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after flashing AOKP, no CWM, only Android System Recovery

first time I flashed aokp it was all gravy until I tried to boot into recovery, I got the Android System Recovery. I got scared and I read around and ended up odin'ing back to stock and flashing another rom.
I really like aokp so I wanted to try it again. I made very sure I followed the directions, I did not flash from an ICS recovery. I try booting into recovery to see if it worked this time and sure enough, there is android system recovery again, what am I doing wrong?
I searched for this too and saw that someone said to reinstall the packages and reboot, and do it again or something like that and it would boot into CWM, but that was for a different phone so I wasnt gonna try that.
Can I just run the eg4tauto.zip and isntall el26 with cwm to get recovery back and be good, or do I need to odin?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

krook250 said:
first time I flashed aokp it was all gravy until I tried to boot into recovery, I got the Android System Recovery. I got scared and I read around and ended up odin'ing back to stock and flashing another rom.
You need to read the OP in the thread.
I really like aokp so I wanted to try it again. I made very sure I followed the directions, I did not flash from an ICS recovery. I try booting into recovery to see if it worked this time and sure enough, there is android system recovery again, what am I doing wrong?
I searched for this too and saw that someone said to reinstall the packages and reboot, and do it again or something like that and it would boot into CWM, but that was for a different phone so I wasnt gonna try that.
Can I just run the eg4tauto.zip and isntall el26 with cwm to get recovery back and be good, or do I need to odin?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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There is no cwm on aokp codename etc for a reason ....to stop people from bring stupid and bricking ....don't use a ics kernel with cwm for anything .... Use el26 to flash any ROM u need and when you want to go to another use mobile Odin or regular Odin to flash el26 kernel again and boot into cwm .... El26 is a GB kernel and won't boot a ics ROM ....then you can flash anything GB or ics
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thanks for your response, but I think I am more confused, I was trying to flash a different modem. when I am not connected to 4g, my data is terrible, with 4g, I am all good. I was going to try a different modem. In the OP, for modems it says this:
Modems
FC18 Modem: DOWNLOAD
Flash through Stock CWM Recovery OR pull the modem.bin out of the .zip file and flash in the Phone option in Odin(mobile Odin doesnt flash modem)
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You probably should flash back to a touch wiz ROM.....you can Odin the el29 tar or one click from sfhub .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433101
you can Odin the modem and then update profile and prl in tw then you can flash the el26 cwm http://www.mediafire.com/?hkydca9ob98z89m
and go back to aokp or codename etc
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sorry if this is a dumb questions, but what if I get stuck in a boot loop and I have no recovery? just go into download mode and odin my way out?
one other thing, I started flashing ics roms with venum ice and flashed to mijjz ics and caulks and others and never had a problem, was I just lucky so far? I don't recall mijjz or venum's installation instructions saying I needed to odin back to stock before flashing. Sorry for the noob questions, but I've read a bunch and just trying to piece it all together. I read so I don't brick, but then I end up with more questions.

I'm also wondering about this I've spent a good deal of time trying to put the time line of the et4g together and I think I got most of it....just got my shiny white et4g two days ago my wife has had hers. for about 4 mo. shes much less fearless when it comes to flashing on this phone. (however shes settled in on build 27 of aokp, and I doubts shes gonna be flashing anytime too soon.) I'm coming over from my NS4G which always had clear cut rules to flashing! CWM all day. The only thing(s) I ever had to watch for was is it aosp, or not? An do I do a wipe or not? (I got in the habit of wiping just to be safe, and man I flash with the best of them! At least 2 times a week)
OK, OK sorry about the ramblings of my history my real questions are:
A) So Im sitting on alpha 2 of CM9 (nice piece of work I must Say) I made sure I was in the green, and had everything lined up to flash this one! went smooth of course. It wasn't until after my flash that I tried to make a nandroid....I get why theres no clockwork! but I'm totally clueless on how to back up with out it, or if you even can make one with stock recovery?
Can I keep CM9, and flash a kernel with rouge recovery to the make a nandroid? Or is there another way to go about this (I like to make nandroid often as a easy way to restore data after I play around with stuff and brake Wifi or what have you, and scrap unneeded back ups as I find out what I can and cant do with MY phone.)
I really really love Cryogen 9 (yeah its not as far along as I would like it to be ex- cm7 for the ns4g or kangs aokp builds) But there a team I'm familiar with. An I like there stuff, but I'm really nerves about where I go from here if/when i decide to change to something else.What are the guide lines for flashing from cm9 to say another ICS build? and is CM9 compatible with other kernels or only the one that is came packed with?
B) can someone straight up make a new clean thread with proper flashing tech. and no filler or out dated info then the have a mod stick it and close it>>>>simplify this for those of us that know what were doing....until things go funk for some reason, or another and that leaves ,us we are completely lost!
Well after wrighting my first novel (joke haha) I would like to thank everyone thats put up there time and money to make phones OURS and more powerful then what hit the shelfs an allowing me to get the most customized electronic device I have ever seen with the exception of my PC. Clapping

If you want to backup your system with the stock cm9a2 kernel, just mobile odin/odin el26 kernel/recovery, boot into cwm, flash stock cm9a2 kernel, now while still in cwm do a nand backup. That way it will be a full backup.
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I know I'm a little late, but there is CWM for the AOKP rom. The FC07 BootImg on the e4gtuato.zip file worked fine for me on the older version which was based off of FC15.

