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OK I get my device tomorrow and I'm so happy! I plan to root it and I just wanted to know if flashing an ICS can potentially harm the device? Say that I flash back to a GB rom will everything still be perfect and work? Thanks
Sorry for all the questions just want to be sure for my device's arrival!
Do a nandroid backup first and if something goes wrong you can allways restore the back up and voila everything working perfect again. I do it all the time
Any flash can potentially harm a device...like docmarioce stated nandroid first. You can always pull one of the GB recovery ROMs from the Dev forum to go completely back to GB.
I'd highly, highly recommend watching some of qbking77's youtube videos on flashing, he's done an amazing job putting these together.
^^^ yeah, QBKing is awesome!
Darrien13 said:
OK I get my device tomorrow and I'm so happy! I plan to root it and I just wanted to know if flashing an ICS can potentially harm the device? Say that I flash back to a GB rom will everything still be perfect and work? Thanks
Sorry for all the questions just want to be sure for my device's arrival!
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You have to Odin back to EL29 if you are on an ICS ROM and want to go back to GB.
Read, read, read before flashing any ROM
Enjoy your new phone!
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Don't use the recovery found on ANY ICS ROM. That means if you flash CM9, Calk's, Blendz, Venum (any ICS Rom leak), you will have ICS Rogue Repack Recovery which is known for BRICKING so many phones.
Note that, it's not the creator of the Rogue Recovery repack to blame, it is that Samsung is packing faulty kernels; Steady Hawkin, the creator, has even bricked his phone using his own tried and true methods. For some reason, the samsung kernels for ICS mess up the partitions on the phone when the recovery on an ICS leak is used.
So to sum things up.
1. DO NOT FLASH/WIPE/ RESTORE anything with the recovery repacked with the ICS leak ROMs.
2. If you want to flash, odin stock EL26 CWM.
(You might want to use the autoroot method by sfhub to install because odin'ing stuff gives you a yellow triangle on boot—Don't trust me on this, just a guess)
3. DO NOT FLASH/WIPE/RESTORE or even think of using the recovery found on any ICS ROM. Some CM9 users have bricked their phone simply by wiping cache on the recovery in CM9.
When you boot into recovery on an ICS ROM LEAK, and you see ROGUE, DO NOT FLASH/WIPE RESTORE! Run away!
My tone might be overexaggerated, but there have been many bricks reported on the CM9 dev thread here that I frequent. Those who used the rogue repack kernels found on ICS rom leaks instead of taking the safer route of odin'ing stock EL26 CWM and flashing/wiping/restoring on that, have bricked their phones.
CM9 thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1544233
More info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495
Be safe, and read read read.
Flashing ICS
I have successfully flashed a ICS ROM and then restored a backup to GB. This was before I was warned I have seen many of my friends hard brick there phone. I am waiting for a stable ICS ROM with a stable CWM.
Paden32 said:
I have successfully flashed a ICS ROM and then restored a backup to GB. This was before I was warned I have seen many of my friends hard brick there phone. I am waiting for a stable ICS ROM with a stable CWM.
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same here. i actually wiped everything and it didnt brick. works just fine now! GB >>>> ICS
Flashing ICS
I have been hearing from people that the official ICS rom comes out March 15 I hope it does cant wait.
Paden32 said:
I have been hearing from people that the official ICS rom comes out March 15 I hope it does cant wait.
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ICS is actually being pushed to the International version now in some places. I don't honestly thing we will see a March 15th date for us however (but hey I could be wrong)
As for Flashing ICS please read carefully there have been a ton of Bricks flashing ICS roms with ICS based kernels that have a recovery added to them. Your best bet honestly is to relax and chill read for awhile or a bit and when you feel confident in doing it then do so. My words for you ALWAYS keep Odin handy and if you do want to go back to a GB based rom then Odin a GB rom (like sfhub's EL29 Stock rooted) and push a GB based kernel with his auto root package.
Some people are lucky when using the ICS kernel recovery; in fact I am one of them . But eventually that luck will run out. I'm fortunate that I learned about its dangers before I could get a chance to brick my phone.
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Some people are lucky when using the ICS kernel recovery; in fact I am one of them . But eventually that luck will run out. I'm fortunate that I learned about its dangers before I could get a chance to brick my phone.
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Yes some have been lucky this is true. But when I see one of our own devs Brick their device from doing it not just users (thought they do count as well) I tend to be on the safe side and give people the way not only myself but others have done things for flashing between different roms and have so far always been safe
Here is what worked for me...
Download stock rom for ics fc07
Download rogue stock fc07 kernel
Place both on external SD card
Use sfhub's one click root method
Use sfhub's clockwork method
Make a backup
Wipe everything and run calks format all zip
Flash the rom and kernel (and modem) in the same setting and ur gtg
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Would you guys recommend not flashing anything ICS?
