriah18 said:
But, as I understand, I can use some kind of SD-EXT to expand RAM? Or am I wrong? On Desire i have a2sd script and it is working like a charm..
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A2SD works. Expand RAM works for me. I've got 2GB of RAM now(32GB SD+64GB HDD disc connected to One V).