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When I play games on my phone, one of the biggest issues I notice is the stuttering. On a desktop, it is typically an indication of not having enough free RAM, so the swapfile has to be used instead. Looking at the task manager reveals around 220 MB of RAM used out of 330 MB total RAM. That seems like it isn't enough for some of the games I play on my phone. I can't think of any other reason for the phone to experience the same issues when gaming, but I am far from an expert on phone operating systems.
So, which custom ROM running 2.2.1 or newer uses the least amount of RAM? I am mostly looking for RAM use after a fresh install, just after booting up. If there are some tweaks to increase available RAM by a large margin, those would be nice to know too. I'm thinking I probably just need a new phone if I want to play games.
Syntax42 said:
When I play games on my phone, one of the biggest issues I notice is the stuttering. On a desktop, it is typically an indication of not having enough free RAM, so the swapfile has to be used instead. Looking at the task manager reveals around 220 MB of RAM used out of 330 MB total RAM. That seems like it isn't enough for some of the games I play on my phone. I can't think of any other reason for the phone to experience the same issues when gaming, but I am far from an expert on phone operating systems.
So, which custom ROM running 2.2.1 or newer uses the least amount of RAM? I am mostly looking for RAM use after a fresh install, just after booting up. If there are some tweaks to increase available RAM by a large margin, those would be nice to know too. I'm thinking I probably just need a new phone if I want to play games.
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I'd say Miui, go to that thread and download 1.3.5 and not 1.8.19, cuz that has screen flicker . Accelerometer doesn't work, but the ROM is so smooth.
If you want to use a Gingerbread leak, I think it would have to be CompKid's Urban Vendetta ROM. Its 98MB total size. He leaned it up as much as possible.
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JohnCorleone said:
If you want to use a Gingerbread leak, I think it would have to be CompKid's Urban Vendetta ROM. Its 98MB total size. He leaned it up as much as possible.
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I think era's fat free eh17 leak is 98mb too.
sent from my uncyanogen modded epic 4g. with the key skips.
Does the ROM size have anything to do with RAM use?
Syntax42 said:
Does the ROM size have anything to do with RAM use?
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Well, there's less bloat that can auto open or run in the background which seems to cause the reboots which seems to be the main culprit of the RAM leak.
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Hello, I have the latest stable build of CyanogenMod 10 on my Samsung Galaxy S3 i747 (AT&T) and its specs say it has 2GB of ram, but my phone is saying it only has 1590 MB of ram. Its a weird number so I was just wondering, is it the amount of ram available after what it needs to use to run the OS? Its not really a big deal and I love CM10 but its just something I've been wondering about and can't find anything about it.
Specs:
Galaxy S3 i747
Android 4.2.1
CM10 10.1-20130121
Kernel 3.0.57-cyanogenmod-gb1ea79a
Thanks in advance!
raziel1911 said:
Hello, I have the latest stable build of CyanogenMod 10 on my Samsung Galaxy S3 i747 (AT&T) and its specs say it has 2GB of ram, but my phone is saying it only has 1590 MB of ram. Its a weird number so I was just wondering, is it the amount of ram available after what it needs to use to run the OS? Its not really a big deal and I love CM10 but its just something I've been wondering about and can't find anything about it.
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That number is about right. Even under the stock ROM if you look at Running apps (services) the total is around 1500 to 1600 MB. If I remember correctly the rest is reserved for the OS and other things.
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aybarrap1 said:
That number is about right. Even under the stock ROM if you look at Running apps (services) the total is around 1500 to 1600 MB. If I remember correctly the rest is reserved for the OS and other things.
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Ahh, okay thanks. The phone still runs lightening fast so its all good. Cm10 is still a little buggy but the pros definitely out weigh the few cons.
I was told a good portion of that missing memory is reserved for video memory.
jeffdaman said:
I was told a good portion of that missing memory is reserved for video memory.
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+1 to the graphics chip, some for cache.
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I apologize if this is stupid and everyone already knows this.
Why is the RAM listed under About Tablet less than the specs for the fire? Is there a way to change the situation so more ram is available?
Thank you.
No, the ROM, as well as the stock ROM, take about 100 MB of RAM to get System Apps and Processes working as well as hardware running. With 400 MB its enough to do multi tasking, so unless you have like 50 MB RAM, there is no problem. You can't add more RAM, that's how it is. On AOSP you can get 140 MB of RAM free which is enough to play 3D Games and no lag.
