Defcon NFC-related stuff - NFC Hacking

I'm not sure how many XDAers go to Defcon each year, but there were some interesting NFC-related talks. For those who don't know, Defcon is an annual computer security convention in Las Vegas.
Here's are the presentations from a couple of the talks. If the slides don't work on the site, just download the PDF on the top right of the frame... replace hxxp with http. "new" users can't post links ):
Charlie MIller: Don't Stand So Close To Me: Exploring the NFC Attack Surface:
http://korben.info/wp-content/uploa...iller/DEFCON-20-Miller-NFC-Attack-Surface.pdf
tldr; how phones can be attacked via NFC, why you should disable NFC if you don't use it, etc
Eddie Lee: NFC Hacking: The Easy Way
http://korben.info/wp-content/uploads/defcon/SpeakerPresentations/Lee/DEFCON-20-Lee-NFC-Hacking.pdf
tldr; NFC proxy using phones to relay tags over the internet. Interesting because it can even work with credit cards
There were some other NFC talks but I didn't see them so I can't comment on those.

Cool thanks for the info
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Interesting.
Thanks for the info!

Sure. It's a bit off topic but I spent my time in line at the convention trying to get the serial driver on my skyrocket to interface with the Defcon badge's serial port. With a usb host adapter my phone would power the badge but I couldn't seem to make my ftdi kernel module work.
The Defcon badge was programmable over serial, had vga, ps/2, and 7 or so programmable leds, plus a short range ir for communication between badges. Would have been a cool hack to control it via android.
Defcon is a great place to learn, I'd recommend going if you ever get the chance
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Since all the links in this thread are TLDR i thinks its a good idea to post the youtube videos for this talks.
Charlie Miller:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpiuKEy0SkY
Eddie Lee:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ElZBI9PufY
About what Eddie Lee is talking here is a cool couple links
http://sourceforge.net/projects/nfcproxy/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_vYuLyfw3E
Have fun

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Dualshock 3

Can the DUALSHOCK 3 be used as an accessory to play emulated games on the Captivate. Such as the PSX emulator.
Thanks
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Well, first, it would seem that we would need a driver written for android for the controller. Looks like an outfit out of china made one for Windows Vista/7 to get the dualshock3 to work via bluetooth, which is what we'd use, of course.
Secondly, the psx emulator for android would need input-mapping, so the controls could be directed by the dualshock3. I don't know if the app does or not, but this sounds like a hella-awesome idea!
They have the BGP-100 bluetooth gamepad, and it costs about $25 for the hardware, and another $10 for the driver... (lame-sauce, for sure)
Now, I'm just getting into android development, and I bet android drivers couldn't be sufficiently coded using App Inventor! LOL But maybe someone else could look into it, for sure.
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Actually, just found this thread - forum (dot) xda-developers (dot) com/showthread.php?p=7132122
that linked to here - tomasz (dot) sterna (dot) tv/2010/02/play-games-on-nokia-n900-with-ps3-sixaxis-controller/
and tomasz states that it should be relatively straight forward to recompile for android. Looks like I'm gonna try and step up to the sdk. Woot!
Thanks for the info. What about using the controller with the SNES emulator. Would the same logic apply. Looks like the SNES emulator has support for external controllers.
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Toejamfloyd said:
Well, first, it would seem that we would need a driver written for android for the controller. Looks like an outfit out of china made one for Windows Vista/7 to get the dualshock3 to work via bluetooth, which is what we'd use, of course.
Secondly, the psx emulator for android would need input-mapping, so the controls could be directed by the dualshock3. I don't know if the app does or not, but this sounds like a hella-awesome idea!
They have the BGP-100 bluetooth gamepad, and it costs about $25 for the hardware, and another $10 for the driver... (lame-sauce, for sure)
Now, I'm just getting into android development, and I bet android drivers couldn't be sufficiently coded using App Inventor! LOL But maybe someone else could look into it, for sure.
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Actually, just found this thread - forum (dot) xda-developers (dot) com/showthread.php?p=7132122
that linked to here - tomasz (dot) sterna (dot) tv/2010/02/play-games-on-nokia-n900-with-ps3-sixaxis-controller/
and tomasz states that it should be relatively straight forward to recompile for android. Looks like I'm gonna try and step up to the sdk. Woot!
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If you or anybody else get this working, I'll be sending 10 bucks to your/their paypal account. However, you should probably be aware that Samsung has implemented their own proprietary bluetooth stack in place of BlueZ (or BluZ or whatever the vanilla BT is), and it's a bit wonky - this is why the Wii controllers won't work with the Galaxy S phones. Hopefully we can get around this or better yet replace the Samsung BT with the vanilla implementation and get rid of the weird-ness.
Good luck!
this would be GREAT as i don't have a Wiimote but four dualshock 3s!
So, after doing a little digging, here's what I've come up with.
After reading this thread over on the androidcommunity,
androidcommunity [dot] com/forums/f7/bluetooth-3-0-is-not-enabled-in-android-2-1-or-2-2-a-39462/
It looks like us Captivate users are stuck until Google integrates BT 3.0 into android. As of now, BlueZ has a kernel that supports BT 3.0, BlueZ 4.71, Google just hasn't moved towards implementing it.
I'm still going to look into getting this to work, but I'm gonna need alot of coffee.
Would be great. Let me know if u get it workin.
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So, now that Bluez is included in the Cognition 2.2 b6 ROM...that means we can use the bluetooth controller? I'm now digging this more and more.
bump^^^
I've been searching for an answer to this question. I hope we can get a way to use our dualshock 3 controllers on our Android That would be the last piece of the puzzle for true nostalgia and would help us touchscreen users out a lot.