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Darrien13 said:
Would you guys recommend not flashing anything ICS?
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I would say as long as you have Odin and take your time (whether its going to ICS or back to Gingerbread) then you will have no problems. If you want to be really safe, make it a rule that you flash ICS from a Gingerbread EL26 kernel w/CWM Recovery and if you want to flash something else once on ICS, Odin flash back to stock Gingerbread, Odin flash kernel with recovery and go from there. You can always PM me and I can shoot you links as well. Some people aren't having problems flashing from ICS w/ custom recovery but many have..including some devs
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Mobile odin??
Edit... Never mind
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first time I flashed aokp it was all gravy until I tried to boot into recovery, I got the Android System Recovery. I got scared and I read around and ended up odin'ing back to stock and flashing another rom.
I really like aokp so I wanted to try it again. I made very sure I followed the directions, I did not flash from an ICS recovery. I try booting into recovery to see if it worked this time and sure enough, there is android system recovery again, what am I doing wrong?
I searched for this too and saw that someone said to reinstall the packages and reboot, and do it again or something like that and it would boot into CWM, but that was for a different phone so I wasnt gonna try that.
Can I just run the eg4tauto.zip and isntall el26 with cwm to get recovery back and be good, or do I need to odin?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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first time I flashed aokp it was all gravy until I tried to boot into recovery, I got the Android System Recovery. I got scared and I read around and ended up odin'ing back to stock and flashing another rom.
You need to read the OP in the thread.
I really like aokp so I wanted to try it again. I made very sure I followed the directions, I did not flash from an ICS recovery. I try booting into recovery to see if it worked this time and sure enough, there is android system recovery again, what am I doing wrong?
I searched for this too and saw that someone said to reinstall the packages and reboot, and do it again or something like that and it would boot into CWM, but that was for a different phone so I wasnt gonna try that.
Can I just run the eg4tauto.zip and isntall el26 with cwm to get recovery back and be good, or do I need to odin?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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There is no cwm on aokp codename etc for a reason ....to stop people from bring stupid and bricking ....don't use a ics kernel with cwm for anything .... Use el26 to flash any ROM u need and when you want to go to another use mobile Odin or regular Odin to flash el26 kernel again and boot into cwm .... El26 is a GB kernel and won't boot a ics ROM ....then you can flash anything GB or ics
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thanks for your response, but I think I am more confused, I was trying to flash a different modem. when I am not connected to 4g, my data is terrible, with 4g, I am all good. I was going to try a different modem. In the OP, for modems it says this:
Modems
FC18 Modem: DOWNLOAD
Flash through Stock CWM Recovery OR pull the modem.bin out of the .zip file and flash in the Phone option in Odin(mobile Odin doesnt flash modem)
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You probably should flash back to a touch wiz ROM.....you can Odin the el29 tar or one click from sfhub .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433101
you can Odin the modem and then update profile and prl in tw then you can flash the el26 cwm http://www.mediafire.com/?hkydca9ob98z89m
and go back to aokp or codename etc
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sorry if this is a dumb questions, but what if I get stuck in a boot loop and I have no recovery? just go into download mode and odin my way out?
one other thing, I started flashing ics roms with venum ice and flashed to mijjz ics and caulks and others and never had a problem, was I just lucky so far? I don't recall mijjz or venum's installation instructions saying I needed to odin back to stock before flashing. Sorry for the noob questions, but I've read a bunch and just trying to piece it all together. I read so I don't brick, but then I end up with more questions.
I'm also wondering about this I've spent a good deal of time trying to put the time line of the et4g together and I think I got most of it....just got my shiny white et4g two days ago my wife has had hers. for about 4 mo. shes much less fearless when it comes to flashing on this phone. (however shes settled in on build 27 of aokp, and I doubts shes gonna be flashing anytime too soon.) I'm coming over from my NS4G which always had clear cut rules to flashing! CWM all day. The only thing(s) I ever had to watch for was is it aosp, or not? An do I do a wipe or not? (I got in the habit of wiping just to be safe, and man I flash with the best of them! At least 2 times a week)
OK, OK sorry about the ramblings of my history my real questions are:
A) So Im sitting on alpha 2 of CM9 (nice piece of work I must Say) I made sure I was in the green, and had everything lined up to flash this one! went smooth of course. It wasn't until after my flash that I tried to make a nandroid....I get why theres no clockwork! but I'm totally clueless on how to back up with out it, or if you even can make one with stock recovery?
Can I keep CM9, and flash a kernel with rouge recovery to the make a nandroid? Or is there another way to go about this (I like to make nandroid often as a easy way to restore data after I play around with stuff and brake Wifi or what have you, and scrap unneeded back ups as I find out what I can and cant do with MY phone.)