faceyourfaces said:
I know I'm a little late, but there is CWM for the AOKP rom. The FC07 BootImg on the e4gtuato.zip file worked fine for me on the older version which was based off of FC15.
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I would try that, but these folks have me scurred about using cwm within aokp. I have flashed between caulks ics/venum ice, anakonda/mijjz goodness,xplod mini and a couple other ICS roms all from cwm with absolutely no issues so far.
I am thoroughly confused right now. I am on aokp build 28 with a few significant issues and not sure what what direction to go next. I know how to get out of aokp safely now, but not sure which rom i want to go to, little issues with each that I dont know how to fix yet.

krook250 said:
I would try that, but these folks have me scurred about using cwm within aokp. I have flashed between caulks ics/venum ice, anakonda/mijjz goodness,xplod mini and a couple other ICS roms all from cwm with absolutely no issues so far.
I am thoroughly confused right now. I am on aokp build 28 with a few significant issues and not sure what what direction to go next. I know how to get out of aokp safely now, but not sure which rom i want to go to, little issues with each that I dont know how to fix yet.
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Read this thread it happens when using ics kernel with cwm .and then tell us u want to use cwm with a ics kernel.....it bricks phones please read it and understand
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495
That's why people are using Odin to get el26 GB on their phones to flash with
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krook250 said:
I would try that, but these folks have me scurred about using cwm within aokp. I have flashed between caulks ics/venum ice, anakonda/mijjz goodness,xplod mini and a couple other ICS roms all from cwm with absolutely no issues so far.
I am thoroughly confused right now. I am on aokp build 28 with a few significant issues and not sure what what direction to go next. I know how to get out of aokp safely now, but not sure which rom i want to go to, little issues with each that I dont know how to fix yet.
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If you have been having luck thats fine but I can not see how you have not noticed int eh OP of the ICS roms and the OP of the recoveries it gives you instructions on what to do and what not to do. Also there are quite a few threads in here about the horror stories of the now infamous blue light of death. Once again if you have escaped this then maybe you should tell us your secret to success. Honestly the few extra steps it takes to ensure your phone stays your phone is well worth it.
Like Epix has posted please read up a little just incase something happens to you or anyone else who claims no problems so you know how to help yourself. Hopefully we wont have to see a I Think I just bricked my Phone thread from you.
Odin EL26 CWM and basically everything else stays the same after that... except you would need to either reflash the ICS rom you are using or have a copy of the kernel readily available

Epix4G said:
Read this thread it happens when using ics kernel with cwm .and then tell us u want to use cwm with a ics kernel.....it bricks phones please read it and understand
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495
That's why people are using Odin to get el26 GB on their phones to flash with
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I've read that, hence the reason for my posts. I am not going to load cwm and start flashing away. From aokp, I will odin back to GB before I flash any new ICS roms. I also won't be flashing between other ICS roms, even ones I have done before with no problems. I odin every time now, but it is putting a serious damper on my flashing addiction.
I could flash 3 roms in the time it takes me to odin back to GB, lol!

krook250 said:
I've read that, hence the reason for my posts. I am not going to load cwm and start flashing away. From aokp, I will odin back to GB before I flash any new ICS roms. I also won't be flashing between other ICS roms, even ones I have done before with no problems. I odin every time now, but it is putting a serious damper on my flashing addiction.
I could flash 3 roms in the time it takes me to odin back to GB, lol!
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I don't Odin to stock all the time I mobile Odin the el26 cwm kernel and then boot strait into recovery as the GB kernel won't boot the ics ROM and then I flash from there but I also u caulks format all too ....
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Epix4G said:
I don't Odin to stock all the time I mobile Odin the el26 cwm kernel and then boot strait into recovery as the GB kernel won't boot the ics ROM and then I flash from there but I also u caulks format all too ....
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Thus is what I used to do at first myself I would flash the CWM kernel then just nandroid back my old rom and keep it moving. It just basically seems that as long as you do everything in a GB kernel based recovery as long as it is not the Touch recovery you should be OK
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I am gonna look into mobile Odin so i don't have to be sitting at a PC to do work. So if I go back to gb and get my modem biz straightened out then flash an ics rom, my modem changes will stick?
It seems like this issue is isolated to sprint only, right? Much buddy on att is flashing ics over ics like crazy. And he said he hasn't seen anything like this over there.
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I've only used the ICS recovery on AOKP to change modems and flash GB roms because it probably wouldn't work too well with other ICS roms.
krook250 said:
I am gonna look into mobile Odin so i don't have to be sitting at a PC to do work. So if I go back to gb and get my modem biz straightened out then flash an ics rom, my modem changes will stick?
It seems like this issue is isolated to sprint only, right? Much buddy on att is flashing ics over ics like crazy. And he said he hasn't seen anything like this over there.
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UPDATE: It seems that using recovery on Touchwiz-based ICS roms (like Blend ICS) is safe but it is much more dangerous on roms built from stock (like CM9). Your buddy must be using roms based off of leaked builds and not stock AOSP.
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If you flashed back to Gingerbread to change your modems and installed an Ice Cream Sandwich rom over it the modem should stay.

