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Flashing ICS?

OK I get my device tomorrow and I'm so happy! I plan to root it and I just wanted to know if flashing an ICS can potentially harm the device? Say that I flash back to a GB rom will everything still be perfect and work? Thanks
Sorry for all the questions just want to be sure for my device's arrival!

Do a nandroid backup first and if something goes wrong you can allways restore the back up and voila everything working perfect again. I do it all the time

Any flash can potentially harm a device...like docmarioce stated nandroid first. You can always pull one of the GB recovery ROMs from the Dev forum to go completely back to GB.
I'd highly, highly recommend watching some of qbking77's youtube videos on flashing, he's done an amazing job putting these together.

^^^ yeah, QBKing is awesome!
Darrien13 said:
OK I get my device tomorrow and I'm so happy! I plan to root it and I just wanted to know if flashing an ICS can potentially harm the device? Say that I flash back to a GB rom will everything still be perfect and work? Thanks
Sorry for all the questions just want to be sure for my device's arrival!
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You have to Odin back to EL29 if you are on an ICS ROM and want to go back to GB.
Read, read, read before flashing any ROM
Enjoy your new phone!
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Don't use the recovery found on ANY ICS ROM. That means if you flash CM9, Calk's, Blendz, Venum (any ICS Rom leak), you will have ICS Rogue Repack Recovery which is known for BRICKING so many phones.
Note that, it's not the creator of the Rogue Recovery repack to blame, it is that Samsung is packing faulty kernels; Steady Hawkin, the creator, has even bricked his phone using his own tried and true methods. For some reason, the samsung kernels for ICS mess up the partitions on the phone when the recovery on an ICS leak is used.
So to sum things up.
1. DO NOT FLASH/WIPE/ RESTORE anything with the recovery repacked with the ICS leak ROMs.
2. If you want to flash, odin stock EL26 CWM.
(You might want to use the autoroot method by sfhub to install because odin'ing stuff gives you a yellow triangle on boot—Don't trust me on this, just a guess)
3. DO NOT FLASH/WIPE/RESTORE or even think of using the recovery found on any ICS ROM. Some CM9 users have bricked their phone simply by wiping cache on the recovery in CM9.
When you boot into recovery on an ICS ROM LEAK, and you see ROGUE, DO NOT FLASH/WIPE RESTORE! Run away!
My tone might be overexaggerated, but there have been many bricks reported on the CM9 dev thread here that I frequent. Those who used the rogue repack kernels found on ICS rom leaks instead of taking the safer route of odin'ing stock EL26 CWM and flashing/wiping/restoring on that, have bricked their phones.
CM9 thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1544233
More info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495
Be safe, and read read read.

Flashing ICS
I have successfully flashed a ICS ROM and then restored a backup to GB. This was before I was warned I have seen many of my friends hard brick there phone. I am waiting for a stable ICS ROM with a stable CWM.

Paden32 said:
I have successfully flashed a ICS ROM and then restored a backup to GB. This was before I was warned I have seen many of my friends hard brick there phone. I am waiting for a stable ICS ROM with a stable CWM.
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same here. i actually wiped everything and it didnt brick. works just fine now! GB >>>> ICS

Flashing ICS
I have been hearing from people that the official ICS rom comes out March 15 I hope it does cant wait.

Paden32 said:
I have been hearing from people that the official ICS rom comes out March 15 I hope it does cant wait.
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ICS is actually being pushed to the International version now in some places. I don't honestly thing we will see a March 15th date for us however (but hey I could be wrong)
As for Flashing ICS please read carefully there have been a ton of Bricks flashing ICS roms with ICS based kernels that have a recovery added to them. Your best bet honestly is to relax and chill read for awhile or a bit and when you feel confident in doing it then do so. My words for you ALWAYS keep Odin handy and if you do want to go back to a GB based rom then Odin a GB rom (like sfhub's EL29 Stock rooted) and push a GB based kernel with his auto root package.