I really really love Cryogen 9 (yeah its not as far along as I would like it to be ex- cm7 for the ns4g or kangs aokp builds) But there a team I'm familiar with. An I like there stuff, but I'm really nerves about where I go from here if/when i decide to change to something else.What are the guide lines for flashing from cm9 to say another ICS build? and is CM9 compatible with other kernels or only the one that is came packed with?
B) can someone straight up make a new clean thread with proper flashing tech. and no filler or out dated info then the have a mod stick it and close it>>>>simplify this for those of us that know what were doing....until things go funk for some reason, or another and that leaves ,us we are completely lost!
Well after wrighting my first novel (joke haha) I would like to thank everyone thats put up there time and money to make phones OURS and more powerful then what hit the shelfs an allowing me to get the most customized electronic device I have ever seen with the exception of my PC. Clapping
If you want to backup your system with the stock cm9a2 kernel, just mobile odin/odin el26 kernel/recovery, boot into cwm, flash stock cm9a2 kernel, now while still in cwm do a nand backup. That way it will be a full backup.
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I know I'm a little late, but there is CWM for the AOKP rom. The FC07 BootImg on the e4gtuato.zip file worked fine for me on the older version which was based off of FC15.
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I know I'm a little late, but there is CWM for the AOKP rom. The FC07 BootImg on the e4gtuato.zip file worked fine for me on the older version which was based off of FC15.
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I would try that, but these folks have me scurred about using cwm within aokp. I have flashed between caulks ics/venum ice, anakonda/mijjz goodness,xplod mini and a couple other ICS roms all from cwm with absolutely no issues so far.
I am thoroughly confused right now. I am on aokp build 28 with a few significant issues and not sure what what direction to go next. I know how to get out of aokp safely now, but not sure which rom i want to go to, little issues with each that I dont know how to fix yet.
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I would try that, but these folks have me scurred about using cwm within aokp. I have flashed between caulks ics/venum ice, anakonda/mijjz goodness,xplod mini and a couple other ICS roms all from cwm with absolutely no issues so far.
I am thoroughly confused right now. I am on aokp build 28 with a few significant issues and not sure what what direction to go next. I know how to get out of aokp safely now, but not sure which rom i want to go to, little issues with each that I dont know how to fix yet.
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Read this thread it happens when using ics kernel with cwm .and then tell us u want to use cwm with a ics kernel.....it bricks phones please read it and understand
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495
That's why people are using Odin to get el26 GB on their phones to flash with
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krook250 said:
I would try that, but these folks have me scurred about using cwm within aokp. I have flashed between caulks ics/venum ice, anakonda/mijjz goodness,xplod mini and a couple other ICS roms all from cwm with absolutely no issues so far.
I am thoroughly confused right now. I am on aokp build 28 with a few significant issues and not sure what what direction to go next. I know how to get out of aokp safely now, but not sure which rom i want to go to, little issues with each that I dont know how to fix yet.
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If you have been having luck thats fine but I can not see how you have not noticed int eh OP of the ICS roms and the OP of the recoveries it gives you instructions on what to do and what not to do. Also there are quite a few threads in here about the horror stories of the now infamous blue light of death. Once again if you have escaped this then maybe you should tell us your secret to success. Honestly the few extra steps it takes to ensure your phone stays your phone is well worth it.
Like Epix has posted please read up a little just incase something happens to you or anyone else who claims no problems so you know how to help yourself. Hopefully we wont have to see a I Think I just bricked my Phone thread from you.
Odin EL26 CWM and basically everything else stays the same after that... except you would need to either reflash the ICS rom you are using or have a copy of the kernel readily available
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Read this thread it happens when using ics kernel with cwm .and then tell us u want to use cwm with a ics kernel.....it bricks phones please read it and understand
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495
That's why people are using Odin to get el26 GB on their phones to flash with
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I've read that, hence the reason for my posts. I am not going to load cwm and start flashing away. From aokp, I will odin back to GB before I flash any new ICS roms. I also won't be flashing between other ICS roms, even ones I have done before with no problems. I odin every time now, but it is putting a serious damper on my flashing addiction.
I could flash 3 roms in the time it takes me to odin back to GB, lol!
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I've read that, hence the reason for my posts. I am not going to load cwm and start flashing away. From aokp, I will odin back to GB before I flash any new ICS roms. I also won't be flashing between other ICS roms, even ones I have done before with no problems. I odin every time now, but it is putting a serious damper on my flashing addiction.
I could flash 3 roms in the time it takes me to odin back to GB, lol!
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I don't Odin to stock all the time I mobile Odin the el26 cwm kernel and then boot strait into recovery as the GB kernel won't boot the ics ROM and then I flash from there but I also u caulks format all too ....
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Epix4G said:
I don't Odin to stock all the time I mobile Odin the el26 cwm kernel and then boot strait into recovery as the GB kernel won't boot the ics ROM and then I flash from there but I also u caulks format all too ....