App idea

I don't know if it exists already but i was wanting and looking for a app that lets you browse through ols newspaper articles ya know like have you seen one of those csi episodes where theyre investigating a case and then all of a sudden they are in the library trying to find a 1850 article under some scope. That would be cool to have on the phone, just someone go and scan all those papers and make a app, lol.
thank you
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Giving this a bump be a use I love the idea
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No4g4Me said:
I don't know if it exists already but i was wanting and looking for a app that lets you browse through ols newspaper articles ya know like have you seen one of those csi episodes where theyre investigating a case and then all of a sudden they are in the library trying to find a 1850 article under some scope. That would be cool to have on the phone, just someone go and scan all those papers and make a app, lol.
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I imagine there would be too many licensing issues with the newspaper companies to make this a reality.
true but if it were a hombrew made for educational purpose and freedom of press to public act, then lets get something cooked up huh.. wink.. wink..
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but at 99¢ i could see this app make easily a million dollars your right though theyll prob want some of that piggy bank. given them one penny per download, i don't think you'll have to pay any royalties to individuals in the articles seeing how they all ready been dead for decades, whats a newspaper worth nowadays anyway right but you are saying that you would have to get the permission still from lets says new york times to make it into a digital copy? that would suck because you know darn well that they arent doing anything with it anymore anyways except keeping all that good news in a library.
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I like this idea
This sounds like something that maybe google's open book alliance may be interested in. Those old papers should be in the public domain. Depends on the copyright, I guess.
If it was made into an open source project I think it would take off
here is a site similar to the idea
chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/
and even this site could maybe use a touch of tapatalk style having the type of articles categories into years, types ex; murders, scams, business, ect... then at the end of all the parents have the article in a internel view or external view browser.
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Another site is archive.org

We need an NFC revolution!