Some people are lucky when using the ICS kernel recovery; in fact I am one of them . But eventually that luck will run out. I'm fortunate that I learned about its dangers before I could get a chance to brick my phone.

darkfire2024 said:
Some people are lucky when using the ICS kernel recovery; in fact I am one of them . But eventually that luck will run out. I'm fortunate that I learned about its dangers before I could get a chance to brick my phone.
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Yes some have been lucky this is true. But when I see one of our own devs Brick their device from doing it not just users (thought they do count as well) I tend to be on the safe side and give people the way not only myself but others have done things for flashing between different roms and have so far always been safe

Here is what worked for me...
Download stock rom for ics fc07
Download rogue stock fc07 kernel
Place both on external SD card
Use sfhub's one click root method
Use sfhub's clockwork method
Make a backup
Wipe everything and run calks format all zip
Flash the rom and kernel (and modem) in the same setting and ur gtg
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Would you guys recommend not flashing anything ICS?
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Darrien13 said:
Would you guys recommend not flashing anything ICS?
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I would say as long as you have Odin and take your time (whether its going to ICS or back to Gingerbread) then you will have no problems. If you want to be really safe, make it a rule that you flash ICS from a Gingerbread EL26 kernel w/CWM Recovery and if you want to flash something else once on ICS, Odin flash back to stock Gingerbread, Odin flash kernel with recovery and go from there. You can always PM me and I can shoot you links as well. Some people aren't having problems flashing from ICS w/ custom recovery but many have..including some devs
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Mobile odin??
Edit... Never mind
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How to?: GB to cyan9; cyan9 to GB.

I just need a link or some information on how to install cyanogenmod 9 from EL29, I'm currently running Calkulin's EL29 v3.0, and then I was wondering how do I come back from ICS without bricking?
I'd appreciate the response so i don't screw up my wonderful new phone! ^^
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Always check stickies.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495

Nabbu said:
I just need a link or some information on how to install cyanogenmod 9 from EL29, I'm currently running Calkulin's EL29 v3.0, and then I was wondering how do I come back from ICS without bricking?
I'd appreciate the response so i don't screw up my wonderful new phone! ^^
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http://e4gtcm.blogspot.com/p/cm9-install-guide.html?m=1
To go back to GB just flash the EL26 kernel with CWM through Odin. When rebooting hold power + volume up until it boots into recovery and flash from there.
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FYI - OP on the CM9 page for the rom the very first post has it notated that for the CM9 install guide which is the link that has been posted above. I commend you on being careful but just so you know this forum has more than enough info in it to ensure you do everything correct and minimize your chances of bricking..
http://e4gtcm.blogspot.com/p/cm9-install-guide.html?m=1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1504808
Just a few links which have helped me stay away from issues to date..

nitro_c4 said:
http://e4gtcm.blogspot.com/p/cm9-install-guide.html?m=1
To go back to GB just flash the EL26 kernel with CWM through Odin. When rebooting hold power + volume up until it boots into recovery and flash from there.
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I've heard to odin just the el26 kernel + cwm and also the whole el26 rom before flashing ICS, more specifically the AOsP variations so which is it? Or which is safer? It would kind of make sense to Odin the whole rom to restore a gb nandroid. There's just so many conflicting methods its cornfuzzling
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
I've heard to odin just the el26 kernel + cwm and also the whole el26 rom before flashing ICS, more specifically the AOsP variations so which is it? Or which is safer? It would kind of make sense to Odin the whole rom to restore a gb nandroid. There's just so many conflicting methods its cornfuzzling
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No not really conflicting if you look at them slowly. Its basically get back to a GB kernel at the end of the day. They say to odin it since you do not want to or have any other way to get a GB kernel on your phone if you are on ICS. Now you could flash from ICS but that is what people are trying to avoid since it could cause a brick.
Basically: When on ICS
1. Odin a GB CWM recovery(now others have used EL29 and Rogue recoveries as well) I personally use a stock CWM recovery from CM7 and Miui
2. From there you can wipe and flash and do nandroids as normal.
Option: Safest bet
1. One Click Odin your choice of any of the GB stock roms by sfhub
I have used both methods so far with no problems. I had CM9 on my phone then used odin to go back to the recovery used with CM7 and then I nandroid back my UnNamed Rom. I did this a few times without issue. I have never heard of any issues with anyone using any of the above two methods I mentioned. If someone has please inform us