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404-Not Found said:
No, the ROM, as well as the stock ROM, take about 100 MB of RAM to get System Apps and Processes working as well as hardware running. With 400 MB its enough to do multi tasking, so unless you have like 50 MB RAM, there is no problem. You can't add more RAM, that's how it is. On AOSP you can get 140 MB of RAM free which is enough to play 3D Games and no lag.
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Is that 100 MB being used for running the OS or is it used as a ram disk? If that's what Android uses for running, then what is eating up the other ~250 MB of RAM?
The only way I've managed to get ~150 MB free RAM is to go through settings and manually stop all the extra processes that I don't want running in the first place. The benefits are short lived, though, as they always seem to respawn themselves.
Try different ROMs and wait for new version from Devs
pfederighi said:
I apologize if this is stupid and everyone already knows this.
Why is the RAM listed under About Tablet less than the specs for the fire? Is there a way to change the situation so more ram is available?
Thank you.
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From my understanding, each ROM utilized ROM diffrently, and the RAM always partial taken by ROM to run the OS. Newer kernel version (my case is 3.0.50+) like near future 3.4 may take fewer RAM then the current version, as Hashcode promised. And as you see with USB, SD and HDD, none of them show the correct storage as factory spec. It is always lower
The 1gig is shared between the gpu and cpu, what you see is whats reserved for the cpu.
pfederighi said:
Is that 100 MB being used for running the OS or is it used as a ram disk? If that's what Android uses for running, then what is eating up the other ~250 MB of RAM?
The only way I've managed to get ~150 MB free RAM is to go through settings and manually stop all the extra processes that I don't want running in the first place. The benefits are short lived, though, as they always seem to respawn themselves.
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100 is for Hardware System and the rest ~100 or so is for Keeping the OS running, if you were to take that away you would get a unresponsive Kindle. I have that in Stock ROM I get about 200MB but you have sacrifice some for Heavier
ROMs like JB
Itsbricked said:
The 1gig is shared between the gpu and cpu, what you see is whats reserved for the cpu.
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1Gig?????
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Whats your favorite Firmware???
I am asking because there are so many Jelly Bean Firmwares out there and I wanted to know which one is the best for you.
And I think it´s good for users who don´t know which Firmware they should flash.
MG2 is the smoothest one with 624 MB ram, but drains battery fast...
Szaby59 said:
MG2 is the smoothest one with 624 MB ram, but drains battery fast...
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I updated to MF1 via kies and got 482 MB. which firmware should i install to get 624mb ram. Device is from UK
Do i need 3 files or one file?
Flash mb4 for 624 RAM with pit then flash mf1 mg2 etc.
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The russian MG2 (SER) will give you 624 MB, you can flash it directly no matter what rom do you have currently on the device.
You can find a torrent link on my signature or hotfile link on sammobile.
It doesn't matter if it's 624 or 428 ram. Your device has 768 mb ram, it's just allocated differently and thus you have 624 or 428 ram. I'm running nordic MG2 with 428 mb ram, and it is smooth, there are no hangs, it's almost like GB. So don't base JB firmware on how much ram your task manager shows!.
Guys, i having BUT-XXMC8 Firmware and it's not bad
is MG2 better than MC8 ??
if yes sure i'll flash it over MC8.. i think no matter with this way right?
zahirovic.safet said:
It doesn't matter if it's 624 or 428 ram. Your device has 768 mb ram, it's just allocated differently and thus you have 624 or 428 ram. I'm running nordic MG2 with 428 mb ram, and it is smooth, there are no hangs, it's almost like GB. So don't base JB firmware on how much ram your task manager shows!.
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it has 768 mb ram, correct. but only 482 is usable, cant you understand? you might not have many apps running and using ram, but other people may use more apps than you. based on what you said, you mean a pc with 8 gb ram, and it so happens you can only use 1 gb(no, but example) you mean you will say"oh this pc has 8 gb of ram, its just allocated differently. dont judge the pc based on ram." I will have to tell you thats totally wrong. For gaming, customization, multitasking... ram does matter. So instead, just tell them how to get 624 mb ram and dont encourage them on the wrong things. And for those who needs 624 mb ram, first flash XXMB4 then your desired firmware(JB)
Szaby59 said:
The russian MG2 (SER) will give you 624 MB, you can flash it directly no matter what rom do you have currently on the device.
You can find a torrent link on my signature or hotfile link on sammobile.
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I downloaded MG2 from your torrent link and installed it. I got 624MB ram . It's faster than MF1.