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Thus is what I used to do at first myself I would flash the CWM kernel then just nandroid back my old rom and keep it moving. It just basically seems that as long as you do everything in a GB kernel based recovery as long as it is not the Touch recovery you should be OK
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I am gonna look into mobile Odin so i don't have to be sitting at a PC to do work. So if I go back to gb and get my modem biz straightened out then flash an ics rom, my modem changes will stick?
It seems like this issue is isolated to sprint only, right? Much buddy on att is flashing ics over ics like crazy. And he said he hasn't seen anything like this over there.
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I've only used the ICS recovery on AOKP to change modems and flash GB roms because it probably wouldn't work too well with other ICS roms.
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I am gonna look into mobile Odin so i don't have to be sitting at a PC to do work. So if I go back to gb and get my modem biz straightened out then flash an ics rom, my modem changes will stick?
It seems like this issue is isolated to sprint only, right? Much buddy on att is flashing ics over ics like crazy. And he said he hasn't seen anything like this over there.
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UPDATE: It seems that using recovery on Touchwiz-based ICS roms (like Blend ICS) is safe but it is much more dangerous on roms built from stock (like CM9). Your buddy must be using roms based off of leaked builds and not stock AOSP.
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If you flashed back to Gingerbread to change your modems and installed an Ice Cream Sandwich rom over it the modem should stay.
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I've only used the ICS recovery on AOKP to change modems and flash GB roms because it probably wouldn't work too well with other ICS roms.
UPDATE: It seems that using recovery on Touchwiz-based ICS roms (like Blend ICS) is safe but it is much more dangerous on roms built from stock (like CM9). Your buddy must be using roms based off of leaked builds and not stock AOSP.
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If you flashed back to Gingerbread to change your modems and installed an Ice Cream Sandwich rom over it the modem should stay.
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It has nothing to do with that it's the ics kernel and aosp and tw is using the same kernel but with minor changed , because there is no source released there can't be a built from source aosp kernel ....there is no safe ics kernel with cwm when source is released they will fix it, but the note has the same problem
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Epix4G said:
It has nothing to do with that it's the ics kernel and aosp and tw is using the same kernel but with minor changed , because there is no source released there can't be a built from source aosp kernel ....there is no safe ics kernel with cwm when source is released they will fix it, but the note has the same problem
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The recovery that came with Blend ICS worked fine for me though. Trying to flash using recoveries on other ICS roms gave me soft bricks. Would you have any idea how Blend worked for me?
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The recovery that came with Blend ICS worked fine for me though. Trying to flash using recoveries on other ICS roms gave me soft bricks. Would you have any idea how Blend worked for me?
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It is the same recovery and soft bricks ate usually from not wiping right....but use that kernel with cwm and wipe data and your risking a b.l.o.d. It doesn't take much ....the thing is Samsung changed a couple things with how the data partition is handled and they also changed a couple other partitions and sfhub said he thinks it writes over two of the partitions at the same time when wiping and makes both unusable creating a brick
... writers thing is it damages the emmc somehow and makes it even impossible to jtag it .... Which should really never happen
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Epix4G said:
It is the same recovery and soft bricks ate usually from not wiping right....but use that kernel with cwm and wipe data and your risking a b.l.o.d. It doesn't take much ....the thing is Samsung changed a couple things with how the data partition is handled and they also changed a couple other partitions and sfhub said he thinks it writes over two of the partitions at the same time when wiping and makes both unusable creating a brick
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So the best thing I guess would be to just to avoid ICS recoveries all around.
Is ics worth people bricking there phone,then going to different phone because there mad?
My brother has ICS and he loves it but I'm not taking the chance of bricking phone.....i keep seeing alota people who bricked there phone.
But is anyone sticking with GB and making more Roms and themes.
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Well as far as sticking with GB development despite working on an ICS rom, sfhub released an update to his GB rom as well.
But if you odin over a stock ics rom and don't do anything stupid you should be pretty safe from bricking. Obviously usual risks for writing firmware to a device apply. Custom rom's should be flashed from GB instead of ICS CWM. Though I have had no issues flashing from ICS, taking risks that you were told not to take is your own fault.
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Well as far as sticking with GB development despite working on an ICS rom, sfhub released an update to his GB rom as well.
But if you odin over a stock ics rom and don't do anything stupid you should be pretty safe from bricking. Obviously usual risks for writing firmware to a device apply. Custom rom's should be flashed from GB instead of ICS CWM. Though I have had no issues flashing from ICS, taking risks that you were told not to take is your own fault.