playya said:
No not really conflicting if you look at them slowly. Its basically get back to a GB kernel at the end of the day. They say to odin it since you do not want to or have any other way to get a GB kernel on your phone if you are on ICS. Now you could flash from ICS but that is what people are trying to avoid since it could cause a brick.
Basically: When on ICS
1. Odin a GB CWM recovery(now others have used EL29 and Rogue recoveries as well) I personally use a stock CWM recovery from CM7 and Miui
2. From there you can wipe and flash and do nandroids as normal.
Option: Safest bet
1. One Click Odin your choice of any of the GB stock roms by sfhub
I have used both methods so far with no problems. I had CM9 on my phone then used odin to go back to the recovery used with CM7 and then I nandroid back my UnNamed Rom. I did this a few times without issue. I have never heard of any issues with anyone using any of the above two methods I mentioned. If someone has please inform us
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I was more confused about whether to Odin(mobileodin) just the kernel + cwm or the entire rom, all the install instructions say Odin kernel with cwm(usually el26) which is what I'm using for ics, I use rogue gunslinger for GB, but then I've seen ppl say to Odin the entire rom before restoring/upgrading/changing roms so i was like
Wtf which is it do I Odin the kernel or the whole rom when i upgrade :-| I've been trying to figure that out for a cpl days b4 I upgrade my AOKP to build 31, cuz I really don't want a paperweight
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
I was more confused about whether to Odin(mobileodin) just the kernel + cwm or the entire rom, all the install instructions say Odin kernel with cwm(usually el26) which is what I'm using for ics, I use rogue gunslinger for GB, but then I've seen ppl say to Odin the entire rom before restoring/upgrading/changing roms so i was like
Wtf which is it do I Odin the kernel or the whole rom when i upgrade :-| I've been trying to figure that out for a cpl days b4 I upgrade my AOKP to build 31, cuz I really don't want a paperweight
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I've searched around and I don't know how to just odin a kernel, so I use sfhubs one-click back to el26 then I use autoroot to install el26 +cwm.
I would like to just odin a kernel and flash from there, but i am unsure of the procedure, do you do this:
phone to download mode and connect to odin, use PDA slot and browse to kernel, hit start or GO or whatever it is, then when it starts to reboot, pwr+vlm up to get into recovery, then get my flash on from there?

I use mobile Odin for the kernel alone but I believe in PC Odin you can just select PDA and choose the kernel. Tar and flash it that way then when it starts to reboot either catch the volume up + power on the splash screen or do like I do and snatch the battery real quick and the boot to recovery, everytime I try to hit it while its rebooting Im too slow
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
I use mobile Odin for the kernel alone but I believe in PC Odin you can just select PDA and choose the kernel. Tar and flash it that way then when it starts to reboot either catch the volume up + power on the splash screen or do like I do and snatch the battery real quick and the boot to recovery, everytime I try to hit it while its rebooting Im too slow
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I havent used mobile odin, but I hear nothing but good things, so I think I am gonna grab it and try it out. That way I wont need to be at a PC to get my flash on.
With mobile odin, do I keep the kernel on my sdcard, same place I put roms and such? And when using mobile odin, if the file is *.tar.md5, do I remove the .md5 from the file name first? Do I use the flash firmware option?

I've done this at least 25 times recently; so easy, I'll post instructions here again.
1. get Mobile Odin(time saver to the max)
2. Get EL26 kernel (TAR version)
3. flash EL26 kernel in Mobile Odin (takes 10 seconds)
4. Boot into recovery(you will have the proper one now!)
5. Flash away
if you do this either coming from A GB rom to ICS, or going back to one, Guaranteed success...
Simple as can be; not sure why this keeps getting asked.....
The kernel is 8.1 mb, which exceeds the attachment size, so I can't post it here, but its all over this forum..

krook250 said:
I havent used mobile odin, but I hear nothing but good things, so I think I am gonna grab it and try it out. That way I wont need to be at a PC to get my flash on.
With mobile odin, do I keep the kernel on my sdcard, same place I put roms and such? And when using mobile odin, if the file is *.tar.md5, do I remove the .md5 from the file name first? Do I use the flash firmware option?
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Yea u can keep em in a folder on internal SD that's what I do and just open the location it will find all tar files in that location then just select and follow directions, mOdin works really good its quick and no flash counter in crease or yellow triangle. Its alot easier to flash ics than having to go to the PC cuz u can just Odin el26+cwm kernel boot to recovery and get ur flash on without all the hassle of drivers and connecting a USB etc
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
Yea u can keep em in a folder on internal SD that's what I do and just open the location it will find all tar files in that location then just select and follow directions, mOdin works really good its quick and no flash counter in crease or yellow triangle. Its alot easier to flash ics than having to go to the PC cuz u can just Odin el26+cwm kernel boot to recovery and get ur flash on without all the hassle of drivers and connecting a USB etc
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sweet thanks, gonna grab the app and go grab the kernel as well. can't wait!!!
If I just cut my 30 min. flashing time down to 10 mins, that means I can flash 3x more, frick yeah!! Now I just need the new cna to drop so I can flash that girl.