Hey all!
I love NFC, just as much as you - seeing as you're reading this in the NFC section, I assume you use NFC regularly. I think it'll be fantastic when it's main stream, however for it to become a truly mainstream it needs more data type. just like you get vCards, URL's, SMS's etc - I think we need more help from Google, Microsoft and all the hardware vendors - along with the NFC forum itself - to help extend NFC's capabilities.
Sure we on XDA know how to extend it's abilities - either by hacking it or knowing which app lets you do a certain additional function. Unfortunately normal members of the public won't know about the XDA way or about the apps. For example the problem is you can write an NFC tag to connect to a a device to a particular wifi network, however you need the app that wrote the tag or another app that understands what to do with the tag for it to work. Now the problem is that your guests probably won't have the app installed, so you'll have to connect them manually or download the app over 2G/3G/4G and depending on network strength - just like my area - could take a long time!
What came first, the chicken or the egg? What came first the wifi or the adoption of more standard / capabilities, across OS's / vendors ?
There are plenty more examples, but this is the most useful and self explanatory I can think of.
Please, please, please read my blog post about this and if you so wish, sign the petition, message the NFC Forum telling them to get their butt's into gear - message Google and the Android dev's do what you can to make NFC better and help it's adoption :good:
http://jaytongarnett.blogspot.co.uk/2012/09/is-nfc-over-rated-we-need-nfc-20.html
TheLegendaryJay said:
Hey all!
I love NFC, just as much as you - seeing as you're reading this in the NFC section, I assume you use NFC regularly. I think it'll be fantastic when it's main stream, however for it to become a truly mainstream it needs more data type. just like you get vCards, URL's, SMS's etc - I think we need more help from Google, Microsoft and all the hardware vendors - along with the NFC forum itself - to help extend NFC's capabilities.
Sure we on XDA know how to extend it's abilities - either by hacking it or knowing which app lets you do a certain additional function. Unfortunately normal members of the public won't know about the XDA way or about the apps. For example the problem is you can write an NFC tag to connect to a a device to a particular wifi network, however you need the app that wrote the tag or another app that understands what to do with the tag for it to work. Now the problem is that your guests probably won't have the app installed, so you'll have to connect them manually or download the app over 2G/3G/4G and depending on network strength - just like my area - could take a long time!
What came first, the chicken or the egg? What came first the wifi or the adoption of more standard / capabilities, across OS's / vendors ?
There are plenty more examples, but this is the most useful and self explanatory I can think of.
Please, please, please read my blog post about this and if you so wish, sign the petition, message the NFC Forum telling them to get their butt's into gear - message Google and the Android dev's do what you can to make NFC better and help it's adoption :good:
http://jaytongarnett.blogspot.co.uk/2012/09/is-nfc-over-rated-we-need-nfc-20.html
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As much as it pains me to say it...we need Apple to implement native NFC support in iOS. I was really excited to see Passbook (or whatever its called) and was nearly positive this meant NFC support for the iPhone 5. Unfortunately, not this go round. It's ok though, wait a couple iterations of iOS/iPhone and NFC will finally be deemed acceptable for the public...magically...revolutionarily.
I know, and I think why the heck should we wait? Apple might only bring NFC with the iPhone 7. What's the harm in trying to change it now?
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I haven't used it much, but I am for interested. I guess I need a better understanding of its purpose and how I can use it in everyday situations. I already use wifi-direct for a bunch of transferring.
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booyakasha said:
As much as it pains me to say it...we need Apple to implement native NFC support in iOS. I was really excited to see Passbook (or whatever its called) and was nearly positive this meant NFC support for the iPhone 5. Unfortunately, not this go round. It's ok though, wait a couple iterations of iOS/iPhone and NFC will finally be deemed acceptable for the public...magically...revolutionarily.
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The fanboys say that apple is afraid of NFC till they can develop a version of their own that is "Secure"...
Souler19 said:
The fanboys say that apple is afraid of NFC till they can develop a version of their own that is "Secure"...