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Well i know....but I can't take that chance so I'm sticking with gb till its safe lol,but it seems like no one else is making any new roms or atleast themes for GB
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ScubaSteev said:
Well i know....but I can't take that chance so I'm sticking with gb till its safe lol,but it seems like no one else is making any new roms or atleast themes for GB
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Using the 1-click ODIN method to flash an official leaked build of ICS is perfectly safe. Bricking happens when you use a recovery to wipe data and/or caches. Something about the new ICS kernel not being fully compatible with the current recoveries or something. As long as you don't mess with a custom recovery and just ODIN the stock leaked ROM, Kernel, and Recovery, you will not brick the phone. Until Samsung releases the kernel source, stay away from CWM or anything else that's not stock. Let me reiterate this point: stock Samsung leaks flashed via ODIN are safe. Do not touch any CWM/Kernel repacks or flash anything (other than stock leaks) via ODIN or otherwise until Samsung releases the kernel source.
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Using the 1-click ODIN method to flash an official leaked build of ICS is perfectly safe. Bricking happens when you use a recovery to wipe data and/or caches. Something about the new ICS kernel not being fully compatible with the current recoveries or something. As long as you don't mess with a custom recovery and just ODIN the stock leaked ROM, Kernel, and Recovery, you will not brick the phone. Until Samsung releases the kernel source, stay away from CWM or anything else that's not stock. Let me reiterate this point: stock Samsung leaks flashed via ODIN are safe. Do not touch any CWM/Kernel repacks or flash anything (other than stock leaks) via ODIN or otherwise until Samsung releases the kernel source.
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Well i might try it.....i don't have a computer though so i still wont beable to try ics
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I've flash a ROM through an ICS Rogue Recovery several times, I just use Calkunlin's format-all ZIP.
I think most of the bricks happened with people flashing over AOKP/CM9/Codename through CWM. I've only flashed TW leaked based ROMs and had no issues, but of course ODIN would be the safest way to go about flashing ICS. All the ICS I flashed were from Rujelus22 (beta's) and FD05 from Agat63 (last night but for a little bit, then format all and flashed back to the previous ICS ROM).
You could always just revert to GB through ODIN, and flash an ICS ROM that way. ICS is great, but if GB is working perfectly fine for you and you don't mind waiting, I say stay on it.
As the poster above stated most bricks happen when coming from CM9/AOKP/AOSP/Codename. I've flashed through fb21 rogue repacked kernel multiple times. I just stay with the leaks(Blend ICS, Blend ICS XPLOD, Venums Anakonda, and Calkulins E4GT 2 ROMs). They work great and I really haven't had any bad experiences with them. I use stock(no cwm) kernels and mobile odin back to fb21 repack to flash new ROMS. I'm a flashaholic and flash back and forth when new versions come out.
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Well when i get a laptop ill have to try it out
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Pick up mobile odin, you can flash sfhub's one-click packages but you'll have to do the modem separately.
Esoteric68 said:
Pick up mobile odin, you can flash sfhub's one-click packages but you'll have to do the modem separately.
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There is that and a good program it is but he can also flash from cwm on gingerbread if he has a kernel installed and id find that preferable. Of course if not can always flash a rogue kernel using mobile odin.
Remember don't use touch recovery!
quick questions can i restore a GB backup on ICS or should i odin back to EL29?
Odin
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tykalx said:
quick questions can i restore a GB backup on ICS or should i odin back to EL29?
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ODIN only. Don't even think about restoring a GB backup on ICS.
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Mark.J.Linskiy said:
I've flash a ROM through an ICS Rogue Recovery several times, I just use Calkunlin's format-all ZIP.
I think most of the bricks happened with people flashing over AOKP/CM9/Codename through CWM. I've only flashed TW leaked based ROMs and had no issues, but of course ODIN would be the safest way to go about flashing ICS. All the ICS I flashed were from Rujelus22 (beta's) and FD05 from Agat63 (last night but for a little bit, then format all and flashed back to the previous ICS ROM).
You could always just revert to GB through ODIN, and flash an ICS ROM that way. ICS is great, but if GB is working perfectly fine for you and you don't mind waiting, I say stay on it.
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I don't think the bricks have anything to do with AOKP/CM9, etc but rather formatting caches from within a GB recovery packed with an ICS kernel. Calk's format-all zip may be a safe way to do it, but from what I've read, it was the format process through recovery that caused the MMC chip failure. And even the AOKP instructions specifically say to flash from GB kernel/recovery because doing it from an ICS kernel/recovery can brick the phone. It's the ICS kernel at fault here, but we're not going to know specifically why until the source is released. Until then, I'd recommend not messing with repacked ICS kernels.
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ODIN only. Don't even think about restoring a GB backup on ICS.
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I don't think the bricks have anything to do with AOKP/CM9, etc but rather formatting caches from within a GB recovery packed with an ICS kernel. Calk's format-all zip may be a safe way to do it, but from what I've read, it was the format process through recovery that caused the MMC chip failure. And even the AOKP instructions specifically say to flash from GB kernel/recovery because doing it from an ICS kernel/recovery can brick the phone. It's the ICS kernel at fault here, but we're not going to know specifically why until the source is released. Until then, I'd recommend not messing with repacked ICS kernels.