wase4711 said:
I've done this at least 25 times recently; so easy, I'll post instructions here again.
1. get Mobile Odin(time saver to the max)
2. Get EL26 kernel (TAR version)
3. flash EL26 kernel in Mobile Odin (takes 10 seconds)
4. Boot into recovery(you will have the proper one now!)
5. Flash away
if you do this either coming from A GB rom to ICS, or going back to one, Guaranteed success...
Simple as can be; not sure why this keeps getting asked.....
The kernel is 8.1 mb, which exceeds the attachment size, so I can't post it here, but its all over this forum..
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My question was for when going back to gb from ics if I needed to Odin the whole rom, I had seen both kernel+cwm only and whole rom and just wanted to make sure if I just flashed the kernel only I'd be OK more for clarification than an actual how to for me since I know how to Odin both, just wanted to make sure I was odining the right things b4 I jumped and landed on a brick after I had seen someone say to Odin the whole rom I wanted to be sure I was doing it right since I had seen both ways mentioned. Its a little more confusing than my damn evo where I'm always on the same recovery no matter what, and a bit scary with the bricks flying around like a construction site filled with monkeys on meth
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
My question was for when going back to gb from ics if I needed to Odin the whole rom, I had seen both kernel+cwm only and whole rom and just wanted to make sure if I just flashed the kernel only I'd be OK more for clarification than an actual how to for me since I know how to Odin both, just wanted to make sure I was odining the right things b4 I jumped and landed on a brick after I had seen someone say to Odin the whole rom I wanted to be sure I was doing it right since I had seen both ways mentioned. Its a little more confusing than my damn evo where I'm always on the same recovery no matter what, and a bit scary with the bricks flying around like a construction site filled with monkeys on meth
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[email protected] monkeys on Meth!!!
Yeah, flashing with this phone is different from the htc stuff, but once you get the hang of it, its just as easy!

wase4711 said:
[email protected] monkeys on Meth!!!
Yeah, flashing with this phone is different from the htc stuff, but once you get the hang of it, its just as easy!
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Yea ur post cleared it up for me, just gets confusing when. Theres multiple methods recommended I was 99% sure I just needed to Odin the kernel only but wanted the clarification before I jumped off that bridge, not too comfortable jumping off a bridge when I'm not sure how deep the water is
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well, like the asshole who pushed me in the deep end of the pool when I was 12 and didn't know how to swim told me, "figure it out or else", sometimes you gotta just go for it!!
Actually, I am nervous too when I try something new the first time, but, once you figure out who really knows what they are talking about, its easy to just pm them and ask them how they do it..
You obviously know your stuff man, so you will be an expert with this phone in no time!!

I did this going from Blazer 4.1 to CM9 with out any issues.
wase4711 said:
I've done this at least 25 times recently; so easy, I'll post instructions here again.
1. get Mobile Odin(time saver to the max)
2. Get EL26 kernel (TAR version)
3. flash EL26 kernel in Mobile Odin (takes 10 seconds)
4. Boot into recovery(you will have the proper one now!)
5. Flash away
if you do this either coming from A GB rom to ICS, or going back to one, Guaranteed success...
Simple as can be; not sure why this keeps getting asked.....
The kernel is 8.1 mb, which exceeds the attachment size, so I can't post it here, but its all over this forum..
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Quick question.. I can flash EL26 kernel again in mobile odin and should be able to restore my Blazer backup without any issues, correct? Blazer was backed up using Rogue EL29 kernel. Thanks!

Plus there's 5 android devices in my house all with different flashing methods it gets confusing keeping em all straight, got the evo4g, et4g, kindle fire, MoPho, and a gNote the et4g is the first Sammy I've used with Odin, my first android was an intercrap I mean intercept and it used the patched swupdater instead of Odin, so I'm still getting the hang of this method. I can flash the evo, kindle, intercept and photon blindfolded and drunker than a slut on prom night
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Nico^APEX said:
I did this going from Blazer 4.1 to CM9 with out any issues.
Quick question.. I can flash EL26 kernel again in mobile odin and should be able to restore my Blazer backup without any issues, correct? Blazer was backed up using Rogue EL29 kernel. Thanks!
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yes sir, that is correct!
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
Plus there's 5 android devices in my house all with different flashing methods it gets confusing keeping em all straight, got the evo4g, et4g, kindle fire, MoPho, and a gNote the et4g is the first Sammy I've used with Odin, my first android was an intercrap I mean intercept and it used the patched swupdater instead of Odin, so I'm still getting the hang of this method. I can flash the evo, kindle, intercept and photon blindfolded and drunker than a slut on prom night
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I don't know how you keep all that **** straight; in my house, we ALL go with one "brand" of product, just to avoid that nightmare!!
If someone doesn't like it, I tell them that they get no tech support from me if they don't go with "the flow"!