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Yeah, they need something the can control - they need to devise a way to make money out of it otherwise it's not in their interest.
I know this is XDA Developers and we can make NFC do what we want, but we all have people in our lives who won't even use NFC because they don't know about it or know what it can do which is why I'd like us to make a change at the OS level on behalf of all of our non-technical friends and family. Let's get the big players like Google, Microsoft and anyone else that's already using NFC in their products to want to make a change - for Grandma
Lets be honest guys, the majority of people around us have iPhones, mainly 4s's. Imagine if all of them had NFC and we could all play nicely sharking playlists and sending phone numbers to eachother?
nfc
TheLegendaryJay said:
Yeah, they need something the can control - they need to devise a way to make money out of it otherwise it's not in their interest.
I know this is XDA Developers and we can make NFC do what we want, but we all have people in our lives who won't even use NFC because they don't know about it or know what it can do which is why I'd like us to make a change at the OS level on behalf of all of our non-technical friends and family. Let's get the big players like Google, Microsoft and anyone else that's already using NFC in their products to want to make a change - for Grandma
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NFC is the next big thing just give it time. once it rolls out. more in new devices we shall see. it's development grow more and any phone worth it's salt will have to have it
I agree - a revolution. Right now, when I mention NFC to most people they give me that "HUH???" expression. Then I have to explain what it is and then I have to give them examples of what it can do. Seems like almost no one knows what it is or has any idea all the cool things you can do with it.
What we need is a Samsung or Google or HTC to run a commercial that features people using NFC - with tags to automate stuff at home/work, with Google Wallet to pay for stuff, other things. Then the average person would be like "oh I know what that is - I saw it on a commercial"
Unfortunately right now it seems like it's just us tech geeks who know about it...
hollywoodfrodo said:
I agree - a revolution. Right now, when I mention NFC to most people they give me that "HUH???" expression. Then I have to explain what it is and then I have to give them examples of what it can do. Seems like almost no one knows what it is or has any idea all the cool things you can do with it.
What we need is a Samsung or Google or HTC to run a commercial that features people using NFC - with tags to automate stuff at home/work, with Google Wallet to pay for stuff, other things. Then the average person would be like "oh I know what that is - I saw it on a commercial"
Unfortunately right now it seems like it's just us tech geeks who know about it...
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Dont call us geeks;p j/k
Well, we've already got a very usefull feature for NFC like very fast files transfer, the only what we need is more phones that support it. It will be as famous as bluetooth i think hopefully
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gallardo5 said:
Dont call us geeks;p j/k
Well, we've already got a very usefull feature for NFC like very fast files transfer, the only what we need is more phones that support it. It will be as famous as bluetooth i think hopefully
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How much data can actually be transfered via NFC? I always thought the bandwidth for transfers was rather small, which is why most items transfered are under 144 bytes.
For larger transfers wouldn't using NFC for the handshake then Bluetooth for data transfers be better?
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I have to admit I am one of those people who do not know about its capabilites. I know what it is and have it activated on my phone, but what can I do with it...I do not know besides I think you can tranfer pictures, phone numbers and stuff.
Can someone maybe explain it in more detail and tell us about its uses? Maybe I should have done a search about NFC (Near Field Communications) before I wrote this.
P.S. I wish more people would put the acronym meaning after the acronym, like I did above, in this forum...ooh that gives me an idea!! (light in head goes off!! lol)
Psichi said:
How much data can actually be transfered via NFC? I always thought the bandwidth for transfers was rather small, which is why most items transfered are under 144 bytes.
For larger transfers wouldn't using NFC for the handshake then Bluetooth for data transfers be better?
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I cannot tell you if there is a limit in filesize, but since the biggest NFC tags you can buy at the moment (afaik) are 8kb, anything beyond 1mb is most likely to take to long to be economic.