faceyourfaces said:
I've only used the ICS recovery on AOKP to change modems and flash GB roms because it probably wouldn't work too well with other ICS roms.
UPDATE: It seems that using recovery on Touchwiz-based ICS roms (like Blend ICS) is safe but it is much more dangerous on roms built from stock (like CM9). Your buddy must be using roms based off of leaked builds and not stock AOSP.
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If you flashed back to Gingerbread to change your modems and installed an Ice Cream Sandwich rom over it the modem should stay.
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It has nothing to do with that it's the ics kernel and aosp and tw is using the same kernel but with minor changed , because there is no source released there can't be a built from source aosp kernel ....there is no safe ics kernel with cwm when source is released they will fix it, but the note has the same problem
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Epix4G said:
It has nothing to do with that it's the ics kernel and aosp and tw is using the same kernel but with minor changed , because there is no source released there can't be a built from source aosp kernel ....there is no safe ics kernel with cwm when source is released they will fix it, but the note has the same problem
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The recovery that came with Blend ICS worked fine for me though. Trying to flash using recoveries on other ICS roms gave me soft bricks. Would you have any idea how Blend worked for me?

faceyourfaces said:
The recovery that came with Blend ICS worked fine for me though. Trying to flash using recoveries on other ICS roms gave me soft bricks. Would you have any idea how Blend worked for me?
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It is the same recovery and soft bricks ate usually from not wiping right....but use that kernel with cwm and wipe data and your risking a b.l.o.d. It doesn't take much ....the thing is Samsung changed a couple things with how the data partition is handled and they also changed a couple other partitions and sfhub said he thinks it writes over two of the partitions at the same time when wiping and makes both unusable creating a brick
... writers thing is it damages the emmc somehow and makes it even impossible to jtag it .... Which should really never happen
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Epix4G said:
It is the same recovery and soft bricks ate usually from not wiping right....but use that kernel with cwm and wipe data and your risking a b.l.o.d. It doesn't take much ....the thing is Samsung changed a couple things with how the data partition is handled and they also changed a couple other partitions and sfhub said he thinks it writes over two of the partitions at the same time when wiping and makes both unusable creating a brick
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So the best thing I guess would be to just to avoid ICS recoveries all around.

GB>ICS......why?

Is ics worth people bricking there phone,then going to different phone because there mad?
My brother has ICS and he loves it but I'm not taking the chance of bricking phone.....i keep seeing alota people who bricked there phone.
But is anyone sticking with GB and making more Roms and themes.
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Well as far as sticking with GB development despite working on an ICS rom, sfhub released an update to his GB rom as well.
But if you odin over a stock ics rom and don't do anything stupid you should be pretty safe from bricking. Obviously usual risks for writing firmware to a device apply. Custom rom's should be flashed from GB instead of ICS CWM. Though I have had no issues flashing from ICS, taking risks that you were told not to take is your own fault.

RainMotorsports said:
Well as far as sticking with GB development despite working on an ICS rom, sfhub released an update to his GB rom as well.
But if you odin over a stock ics rom and don't do anything stupid you should be pretty safe from bricking. Obviously usual risks for writing firmware to a device apply. Custom rom's should be flashed from GB instead of ICS CWM. Though I have had no issues flashing from ICS, taking risks that you were told not to take is your own fault.
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Well i know....but I can't take that chance so I'm sticking with gb till its safe lol,but it seems like no one else is making any new roms or atleast themes for GB
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ScubaSteev said:
Well i know....but I can't take that chance so I'm sticking with gb till its safe lol,but it seems like no one else is making any new roms or atleast themes for GB
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Using the 1-click ODIN method to flash an official leaked build of ICS is perfectly safe. Bricking happens when you use a recovery to wipe data and/or caches. Something about the new ICS kernel not being fully compatible with the current recoveries or something. As long as you don't mess with a custom recovery and just ODIN the stock leaked ROM, Kernel, and Recovery, you will not brick the phone. Until Samsung releases the kernel source, stay away from CWM or anything else that's not stock. Let me reiterate this point: stock Samsung leaks flashed via ODIN are safe. Do not touch any CWM/Kernel repacks or flash anything (other than stock leaks) via ODIN or otherwise until Samsung releases the kernel source.

sputnik767 said:
Using the 1-click ODIN method to flash an official leaked build of ICS is perfectly safe. Bricking happens when you use a recovery to wipe data and/or caches. Something about the new ICS kernel not being fully compatible with the current recoveries or something. As long as you don't mess with a custom recovery and just ODIN the stock leaked ROM, Kernel, and Recovery, you will not brick the phone. Until Samsung releases the kernel source, stay away from CWM or anything else that's not stock. Let me reiterate this point: stock Samsung leaks flashed via ODIN are safe. Do not touch any CWM/Kernel repacks or flash anything (other than stock leaks) via ODIN or otherwise until Samsung releases the kernel source.
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Well i might try it.....i don't have a computer though so i still wont beable to try ics
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I've flash a ROM through an ICS Rogue Recovery several times, I just use Calkunlin's format-all ZIP.
I think most of the bricks happened with people flashing over AOKP/CM9/Codename through CWM. I've only flashed TW leaked based ROMs and had no issues, but of course ODIN would be the safest way to go about flashing ICS. All the ICS I flashed were from Rujelus22 (beta's) and FD05 from Agat63 (last night but for a little bit, then format all and flashed back to the previous ICS ROM).
You could always just revert to GB through ODIN, and flash an ICS ROM that way. ICS is great, but if GB is working perfectly fine for you and you don't mind waiting, I say stay on it.