Just got an Epic Touch

Need to brush up on my vocabulary.
-odin
-modem
Best tutorial for custom recovery?
Currently stock rooted. EL29? Idk what that means either.
Coming from an htc evo 3d.
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eyeisdasteve said:
Need to brush up on my vocabulary.
-odin
-modem
Best tutorial for custom recovery?
Currently stock rooted. EL29? Idk what that means either.
Coming from an htc evo 3d.
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Brush up on vocabulary by reading everything in the forums here .... El29 is the last GB ota .... Please read and really understand before doing anything like flashing ics on the phone or you will run a good chance of bricking ....have fun learning and be safe this is nothing like a HTC
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Epix4G said:
Brush up on vocabulary by reading everything in the forums here .... El29 is the last GB ota .... Please read and really understand before doing anything like flashing ics on the phone or you will run a good chance of bricking ....have fun learning and be safe this is nothing like a HTC
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Haha. I noticed.
Figured someone could explain what the odin and modem was tho.
Ill poke around.
And try not to brick. I have a usb jig on the way. So im not crazy worried.
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eyeisdasteve said:
Need to brush up on my vocabulary.
-odin
-modem
Best tutorial for custom recovery?
Currently stock rooted. EL29? Idk what that means either.
Coming from an htc evo 3d.
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Odin is a program used to flash recoveries/kernels, roms (usually just stock roms), and modems. There's an open source alternative called Heimdall that works well too. you can purchase Mobile Odin from the Play Store if you want to flash kernels directly from your phone. This makes it convenient when you cant or dont feel like using Odin on your computer to flash a new recovery onto your phone. ALWAYS USE **PDA** SLOT FOR RECOVERIES/KERNELS/ROMS. ALWAYS USE **PHONE** SLOT FOR MODEMS. Odin/Heimdall DO NOT flash .zip files. They only flash .tar files (kernels/roms) and .bin files (modems). Again, ALWAYS USE **PDA** SLOT FOR RECOVERIES/KERNELS/ROMS. ALWAYS USE **PHONE** SLOT FOR MODEMS.
Modem is the radio. Kernel versions dont have to match the modem version. You can be on kernel EL29 but still have a modem of FD16, and vise versa. Some people have better luck with the latest modems, some people have better luck with older modems. Your mileage may vary.
As for recoveries, they are always (always) packaged and flashed with a kernel. This is how Samsung does business (at least on most of their phones). Some kernels include a custom recovery, others dont. As of now, no ICS kernel comes with a custom recovery (actually this statement might not be accurate now that i think about it). Whenever you flash an ICS rom (which comes prepackaged with a kernel), you will always lose your recovery. No bigs, just Odin a kernel (ALWAYS USE **PDA** SLOT FOR KERNELS/ROMS. ALWAYS USE **PHONE** SLOT FOR MODEMS.) that includes a custom recovery (the most popular one is EL26 with CMW [search for it]). Most roms you encounter will be flashed through Recovery. If it's a .zip file, it's flashed in Recovery.
"Currently stock rooted" means you're on a stock rom that's rooted.
"EL29" most likely refers to the kernel that is packaged in the rom, but it can refer to your modem version too. The first letter represents the year; the second letter represents the month; the number represents the date of the month the kernel/modem was built.
E = year (2011)
L = month (December)
29 = date (29th, hurrrrrr)
So if someone's modem is FD19, that means:
F = 2012
D = April
19 = 19th
All ICS kernels begin with F because all ICS kernels were leaked/released in 2012. All GB kernels begin with E because they were all released in 2011.
The last stock rom/OTA released by Samsung was EL29. There have been some Samsung ICS leaks however; they range from FB## - FD##.