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Most of the bricks were caused by people flashing over AOPK/CM9/etc, I know it has to do with the Kernel as well but I'm saying that chances are much higher if you're flashing over those ROMs. Thing is, to flash a TW ICS leaked based ROM, I only use Calkulin's format all, but I've also flashed Kernels/Modems through the Rogue repacked after wiping dalvik/cache and haven't had an issue. I know for sure that formatting manually before a ROM flash will probably cause a brick as well and flashing the AOSP based ROMs in an ICS recovery will most likely do the same. Either way, Odin is the safest and best way, especially if some is hesitant.
Hope you don't take it as me being a jerk or anything, just saying it how I know it, even though I may be wrong.
Mark.J.Linskiy said:
Most of the bricks were caused by people flashing over AOPK/CM9/etc, I know it has to do with the Kernel as well but I'm saying that chances are much higher if you're flashing over those ROMs. Thing is, to flash a TW ICS leaked based ROM, I only use Calkulin's format all, but I've also flashed Kernels/Modems through the Rogue repacked after wiping dalvik/cache and haven't had an issue. I know for sure that formatting manually before a ROM flash will probably cause a brick as well and flashing the AOSP based ROMs in an ICS recovery will most likely do the same. Either way, Odin is the safest and best way, especially if some is hesitant.
Hope you don't take it as me being a jerk or anything, just saying it how I know it, even though I may be wrong.
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No, I don't think you are being a jerk at all, and I'm trying to learn something along the way as well. We are both simply trying to prevent another bricked device, I just tend to be extremely cautious, perhaps even unnecessarily cautious. But I came here from an Evo 4G that was bricked by a bad recovery (Team Win Recovery Project touch recovery killed quite a few Evos), so I only use the absolute safest method possible for myself, which is ODIN and stock leaks. I will go back to CWM once the source is released and we know what's actually going on.
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No, I don't think you are being a jerk at all, and I'm trying to learn something along the way as well. We are both simply trying to prevent another bricked device, I just tend to be extremely cautious, perhaps even unnecessarily cautious. But I came here from an Evo 4G that was bricked by a bad recovery (Team Win Recovery Project touch recovery killed quite a few Evos), so I only use the absolute safest method possible for myself, which is ODIN and stock leaks. I will go back to CWM once the source is released and we know what's actually going on.
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Yeah, I completely understand. I didn't touch a single ICS ROM until I was asked to do some testing, and even when updated the Beta I would Odin back to GB then flash it. The developer told me he had no issues with flashing the format ZIP and flashing his Betas so I tried it and no issues. It's always good to stay cautious, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with what you're doing, since after-all, it is your personal device. I recommend people use Odin as well, especially for those who aren't completely sure what they're doing. Makes perfect sense for staying away from CWM until the source is out.
All so understandable......better to have more people then less people asking question.s and giving answers....its helping me alot
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All so understandable......better to have more people then less people asking question.s and giving answers....its helping me alot
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Yup, that's what makes it a good community. Glad it's helping you out, and if you decide to flash, good luck!
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Yup, that's what makes it a good community. Glad it's helping you out, and if you decide to flash, good luck!
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Ima try to learn a little more then flash....thanks for all info guys/gals
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I've been on ICS roms for about a month (Calkulin's with ICS4ICS theme) and I have to admit that the battery life is absolutely horrible compared to GB roms
Okay so i'm only familiar with flashing on the epic 4g and I just got a E4GT tdy which was already rooted and its on Calkulins E4GT.2.ROM v1.5. The kernel says FD26 with some other letters with it but i doubt important. So yeah I was gonna start with the flashing but i've been reading about people bricking their E4GT and I just wanna be on the safe side and ask how can I update to CM9 or calkulin's 3.0 from this point on? when I go to recovery it just says team rogue's recovery but looks like I can easily flash roms. Just don't want to flash the wrong thing in the wrong provedure and get a brick. Any help will be GREATLY appreciated. Thank You Very Much!!!
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Okay so i'm only familiar with flashing on the epic 4g and I just got a E4GT tdy which was already rooted and its on Calkulins E4GT.2.ROM v1.5. The kernel says FD26 with some other letters with it but i doubt important. So yeah I was gonna start with the flashing but i've been reading about people bricking their E4GT and I just wanna be on the safe side and ask how can I update to CM9 or calkulin's 3.0 from this point on? when I go to recovery it just says team rogue's recovery but looks like I can easily flash roms. Just don't want to flash the wrong thing in the wrong provedure and get a brick. Any help will be GREATLY appreciated. Thank You Very Much!!!