[Game support] Ingress Thread....

I think it's time to make this thread as there are millions of people on the game that is still in beta.
The game is Ingress and it's an augmented reality game where two factions fight it out for all man kind. Taking control of portals and working with your faction to create mind fields is the goal, the Enlightened want to conform to a collective in mind control and the Resistance wants to rid the collective mind control for humanity.
The story can be found on line at: www.ingress.com but this thread is designed to assist on the basics, it would be unfair to favor one side over another as tactics of the game are only shared with the respective factions.
Do Not post personal information here, this game puts you in a real life proximity of other players and with that in mind it is easy for something to get personal in real life even though it was not intended.
This is a place to better understand the game itself and to collaborate for the community to learn everything involved.
I do not have any control over beta codes nor does anyone else in our community, don't ask and do not try to share your account or you will be banned, they do know everything you do in the game. Do not try to sell codes given to you by Ingress as they have been known to give out batch codes that are intended to be shared not profited from.
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Sounds like fun too bad I don't have an invite.
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J-ROCK said:
Sounds like fun too bad I don't have an invite.
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To get an invite you need to be creative, you go to your Google+ account and friend Ingress then create an image or anything supporting ingress in it and post it using these shouts.
@ingress
@ingressinvite
@inhressenlightened
@ingressresistance
Make sure it's publicly viewable so others can add comments to it and the better the idea the better your chances are, the ingress site email link isn't being watched but if you watch ingress on G+ you will see they release codes in batches try to time it in those posting times.
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Great idea for a thread. I'm playing the game and I just love it. I'm sure I miss a lot of options though.
At least now I know how many android phones are in my neighborhood
chastity said:
Great idea for a thread. I'm playing the game and I just love it. I'm sure I miss a lot of options though.
At least now I know how many android phones are in my neighborhood
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There are a few really good features on the desktop as well, they keep adding stuff in though. The one I thought was cool was on the desktop login when your on the map if you go over to the right and you see the +/- to zoom in there's a little yellow image of a person if you go over it with the mouse it will lean over to the left. Drag and drop that little yellow guy and it will give you street view of the location your looking at.
Finally got my invite
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The game rules!!
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The game rules!!
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I know right? Im shocked people aren't using the thread.
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Captured my first portal riding the van home from work lol
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how long does it take to get a invite from the site itself...put one in this morning...
shrty4luv said:
how long does it take to get a invite from the site itself...put one in this morning...
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If you sent in your email then they haven't even looked at those from the beginning but the best way is G+ and stay on them. I suggest getting an aftermarket battery (I bought a 4500 mAh battery online) your gonna need it.
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I think this is a great thread. The OP was well written so as not to let this thread turn into a sided one, but rather general info for all for when it comes out of beta. I'll be watching this one for sure. I've been playing for a bit now as well.
There's also a Google community (G plus) called decode ingress that discusses ingress and daily pass codes that can be used to level up.
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tembone said:
There's also a Google community (G plus) called decode ingress that discusses ingress and daily pass codes that can be used to level up.
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The codes are only good for a few seconds now, there's a plug-in you can download for chrome desktop that notifies you the second a code releases but it depends on how many people use it so you have to be quick about it. Go to chrome app store and search for the Ingress plugins, there's 2 of them but remember to go in settings and choose for notifications to be displayed in the top right corner. If you don't it will cover the area you have to type in the code.
There are a few places you can get info for the game, I just figured I would give the section a base location for XDA GS3 members to ask questiins and get answers that you don't have to go all over to find simple facts.
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Orical said:
The codes are only good for a few seconds now, there's a plug-in you can download for chrome desktop that notifies you the second a code releases but it depends on how many people use it so you have to be quick about it. Go to chrome app store and search for the Ingress plugins, there's 2 of them but remember to go in settings and choose for notifications to be displayed in the top right corner. If you don't it will cover the area you have to type in the code.
There are a few places you can get info for the game, I just figured I would give the section a base location for XDA GS3 members to ask questiins and get answers that you don't have to go all over to find simple facts.
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I can never get those dam codes to work!
The Archangel said:
I can never get those dam codes to work!
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Now you know why, 2 million people are trying to punch them in before everyone else.
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Orical said:
Now you know why, 2 million people are trying to punch them in before everyone else.
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I'm starting not to care about the codes
It took me about three weeks to get mine
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The Archangel said:
I'm starting not to care about the codes
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They were cool in the beginning because you got what you needed instead of hoping the farmed portals kick you back something. Now it's like pulling teeth to get anything from the portals and unless your one of those that enjoys decrypting code your kinda outta luck. Once in a while a code works but now that everyone gets the auto responses you'll be lucky to get a chance ti put ut in.
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I've noticed more people reporting that they are having a hard time getting portal keys so I'm gonna post this trick I learned a few weeks back.
You go to a portal you already have a key to and need another for that portal, make sure your just out of range to hack the target and drop the key you have for that portal. Give it at least one minute for the server to register that you dropped the key then back out of ingress, turn on ingress again and you should see the portal and the key close together , now make sure the target circle only boarders the portal and NOT the key you dropped and hack the portal you should get a key. Once you get it retreave the key you dropped. Now you have a second key to give to someone else.
I've been able to get up to 5 keys on the same portal it doesn't always cough up a key the first time you try it but it will by the second attempt because you don't have one in your items. Good hunting.
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Android-related Job Postings