cnstarz said:
Odin is a program used to flash recoveries/kernels, roms, and modems. There's an open source alternative called Heimdall that works well too. you can purchase Mobile Odin from the Play Store if you want to flash kernels directly from your phone. This makes it convenient when you cant or dont feel like using Odin on your computer to flash a new recovery onto your phone. ALWAYS USE **PDA** SLOT FOR RECOVERIES/KERNELS/ROMS. ALWAYS USE **PHONE** SLOT FOR MODEMS. Odin/Heimdall DO NOT flash .zip files. They only flash .tar files (kernels/roms) and .bin files (modems). Again, ALWAYS USE **PDA** SLOT FOR RECOVERIES/KERNELS/ROMS. ALWAYS USE **PHONE** SLOT FOR MODEMS.
Modem is the radio. Kernel versions dont have to match the modem version. You can be on kernel EL29 but still have a modem of FD16, and vise versa. Some people have better luck with the latest modems, some people have better luck with older modems. Your mileage may vary.
As for recoveries, they are always (always) packaged and flashed with a kernel. This is how Samsung does business (at least on most of their phones). Some kernels include a custom recovery, others dont. As of now, no ICS kernel comes with a custom recovery (actually this statement might not be accurate now that i think about it). Whenever you flash an ICS rom (which comes prepackaged with a kernel), you will always lose your recovery. No bigs, just Odin a kernel (ALWAYS USE **PDA** SLOT FOR KERNELS/ROMS. ALWAYS USE **PHONE** SLOT FOR MODEMS.) that includes a custom recovery (the most popular one is EL26 with CMW [search for it]).
"Currently stock rooted" means you're on a stock rom that's rooted.
"EL29" most likely refers to the kernel that is packaged in the rom, but it can refer to your modem version too. The first letter represents the year; the second letter represents the month; the number represents the date of the month the kernel/modem was built.
E = year (2011)
L = month (December)
29 = date (29th, hurrrrrr)
So if someone's modem is FD19, that means:
F = 2012
D = April
19 = 19th
All ICS kernels begin with F because all ICS kernels were leaked/released in 2012. All GB kernels begin with E because they were all released in 2011.
The last stock rom/OTA released by Samsung was EL29. There have been some Samsung ICS leaks however; they range from FB## - FD##.
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K sweet. Very informative.
Not a noob by any means.
But new phone in all. Just trying to learn all the stuff.
Htc is much different. Thanks alot.
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Ok. So if I want to flash Calkulin's rom. Download the rom and radio. Use odin (mobile odin) to flash them.
What about recovery? I didnt see it mentioned.
EDIT: I see it says I need custom recovery to flash. So would I just odin a kernel that has recovery already?
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eyeisdasteve said:
Ok. So if I want to flash Calkulin's rom. Download the rom and radio. Use odin (mobile odin) to flash them.
What about recovery? I didnt see it mentioned.
EDIT: I see it says I need custom recovery to flash. So would I just odin a kernel that has recovery already?
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Both roms tell you what recovery they come with, and tells you that you need to flash them through recovery.
Edit: Yep, just Odin a kernel that has a custom recovery.

So rogue kernel. Would that be the rogue recovery?
So which kernel should I use to odin on just stock EL29 that has recovery?
EDIT: Or....the kernel (with recovery) and rom pack into the zip?
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eyeisdasteve said:
So rogue kernel. Would that be the rogue recovery?
So which kernel should I use to odin on just stock EL29 that has recovery?
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Yep, they come with Rogue Recovery. You can Odin EL26 with CWM and that will give you CWM so that you can flash those ROMs.

cnstarz said:
Yep, they come with Rogue Recovery. You can Odin EL26 with CWM and that will give you CWM so that you can flash those ROMs.
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K sweet. Almost got this figured out. Haha.
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No prob. Also, a HUGE thing to remember...
Just stick with EL26 or EL29 (GB) recovery. Using an ICS recovery (anything beginning with "F") can lead to you permanently bricking your phone. People have been successful using ICS recoveries, but lots of people have also hard bricked their phones using them (me included). Very very very very few people (if any, I cant recall any) have bricked their phones using GB Recoveries.