As the poster above stated most bricks happen when coming from CM9/AOKP/AOSP/Codename. I've flashed through fb21 rogue repacked kernel multiple times. I just stay with the leaks(Blend ICS, Blend ICS XPLOD, Venums Anakonda, and Calkulins E4GT 2 ROMs). They work great and I really haven't had any bad experiences with them. I use stock(no cwm) kernels and mobile odin back to fb21 repack to flash new ROMS. I'm a flashaholic and flash back and forth when new versions come out.
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Well when i get a laptop ill have to try it out
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Pick up mobile odin, you can flash sfhub's one-click packages but you'll have to do the modem separately.

Esoteric68 said:
Pick up mobile odin, you can flash sfhub's one-click packages but you'll have to do the modem separately.
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There is that and a good program it is but he can also flash from cwm on gingerbread if he has a kernel installed and id find that preferable. Of course if not can always flash a rogue kernel using mobile odin.
Remember don't use touch recovery!

quick questions can i restore a GB backup on ICS or should i odin back to EL29?

Odin
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tykalx said:
quick questions can i restore a GB backup on ICS or should i odin back to EL29?
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ODIN only. Don't even think about restoring a GB backup on ICS.
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Mark.J.Linskiy said:
I've flash a ROM through an ICS Rogue Recovery several times, I just use Calkunlin's format-all ZIP.
I think most of the bricks happened with people flashing over AOKP/CM9/Codename through CWM. I've only flashed TW leaked based ROMs and had no issues, but of course ODIN would be the safest way to go about flashing ICS. All the ICS I flashed were from Rujelus22 (beta's) and FD05 from Agat63 (last night but for a little bit, then format all and flashed back to the previous ICS ROM).
You could always just revert to GB through ODIN, and flash an ICS ROM that way. ICS is great, but if GB is working perfectly fine for you and you don't mind waiting, I say stay on it.
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I don't think the bricks have anything to do with AOKP/CM9, etc but rather formatting caches from within a GB recovery packed with an ICS kernel. Calk's format-all zip may be a safe way to do it, but from what I've read, it was the format process through recovery that caused the MMC chip failure. And even the AOKP instructions specifically say to flash from GB kernel/recovery because doing it from an ICS kernel/recovery can brick the phone. It's the ICS kernel at fault here, but we're not going to know specifically why until the source is released. Until then, I'd recommend not messing with repacked ICS kernels.

sputnik767 said:
ODIN only. Don't even think about restoring a GB backup on ICS.
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I don't think the bricks have anything to do with AOKP/CM9, etc but rather formatting caches from within a GB recovery packed with an ICS kernel. Calk's format-all zip may be a safe way to do it, but from what I've read, it was the format process through recovery that caused the MMC chip failure. And even the AOKP instructions specifically say to flash from GB kernel/recovery because doing it from an ICS kernel/recovery can brick the phone. It's the ICS kernel at fault here, but we're not going to know specifically why until the source is released. Until then, I'd recommend not messing with repacked ICS kernels.
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Most of the bricks were caused by people flashing over AOPK/CM9/etc, I know it has to do with the Kernel as well but I'm saying that chances are much higher if you're flashing over those ROMs. Thing is, to flash a TW ICS leaked based ROM, I only use Calkulin's format all, but I've also flashed Kernels/Modems through the Rogue repacked after wiping dalvik/cache and haven't had an issue. I know for sure that formatting manually before a ROM flash will probably cause a brick as well and flashing the AOSP based ROMs in an ICS recovery will most likely do the same. Either way, Odin is the safest and best way, especially if some is hesitant.
Hope you don't take it as me being a jerk or anything, just saying it how I know it, even though I may be wrong.

Mark.J.Linskiy said:
Most of the bricks were caused by people flashing over AOPK/CM9/etc, I know it has to do with the Kernel as well but I'm saying that chances are much higher if you're flashing over those ROMs. Thing is, to flash a TW ICS leaked based ROM, I only use Calkulin's format all, but I've also flashed Kernels/Modems through the Rogue repacked after wiping dalvik/cache and haven't had an issue. I know for sure that formatting manually before a ROM flash will probably cause a brick as well and flashing the AOSP based ROMs in an ICS recovery will most likely do the same. Either way, Odin is the safest and best way, especially if some is hesitant.
Hope you don't take it as me being a jerk or anything, just saying it how I know it, even though I may be wrong.
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No, I don't think you are being a jerk at all, and I'm trying to learn something along the way as well. We are both simply trying to prevent another bricked device, I just tend to be extremely cautious, perhaps even unnecessarily cautious. But I came here from an Evo 4G that was bricked by a bad recovery (Team Win Recovery Project touch recovery killed quite a few Evos), so I only use the absolute safest method possible for myself, which is ODIN and stock leaks. I will go back to CWM once the source is released and we know what's actually going on.

sputnik767 said:
No, I don't think you are being a jerk at all, and I'm trying to learn something along the way as well. We are both simply trying to prevent another bricked device, I just tend to be extremely cautious, perhaps even unnecessarily cautious. But I came here from an Evo 4G that was bricked by a bad recovery (Team Win Recovery Project touch recovery killed quite a few Evos), so I only use the absolute safest method possible for myself, which is ODIN and stock leaks. I will go back to CWM once the source is released and we know what's actually going on.
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Yeah, I completely understand. I didn't touch a single ICS ROM until I was asked to do some testing, and even when updated the Beta I would Odin back to GB then flash it. The developer told me he had no issues with flashing the format ZIP and flashing his Betas so I tried it and no issues. It's always good to stay cautious, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with what you're doing, since after-all, it is your personal device. I recommend people use Odin as well, especially for those who aren't completely sure what they're doing. Makes perfect sense for staying away from CWM until the source is out.