Just thought I would share this with you guys. Got an email looking for Android Developers among many other things. Salaries are awesome. This is legit.
"Hi Damon,
I am conducting a search for our client in Portland, OR to fill their Android Developer position and am reaching out in case you know of anyone who would be a fit.
Please check out the link below and apply if you are interested in hearing more about the job.
The full job description is listed at the end of this email!
For more details on this job*or to*apply*simply visit CyberCoders:
http://www.CyberCoders.com/qb.aspx?posId=JW1-AtronAndroid&ad=CSNPMSJacob.Wolf
Not a fit for this job?* Search all of our*open jobs:
http://www.CyberCoders.com/qa.aspx?ad=CSNPMSJacob.Wolf&sterm=*
Happy where you are?* Great!* Know someone who isn't?**Refer a friend for this position and if*we place them you'll get an iPad!*
I will only email you when we find a new job that may be a good fit for your background.* You can also use the link below if you would like us to hold off on emails to you about new jobs.
Thank you,
Jacob
Jacob Wolf
Executive Recruiter | View My Bio »
949.861.2488 | [email protected]
If you are a Android Developer, please read on!
We are a growing mobile development company that is looking for talented mobile developer to add to our team in Portland, Oregon. Ideal candidates will be excited to create new Android applications and help us continue to grow as a company using the latest technology of today. This is a full time position and we would love to talk to anyone with GIS or Location based application experience using the Android platform.
This job is a great opportunity to work with some of the latest software & most cutting edge hardware.
What you need for this position:
- Android development experience
- Java development experience is a plus
- Location based mobile application development experience
What's in it for you:
- Flexible work hours and a
- Relaxed work environment.
- Stability of a full time position
- Paid-benefits position, complete with
- Paid Vacation
- Health Insurance
So, if you are a Android Developer please apply today!
JobID: JW1-AtronAndroid"
So if anyone is gonna apply, I'd appreciate the iPad lol. If more than one person applies and gets accepted, I'll run a raffle for the additional iPads on this thread. You can find my full name and email on my Xda profile.
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Um, doesn't it seem kinda odd that they are promoting a competitor for a job opening?? I don't see legit written anywhere on this.. I work for Pepsi, and don't see anyone giving a coke away for referring an employee.. Just my 2¢
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Im a janitor and you get free **** if you apply at my job.
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sparytrainor said:
Um, doesn't it seem kinda odd that they are promoting a competitor for a job opening?? I don't see legit written anywhere on this.. I work for Pepsi, and don't see anyone giving a coke away for referring an employee.. Just my 2¢
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Uhhhhh, how exactly are they promoting a competitor again? I checked out the openings, and the company Web page. The company is grounded and established dude.
So ur saying android and apple aren't competitors?? Again, just my 2¢
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Oh that. The iPad thing. It's probably a 1st gen piece of crap anyways. Which is why they don't mind giving them away. They could be refurbished after cracking them open to get some Apple secrets. I mean a million explanations! We dunno.
I didn't really see that as promoting competition because the company is definitely benefiting more from getting the developer than care about an iPad.
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this is a phishing scam. they really just want your personal info.
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you have to create an account. they are banking that your contact email address will have the same password you use for your account on that site. they probably also try your name at various bank sites with the password you used.
austin420 said:
this is a phishing scam. they really just want your personal info.
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Aside from speculation, how did you come to this conclusion?
austin420 said:
this is a phishing scam. they really just want your personal info.
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you have to create an account. they are banking that your contact email address will have the same password you use for your account on that site. they probably also try your name at various bank sites with the password you used.
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So what? You have to create an account for alot of employers. Fred Meyer, McDonalds, a bunch of places. They use it to keep your user profile and sometimes to keep past applications. By the way, the way I know you don't know for sure is your use of the word "probably".
This is shady as shady gets. They're CLEARLY going above and beyond to sell you on why you should do this. They sound way to desperate. To each there own, but I wouldn't risk it...#SCAM.
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So what? You have to create an account for alot of employers. Fred Meyer, McDonalds, a bunch of places. They use it to keep your user profile and sometimes to keep past applications. By the way, the way I know you don't know for sure is your use of the word "probably".
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okay sir. everybody else is wrong and you are right. this is totally legit. we should all give our personal info to some random site because every body knows that everything on the net is totally trustworthy.
not.
Check it. I'm not trying to prove anyone right or wrong. I just want people to cite what they say. Have some proof and all that. If it's a scam, then someone should report it to the browsers (IE, Mozilla, Google, etc.) so they can stop people from going to it. Let them check it out. Don't just burn on it to burn on it no matter how many "leading" points there are. The only way to know for sure is to go and do it. Someone use a fake email and name and see what happens to it once they "steal" it and whatnot. Feel me?
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Good jobs are never advertised. #scam
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I do know that name - and for you with paranoia... Google is your friend.
Cybercoders has been around for a while - seen them on Dice and I think Monster.
Probably just looking for new coders - sure there's plenty of interest.
Looks legit to me.

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