cnstarz said:
No prob. Also, a HUGE thing to remember...
Just stick with EL26 or EL29 (GB) recovery. Using an ICS recovery (anything beginning with "F") can lead to you permanently bricking your phone. People have been successful using ICS recoveries, but lots of people have also hard bricked their phones using them (me included). Very very very very few people (if any, I cant recall any) have bricked their phones using GB Recoveries.
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Ok sweet.
Ill make sure an triple check everything before i flash it.
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Every time u flash a rom it will change your kernel resulting in a different recovery sometimes as Samsung recovery is in the kernel not seperate like HTC ....don't sweat it keep the el26 and mobile Odin and you can flash anything .....also most ics won't come with anything but stock recovery to try to keep people from bricking ics kernels and cwm are to be avoided at all cost right now ... and rom manager sucks for Samsung if you are thinking of using it
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Don't believe anyone has mentioned him yet...
QBKing77's channel on YouTube will be your best friend for figuring stuff out on this phone

Epix4G said:
Every time u flash a rom it will change your kernel resulting in a different recovery sometimes as Samsung recovery is in the kernel not seperate like HTC ....don't sweat it keep the el26 and mobile Odin and you can flash anything .....also most ics won't come with anything but stock recovery to try to keep people from bricking ics kernels and cwm are to be avoided at all cost right now ... and rom manager sucks for Samsung if you are thinking of using it
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How would I even get into stock recovery?
And ok. I think I'm getting the hang of this.

EpicFlair said:
Don't believe anyone has mentioned him yet...
QBKing77's channel on YouTube will be your best friend for figuring stuff out on this phone
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Yes I actually saw some of his videos. Basically put everything I read here and put it into visuals.
+1

eyeisdasteve said:
How would I even get into stock recovery?
And ok. I think I'm getting the hang of this.
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Same as clock work Vol up and power
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Epix4G said:
Same as clock work Vol up and power
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Ok sweet.

I do realize we can switch between radios and they don't necessarily have to match the rom. I think iylt just goes against how I thought it went together. I have ane evo 3d as well as this phone and that is not the case with that phone. In fact when I am on a later radio with an earlier build rom everything messes up and force closes are everywhere. Just wondering why we are able to upgrade the radio with "no" problems when that modem was built to use a different build. Not to mention its not even the same version ie gb rom and ice cream modem. Any thoughts on this subject?
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patrao_n said:
I do realize we can switch between radios and they don't necessarily have to match the rom. I think iylt just goes against how I thought it went together. I have ane evo 3d as well as this phone and that is not the case with that phone. In fact when I am on a later radio with an earlier build rom everything messes up and force closes are everywhere. Just wondering why we are able to upgrade the radio with "no" problems when that modem was built to use a different build. Not to mention its not even the same version ie gb rom and ice cream modem. Any thoughts on this subject?
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modem's should have zero interactions with apps in a way that can cause them to force close. are you sure you're not confusing modems with kernels?

[Q] Installing ICS? Restoring to GB?

OK! I am so scared to be flashing an ICS rom but I want to take the plunge now, I am on Calkuins E4GT 2.9.2 rom and want to flash AOKP, what must I do before I flash? I also want to know what I have to do to restore back to this rom say if I don't like ICS?
Can you please include the links to anything I need? Thanks

Darrien13 said:
OK! I am so scared to be flashing an ICS rom but I want to take the plunge now, I am on Calkuins E4GT 2.9.2 rom and want to flash AOKP, what must I do before I flash? I also want to know what I have to do to restore back to this rom say if I don't like ICS?
Can you please include the links to anything I need? Thanks
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Make a nandroid backup. Then Odin the stock EL26 build with CWM recovery. From there you can go to AOKP. And use Calkulin's Format All to do the wiping if you use CWM to flash anything.
First off, read this so you know what mistakes not to make:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495
Here's the link for EL26:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1416477
And for AOKP:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1514665
If you don't like ICS and want to revert back to what you had just Odin One-Click EL26 again, use the Auto Root Package to install CWM and restore the nandroid in recovery. If you do any wiping in recovery mode use Calkulin's Format All. It's much safer than manually wiping.
The link for the AOKP build has a really good how-to included with it. Takes you step by step through it.

Okay I have a question? Why do we have to Odin back to el26? why not EL29? Just wondering thats all...

davidstjohn1 said:
Okay I have a question? Why do we have to Odin back to el26? why not EL29? Just wondering thats all...
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Because el26 has the clockwork recovery you need
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davidstjohn1 said:
Okay I have a question? Why do we have to Odin back to el26? why not EL29? Just wondering thats all...
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Ya it has CWM5 on it that's be shown to be the safest to flash over to ICS. A lot of people ended up with bricked phones to discover that, lol.