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Odin back to el26 with cwm and start over from there would be my advice
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Read the stickies in general, that's why they're there
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Odin back to el26 with cwm and start over from there would be my advice
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yeah I read everything.. just trying to be a bit cautious since I was also reading that it's probable to brick e4gt when on an ics rom.. i was able to get my hands on mobile odin so i can just flash the el26 safe cwm from there right?
(1) Grab the stock el29 tar, install the desktop version of odin and drivers on your computer, and verify odin works. Flash el29. This phone is very soft brick happy, but in almost all cases odin'ing back to stock will fix things. So it is good to have them handy.
(2) Find a rom you think you might like and flash it. Only flash roms intended for the epic touch 4g, international roms will brick your phone. Follow any rom specific instructions in the thread. In general, a zip file must be flashed in a custom recovery, a tar file must be flashed in odin, and an exe file must be flashed in Windows. If it is a zip file, be sure you are flashing from a safe recovery. In general, as long as you have the newest version of chris' or agat's recovery, then it has been patched to be safe.
(3) If your phone doesn't boot or work right after the rom flash, repeat step 1
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y2bangali said:
yeah I read everything.. just trying to be a bit cautious since I was also reading that it's probable to brick e4gt when on an ics rom.. i was able to get my hands on mobile odin so i can just flash the el26 safe cwm from there right?
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Bingo, nailed it
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What are the changes from version 2.9 to v3 that some people arn't liking? I hear some people like v2.9 better.
In Calkulin's mods, are the bloatware apps and running services already removed, or is that up to each person to do?
Thanks.
Personally I don't see much of a difference in the 2.9.x to 3.0 releases. I run 3.0 and get great battery life using the El29 stock repack kernel and modem (although this week I'm going to be testing EL13 stock repack kernel and modem). And to answer the bloatware question, Calkulin has a script posted that de-bloats the ROM, as well as "bare" releases. Both options work well. Cheers!
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Personally I don't see much of a difference in the 2.9.x to 3.0 releases. I run 3.0 and get great battery life using the El29 stock repack kernel and modem (although this week I'm going to be testing EL13 stock repack kernel and modem). And to answer the bloatware question, Calkulin has a script posted that de-bloats the ROM, as well as "bare" releases. Both options work well. Cheers!
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Yes, I'm seeing those scripts in this thread. They look helpful. After you run the Wipe script then flash the rom, do you do a first time boot, then go back into the system menu and run the de-bloat script? What is the order of running these? It's my impression that you can run his added scripts at anytime, right?
Thanks.
What I normally do when flashing is run the format all script twice (the second time just for my own peace of mind!), flash the ROM and then boot up for the first time. Just to make sure everything's looking good ill usually just fool around with the fresh install for a few minutes, then power down and run the debloat script. Reboot after that, and check everything out. From there on out when flashing scripts (like tdunhams tweaks or other mods) I always flash one script, boot up, and do some basic testing to make sure everything went smooth. I've heard horror stories of people flashing a bunch of scripts at once and then having issues and having to start from scratch anyway. Let us know how you make out.
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What I normally do when flashing is run the format all script twice (the second time just for my own peace of mind!), flash the ROM and then boot up for the first time. Just to make sure everything's looking good ill usually just fool around with the fresh install for a few minutes, then power down and run the debloat script. Reboot after that, and check everything out. From there on out when flashing scripts (like tdunhams tweaks or other mods) I always flash one script, boot up, and do some basic testing to make sure everything went smooth. I've heard horror stories of people flashing a bunch of scripts at once and then having issues and having to start from scratch anyway. Let us know how you make out.
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Thanks, that is helpful. The last piece I am missing is how to do the wipes and rom loads. I've been into the Samsung system menu (where I flashed the official ICS load I got). Will the stock samsung system menu allow me to Wipe and Calkulin's rom flash, or do I need ClockWork?
Sorry I had assumed you were already using a custom recovery. So you are running stock ics pushed from Sammy right now? Basically in order to do all this fancy business you need to have a kernel with a touch recovery. If you're running stock ics right now, I think its safe to say you can Odin (from your PC) the EL26 stock kernel repacked with cwm and then flash Calukins rom zip from there. Not sure of you necessarily need to go to EL26 first but I just like to play it on the safe side when dealing with ics. I believe you could also use one of the one click flashes found in the dev forums and then flash Calukins rom from there (assuming its a rooted one click package). Hopefully this makes sense.
And just be careful if you do want to return to ics after a while, you should always flash the EL26 stock kernel when flashing to ics. I believe the bricking issue has been solved and its pretty safe to flash ics with other kernels but nothing wrong with playing on the safe side.