On samfirimware there are 2 MG2 firmwares.Poland and Hungary.Which one is better?
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it has 768 mb ram, correct. but only 482 is usable, cant you understand? you might not have many apps running and using ram, but other people may use more apps than you. based on what you said, you mean a pc with 8 gb ram, and it so happens you can only use 1 gb(no, but example) you mean you will say"oh this pc has 8 gb of ram, its just allocated differently. dont judge the pc based on ram." I will have to tell you thats totally wrong. For gaming, customization, multitasking... ram does matter. So instead, just tell them how to get 624 mb ram and dont encourage them on the wrong things. And for those who needs 624 mb ram, first flash XXMB4 then your desired firmware(JB)
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You can't compare PC with smartphone with Android. First if you go to properties in my computer in windows you can see that you have RAM and how much ram is usable. Second RAM management is different in Android and Windows. Google said that 1 GB RAM is minimum for JB and we have 768. You CAN'T GET MUCH OF MULTITASKING WITH THAT MUCH RAM!!!. I had 624 mb ram with repartition, and the RAM gauge was always filled, I constantly had 500 ish ram, and the same thing is with 428 ram, I always have 400 ish ram. Gaming performance was worse on any firmware with 624 ram, mc8, me7, mf1 but with 428 ram on MG2 it's much better. My point is that mg2 build is optimized good enough with 428 ram, and if you repartition yout system you will have same effect, maybe even worse with 624 mb. I guarantee that with 624 ram you won't get much of multitasking and you will repartition your system, which is always a bad choice, so it's futile to search for multitasking in jb on our device.
1gb is minimum? But then again, you can only use 0.98gb. "Google said you need 1gb of ram" huh? So having 0.98gb cant multitask either? Lastly, this is a thread meant for discussion, not arguing.
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1gb is minimum? But then again, you can only use 0.98gb. "Google said you need 1gb of ram" huh? So having 0.98gb cant multitask either? Lastly, this is a thread meant for discussion, not arguing.
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Minimum 1GB of physical memory, not usable memory. My point is not to argue, but I don't want people to flash 100 builds just to get "624 mb RAM" when it's perfectly fine with 428 mb, and there is not difference in performance, if anything else 624 mb is worse. This phone is tailored suited for GB, I think we will never get official Samsung update with better performance than GB, in best case we will get same performance as GB. And that's the case with all devices without physical 1 GB of RAM. I am using official MG2 now, updated with kies and it runs really smooth, games are OK and I don't have any freezes or lag so it is definitely an improvement. There will me more builds, and about 2 months ago when I talked with Samsung Norway they told me that JB will arrive in 3/4 quarter of the year, and I think that final builds will come then, but MG2 build for now is just fine for me.
Sorry for misunderstanding. And i agree it was made for GB
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If a phone with single core cpu and 512 MB ram can run JB don't try to explain that 768 MB RAM and a dualcore processor is not good enough...
Just flash the russian MG2 you will have 624 MB usable ram and almost every time there is approx. 100 MB free, the rom is extremely smooth, there is only a little lag which is caused by poor drivers/kernel, just like the huge battery drain.
Soo... that "made for GB" excuse is probably good enough for samsung trying to fool us, but it's not true...
I can remember when I bought my phone GB was almost in the same state (little lags, battery drain, slowdown) and after the 2012Q4 performance updates GB became well optimized.
kohrangi said:
On samfirimware there are 2 MG2 firmwares.Poland and Hungary.Which one is better?
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it's the same ROM
tomgv said:
it's the same ROM
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No, with the Hungarian XXMG2 version you'll have 482 MB usable ram, with the Russian XXMG2 this value is 624 MB.
I don't know anything about the polish fw but I recommend to flash the Russian JB.
Szaby59 said:
If a phone with single core cpu and 512 MB ram can run JB don't try to explain that 768 MB RAM and a dualcore processor is not good enough...
Just flash the russian MG2 you will have 624 MB usable ram and almost every time there is approx. 100 MB free, the rom is extremely smooth, there is only a little lag which is caused by poor drivers/kernel, just like the huge battery drain.
Soo... that "made for GB" excuse is probably good enough for samsung trying to fool us, but it's not true...
I can remember when I bought my phone GB was almost in the same state (little lags, battery drain, slowdown) and after the 2012Q4 performance updates GB became well optimized.