All so understandable......better to have more people then less people asking question.s and giving answers....its helping me alot
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ScubaSteev said:
All so understandable......better to have more people then less people asking question.s and giving answers....its helping me alot
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Yup, that's what makes it a good community. Glad it's helping you out, and if you decide to flash, good luck!

Mark.J.Linskiy said:
Yup, that's what makes it a good community. Glad it's helping you out, and if you decide to flash, good luck!
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Ima try to learn a little more then flash....thanks for all info guys/gals
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I've been on ICS roms for about a month (Calkulin's with ICS4ICS theme) and I have to admit that the battery life is absolutely horrible compared to GB roms

How to?: GB to cyan9; cyan9 to GB.

I just need a link or some information on how to install cyanogenmod 9 from EL29, I'm currently running Calkulin's EL29 v3.0, and then I was wondering how do I come back from ICS without bricking?
I'd appreciate the response so i don't screw up my wonderful new phone! ^^
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Always check stickies.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495

Nabbu said:
I just need a link or some information on how to install cyanogenmod 9 from EL29, I'm currently running Calkulin's EL29 v3.0, and then I was wondering how do I come back from ICS without bricking?
I'd appreciate the response so i don't screw up my wonderful new phone! ^^
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http://e4gtcm.blogspot.com/p/cm9-install-guide.html?m=1
To go back to GB just flash the EL26 kernel with CWM through Odin. When rebooting hold power + volume up until it boots into recovery and flash from there.
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FYI - OP on the CM9 page for the rom the very first post has it notated that for the CM9 install guide which is the link that has been posted above. I commend you on being careful but just so you know this forum has more than enough info in it to ensure you do everything correct and minimize your chances of bricking..
http://e4gtcm.blogspot.com/p/cm9-install-guide.html?m=1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1504808
Just a few links which have helped me stay away from issues to date..

nitro_c4 said:
http://e4gtcm.blogspot.com/p/cm9-install-guide.html?m=1
To go back to GB just flash the EL26 kernel with CWM through Odin. When rebooting hold power + volume up until it boots into recovery and flash from there.
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I've heard to odin just the el26 kernel + cwm and also the whole el26 rom before flashing ICS, more specifically the AOsP variations so which is it? Or which is safer? It would kind of make sense to Odin the whole rom to restore a gb nandroid. There's just so many conflicting methods its cornfuzzling
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I've heard to odin just the el26 kernel + cwm and also the whole el26 rom before flashing ICS, more specifically the AOsP variations so which is it? Or which is safer? It would kind of make sense to Odin the whole rom to restore a gb nandroid. There's just so many conflicting methods its cornfuzzling
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No not really conflicting if you look at them slowly. Its basically get back to a GB kernel at the end of the day. They say to odin it since you do not want to or have any other way to get a GB kernel on your phone if you are on ICS. Now you could flash from ICS but that is what people are trying to avoid since it could cause a brick.
Basically: When on ICS
1. Odin a GB CWM recovery(now others have used EL29 and Rogue recoveries as well) I personally use a stock CWM recovery from CM7 and Miui
2. From there you can wipe and flash and do nandroids as normal.
Option: Safest bet
1. One Click Odin your choice of any of the GB stock roms by sfhub
I have used both methods so far with no problems. I had CM9 on my phone then used odin to go back to the recovery used with CM7 and then I nandroid back my UnNamed Rom. I did this a few times without issue. I have never heard of any issues with anyone using any of the above two methods I mentioned. If someone has please inform us