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Sorry I had assumed you were already using a custom recovery. So you are running stock ics pushed from Sammy right now? Basically in order to do all this fancy business you need to have a kernel with a touch recovery. If you're running stock ics right now, I think its safe to say you can Odin (from your PC) the EL26 stock kernel repacked with cwm and then flash Calukins rom zip from there. Not sure of you necessarily need to go to EL26 first but I just like to play it on the safe side when dealing with ics. I believe you could also use one of the one click flashes found in the dev forums and then flash Calukins rom from there (assuming its a rooted one click package). Hopefully this makes sense.
And just be careful if you do want to return to ics after a while, you should always flash the EL26 stock kernel when flashing to ics. I believe the bricking issue has been solved and its pretty safe to flash ics with other kernels but nothing wrong with playing on the safe side.
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Yes, I have the stock ICS load from Sprint/Samsung now. Now I need to figure out the best way to get the on click EL26 w/ CWM. Then I can flash up to EL29 Calk v3.
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Yes, I have the stock ICS load from Sprint/Samsung now. Now I need to figure out the best way to get the on click EL26 w/ CWM. Then I can flash up to EL29 Calk v3.
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This link should bring you to the One-click flasher for EL26 stock rooted (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1416477&highlight=one+click). After flashing that, you need to get a CWM kernel (http://kernelrepo.chris41g.org/default.asp?startFolder=\Recovery+Kernels\GB\Chris41g\Stock+CWM\TAR) so grab the EL26 .tar file and flash via Odin. Once that's done, you should have a CWM recovery with a rooted phone, allowing you to flash Calukin's rom zip via CWM. I would have linked earlier but I was on my phone not the PC and it's a pain to grab links on the run!
If you aren't too familiar with Odin, no worries it's very easy to do. I don't have time to hammer it all out right now but I'm sure wherever you find the download link for Odin, there will be a guide on how to use it right along side it.
With all of that said, you could probably follow the same steps to flash but while using any of the other One-click versions (EG30, EL29, etc etc) as long as you are dealing with GB roms and kernels ONLY. I know I said it before, but just to reiterate in case you are new to all this, use the EL26 as your starting point when flashing back to ics at any point. It's probably just me being super careful but I'd rather that then end up with a very expensive paperweight! Keep us posted, I'll try and check the thread later on.
Edit: I guess there are other ways to get CWM rocking on the GB platforms coming from a simply stock rooted system (via auto-root) but I just find it easier to flash the kernel right over top the old one, it keeps it simple. And not to belittle you or anything, but if you are new to flashing roms and the likes, I would REALLY recommend watching some videos on how to do everything. QBking has some GREAT tutorials on youtube to show you the basics (most importantly how to NOT brick your phone) as well as many other videos found on this forum and the ACS forums...check them out! Cheers, buddy!
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This link should bring you to the One-click flasher for EL26 stock rooted (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1416477&highlight=one+click). After flashing that, you need to get a CWM kernel (http://kernelrepo.chris41g.org/default.asp?startFolder=\Recovery+Kernels\GB\Chris41g\Stock+CWM\TAR) so grab the EL26 .tar file and flash via Odin. Once that's done, you should have a CWM recovery with a rooted phone, allowing you to flash Calukin's rom zip via CWM. I would have linked earlier but I was on my phone not the PC and it's a pain to grab links on the run!
If you aren't too familiar with Odin, no worries it's very easy to do. I don't have time to hammer it all out right now but I'm sure wherever you find the download link for Odin, there will be a guide on how to use it right along side it.
With all of that said, you could probably follow the same steps to flash but while using any of the other One-click versions (EG30, EL29, etc etc) as long as you are dealing with GB roms and kernels ONLY. I know I said it before, but just to reiterate in case you are new to all this, use the EL26 as your starting point when flashing back to ics at any point. It's probably just me being super careful but I'd rather that then end up with a very expensive paperweight! Keep us posted, I'll try and check the thread later on.
Edit: I guess there are other ways to get CWM rocking on the GB platforms coming from a simply stock rooted system (via auto-root) but I just find it easier to flash the kernel right over top the old one, it keeps it simple. And not to belittle you or anything, but if you are new to flashing roms and the likes, I would REALLY recommend watching some videos on how to do everything. QBking has some GREAT tutorials on youtube to show you the basics (most importantly how to NOT brick your phone) as well as many other videos found on this forum and the ACS forums...check them out! Cheers, buddy!
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Is there a reason you suggest going back to EL26?
Rolling back to GB from ICS, I was going to go this route:
Step 1: EL29
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433101
Step 2: Then Apply CWM with option C (EL29) here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342728
Step 3: Use Caulks format all script 2 times.
Step 4: Then apply the Caulk v3:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1332837&page=963
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No you should be in the clear. Only reason I suggested EL26 was because when ics dropped pre-source, to avoid bricking you'd always go back to EL26 and flash from that stock repack kernel. You should be OK with the route you're taking though.
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Just watch QBking77 videos on YouTube. The guy is very thorough and good at explaining things for any phone he is teaching us about
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