I've flashed many times from EL29. It's flashing back that kills it. Wrong partition or something. Going forward is fine. Use Calk's Format all. And try not to restore data. It sometimes breaks things.

I think the issue is that you want to be using a certain version of CWM, and not any other recoveries like Rogue builds (no offense). That being said, I have flashed ICS from EL29 plenty of times. Get Mobile Odin Lite and our flash kernel from XDA (only available from XDA). Get the CWM EL26 kernel that everyone is using. Mobile Odin the kernel and hold the power button and up volume on reboot. It isn't much different or take much longer than rebooting into recovery.

Darrien13 said:
OK! I am so scared to be flashing an ICS rom but I want to take the plunge now, I am on Calkuins E4GT 2.9.2 rom and want to flash AOKP, what must I do before I flash? I also want to know what I have to do to restore back to this rom say if I don't like ICS?
Can you please include the links to anything I need? Thanks
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Honestly OP there are stickys and instructions in every thread on how to do these things safely and (no offense) but if those were not enough and you still had to make a thread to ask again.... Maybe just maybe you should chill till they come up with a solid no problems method. I believe MeWarning gave you a lot of info as well as a few others.
Also they say to use EL26 but it seems that all recoveries EL29 and lower can be used with out issue. I would follow what the masses are doing though and not question too much especially if you are afraid....IMHO
Cut and dry as long as you flash and do everything you need too out of a GB kernel and CWM you will be ok..

playya said:
Honestly OP there are stickys and instructions in every thread on how to do these things safely and (no offense) but if those were not enough and you still had to make a thread to ask again.... Maybe just maybe you should chill till they come up with a solid no problems method. I believe MeWarning gave you a lot of info as well as a few others.
Also they say to use EL26 but it seems that all recoveries EL29 and lower can be used with out issue. I would follow what the masses are doing though and not question too much especially if you are afraid....IMHO
Cut and dry as long as you flash and do everything you need too out of a GB kernel and CWM you will be ok..
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I wouldnt use an el29 rogue repack to flash any aosp ics roms, might be safe for TW ics but aosp all recommend el26+cwm5 because that was the last build with stock cwm actually baked into the kernel and is the safest for flashing aosp ics. Mobile Odin and el26+cwm are 2 good items to keep on your SD card for flashing ics its quick and easy and doesn't take much longer to flash using that method than just booting to baked in recovery to flash
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Misled... Confused????

So let me try and get this right...I'm on fd26 stock rooted in order to flash a new ROM all I have to do is flash a GB kernel and not go back to GB fully, and if I wanna flash just a theme then I just use el29 kernel also is this correct? If not what are the steps I take to flash a new ics ROM from stock rooted fd26??? Thank You in advance!!!
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sbeekman said:
So let me try and get this right...I'm on fd26 stock rooted in order to flash a new ROM all I have to do is flash a GB kernel and not go back to GB fully, and if I wanna flash just a theme then I just use el29 kernel also is this correct? If not what are the steps I take to flash a new ics ROM from stock rooted fd26??? Thank You in advance!!!
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You have to flash the el26 CWM kernel (if you're on an ICS rom it won't boot because it's a GB kernel) then boot into recovery and you can flash stuff that way. If you do a theme, be sure to flash an ICS kernel after flashing the theme so it will boot normal again. Roms have kernels in them already so you don't have to worry about them.
Here's the el26 cwm kernel. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25017238

sbeekman said:
So let me try and get this right...I'm on fd26 stock rooted in order to flash a new ROM all I have to do is flash a GB kernel and not go back to GB fully, and if I wanna flash just a theme then I just use el29 kernel also is this correct? If not what are the steps I take to flash a new ics ROM from stock rooted fd26??? Thank You in advance!!!
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Honestly what you have to do is read the OP fully and do whatever is asked of you in there to make sure your phone is upgraded properly. Making new threads asking questions that may give you multiple answers may only confuse you further. I assume if you have to still ask this question with the amount of how to not brick and safe way to flash threads then you are still a little confused.
Best way to not have a paperweight is to follow whatever the OP's thread info to the letter. what rom you trying to flash
Jus' Sayin'

Yeah all I have done is went from stock to stock rooted and I have stayed stock rooted that's easy for me using the PC version of odin. I just wanted to start flashing new roms I have read all the posts and realize how not to brick I was simply wanting to know what would be the easiest way to go from stock rooted fd26 to like blazer ROM our mijjaz the goodness as I have not flashed using cwm recovery before...
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