playya said:
No not really conflicting if you look at them slowly. Its basically get back to a GB kernel at the end of the day. They say to odin it since you do not want to or have any other way to get a GB kernel on your phone if you are on ICS. Now you could flash from ICS but that is what people are trying to avoid since it could cause a brick.
Basically: When on ICS
1. Odin a GB CWM recovery(now others have used EL29 and Rogue recoveries as well) I personally use a stock CWM recovery from CM7 and Miui
2. From there you can wipe and flash and do nandroids as normal.
Option: Safest bet
1. One Click Odin your choice of any of the GB stock roms by sfhub
I have used both methods so far with no problems. I had CM9 on my phone then used odin to go back to the recovery used with CM7 and then I nandroid back my UnNamed Rom. I did this a few times without issue. I have never heard of any issues with anyone using any of the above two methods I mentioned. If someone has please inform us
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I was more confused about whether to Odin(mobileodin) just the kernel + cwm or the entire rom, all the install instructions say Odin kernel with cwm(usually el26) which is what I'm using for ics, I use rogue gunslinger for GB, but then I've seen ppl say to Odin the entire rom before restoring/upgrading/changing roms so i was like
Wtf which is it do I Odin the kernel or the whole rom when i upgrade :-| I've been trying to figure that out for a cpl days b4 I upgrade my AOKP to build 31, cuz I really don't want a paperweight
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
I was more confused about whether to Odin(mobileodin) just the kernel + cwm or the entire rom, all the install instructions say Odin kernel with cwm(usually el26) which is what I'm using for ics, I use rogue gunslinger for GB, but then I've seen ppl say to Odin the entire rom before restoring/upgrading/changing roms so i was like
Wtf which is it do I Odin the kernel or the whole rom when i upgrade :-| I've been trying to figure that out for a cpl days b4 I upgrade my AOKP to build 31, cuz I really don't want a paperweight
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I've searched around and I don't know how to just odin a kernel, so I use sfhubs one-click back to el26 then I use autoroot to install el26 +cwm.
I would like to just odin a kernel and flash from there, but i am unsure of the procedure, do you do this:
phone to download mode and connect to odin, use PDA slot and browse to kernel, hit start or GO or whatever it is, then when it starts to reboot, pwr+vlm up to get into recovery, then get my flash on from there?

I use mobile Odin for the kernel alone but I believe in PC Odin you can just select PDA and choose the kernel. Tar and flash it that way then when it starts to reboot either catch the volume up + power on the splash screen or do like I do and snatch the battery real quick and the boot to recovery, everytime I try to hit it while its rebooting Im too slow
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
I use mobile Odin for the kernel alone but I believe in PC Odin you can just select PDA and choose the kernel. Tar and flash it that way then when it starts to reboot either catch the volume up + power on the splash screen or do like I do and snatch the battery real quick and the boot to recovery, everytime I try to hit it while its rebooting Im too slow
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I havent used mobile odin, but I hear nothing but good things, so I think I am gonna grab it and try it out. That way I wont need to be at a PC to get my flash on.
With mobile odin, do I keep the kernel on my sdcard, same place I put roms and such? And when using mobile odin, if the file is *.tar.md5, do I remove the .md5 from the file name first? Do I use the flash firmware option?

I've done this at least 25 times recently; so easy, I'll post instructions here again.
1. get Mobile Odin(time saver to the max)
2. Get EL26 kernel (TAR version)
3. flash EL26 kernel in Mobile Odin (takes 10 seconds)
4. Boot into recovery(you will have the proper one now!)
5. Flash away
if you do this either coming from A GB rom to ICS, or going back to one, Guaranteed success...
Simple as can be; not sure why this keeps getting asked.....
The kernel is 8.1 mb, which exceeds the attachment size, so I can't post it here, but its all over this forum..

krook250 said:
I havent used mobile odin, but I hear nothing but good things, so I think I am gonna grab it and try it out. That way I wont need to be at a PC to get my flash on.
With mobile odin, do I keep the kernel on my sdcard, same place I put roms and such? And when using mobile odin, if the file is *.tar.md5, do I remove the .md5 from the file name first? Do I use the flash firmware option?
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Yea u can keep em in a folder on internal SD that's what I do and just open the location it will find all tar files in that location then just select and follow directions, mOdin works really good its quick and no flash counter in crease or yellow triangle. Its alot easier to flash ics than having to go to the PC cuz u can just Odin el26+cwm kernel boot to recovery and get ur flash on without all the hassle of drivers and connecting a USB etc
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
Yea u can keep em in a folder on internal SD that's what I do and just open the location it will find all tar files in that location then just select and follow directions, mOdin works really good its quick and no flash counter in crease or yellow triangle. Its alot easier to flash ics than having to go to the PC cuz u can just Odin el26+cwm kernel boot to recovery and get ur flash on without all the hassle of drivers and connecting a USB etc
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sweet thanks, gonna grab the app and go grab the kernel as well. can't wait!!!
If I just cut my 30 min. flashing time down to 10 mins, that means I can flash 3x more, frick yeah!! Now I just need the new cna to drop so I can flash that girl.

wase4711 said:
I've done this at least 25 times recently; so easy, I'll post instructions here again.
1. get Mobile Odin(time saver to the max)
2. Get EL26 kernel (TAR version)
3. flash EL26 kernel in Mobile Odin (takes 10 seconds)
4. Boot into recovery(you will have the proper one now!)
5. Flash away
if you do this either coming from A GB rom to ICS, or going back to one, Guaranteed success...
Simple as can be; not sure why this keeps getting asked.....
The kernel is 8.1 mb, which exceeds the attachment size, so I can't post it here, but its all over this forum..
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My question was for when going back to gb from ics if I needed to Odin the whole rom, I had seen both kernel+cwm only and whole rom and just wanted to make sure if I just flashed the kernel only I'd be OK more for clarification than an actual how to for me since I know how to Odin both, just wanted to make sure I was odining the right things b4 I jumped and landed on a brick after I had seen someone say to Odin the whole rom I wanted to be sure I was doing it right since I had seen both ways mentioned. Its a little more confusing than my damn evo where I'm always on the same recovery no matter what, and a bit scary with the bricks flying around like a construction site filled with monkeys on meth
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
My question was for when going back to gb from ics if I needed to Odin the whole rom, I had seen both kernel+cwm only and whole rom and just wanted to make sure if I just flashed the kernel only I'd be OK more for clarification than an actual how to for me since I know how to Odin both, just wanted to make sure I was odining the right things b4 I jumped and landed on a brick after I had seen someone say to Odin the whole rom I wanted to be sure I was doing it right since I had seen both ways mentioned. Its a little more confusing than my damn evo where I'm always on the same recovery no matter what, and a bit scary with the bricks flying around like a construction site filled with monkeys on meth
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[email protected] monkeys on Meth!!!
Yeah, flashing with this phone is different from the htc stuff, but once you get the hang of it, its just as easy!