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I didn't say it can't run, it can run JB, I'm running JB now on my phone. The question is not can it run but how it runs it. I agree that performance will be better with next updates and that was my point, but what I've said is that don't expect to run 4-5 applications in once or to have fantastic multitasking. About a battery, there is slight decline over GB but not so much. I've noticed the biggest drain is with wi-fi on, with camera app and of course screen usage. Project butter uses a lot of battery for now I think, because to use video sync and to run at 60 fps Project Butter needs graphical intensity which was not presented in GB. And one more thing, did anybody noticed that camera quality is lower than on GB? For me it seems like it. I think in September/November we will get usable enough build and Samsung will end support for this model I think.
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what are the differences between the firmwares? and does the different version affect the battery life of the phone? thanks
ginryu006 said:
what are the differences between the firmwares? and does the different version affect the battery life of the phone? thanks
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It's up to you. If you value more battery life and performance, stay on GB. If you want Nature UX, smooth UI and new features with lower battery life and less performance in games, than go for JB. If you want to move to JB then I suggest to flash nordic MG2 directly from GB via Odin.
Previos time I used Redmi Note 4 (Mido). That phone are 3gb varient. That phone in i flashed epicMiui custom rom. That rom are used my ram storage only few 1gb/1.3gb Ram. That rom are my best choose for that issue. All time ram storage 1.4gb are always free. That phone camera are just osame:good:
But,
Now I am used Redmi note 5. There I tested many custom rom. All the custom ROM are most ram storage drained. Like there are free ram storage are only 700mb to 900mb.
So,
I need A miui based rom.
That are i am used daily draivers. That are mostly free my ram 1.4 to 1.5gb. Sugeested me please...
Nb: sorry my bad english.
You don't need that much free RAM. Android is pretty good at managing memory by itself, and 4GB are plenty for a good experience.
Really, flash any ROM that suits your needs
Nazmul.i404 said:
Previos time I used Redmi Note 4 (Mido). That phone are 3gb varient. That phone in i flashed epicMiui custom rom. That rom are used my ram storage only few 1gb/1.3gb Ram. That rom are my best choose for that issue. All time ram storage 1.4gb are always free. That phone camera are just osame:good:
But,
Now I am used Redmi note 5. There I tested many custom rom. All the custom ROM are most ram storage drained. Like there are free ram storage are only 700mb to 900mb.
So,
I need A miui based rom.
That are i am used daily draivers. That are mostly free my ram 1.4 to 1.5gb. Sugeested me please...
Nb: sorry my bad english.
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Why would you need free unused ram?
iuliusdeblobbis said:
You don't need that much free RAM. Android is pretty good at managing memory by itself, and 4GB are plenty for a good experience.
Really, flash any ROM that suits your needs
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But there is a catch. MIUI is very aggressive in killing background apps. At first I through that 3gb of ram is not enough and that's the reason why multitasking is so bad. The phone wasn't keeping even 3 apps in ram. Now when I'm using aosp based ROMs I no longer have such issues.
0dium said:
Why would you need free unused ram?
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Bcz,
Low ram storage make my phone lezy and so slow.
Nazmul.i404 said:
Bcz,
Low ram storage make my phone lezy and so slow.
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Thats not how android works. This is not microsoft windows. Android frees up ram whenever its needed. Miui based roms have more free ram because it has very aggressive background control, but that doesnt mean its good. You cant multitask because it just kills every background app.
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Thats not how android works. This is not microsoft windows. Android frees up ram whenever its needed. Miui based roms have more free ram because it has very aggressive background control, but that doesnt mean its good. You cant multitask because it just kills every background app.
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+1 on this.
MIUI has such an aggressive memory management because killing apps in the background gives an impression of better battery life. This results in less RAM usage, which is great marketing towards people who don't know how Android works :/
iuliusdeblobbis said:
+1 on this.
MIUI has such an aggressive memory management because killing apps in the background gives an impression of better battery life. This results in less RAM usage, which is great marketing towards people who don't know how Android works :/
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But it does have excellent battery life despite it being a bloated and heavy pig.
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But it does have excellent battery life despite it being a bloated and heavy pig.
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I have same battery performance with Pixel Experience as i did with stock rom or masik. Only difference being, with PE i can actually multitask without constantly getting my apps closed in the background. That, and not having to worry about some notifications arriving late. Apart from these 2 things i actually quite like MIUI unlike most users here.
This is is rom. That are i Fond,
Always free 1.4/1.6 ram...it perfect for daily driver used.
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/mobile/folders/1pv3WMBJyJmadpTkkSRCvPTjR0RG0Ak-6