wase4711 said:
[email protected] monkeys on Meth!!!
Yeah, flashing with this phone is different from the htc stuff, but once you get the hang of it, its just as easy!
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Yea ur post cleared it up for me, just gets confusing when. Theres multiple methods recommended I was 99% sure I just needed to Odin the kernel only but wanted the clarification before I jumped off that bridge, not too comfortable jumping off a bridge when I'm not sure how deep the water is
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well, like the asshole who pushed me in the deep end of the pool when I was 12 and didn't know how to swim told me, "figure it out or else", sometimes you gotta just go for it!!
Actually, I am nervous too when I try something new the first time, but, once you figure out who really knows what they are talking about, its easy to just pm them and ask them how they do it..
You obviously know your stuff man, so you will be an expert with this phone in no time!!

I did this going from Blazer 4.1 to CM9 with out any issues.
wase4711 said:
I've done this at least 25 times recently; so easy, I'll post instructions here again.
1. get Mobile Odin(time saver to the max)
2. Get EL26 kernel (TAR version)
3. flash EL26 kernel in Mobile Odin (takes 10 seconds)
4. Boot into recovery(you will have the proper one now!)
5. Flash away
if you do this either coming from A GB rom to ICS, or going back to one, Guaranteed success...
Simple as can be; not sure why this keeps getting asked.....
The kernel is 8.1 mb, which exceeds the attachment size, so I can't post it here, but its all over this forum..
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Quick question.. I can flash EL26 kernel again in mobile odin and should be able to restore my Blazer backup without any issues, correct? Blazer was backed up using Rogue EL29 kernel. Thanks!

Plus there's 5 android devices in my house all with different flashing methods it gets confusing keeping em all straight, got the evo4g, et4g, kindle fire, MoPho, and a gNote the et4g is the first Sammy I've used with Odin, my first android was an intercrap I mean intercept and it used the patched swupdater instead of Odin, so I'm still getting the hang of this method. I can flash the evo, kindle, intercept and photon blindfolded and drunker than a slut on prom night
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Nico^APEX said:
I did this going from Blazer 4.1 to CM9 with out any issues.
Quick question.. I can flash EL26 kernel again in mobile odin and should be able to restore my Blazer backup without any issues, correct? Blazer was backed up using Rogue EL29 kernel. Thanks!
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yes sir, that is correct!
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
Plus there's 5 android devices in my house all with different flashing methods it gets confusing keeping em all straight, got the evo4g, et4g, kindle fire, MoPho, and a gNote the et4g is the first Sammy I've used with Odin, my first android was an intercrap I mean intercept and it used the patched swupdater instead of Odin, so I'm still getting the hang of this method. I can flash the evo, kindle, intercept and photon blindfolded and drunker than a slut on prom night
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I don't know how you keep all that **** straight; in my house, we ALL go with one "brand" of product, just to avoid that nightmare!!
If someone doesn't like it, I tell them that they get no tech support from me if they don't go with "the flow"!

[Q] CWM on ICS?

I've read through most of these threads an I'm pretty sure there is no CWM for ICS for the Epic 4G Touch. Is this correct?
I have the s2 for tmobile and it is practically unbrickable compared to this phone. My friend has the Epic and I installed ICS AOKP. It is way more difficult on his phone. I don't understand why it is so different. Given, we have different hardware, but neither one of us have the source for ICS or kernel. But I do have the same CWM no matter what rom I'm on.
1. Is it possible to have CWM on the Epic 4G Touch?
2. His ext_sdcard is not showing up. How to I make it work? I tried DirectoryBind to no avail. Maybe I'm doing something wrong.
3. Can i flash zips in ICS recovery? Ive never seen the recovery it put me in before.
4. Am I missing something?
I was under time costraints when helping him out and honestly I'm just happy i got AOKP running on his phone without any issues.
I appreciate all the work everyone has done so please don't take anything I said the wrong way.
Thanks in advance an i look firward to hearing from anyone...
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We need ICS kernel source before we can have a proper CWM kernel for ICS.
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We had CWM on ICS for a little bit, but it was causinga ton of bricks because the partitions are handled differently in ICS. I wouldn't attempt to flash anything in ICS recovery because you risk bricking the device. We likely won't have CWM for it until kernel source drops.
If you need to flash something, the best way to do it is to Odin back to EL26, install CWM, and flash everything (ROM, kernel, modem etc.) in one recovery session. Most of the threads for AOSP ICS roms have specific flashing instructions in the first post.
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blackroseMD1 said:
We had CWM on ICS for a little bit, but it was causinga ton of bricks because the partitions are handled differently in ICS. I wouldn't attempt to flash anything in ICS recovery because you risk bricking the device. We likely won't have CWM for it until kernel source drops.
If you need to flash something, the best way to do it is to Odin back to EL26, install CWM, and flash everything (ROM, kernel, modem etc.) in one recovery session. Most of the threads for AOSP ICS roms have specific flashing instructions in the first post.
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Thanks for the info. I guess I'm spoiled on my T989! We dont have source either. We didnt even have a proper leak til yesterday, but ICS runs great because our devs are ridiculous.
I have him running FD26 so I will flash back el26 for the mods. I left his baseband alone and it seems to be running fine.
Thanks again. I appreciate the help
Edit: One more thing. I need to reset the flash counter and remove the yellow triangle every time i go back to cwm right?
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You don't need to remove it, it's really just personal preference and if it makes you happy you can, lol.
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Sn1per 117 said:
You don't need to remove it, it's really just personal preference and if it makes you happy you can, lol.
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Lol! Its just so ugly. I wish there was a kernel for the Epic that had a cool bootanimation. My friend saw my. Darkside kernel boot and wants it now. He doesn't understand because he thinks our phones are identical.
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Look here guys http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25659129#post25659129

I noticed the repacked kernel might not work with AOSP though. I think that I will flash him back to GB until source is released. I don't want want him to accidentally brick.
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xyros7 said:
I noticed the repacked kernel might not work with AOSP though. I think that I will flash him back to GB until source is released. I don't want want him to accidentally brick.
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I've been mostly staying on gb roms just for stability and battery life. As long as you read the instructions and don't try to be insanely flash happy you'll be fine.
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[Q] CM9 Alpha5 Stuck at boot screen

I have model SPH-D710.
I followed the guide here.
I had no problems whatsoever until the final reboot. Now my phone's stuck at the 2nd loading animation... the one with the android on the skateboard in the middle of the screen with the blue things coming at you.
I can boot into Odin mode. I cannot, however, boot into recovery mode.
Is there anything I can do? Did I totally screw up my phone to where I'm going to just have to buy a new one and cry about it because my dad would have killed me for voiding my warranty on "such an expensive phone?"

Try regular booting again
This happened on my og epic and my nexus s when I install cm9
Just holding the power button to tun off them holding it to turn on helps
Also it takes a while to boot up
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gtuansdiamm said:
Try regular booting again
This happened on my og epic and my nexus s when I install cm9
Just holding the power button to tun off them holding it to turn on helps
Also it takes a while to boot up
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I'm going to have to let it charge now... It died sitting on that animation for the last hour.

So... it's still not working

This is what you do
Odin to el29
Get root and recovery (just get cwm nothing fancy like rogue)
Go to recovery
Wipe everything
THen install cm9
You have have flashed from an pics recovery and that doesn't work so use el29
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Don't think it was mentioned but Alpha 5 does not have recovery, this was done to prevent people from doing stupid things like factory resetting or installing roms.
The nightly builds have a safe recovery as well as themselves safe to flash on ICS recoveries if you need to head that direction next. But a replacement for Alpha 5 will be out in eventuality with all that as well.

I got it to work after I flashed back to GB and then back to alpha 5.
No idea what went wrong before, but it works now!

You probably flashed from an ics recovery
For some reason we can't get rom flashing on ics to work
Every one has been using Odin to go to el29 or at least they flashed the kernel with the recovery of el29 them flashed the rom
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EL29?
Am I missing something here? I've been using EL26 to flash.
Should I be using EL29? Because i don't want be doing something that can potentially harm my phone.
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gilbydakid said:
EL29?
Am I missing something here? I've been using EL26 to flash.
Should I be using EL29? Because i don't want be doing something that can potentially harm my phone.
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You are ok with EL26.... just keep following what the OP says in the rom threads and you will be alright.

gilbydakid said:
EL29?
Am I missing something here? I've been using EL26 to flash.
Should I be using EL29? Because i don't want be doing something that can potentially harm my phone.
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You can use the EL26 kernel on EL29 some people flash just the EL26 kernel for recovery, other people odin to EL29 and use the auto rooter to flash the EL26 CWM or EL29 Rogue kernel. Last i checked the CM9 brick from flashing with Rogue is a simple soft brick easily fixed with odin.

gtuansdiamm said:
You probably flashed from an ics recovery
For some reason we can't get rom flashing on ics to work
Every one has been using Odin to go to el29 or at least they flashed the kernel with the recovery of el29 them flashed the rom
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My friend you may have a little homework to do. Things have improved greatly for us in reference to flashing roms with certain recoveries and kernels for ICS. I for one use the nightlys for CM9 and flashing roms and wiping has been fixed.
Do yourself a favor and stroll through development and read up on the new stuff that has come about over the last couple weeks or so.
Enjoy guys and OP glad you got your phone back up and running. Next time don't panic!

playya said:
My friend you may have a little homework to do. Things have improved greatly for us in reference to flashing roms with certain recoveries and kernels for ICS. I for one use the nightlys for CM9 and flashing roms and wiping has been fixed.
Do yourself a favor and stroll through development and read up on the new stuff that has come about over the last couple weeks or so.
Enjoy guys and OP glad you got your phone back up and running. Next time don't panic!
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Hey if it ain't broke don't fix it you know
I really don't know current happenings in the Dec section cause well I've been busy.
Lets just keep things friendly only say this cause well I don't know you tone
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